I didn't expect too much, and wasn't surprised: 6-7 elderly patrons; 5-6 providers, none appealing.

A guy called Oliver tried immediately to pin me down, even though I repeatedly said I'm taking my time to relax. He was actually the most attractive guy there for me, but with a small dick.

As I sat in the large (not really warm) jacuzzi, I declined an invitation from a rather thick guy idling by. I decided to sit there for 15 minutes to see whether some miracle would happen; none did.

However, after 10 minutes this thick guy started stroking himself, his big dick at attention protruding from the towel's folds.

I striked up a conversation with him (I speak intermediary Spanish), moving to the smaller warmer jacuzzi. His name is Christiano, and we talked about Cali Colombia (his home town which I had visited), while he started stroking me.

Rather naively I asked whether it's permitted to suck in the jacuzzi. He said "sure", bcs people make out there all the time, so I went to work on his tool. I like jacuzzi sex and I like sex in public, and this was 2 for 2...

After like 10 minutes I told him my fantasy is to do that with more than one dick, so he went upstairs and returned with a friend. Double BJ and HJ in a jacuzzi while they fondled me made the visit really worthwhile.

At some point I had to explode so we retired to a 69 in a cabin, only with Christiano.

He said 50 for him and 30 for the friend is enough, and that's what I paid.

PS

Thermas is really squeaky clean and very well organized.

Is it just for young hotties?

Cruising sex clubs are not a novelty - I'm a fan of Lab.oratory in Berlin where 80-year-olds can be seen having fun with those under 30. It's not a pay scene, but rather a free-for-all orgy where the fewer inhibitions you have the more fun you can have in return (or if you come snobby and demanding, you get none). I'd even venture to say that Lab.oratory is a unique space anywhere in the world, nothing I've ever seen anywhere else. But I digress, back to Spain.

More cruising clubs like Lab.oratory have started to pop up across Spain - and not only in Madrid or (curiously fewer) in Barcelona, but also in Sevilla, Granada, and elsewhere. Unlike the Lab in Berlin, they took one step further - every weekend they host A/B-list porn stars (i.e. names many know) to do a live sex show with full audience participation.

The leader of all this is Exxtreme in Torremolinos - a suburb of Malaga that is slowly wrestling the crown of the Spanish gay capital from Sitges. Torremolinos is pretty much a huge gay nightclub disguised as a Spanish coastal village with numerous gay bars, saunas, clubs, cruising places, etc. Exxtreme is the cruising center of all this - 18 Eur entrance with two drinks included - that every night from Thurs through Sun hosts porn stars that actively encourage sex with audience members. At some parties I went to, some porn stars were even partaking in what I saw as a charity action - picking those of age, those of belly, to drag them to the couch in the center of the room and fuck in front of everyone. Names from just a few past weeks: Apolo Adrii, Gus Torres, Viktor Rom, Nik Fros, Justin Jett, Andy Star, Denis Vega, Ruslan Angelo, Jonathan Miranda, Roque Rems, and many others. 

Those taking part in these Exxtreme parties usually spend the whole long weekend in Torremolinos and widely available for hire through Hunqz for 250 Eur - others flocking there are at 100-150 Eur.

Other Spanish cities are catching up. Sauna Beach in Madrid hosts similar events, albeit on a smaller scale, Thursday through Sunday. Bunker in Seville books porn stars for Fridays and Saturdays. Men's Granada does Saturdays. Some events happen in Barcelona. 

But I think what's happening in Torremolinos and elsewhere in Andalucia (plus Madrid) is something we haven't seen a few years back. Witnessing porn stars in action a meter from you, with a chance to take part, plus potentially being able to hire them if you're interested - that could be appealing to some (but understandably, not everyone). I just hope this snippet may help somebody who was not aware of all this happening at all.

Overall the guys here run from average to unattractive, there's only one hot guy Brazilian who calls himself Anaconda. Going rate here is 50 euro, then it goes up to 100 euro etc. Be firm and agree before hand. Take the exact amount of money to the room and make sure he knows that's all you brought. 

First night (3pm - 4pm) I met Oliver from Santo Domingo again. He's like a wasp. If you're upstairs - he'll be there. If you're downstairs - he'll be there. Sit at the bar, he'll be at the stool next to you. Get in the pool and he'll come floating along like a jellyfish. I would avoid him and don’t engage. Then I met a guy called Fercho from Bogota who also works the door at Boys Bar - not my type but actually a lovely honest guy who is learning English. I had a really nice time talking to him, but he was busy with a customer. Then Oliver came back with massage oil, so I decided to leave and come back after hours. 

Returned later that night (11.30pm - 1.00am) Oliver was still there and I actually! gave him 50 euro to go away! A bunch of trans kids were in the bar. They seem to live in the place. They have a room that they stick to and take blankets etc. but they're nice except they (and lots of other customers) smoke in all the rooms so if you’re asthmatic avoid the place. The staff however work hard to keep things clean. As I walked around, there was one sex worker OD'ing in a room and another guy sleeping on the bench - I was told that scopolamine was sometimes used to drug people in the club so keep a really close eye on your drinks. It's a myth that it'll turn you instantly into a zombie, but it is a very powerful sedative. That was enough for me and I left. 

Second night (11pm - 1am) I met a Colombian guy who was okay looking with a tattoo/body art diamante thing on his shoulder - he was okay - good conversation although I got vibes from him like there was something a bit untrustworthy. Nevertheless only 50 euro for the whole works. Afterwards, in the bar I met Christian from Nigeria. He's a black guy with a big dick but not handsome - he looked homeless and walking around in his underwear. He told me a story about buying a bar and managing his wife and kid. It was quite a nice conversation until he offered me an investment opportunity to support him with the bar refurbishment. I wasn't buying it but later I learned the full scam to avoid - there is a disused bar - Nigerian hustlers take you to it and pretend it belongs to them, and they need investors. Apparently one old guy was stung for 50k via Christian. Also Christian lives at the sauna so if you buy him a drink, use a drink token otherwise, you'll find the 24-hour room hire is on your bill. 

Third night (5pm - 7pm) I met Oliver again who followed me around until Christian showed up. I noticed that as I was walking around the place and literally no one selling would talk to me. They were walking/ looking away. I had no idea how I'd offended them. It turned out that Christian has warned all the other guys off me. I was his customer now. From what I could gather later, he's a pretty bad guy - runs with some bad people so once you're his customer you get no other offers. To be fair, this gave me the oppertunity to have a proper look around.

One more thing you should know - mobile phones are allowed throught the place - this is fine with me - however, make sure you don't allow a hustler to take your picture and whatsapp details - apparently it's common for the guys to try to extort you when they have a photo with you. That said - this didn't happen to me. Aside from that the club that night smelled horrendous, the pools had that smell of chloramines where the pool cleaner is reacting with urine. Some guys go into the pool, urinate and come straight back out then a cockroach almost reached my foot – with the hygiene issue I left. 

Supposedly for mature bears and their admirers ?

Villa Gianni is located at #32 Nevern Place, four short blocks from the Earl's Court underground station. It is so easy to find the place. Simply walk out of the underground station, make a left turn, then walk two blocks then turn left on Nevern place, then walk to # 32.

After arriving at the facility, you ring a bell at the red painted door that has a 32 on it. The place is in the lower basement of the building.

I was greeted by a very friendly fairly young good-looking manager on duty. The manager explained how the system works, i.e., what is involved in contracting with a rent boy at that facility.

The manager guided me down a hall way to a room that has a one way glass that allows a viewer to see the rent boys but the rent boys cannot see the viewer.

Each guy stands in front of the glass window and demonstrates and shows off what he has to offer to entice you to choose him. The manager told me what each guy likes to do.

If you like what you see, you advise the manager and make a choice.

The price for one hour is 90 pounds, Sterling, payable after the event concludes. That price is incredibly cheap especially for London, one of the most expensive cities in the world.

Considering the low, to nearly non existent, risk to clients (not being scammed by fakes and bogus ads), this facility is awesome. If the escort is more than satisfying, a handsome tip to the escort is definitely in order after the session, even though the escort does not ask for a tip.

I returned the next day but the mix of available escorts was not to my liking (nothing but twinks) and I did not stay long.

As a general rule, the mix of escorts is predominantly Brazilian. Considering that I like Brazil so much, I was quite pleased. Of course, there are rent guys from many other countries at the facility. It all depends on when you go there.

The only thing I do not like about the operation is the fact the rent boys must go through suggestive actions and sort of put on a show to entice clients to choose them. I think it is a little degrading to the rent boy to have to go to a one-way window and show off his wares while not communicating directly with a client.

Another good thing about an operation like this is we do not have to contend with fake ads and bogus/stolen photos or escorts demanding money upfront then not performing.

In all fairness, I went back the next day and the place was filled with lots of twinks. Although twinks can be nice, they are not interesting for me as romantic partners. I suspect that some members of this forum would have been thrilled on the day that I left because there were not "butch" Brazilians available at the time I was at the brothel.

The manager stated that a second shift comes on at six in the evening. This means that there are two crews of working guys each day.

What a splendid operation this is.

I heartily recommend the place even though there is a risk of not always finding the specific type of guy you like.

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Do the tops agree to suck?

In a 3some, would one agree to suck in front of another?

Before my hopefully forthcoming (not first) visit, I summarized the relevant info from the previous 12 months. [Maybe management would find fit to pin it for future uninitiated.] Anyone so inclined, please correct, criticise or add.

https://www.saunaspases.com/saunathermas/ 

Timetable:

Friday – Monday: 15:00-23:00     Tuesday – Wednesday: 24 hours     Thursday: 7:00-23:00.

Best hours to visit: 16:00 – 20:00

[Splash disco party: a late night event, with DJ etc. Not attended particularly by the "boys". More of a general sauna evening.]

Room Rates:

Entry – 22 eur; on Wednesday – 19.5     Private rooms rates: 15 – 18 – 20 – 25 (levels of luxury).

Speedoo: You use one of the free cabins with a small bench and plastic covered mattress, or you rent a larger room with a bed+sheets and light (not dimmed light like in the cabins). On busier nights, might have to wait for them.

Riobard: You have the option of 2 towels or 1 towel plus a large terry cloth robe on check-in. If you spread out the robe on a vinyl mattress ()not routinely swabbed between sessions, you get more cloth coverage over it.      Another tip: If you rent a room that is put on your check-out tab, you have it for an hour. Write down the time from the clock at reception, making sure the attendant knows you are aware, and optionally keep the key for 55-59 minutes because you may want to fit in at least one more session. Rookie mistake is to hand back the key after 20-30 minutes and then regret it.     [The light dimmers generally don’t function well.] 

Providers:

Rate – 50 eur for 20-30 mnts; not including cum.

Speedoo: If you want to spend an hour with a guy – you better ask him upfront, so he can price accordingly. I would expect some of the guys to agree to 50 Euro for 1 hour just to close the deal, but with no actual intention of spending that much time with you in the cabin (lots of excuses can come up why a session is ended prematurely). 

 Most “boys” are Latinos from SA; especially Brazil and Venezuela; also east-Europeans. On Saturday and Sunday there’s an influx of only-weekend “boys”. Most are in the 7-inch range and thick enough.

Honorably recommended here: Bruno, Paulo, Sergio, Costas, and repeatedly – Nicholas (Chile).

Three Recent Impressions:

Chucky: Lots of guys there, mostly South American although a couple of East Europeans. Had most of the guys approach, some very handsome and some just big cocks. Lots of Brazilians as usual and some very handsome. Definitely was more choice than last year.

AndyUK: Always found this place to be nice, hassle free, great bar area and sexy guys. Top notch.

keepItReal: Providers were friendly and almost all of them stopped by to say hello. Still, couldn't find an enthusiastic bttm. Mostly guys were tops or just looking for quick oral fun. Had a good time chatting with some of the providers and they seemed to be in good spirits and quite welcoming.

Speedoo: The guys will get condom and lube from the bar in the basement when they agree to go with you to a cabin or room. I don’t recall if you get charged for this when you leave; presumably you do, but it’s only a few Euros. Probably only 1 type standard condoms available. I haven’t seen guys asking for special sized condoms.

I'm planning to celebrate Xmas & NYE in Europe this year and hope to get some recommendations from members here on which part of Europe would be a good destination for a 1+ week trip (from Xmas Eve to the new year weekend).

I'm hoping to get a good mix of festive celebrations + paid/unpaid guys + saunas/sex club visits.

At the moment, I'm thinking of doing Madrid + Barcelona but still pretty open.

Thanks in advance for all the advice + recommendations 🙏

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This one is so cute and sexy but mostly available in Poland

Big dick escorts asking for 30-40 eur.

Venice started the movement last year in an effort to cut down on the number of day trippers who pay no accommodation tax and often bring in their own food. For many days in the year, they have to pay a €5 tax. Now Rome is jumping on the bandwagon. One of it smost popular sites, the Trevi Fountain, will charge €2 to get close to it from February 1 next year. Personally I think it's a good idea. There are now so many tourists around it it is often impossible to see the fountain, only the sculpture at the back.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp89p41gr06o.amp

https://raiddbar.com/en/index.html
 

they have shower shows, I wonder if they have private dances

https://spades4gents.be/

(about 30 miles from Brussels). Anyone been here?

Any tips on where to find all the hot rent boys?