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Me too, 20 + yrs....why do customers seem to critique the boys in Thailand MUCH more than any other place I've been.....very direct and rude at times, is that because Thai's are direct and is fair play.....just don't feel comfortable when I hear comments like "he's ugly with those tattoos" or He's too fat/chubby, yet the person making the comment is a cow....wtf?

Hey guys, I'm back from my recent trip in BKK, Thai and I really love to share my most exciting, wildest and romantic experience ever!!! I've had my most awaited reunion with a boy, experienced going to a new go go bar as well as visit 2 a long, overdue massage place and an encounter with a new hot boy. So what are we waiting 4? Let's begin... Of course it all started with my most anticipating go go bar which is the NEW DREAMBOY in Patpong 2 (NOT PARADISO, okay? -just 2 be clear, lol). Upon arrival, I got excited with the familiar sign with a cupid design and the place is brand new!!! Wow...its a good timing bcoz the new manager got out from the sliding door and I immediately asked if Mr. Perfect Guy is still there. He smiled 2 me and said yes, then invited me 2 come inside. And there he is...with my dreamy eyes I saw Mr. Perfect Guy, the only reason I keep on coming back 2 BKK, Thai. He immediately recognized me, smiled and waved at me as the manager call his name. I smiled and waved back in response. I admit my heart pounds faster. I've been waiting 4 this moment since he is not available on my last trip. He was practicing a dance routine with the other boys and I must say he is really dedicated on performing (just like the last time when I saw him rehearsing for their anniversary show). He smiles at me from time to time after he greet me. I was so excited as I smiled back at him, giving a thumbs-up sign as I select a seat with a very good view of him. I can say the NEW DREAMBOY is sparkling new, its bigger than PARADISO, including the stage, though there is no more 2F and harness for show (unlike in Soi Twilight), although there are opening doors for the performers. Even the audience seats area for the guests is larger, but missing from the bar b4 is the gym area, though the boys workout beside the stage in front of the mirror with their dumbells (and barbell, I think) pumping it hard (WOW) and doing crunches on the edge of the seat or stage. I think they're trying to impress me with their muscles, but my sight is fixed on Mr. Perfect Guy practicing on stage, ha ha. Its given I selected the seat near the stage and Mr. Perfect Guy suddenly seat beside me as he greet me again and asked me "How r u?". I said "I'm okay" with a smile and he immediately touched me, omg, so in response I touched his muscles, he he. But he excused himself bcoz he still need 2 practice on stage and I nod as I said "Its okay" and my smile was fixated, since I'm very much fulfilled seeing him, though I'm shy 2 admit I'm starting 2 have a h*rd-*n, lol. When his practice is over, he moved closer to me, hugged me and then kissed me, WOW...and I'm not dreaming guys, this really happened in real life, lol. I'm a bit shy bcoz there are other customers already but I thought 2 myself I should not be embarrased, right guys? He puts his arms on my shoulder and started touching my body, teasing my nipples and rubbing my legs, I admit I like it, lol. In return, I started touching his arms, chest and abs which he liked, he even flexed his muscles for me. After a while, he excused himself again bcoz he needs 2 change for the show. I slapped his butt as he stand-up, we both laughed. Btw, my position in the rightmost, upper part also gives a good view of the boys changing in the locker room, he he. When he is away, the other boys still try 2 impress me with their muscles, though I can say there's a lot of hot boys, I lose count, lol. In fact, there is this one hot guy who I've never seen b4 in DB Soi Twilight. He looks like a model actually, with his chiseled body, gorgeous face with expressive eyes, long eyelashes, pointed nose and kissable lips...and he got a LOT of tattoos, only the ABS part had no tattoo, but he looks hot with a nice smile. I call him Mr. Runner-Up (2 Mr. Perfect Guy, haa haa). Then, as my cola was served by the long-haired mamasan (she's nice actually), Mr. Perfect Guy sat beside me with a very skimpy boxers, omg...and its cuddling time again!!! The mamasan told me the show starts @ 10:30PM and its fine by me, I can have more time with Mr. Perfect Guy, woohoo!!! We talk a lot of things and along with it is touching our bodies, I really love touching his muscles (even counting his abs, which is of course six-pack) and looking at his handsome face as we speak. God I really missed him!!! I asked him to flex his biceps and triceps for me to which he agreed with a smile, tickling the back of his neck and ears, touching his chest, shoulders and back, and a bit of his legs, I'm shy 2 do it, ha ha...though he really press hard when he touched me. I think he gets bigger everytime I saw him bcoz he is really a regular in gym and it shows to his very muscular body. I asked what he's gonna wear on the show but he won't tell me, hmmm, it makes me wonder, lol. And after an hour and a lot of minutes of cuddling (and bonding) time, lol, the show begins and Mr. Perfect Guy needs 2 leave 4 a moment. The boys paraded for the audience on stage. My only comment is the post (or pillar?) in the middle blocks a portion of the stage but got stairs and platform where the boys can also walk/dance. Also, to assist PARADISO which only got a few audience, the boys also paraded there, meaning, passerbys can also saw the hot boys as they switch from the two bars. Meanwhile, Dreamboys is already jampacked as the show begins, and more guests are coming. I can say the show is really hot, my fave is the part of Mr. Perfect Guy together with the other boys dancing on stage and on the platform in the middle wearing very skimpy white undies, OMG, and I saw his very masculine dance again, the hot move which got my attention!!! My other fave is the staple for go go bar shows where the boys with raging hard-on wearing condoms and parading...Mr. Runner-up was there (ahem, haa haa)...woah, he's also GIGANTIC!!! Of course I won't spoil the other part of the show so you will all be surprised guys, ha ha...all-in-all, I really like it...a bit similar to DB Soi Twilight's minus the classy, big production numbers and I prefer this since I can see more of Mr. Perfect Guy performing whereas b4, he only lifts the ladyboys or act as the leading man on the show, he he. When the show is over, we toasted our drinks and finish drinking as Mr. Perfect Guy already changed his clothes. Then I paid to the counter, btw, the pricing is as follows: Entrance Fee with Drink: 450 Drink for the Boy: 350 Off Fee: 500 Then, I give the long-haired mamasan 100 as she said thank you. After that, Mr. Perfect Guy and I walked holding hands 2 my hotel, then placing his arms on my shoulder while I hold on his other arm or placing my hands on his waist, sometimes embracing me and kissing me, WOW!!! He's really romantic, that's all I can say!!! As we go inside my room and the door was closed, I immediately...<TO BE CONTINUED>

U guys want to know the continuation of my report, right? Here we go...I immediately moved closer to Mr. Perfect Guy and gently lean him against the wall saying "u miss me?"...he immediately said "yes!"...to which I responded "seriously?"...he smiled and to my surprise, he kissed me on the lips, wow, I kissed both his upper and lower lips which is slightly open while I can feel his tongue, omg...I leaned closer to him feeling his muscular, hard body...while our bulges was pressing hard to each other. Then he leaned me against the wall and started kissing me on my neck...I love how it feels sending shivers to my body...I did the same to him, I really love kissing his neck and even his adam's apple. Then, I removed his shirt and when its halfway removed and his arm was raised, I paused a bit and sniff his armpits...what I also love about Mr. Perfect Guy is he smells sooo good, he is hygienic and conscious to his body. I started kissing and licking his armpits, one-at-a-time while completely removing his shirt. God I love his muscular body!!!...his arms, his abs, his chest, his back, his shoulders, his everything, actually, lol...even his exposed armpits which is shaved actually, yum!!! Time 4 muscle worship, yeah3x!!! Afterwards, I kissed and lick his hard chest before moving to his nipples which I played and run my tongue to it, while pinching the others, doing it 1-@-a-time also. Then I asked him to flex his arms which are both big and bulky with muscles, veins showing up. I then run my lips and tongue to his biceps and triceps. Then, he removed my shirt and run his tongue to my nipples, both of it...wow, it sends another shivers to my body and started to moan and groan. My m*nh**d was hard the entire time. After that, I kneel and unfasten the button of his pants, then unzip the zipper of his pants and slowly took his pants down. Wow...he's wearing the undies (or speedo) that they used during the show. I touch his bulge while looking at him. He smirk and then give me a teasing smile. His bulge is really hard now. I put it in my mouth while looking at him then slowly took his undies down. His m*nh**d was so hard it almost slap in my face, lol. I ran my hand to it, feeling its hardness and its gigantic size. Then I swallowed it while looking at him, d**pthr**t which I always do. Then I started moving it in and out my mouth, running my tongue to it, I really like to bj him. With the expression of Mr. Perfect Guy's hansome face, he also like it. Then I paused and slap it to both of my cheeks feeling its hardness. He was surprised I think when I look at him. Then, raised his m*nh**d and lick his b*lls, then carefully putting it in my mouth 1-@-a-time. Then I swallowed m*nh**d again. Afterwards, I run my lips and tongue to his legs and thigh...wow, he's really flawless!!! Then, I stand-up and Mr. Perfect Guy removed my pants and undies while saying "let's shower" to which I nod. We proceeded to the shower and he soaped my body and teasing my m*nh**d, haa haa. I also did the same to him, soaping and touching his gym-fit and muscular body. He turn me around and hugged from behind, feeling his gigantic m*nh**d in my *ss. Then he turn me around again and face-2-face, he hugged me while our m*nhood pressed at each other. Afterwards, we rinsed and dried ourselves with the towels. Mr. Perfect Guy was the first to get out of the bathroom. When I got out of the shower room, I saw Mr. Perfect Guy was already in the bed, still with a hard-on and giving me a teasing smile. I got excited and horny at the same time. I walk towards the bed then...<TO BE CONTINUED>

welcome to the forum Since you mentioned Tawan twice in your question this is where you should start, if you like what you see , return next night, if you don't, next night or even later first evening visit Moonlight and Dreamboys in any order. Other option is to pay off fee for chosen Tawan guy , tell him you will pick him up later and go to see one of other tow bars. You can also drag him with you there if he wants. some boys may be thrilled to see other bar , others definitely not. Try to get boy short time for 2000 , long time if so inclined for 3000 but hunks may want more and Moonlight models most likely so. I'd agree on a tip beforehand to avoid nasty scene with well built guy !. In Tawan boys are circulating freely so one of them may sit beside but if you not interested just ignore him politely. They saw it all and will not force themselves upon you. If you engage him in conversation it will cost you a drink for him and 100 baht , perhaps 200 tip , depending on timer he will spent with you . In Moonlight and Dreamboys it may be mamasan who will try to engage you in tip dispensing , feel free to ingore such advances unless you want somebody to talk to, nothing wrong with that. Arema is good choice but when walking on Silom and Suriwong have eyes opened as staff of many massage shops is sitting outside and somebody may catch your fancy.

1. Don't over-think. 2. Be open. 3. Be kind. 4. Have fun.

Days before the first Democratic debate, presidential candidate Bernie Sanders proposes forgiving all student loan debt. That's 1.6 Trillion Dollars! Now how about those students who worked their way through school rather than borrow? What do they get? And what about those who took out student loans and spent them on non-school pleasures? All forgiven? Sanders is an idiot. This proposal shows that he is a desperate idiot. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-bernie-sanders-bill-student-debate-2020-20190624-lemhjmx6wfflvowt2dkgx62534-story.html

Many younger/prettier boys don't work at the bars nowdays they can pick up their clients on line ...

In the U.S. I believe the rule is you can't donate blood for year after getting a tattoo -- or one year after having manly man sex with another man.

This was certainly my experience in Jan. I was pretty disappointed by the quality of dancers in shows actually, maybe the younger/prettier guys don’t feel like they need to work as hard to get attention?

I did not know that, thank you for opening my eyes

I also dont like it when boys cut short the time. Usually it happens when the fun is finished (when i cum or he cum or both cum) but massage place where u pay for the time, i usually remedy that by asking the boy to cuddle hehe.

Yup, yup...the hottest encounters...in my report...sooner than expected!!!...and also a massage place, wait 4 it!!! Ur most welcome Vinapu!!!

Hi vinapu, My problem with Prince is that I feel that I only got a fair deal the first time I went there two years ago. The last two times I have been there were bad. The massage was not at all good and they even cut the time short. Also, they are too damn expensive now. My Hero boys were sub standard in looks in my opinion and they have gotten more expensive. Perhaps I was just spoiled by the good days at Hero.

Unrealistic nonsense.

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I'd been missing you on the Forum...waiting for the rest of your report. Welcome back!

we are waiting impatiently, it looks you had great time both in bar and behind closed hotel door, good for you and thank you for steamy report

I think this is not limited to Thais but part of worldwide phenomena, tattoos are back in vogue as one can see at end of any football ( soccer for Americans) game when player are undressing in order to exchange their jerseys, every second one is covered with some ink no matter what country he is from , Chile , Japan or anything in between . Better than mooks or all those padlocks and chains in earlobes and nose in my opinion

You live in Bangkok! Why would you need to watch animals on TV?

I think I know who is your Mr Runner-up. I was surprised to see him doing a big cock show. Somehow I have this preconceptions that only older rough looking guys do that kind of shows and not pretty ones. lol Welcome back Drim!

For many years I used to make a brief visit in late June/early July. As others have pointed out above, prices tend to be lower, crowds thinner, and the weather wetter. That said, it doesn't usually rain all day. There will probably still be brilliant sunshine much of the time. Enjoy!

And the funny thing is, when the emissary wrote, he/she used the same words with the same voice each time, no matter the ad. It was clear to me only one person knew how to write in English, and the writing covered several models with ads. I'm not into the teen/twink look, but I inquired several times out of curiosity.

Gad, if I had to go through all steps outlined above, I would never off anyone. I prefer DivineMadman's approach. Gad, an American expression : used to express surprise, disgust, etc.: a mild oath

On the last night of this trip, I decided it would just be drinking and enjoying the company of boys. No offs. I did my preparations inside my hotel room and after dinner, I walked into Lucky Boys at 10pm. Damn. It was crowded. Then I realised it was a Saturday night. I wanted the comfy semi circle booth sofa seats with the round table in front. They had all been taken. Mamasan L sat me down at front row table and promised to move me once the seats were available. I looked at the menu and ordered a bottle of Jack Daniels (4000 baht) and a bottle of 100 Pipers (2200 baht). It’s gonna be whisky night! L gave instructions to waiter and they both went off to get the bottles. Bottles arrive and this time, both bottles were placed in front of me in plain sight. A few nights ago, the bottle was placed out of sight and I had commented that it emptied out quicker than I had expected. I suspected some of the older mamasans and even waiters had helped themselves to it. L confirmed my suspicions. “Sorry, they shouldn’t do it. Tonight put bottle in front. Only you and boy drink.” I smiled and pointed at him, “And you drink with me also!” I signalled to waiter to prepare L a glass of Jack Daniel with Coke, his choice of mixer. After that, waiter comes back with 5 whisky glasses. “For you to tip boy,” L said. “No, tonight, I am not doing that. Tonight we play game. Loser drink shots. We wait till table ready.” It was thankfully not a long wait, perhaps 20 minutes. During that time, I looked at the boys on stage. Many boys smiling at me, especially those I had offed or tipped. This was my fourth night in a row at Lucky Boys. I am pretty sure I had attained a reputation among the staff after my stunts with the 1000 baht garland and 100 baht whisky shots tips. I signalled to the boys to be patient and wait. I had invited Anddy again for my last night in Bangkok. He messaged me that he would be late but he would definitely come. Some customers at a booth sofa seat leave. Yippee! The night can finally begin. L arranges for my drinks to be moved and I settle into the sofa seat. I signal to the two boys whom I had offed the previous two nights - Cambodia boy and Viet boy. Big smiles and warm hugs as I seat them to my right and left and as I wrap my hands closely around their waists. “Tonight no off. Tonight we drink. Tonight happy happy. I give tip,” I explain to both boys. Waiter prepares drinks for them. I pull them closer and my hands start groping freely under the table. We toast drinks. P my favourite Thai boy is not to be seen. “He no work today,” I am told. Darn. I know P loves to drink and he would be the perfect drinking companion. No matter. There were four of us at the booth sofa seat - mamasan, two gogo boys and me. I took out a deck of playing cards, shuffled them and explained the first game Up or down. A card is drawn and you have to guess whether the next card is bigger (Up) or smaller (Down). If wrong, must drink a half-filled shot of whisky neat. We play and there’s lots of laughs. The show begins but we are busy playing that we don’t watch it. Anddy arrives and I update him on our game. “You want to invite your boy over?” I ask Anddy. He looks around the bar. Easy to spot by his broad smile. He comes and join us. 6 of us now playing the game. We stop momentarily because of an interesting solo performance by a ladyboy. He is attired in tights and his face in painted like a mask. instead of singing, he does the most exquisite ballet-like dance. It would not be uncommon to see such artistic performances at a proper arts theatre but here he was doing it in a gogoboy bar in Patpong. His face was emotionless and he had a fixed gaze throughout his routine which adds to the mystery. Appreciative applause from the audience. He then exits quickly in the same mysterious manner that he had appeared. A singing ladyboy comes on stage. we continue our game. Cambodia boy is tipsy. He says he doesn’t want to play. Time to change the game. I take out 100 baht notes and place them under each of the 5 whisky glasses. New game called in-between. Two cards. Guess the next card. If it is within the two cards, you win 100 baht. If not, must drink. There is choice to pass if the two cards are not in your favour e.g. 3 and 6. Not as easy as it looks. Viet boy gets a 2 and 9. “You want to open card?” I ask. “Yes! Open!” Third card is a 9. Loud uproar. He has to drink. We play for a good half an hour. I keep refilling - both the whisky glasses and the 100 baht notes. Other waiters and mamasans come over to have a look. They want a piece of the action but I ignore them. I lose track of time. I look at stage. 11.45pm. Show has ended and gogo boys start going up on stage. Anddy decides to off his boy and boy goes off to change. Wise to stop him as his luck tonight hasn’t been good. If he continues losing and drinking forfeits, he will be definitely be dead drunk. I look at the bottles. Left half a bottle. I decide to expediate the game. I fill the whisky glasses to the brim. The boys are undeterred and willing to bet. Delight and ecstasy when they win. Sighs and a forced gulp to down the whisky when they lose but determination to play the next round. Anddy was kind enough to contribute some 100 baht notes when I ran out. I had to ask waiter to swap 1000 baht note to 100 baht notes. By the time all the whisky had finished, i had given away 3000 baht. Cambodian boy was drunk but very happy. He flashes his 100 baht notes at me. “Money. Money. Happy. Happy.” He kisses and hugs me. Anddy leaves with his boy who has managed to win some rounds despite starting off disastrously. I say goodbye to Anddy. “See you in December.” i tip Cambodia and Viet boys in addition to what they have won. They say they have never been so happy before. I get up to leave. I tell young mamasan L, “I tip you outside.” We all go out to the entrance of the bar where the stairs and balcony is. I surprise L by taking out a 1000 baht garland and placing it on his neck. He looks dumbfounded and in a state of shock. After recovering from the pleasant surprise, he hugs me tightly. Everyone there and then was smiling broadly. We take some photos together - L, the waiter who had served our table and the two Cambodia and Viet boys. I shall look at the photos happily from now until December when I return to Bangkok.

@anddy is such a nice host last night! I am very grateful that he eased me in my very first experience at a gogo bar. Have explored so far in Bangkok only saunas and massage parlors but never thought of any bar. Maybe the loud music is never my cup of tea. Although we only met last night in person, I felt like very comfortable in Andy’s company. Learning a few tipping culture from him too. Just occurred to me that I should have tipped #1. I touched his cute boyish face. And damn it. We did not manage to book Babe to sit with us. After the 10.30 pm show, Babe was no more in sight. He was the only model who were offed after the first show. And Babe, oh Babe. Finally saw him in person on stage! Woah. After a month of ogling his videos and pictorial books, he was right in my face, in flesh and blood. I could have passed out. Haha. His charisma and stage presence is unparalleled! While others are like going through the dance routine, Babe obviously enjoys what he is doing. That makes him stand out despite easily the shortest among the models. His sex appeal is his confidence. Noticed he seemed to like to smile at the audience at the back. Haha only later I realized that there is a mirror at the back of the room and he could be enjoying seeing himself in the reflection. Such a vain pretty boy! Mr Boss is another model I was hoping to see. He is the opposite of Babe! He obviously looked nervous parading in front of us but that awkwardness made him look more vulnerable and adorable! Andy and many of you are right, the other boys can be cute too. Besides #1, I like #38 too. Not exactly a fan of Mr Tum and Mr Mark but seeing them in person melt me away too. I love Mr Tum’s big wide smile. Last night, there was a moment, Mr York did something that tickled him a lot and he was trying so hard not to laugh out loud. He looked so funny and cute. Mr Mark’s smirks are charming too. That “cocky” look can be very sexy. Was thinking of offing Mr Smart but chickened out. Though he hardly smiles, I finally got to see him smile quite a bit when he was booked to drink with a customer. He actually has a very charming smile. I am quite shocked to see some of the customers are pretty cute too. There was a cute couple in same T-shirts sitting behind Andy and me. They look adorable. And some of the older men who were there to book the boys do not look like what I have imagined. Some of them look very straight and my gaydar would never be able to tell me anything when I see them on the streets. Quite surprising too to realize that while some of the boys look okay on the stage, they look very good in their street clothes. I would have taken a second look when they walk past me on the streets. Strange. Maybe more is better haha Back to Babe, I hope he will grow his fringe back soon once he is over with the army crew cut phase. And at the meantime, I should be patient and learn to muster courage to book him one of these days. Oh how I miss his cheeky smile already. I read he can be quite shy when alone with his customer. My. That adds on to the intrigue. At around 1.30 am, Andy and I left. He was so kind to show me where to find HotMale and the other bars in the vicinity. He is really sweet. And I still feel lucky to meet up with him before he flies back to his homeland for 3 months. I would not have found any nicer host to show me around in my first gogo bar experience.

I travel when the opportunity presents itself...and many times that’s when a place is too something or other. I go...and am almost always happy I went

I hear the same thing. But, I do not know. Not one of the "superstars" of the bar is one I would want to off. I like more the Screwboy twinky type guys.

Hot to me. Now I want to go back to Bangkok again! The food and the boys! I'm less keen on the tatted up look some of them have. Sometimes it works on some guys, but mostly not for me. I don't know why. I guess I find it a bit distracting. "what is that about?" I'm also not a size queen, so I've never really much paid attention to all the chatter about where the big dicks are. I'm more into faces and typically like the clean cut type. These guys fit that bill. If they know how to use it, whatever they've got is gonna be enough.

It is typical for the format. This bar has more body types like these. Others are very different and cater to different needs. I like twinks so it is not my cup of tea. Well, I have found just as many big dicks here as I have in Brazil or USA. True size queens can be happy anywhere they just need to see the goods first to not be disappointed. For me, this is not a requisite.

I never saw somebody looking like a rent boy in Lab.Oratory. Pretty sure there are none. I was never asked $ by anybody : there are sometimes cute guys in slings or lying legs apart on huge truck pneumatics and accepting to be fucked by anybody. Hard for a RB to compete against that.

Just feeling sorry I can’t be there!