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Rather than describing what happened each day of my visit, I will provide comments on different parts of my stay in Bangkok. Impressions & Observations of Bangkok on this trip I walked around the Surawong and Silom areas everyday and here are my observations of what I noticed since my last visit. Overall, there were fewer tourists than before, particularly those from China. The Patpong Night market is open again, but there seemed to be fewer stalls and fewer people visiting them each night. There seemed to be more massage shops on Surawong. A number of marijuana shops have opened up all over, now that weed is legal in Thailand. Several food carts along Surawong were open and seemed to be doing fine. Shops and services on Thaniya Road seem to be catering to mostly Japanese tourists now; I don’t recall that being the case before. Things are still not quite back to normal after the pandemic. A few of the places were still shuttered shut and have not reopened. I initially thought that some of the restaurants I had previously gone to were permanently closed. But I was mistaken: 2 of the 3 were still open. An Indian restaurant on Surawong is no longer there. Of the other 2, one closes early at 9 pm (I went there after 9) and the other is a restaurant now also sells weed (I initially thought the whole place was converted to a weed shop). A new fast-food place has opened up on Silom, near Sala Deng BTS Station – Texas Chicken; you see them being promoted in some of the Thai BL series. A lot more MBs and “massage therapists” are now on Grindr. Others have mentioned this too. A good number of locals wore masks, even when outside. Most tourists did not. On BTS, most folks, including foreigners, wore masks. Tim Horton’s, which has thousands of coffee shops in Canada, has recently opened some shops in Bangkok. I went to one and was disappointed. They do not offer brewed coffee – a bread-and-butter item in Canada at Tim’s - nor a plain toasted bagel. They offer Americanos, lattes, and other beverages and bagels with cream cheese only. XOne had the best exchange rates as mentioned by @vinapu (I hang on to every word he writes, and then I can’t go wrong! ).

Clubs Hot Male: I visited Hot Male on the 1st night I was in Bangkok. Entrance was 400 Baht. I went soon after the show had started. On that day, the place was almost full, but not packed. Almost 40% of those in the audience that day were women. There were about 15 guys on the stage, wide range to suit most. They were all wearing sweatpants and most wearing T-shirts. Hardly anyone was smiling; they looked bored. For me, the show was OK. I visited Hot Male again towards the end of my trip. This time, there were very few women, and the choice of boys was not as good as the previous visit. The good-looking ones may have been “offed” already. Fresh Boys: I visited the Club after seeing the show at Hot Male on Day 1. Entrance was also 400 Baht. There were about 20 guys on stage, all wearing sweats and most wearing Ts. There were fewer women here and the place was about half full. Here, there were more smiles on the faces of the boys, compared to Hot Male. There was even a greater variety of guys here, some past their prime as go-go boys. They had their “cock show” as part of their overall show. Again, show was OK. Dream Boys I patronized Dream Boys 3 times during this trip. Cover charge was 500 Baht for the 2 times and 550 Baht on a Monday (not sure why the difference). Each time, the place was about half full. There were about 25 guys parading on stage each time, before and after the main show. They were all in briefs. Just before the start of the main show, 9 of the boys danced very well to upbeat music, and they all looked like they were enjoying themselves. Of the Clubs I visited this time, I saw the most smiles here. There was a good selection and variety in the boys. I would say this Club had the best entertainment out of the 4 Clubs I went to this time. Each time, there were slightly different routines. The costumes, which one can write home about, were also different each time. When performing, the guys were in sync during their dance performance. They put on a very decent performance. While the shows here are raunchier than at Moonlight, it almost seemed like the choreographer from Moonlight had moved to Dream Boys. The shows at Moonlight were great during past visits. Moonlight For old times sake, I visited Moonlight to see their show and their “models”. Cover charge was 450 Baht. The boys at Moonlight are good looking. However, except for a few, there weren’t many smiles on their faces. I used to enjoy their shows, but I was quite disappointed this time around. As mentioned above, I found the show at Dream Boys much better. One of the top models at Moonlight (let’s call him B) seems to have lost his touch, in my view. To me, B was one of the best performers there in the past, but no more. He even looked different this time. On the other hand, I found the other model, lets call him N, looking better as he is no longer buffed up, but still in decent shape. I only went to Moonlight once as I didn’t enjoy my time there as much this time. Based on some of the comments posted by other Members, I skipped Jupiter this time. General comment: I found the temperature pleasant at all 4 clubs, not very cool, as in previous times. The sound was also bearable, not very loud as to burst your ear drums. On the aside, I went to the famous Foodland, after visiting a Club, and it was bone chilling cold that night in one section.

The Boys I did not off any guys from the Clubs this time. All my meetings were arranged by intros on Grindr. My hook ups varied between slim to muscular to athletic guys. One is a soldier; he was really handsome! I met up with him towards the end of my trip. I would have definitely had some repeats with him, if I had met him earlier. Well, a reason to go back to Bangkok within next few months! Two of the other boys were from Vietnam. They all spoke good English, so it was easy to communicate and chat with them. For massage at a shop, I went to Senso and chose a tall handsome guy, who was smiling at me (took the advice of other members). Others have described the routine at Senso: shower alone first, massage, the fun part and then shower together. I would go back to this masseur the next time I’m in Bangkok. The other massage sessions were in my room.

Day 11 I tipped my guy a bit extra , so happy I was. Then we went downstairs for breakfast, boy went home and I returned to hotel to pack up. Today I’m going to Pattaya with the mission. Since Tartegogo had similar plans we resolved to go by taxi. And it means three of us as he decided to take his last night’s friend with him. I took small bag with me and left suitcase in Furama asking them to keep her for me till tomorrow. Then to Raya to meet both gentlemen, they tasked me with finding a taxi which I found on Suriwong in their usual spot in front of Siam Heritage hotel. It took exactly 2 hours to arrive at Jomtien Complex. My companions went to their hotel and I marched to Zing, as always great value for money. I mention a mission. Tomorrow is birthday of Handsome Cambodian, guy for whom I have perennial soft spot so I wanted to surprise him with showing up. But as often surprise did not work. I Lined him asking innocently ‘how are you? “ and ‘ where you now?” to get an answer “ on my way to Bangkok, waiting for a van to depart” complete with picture of van and ticket. Ouch, so much for surprise. But there’s always tomorrow and chance for surprise in Bangkok, we will see how it works. Than I went for a stroll through Jomtien Complex , then toward Dick’s and on approach to his shop I saw my semi permanent Jomtien guy N. It was perhaps 2.30 or 3 pm. Great surprise , upon learning where I stay he shrewdly suggested we will have massage in my room instead of shop . I paid 300 massage fee and off we went . He was bit sad I’ m only tonight in Pattaya but having so little time we decided to utilize it very extensively. Forget about massage. He is way too affectionate for that. It was 6.20 when we both realized we are hungry so went to Dick’s for a supper. Then he went back to the shop and I to @home bar where I was supposed to meet bkkmfj2648. He was there so we had a chat oiled with beer ogling boys in vicinity while yakking. At one moment Tartegogo and his guy passed by and stopped to greet us. I eyed one axe murderer walking by, double treat for me as generally Jomtien Complex guys are not my thing. If I stay longer I’d took him right away but today I was not sure about night’s plans since my surprise failed and I wanted to see show at X-Boys. So all I could do was to surprise him with red note when we passed by in front of his bar. He was nicely surprised no doubt because when I tuned my head after passing him he was still smiling broadly following my sight. I hoped to shake hands with gayinpattaya but he was not in bar he apparently holds the court so it’s task for next trip whenever it will be. But I have witness I had intention if you read this report. Bkkmfj and me took baht bus to Boyztown, stepped for a moment at BBB greeted by Lek, the mamasan. Several boys on the stage but none really appealing and then we went to X-boys . on our way Wit from Paradise Spa eyed me and rushed to greet me , another guy disappointed they I’m there only one night. X-boys bar was full for the show and show itself was very progressive. Audience predominantly Chinese who were extremely excited by what they saw and tipped generously right. left and center . While I liked the show very few guy appealed to me so I send Line to N to wait for me at 12.30 am by Zing so we continue trying to solve world’s problems together. After show bkkmfj and me returned to Jomtien , he went home and I went to meet N passing by the bars but my axe murderer was absent , hopefully taken by some handsome and generous farang. N was waiting , we went to 7/11 to buy some supplies and returned to my room for very active sleepover so to speak. Old people should not exercise that much as it borders on dangerous I thought.

Day 10 Great feeling in he morning that all world problems were solved or at least I felt like it . Breakfast in hotel , I noticed quite a few glances by other guests. Old, KFC like troll and muscle semi-god , hard not to notice contrast I guess. But expressions were rather ‘wow” than condemnation so it made for even better feeling and boost to my self esteem. Today trip with my friend to train market in MaeKlong. That’s rewarding, entertaining but multi staged trip requiring some planning. I took BTS to Wongwian Yai BTS station , from there it’s about 500 m walk by covered walkway to Taksin Road and then another 500 m north along the street to Wongwian Yai railway SRT station. While BTS one is usual concrete monstrosity , railway station is just single track ending almost on the street. My guess would be it may be easy to miss but my friend was already there so he spared me finding out. We bought tickets to Machachai also known as Samut Sakhon at 10 baht a piece and while waiting for train I bought new baseball hat in adjacent market. Trains on this stretch are frequent, roughly hourly and ours at 10.40 am arrived and departed on time. No problem finding seat but train was by no means empty and whole 1 hour trip is basically through urban landscape never leaving really Greater Bangkok. Upon arrival , since we had more than hour to make connection we had a coffee , then took ferry across the river for 4 baht and in 3 minutes we were on another side. From there about 800m well posted walk to Ban Laem station. There are only 4 trains a day on that railway from Ban Laem to Mae Klong so as I said some planning is required. We could see it when train rolled out of station and pair of young tourists was running toward it but unfortunately too late to catch it. This part took also 1 hour, this time landscape was rural , graced at one point by impressive sight of grand stupa Phra Pathom Chedi , tallest in all Thailand, in Nakhon Pathom . Train market is on the last stretch , just before terminal station. On last station before terminal train become very lively as whole tour of Japanese boarded brought there by bus. Wise move as in my opinion surveying market from moving train is more interesting than being on the ground. At one point train slowed to crawl through all the stalls and scores of tourists taking pictures. We responded in kind taking theirs. There’s recent post about market where I placed few pictures made that day to give you an idea. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/39029-railway-market-crowded-with-chinese-tourists/ We had about hour to spend there and trekked back the same way in reverse. On Ban Laem station we met again that unfortunate pair waiting for our train to return and take them back. Girl cheerfully commented ‘ we are on vacation, we have time”. There was short wait for return train from Mahachai after we crossed river and going to Bangkok train was quite full as it was rush hour. At 6.30pm, 7 hrs. and 50 minutes from departure in the morning we were back. Thank you Christian PFC for providing information about logistics of getting there. There’s other way to get to the market, by bus from Southern Bus terminal but is not as entertaining and getting to and from terminal takes time and effort as it’s not easily connected to BTS or MRT I was told. I suggested we will have pizza dinner at Madrid Tavern and my friend agreed so we took BTS to Saphan Taksin and walked to soi 49 from there. Greeted by smiles and question ‘ you want Chang , no glass, and your usual pizza ? “ I knew I’m in the right place. My friend being vegetarian was concerned whether they will have some choice for his and it turned out they have no less than 4 pizzas of vegetarian kind including my favorite ‘Shallots and cherry tomatoes” . After dinner we walked to our hotels . I refreshed myself and went to HotMale go-go where I was supposed to meet with Tartegogo for the first time. No problem recognizing each other as we provided kind of detailed descriptions of ourselves since we never met before. He had his companion with him already and soon they took off and I invited Sam whom I offed few days ago and another boy, as twinky as they go whom I knew from 3some off on previous trip to seat with me. Sam clearly hoped for an off but tonight I opted for other guy. Perhaps taken by his smile which never left his face. So another twink in my collection and it was good move. He was not hungry so we went to hotel right away and had surprisingly romantic evening , night and morning. Am I in process of switching to twinks? That serious question I need to answer.

Intro I have been reading trip reports of those who have recently been to Bangkok, and taken in a lot of the information that helped me decide some of the things I could do and visit on this trip and places I might want to eat at. It’s only fair that I return the favour by writing about my recent visit to Bangkok. I was last in Bangkok in mid February 2020, soon after the start of COVID, and just a few weeks before travel started to shut down to/ from most countries. This February was my first time back in the city since then. On this trip, I had visited a number of other cities in Africa before heading to Thailand. Bangkok was my last stop, before heading home. This time, I was there for 12 days, in mid February. I came via Doha, travelling on Qatar Airways. I will say, without any hesitation, that their service is the best I have experienced compared to many of the other airlines I have travelled on over the past 5 years. Theirs was actually the cheapest fare in business class from the African city I was travelling from. Their lounge in Doha is huge and lots of staff there to help you if you needed any assistance. The lounge in Bangkok, although smaller, was quite something! They have a limited choice of food options in their lounges, although they will make fresh sandwiches and cook eggs for you, if requested. In comparison, the Turkish Airlines Business Lounge in Istanbul tops the list for food options. Sorry for a bit of digression…. I arrived at the Suvarnabhumi Airport around 12:30 pm. A few flights had landed about the same time, so there were several people in the arrivals area at the time. After a good walk, I was in the Fast track immigration line up. The line I was in was taking longer as a farang ahead of me was being asked several questions by the immigration officer. I changed lines and was served by another officer quickly. (The farang must have spent at least 15 mins with the officer overall). By the time I got to the luggage carousel, my bag was already there. I read in other posts that it had taken much longer to get the bags, so it seems some of those issues have now been addressed. There was a lineup for taxis outside, so it took another 10 minutes before getting into the cab. The driver took the Expressway, but upon exit we had to deal with the daytime traffic in Bangkok. I was headed to the Raya, and told the driver to turn on Surawong, but he turned at Silom, so it took an additional 10 mins in that traffic (and slow traffic lights). Did he do that on purpose for the extra charge? I think so! Check in was quick and I was in the suite on the 8th floor in no time. Agoda had a deal going on couple of months prior, so I got the suite at a very decent rate. This was the least I paid for a hotel room during this whole trip, where I stayed at a number of hotels in different cities. I had invited a friend from Philippines to join me on day 5 of my trip. He was there for a week. While we had some of our meals together, we otherwise each did our own thing. Over the course of 12 days, the weather was very warm, reaching up to 35 degrees on some days. Things cooled down to about 26 deg for 3-4 days after a heavy rainfall overnight and in the morning during the middle part of my trip. Although it became very humid for a day, it was then pleasant. After the short reprieve, the temperature soared back to 35 degrees. What a change in the weather when heading home: from temperatures that reached mid 30’s in Bangkok, to almost zero (with some snow and lots of rain) in my hometown.

Eating I visited the restaurant in Foodland, that has been mentioned several times by other members. I went there for breakfast the first morning in BKK. Cost was very reasonable, as has been mentioned, but I found the portions too big for me, so food went to waste. Following days, I went to a coffee shop in the Silom Complex, in Chamchuri Square and other shops near by. I also went to the Crackhouse (what a name!) for delicious pancakes. It is located in the Commons on Sala Daeng Road. Dinners were at a mix of restaurants – Thai, Indian, fast food (had to try the chicken at Texas Chicken!). Al Saray restaurant on Silom near the Sala Daeng BTS Station was a new find for me. They serve Indian and Lebanese food. I had one of the best biryanis there. I also visited G’s (mentioned by @vinapu in his posts). Went there twice on subsequent days. Went alone one day and had their chicken with cashews. On that day, it was delicious. My Filipino friend also wanted to go there, so we went there the next day. And the same dish was not that great. Quite dry, less tasty and I had an upset stomach after eating there. Not sure what really caused that. It is always a treat eating Thai dishes in the different restaurants. All (except for one day) are pretty good and quite reasonably priced.

day 14 part 2 Our choice of bar for tonight was Jupiter but when we went there it was only singer and few customers inside , too early for boys so we switched to Moonlight greeted warmly by barkers outside. A , the hunk happened to enter stage exactly at the moment when we got our drinks so I did not waste a time and called him over right away and secured him for off later tonight. It worked for both of us as I wanted to see the show and he had short meeting with some client who invited him just for a meal. Fact confirmed bit later by mamas an who wanted to be sure I understand why A need to disappear for hour or so. One of boys on stage was guy whom I recognized as former New twilight dancer and when commented to A that I like his look quite a lot he suggested I take him as well vouching he is great guy. It’s not first time A plays mentor role and tries to promote his bar friends so we can’t say he is selfish. Shortly A finished his drink and went for his meal meeting, promising to be in hotel in hour or two. Radek who arrived only yesterday evening started to feel jet lag so we shook hands for good bye and left too. All of the sudden I was lonely in the full bar so I called buy in question from the stage , bought him a drink ., learned that he is Lao so which endeared him to me bit more as I have almost universal good time with Lao guys, must be something in their water. Asked him about going with me and A and it turned A already primed him about such an option because he confirmed right away he is ready. So I decided to skip what was left of show and we went to hotel. Not as hunky as A or Moonlight models but still very well built and commanding quite good English he turned as great guy as I hoped for. Long ago , independently , American, Soviet and Burkinabe (from Burkina Faso, Africa ) scientists noticed that very often we find our best boys on last or second last night of our trips. That New Twilight transplant seems to be another proof supporting such discovery. Hour later I went downstairs to escort A to the room , guy on reception did not even blink an eye. It 2nd time in row I have A in the room on my last night and great conclusion to such short but rich in turns of action trip .

Day 15 and summary A left earlier. We met many times before and I’m pretty sure he noticed I like our new companion so much so he decided to give us hour or two more, just two of us and when he suggested he will go , true to form I said Ok. Sometime later mu guy said it’s time for him to go and for me to do the same. Shower together , agreed tip plus 500 , he went his way , I packed my goodies and when it started dawning I was on the street catching taxi which conveniently just appeared on horizon. No drama this time , 257 baht on the meter to Swampy. He was very happy when I gave him 300 and asked to keep the change. Two or so hours later I was in the air , taking off from Thailand for 27th time. Time to summarize . I call this trip short but only because last three were almost month long but before 2 weeks was kind of standard, twice I flew just for 1 week and was surprised it worked well. It was first time I was in LOS in January and February and weather was very pleasant but last few days in beginning of February it could be sensed temperature and humidity is climbing up. I’m glad I returned to butterflying meeting only V , N in Pattaya and Maii at Jey Spa more than once. Some boys were probably disappointed , I get it , but it seemed to work for me as previously I noticed in few cases bit of complacency. I don’t like to be taken for granted even if I’m. This is not what it was supposed to be , it was supposed solid 8 days spent with CCP in Phnom Penh and Bangkok but regretfully it did not happen. I was leaving home with very high hopes, expecting great time with him but also aware that we don’t know each other really and his antics with flight change and money requests were warning signals. Few of my friends who were privy to affair from beginning , all were right – chances are that it will not work they warned me unanimously and early on . So stupid guy at least has smart friends, no? I feel disappointed but not bitter. I tried but it did not work . Will I pursue him again ? Most likely no. Will I try once more if he will pursue me ? Most likely yes, much smarter from that experience. No money in advance , no commitment to anything more initially than night stand and only then if satisfied I may look for repeat. Will he try to contact me in the future ? I very much doubt as he may suspect I’m mad as hell. Other than that most guys I met were very good to excellent. Even Tawan boys with exception of one but their sin was with being too greedy so chances are I will put them on diet in future. Best bar this trip for me was , surprisingly to even myself , Hot Male. At one point I counted 10 boys on the stage I could off one by one. It looks I firmly start liking Jupiter, second off in row better than just satisfactory. And I don’t even count HC taken from there, He was bit of sore point of my trip in October but it looks he turned out changed man to my extreme delight. Him, N in Pattaya and guy who visited me in Phnom Penh were as close to boyfriend experience as I could wish followed by several others , not far behind. But if you ask me which of guys I met would be my choice if I had only 1 night in Bangkok it would be my last guy from Moonlight. Somehow I’m intrigued by him, I don’t know why but it must be personality I was also intrigued by no less than 3 guys at Banana, all twinks but sold themselves on their smiles. Next time I may be busy there to Lucy’s delight. I don’t even mention one of their barkers, very easy on eyes indeed and guy I offed from there, another sweet treat. Whenever I return I will pursue both “ axe murderers “ I spot in ThaiRelax soi 6 and in Jomtien. Only hope they will be there. I mentioned this year is big question mark for me when comes to travel everywhere. This may mean that I may show up at Thai illustrious shores at very short notice if I will see that’s only option. As for hotels I found Okay Boutique in Phnom Penh extremely good value for money and can recommend it with clear conscience. I continue to consider Furama Sathorn Xclusive as my top find in Silom area , while still loyal to Baan Silom. Rose and particularly Le Siam were nice discoveries while shiny Ibis Styles , while impressive , I found bit overpriced for what I got . I like some space in my rooms. But I’m glad I tried them. Jet lags continue to ruin me , each time it seems to be worse and worse. Only cure are longer trips and less hectic schedule in the first week. Or staying home , obviously not an option. Even with stress and disappointment this trip belongs definitely to better half of my trips so far.

Day 8 When parting in the morning I upped his tip by savings on his meal last night and even pointed it to him. Hope word spreads that it pays not to be too glutenous. At 9 am met farang friend in café near Mahanakhon, we had talk till 11 and resolved to go to train market after tomorrow , agreed to meet at Wongwian Yai station in time for 10.40 train. Then I had mission as I got suspicion from combing Grindr that one on my best guy ever, certain M from Senso is working as hairdresser in one of shops in Rama IX Central. So jumped on MRT and soon was combing that sizable mall in search of hairdresser shops. Unfortunately did not spot him, perhaps too early , or his day off or whatever. Will try next time in Bangkok as I don’t give up on him easily. Being in area went to Ratchada train market but it was too early and shops were closed but walking there I found 10 baht coin so at least my efforts paid of. Next step was to have massage at new shop of 9-Teen in soi 6 with guy who was resident masseur in Tawan last year , now task taken by Mas , their resident twink. New shop is quite impressive, well designed and everything smells new. Word is that massage is proper , just like Prime around the corner without any sinister moves. Let’s say I decline comment on that , I liked my massage session only conclusion was bit unnerving since my guy wanted higher tip than I offered. I succumbed to request but it will be while before he will see me if at all. As much as I like Tawan and their boys , I built reputation there as handy money dispenser. I know it’s my fault but it starts hurting me so perhaps it’s time to switch that pain to guys and show them that greed is not good for their financial health. But that’s for future as that massage reminded me that this trip I did not go to Tawan yet so resolved to pay them a visit tonight. But first a dinner, this time in G”Bangkok in soi 4 . they have one fusion German -Thai dish in casserole I like so much. Don’t remember name of it but on the page where they list fusion servings that’s the one in the very bottom. Next step was my daily drink with P at Hot Male and after a while there I walked to Tawan. It was nice to be greeted by all those smiles and handshakes, less nice to fend off all those palms stretched for tips. Today my tips were reserved for performers in the show but yes , I bought drinks for 3 guys sitting with me including K and B whom I offed few times in the past. I was bit surprised , K’s cousin waitress in Happy Beer did not spy on me as he was not aware I’m in Bangkok. I always admire Thai discretion. Show as always was quite brave and very modern including not one but two special shows and usual JO competition so I dispensed 9 red notes for their efforts. K remembered that in Dec on his birthday I promised him to buy him whisky so I decided to off him tonight, invited him for a dinner in 7.5 stars and just before deadline bought him a bottle of wine as he asked for such substitution. And then to hotel for activities like knitting , stamp collection rearrangement and world peace discussions.

Since I tend to do a lot of massages when I'm here I figured maybe it makes sense to put my impressions in one thread. I already mentioned my experience at Zoo Spa and Onsen in that dedicated thread, so I won't rehash it here. Prime Massage, Silom Soi 6. Yesterday I visited Prime in Silom Soi 6. Obviously this place is a huge massage factory. My back and neck were giving me some trouble so I thought a real, legit massage was in order. I did a 90 min oil massage. I liked the orange scented oil. No choice of masseurs but I didn't really care. The young woman at the desk took my 700 baht and had me take a seat briefly. Then I was led across the soi to the annex building. Showered down the hall. The sign in the shower about the 20000 baht fine if you poop in the shower gave me some pause. I presume that means it's actually happened in the past. Back to the room and onto the table. The table had a face cut out but was nearly as uncomfortable as a bed without it. The masseur used VERY hard pressure. Ultimately I had to cry out when he did that thing that too many masseurs do of pinching the muscle on the inside of the thigh. It hurts like hell and I had to tell him not to do that. I might have been a little loud in my protest. But he did ease up. Overall the massage was very thorough if totally legit with absolutely no hanky panky suggested or necessary. It was a bit painful though and too rough for me. I actually would have appreciated some slow stretching but his movements were too abrupt. I tipped 500 (I was pointed to the policy of 100 minimum at the cashier desk) because I thought it was fair, not because I was totally happy with the experience. 15M Massage (Saphan Kwai BTS) Today it was off to a part of the city I don't think I've ever visited before. 15M Massage is about a 30 second walk from the Saphan Kwai BTS (exit 3). So it's quite convenient. I booked Noom in advance (photo below). He looks almost nothing like this photo. So much so that I questioned to myself whether it was the same guy. His hair is no longer blond. But the tattoo matches up and so do the earrings. He's also a bit more muscular than in this photo. Booking via Line was easy. They also have a Twitter account (https://twitter.com/boybk12345) Mostly straight guys. Many quite handsome. And they are teamed up with the nearby 27M Massage. But since this location is so easy to get to I chose it. I arrived a few minutes early and Noom was already there as well. I asked for the 90 minute "aroma" massage which is my basic go-to option. I paid the 550 baht to the handsome boy at the cashier station and was led up one level. Room was very basic with a just a thin mattress on the floor. I was pointed to the shower up a further flight of stairs. Once back in the room Noom was already undressed and ready to go. The "massage" was basically terrible. I suspect there is no training for these guys and anyway no one is going there for a proper massage. It was just a mindless rub spending an inordinate amount of time on one leg, then the other before eventually progressing to a back rub. It was not especially erotic or relaxing - just kind of mechanical. After a while I was mercifully invited to flip over. The AC was a bit too cold and my efforts to communicate that were unsuccessful. Either my Thai is really terrible (likely) or he just didn't understand me or my pantomime of being cold. His phone dinged constantly with Line messages. Obviously the polite thing to do is silence your notifications in such a situation. He did offer to fuck me, but that's not my thing. So we moved on to other things that I do enjoy. I will say he was impressively hard with very little input needed. After a while the lights were flickered which I presume was meant as a signal to wrap up. Once we did finish I noted that barely an hour had passed. So, my 90 minute session was not what I go. But frankly I was fine with that. A satisfactory ending was achieved but on the whole not the greatest experience ever. Noom left me to shower alone as did he. We could have conserved some water, but that's not the way it worked out. They do have a couple of gay guys on staff so that might be a better option unless you just want a straight guy to fuck you. I did note several cute boys on my way out. If I'd had a better experience I would be more inclined to return.

Day 12 It was 9.30 when we finally left bed and considering my stay in Pattaya was only 23 hours, 12 out of those I spent in bed , not a bad thing I guess. We went for breakfast to French place on the corner, our favorite. Then after quite emotional goodbyes N went to gym and I to bus station to buy a ticket for noon’s bus. Good move since next customers , two Russian girls purchased last 2 available for that hour. I returned to hotel , packed up little I had and returned to bus station to learn that at 12 noon not one but two busses are departing and both were full. At 1.45 pm we were already at Swampy, quite fast for the bus. Hour later I was checking in Ibis Styles, brand new venue on Silom, bit hidden but located right across Patpong. Lobby impressive and room very modern but quite small. The same like in Quarter Silom, well appointed and organized but still small. Glass shower but toilet in separate room, better arrangement than in Raya . Desk size of two postcards and only three hangers for clothes but at least there was window. In short, I liked it but not for a price. For 20 $ less I had room of triple size at Furama Sathorn , breakfast included in both cases. So as they say I stay there two times, first and last unless they will have some real deal indeed. After setting I walked to Furama to pick up my suitcase. Soon after anddy showed up so we had nice talk in the lobby exchanging latest news. After he went home I primed myself for bar visits, then to G’Bangkok for a dinner and then across the soi to Banana Club where I had beer outside before entering inside for the show. Nothing big about show there but at least there was break so boys could present themselves and I distributed few tips and called #10 , one who was sitting with me few days ago for a drink. Fast we agreed on short time hotel visit. Mamasan Lucy rushed to congratulate me a choice, this time I gave up and forced 100 baht tip upon her. During show I got angry Line message from birthday boy Handsome Cambodian’ why you did not tell me you are in Thailand?” . Learning that he is in Jupiter I resolved who will be my long timer tonight, hence short time with #10. It was short but nevertheless great time , adorable baby quality smooth skin, how they do it ? I wondered. After we solved all world’s problem he left and soon after I walked back to soi 4 to get my catch. Not so fast though. Guy selling tickets in front of Jupiter did not allow me to go inside without buying drink ticket which was not my intention as all I wanted was to off Handsome Cambodian. So we had a bit of stalemate. Fortunately one of their mamasans emerged outside and I wasted no time to tell him what I want ‘I want to off HC “ , soon I was presented with 500 baht invoice and minute or two later my birthday boy emerged all in smiles but still pretending to be upset with my secrecy. Only when I told him I wanted to surprise him on his birthday he “forgave” me. I saw him few times before but never so happy like today. He is one who appears a bit grumpy but not tonight and not with me. It looks that after commotion we had last trip over phone overuse when he dumped me after 1 night he realized that ATM like me must be appreciated and it must be shown. I forgave him, met him later and I’m happy to see that he finally started to realize simple fact that I like him and is in his best interest to show he likes me too. We went to Foodland as he was hungry , had some light meal and them kind of impatiently we walked to the room . What a charming and sweet young man ! Phone left on the desk , far from bed if at Ibis anything can be far. Kissy, clingy , you name it ! I was very impressed. Perhaps meal we had was too modest as at 4 am he asked for a break to go to Foodland to eat something but did not even ask for food money true to form. He has a habit of buying small things with own money without waiting for farang to but it. I suspect that he wanted a smoke more than food but did not want to admit it as I warned him that many clients may not like smell of cigarettes. But over all it was off on top of all of all offs.

Fixed your post title for you: The Begging Culture of Brasilian Sex Tourism Thailand, Colombia, Brazil, Spain, Switzerland etc... The Money Beg™ is a thing. You kind of have to get used to it. You can avoid all of this with a simple "no". If they insist, be firmer with the "no". Unless you have soft spot for the guy, I don't think this is an unreasonable response. If they really insist, I archive their chats on WhatsApp to mute them. Out of sight, out of mind. Early in my Brazil Tourism life I did ask certain GPs why certain guys do this. They say don't take it personally. They've probably have asked money from countless other former johns at the same time as they asked you. Rent is due after all. Sending these money begs are free for them, and even if only one john replied with a "yes" and sends them the money, then their money beg was worth it.

Vinapu, I would add to your list, those of us who choose to retire here to continue all of what is written above - because it is cheaper than in our home countries, the weather is better, the food is great, the beaches are wonderful. Furthermore, the big gay retirement community that is here gives us a sense of happiness and security knowing that we can avoid the assisted care centers back in our home countries, that might require us to go back into the closet for the last years of our lives. Instead, we can die with dignity, having our Thai guys take care of us until the bitter end - in my mind, this Thai type of assisted living care is SO much better than the back home version and is affordable. Last year, my mother died in assisted living care (she was there for 3 long years), and it was costing us between $7,000 to $9,000 USD each month - truly outrageously expensive. The assisted care center was nice - but very mechanical and mundane in its approach - not the way that I want to finish the last years of my life - so, Thailand it is for me.

all I know we only know about them as much as they told us. The same works other way. I personally am not that critical and as reader pointed , I see young men who are trying to make living using assets they have i.e themselves and their good looks. some are quite uplifting like one of my semi-regulars , single father who use to proudly point 'I don't have girlfriend but i have a son" Other one , also mentioned often in my reports was orphaned my mother in his childhood ( my friend who also offed him overheard him mumbling to himself ' mom help me", quite moving ) and later father was killed by Thai police. Yet still managed to built a house in his native village, whatever it is he calls a house. Personally when I think about them I avoid generalizations. Not all are poor or coming from poor backround. I know about 4 who have a car. One has small business, other one owns a condo. few , judging but how they speak English have quite extensive education. By no means they are prevailing examples but they do exist. One who has steady job but paying only 10200 per month freely admits he goes with clients for easy money. Sleepless night bringing him 3000 it's almost 1/3 of his monthly take after all The same applies to us, their clients. Our motivations to engage in the world of paid sex half world from home are very different and sometimes not even clear to ourselves I suspect. Some like Asians, some like sex far from home, some like to avoid any commitments (old saying 'most expensive sex is free one). It will be sex addicts and those who treat sex as vacation adventure. And it will be those like me who fruitlessly search for dream guy who can be offed for hand holding session only. Such dream guys are existing but it seems heat of the moment always derails hand holding only part.

I'll not comment on the second line with its vitriolic and quite uncalled for stupidity. As for the first line, this boy was fulfilling his dream. I have no doubt he was deliriously happy to be achieving that. If we all stayed home, what a boring, moronic lot we'd all be!

that was precisely my intention, to show that good time can be had if one wants to have that. And is very easy to find it. Naysayers may be right that old times were better in terms of variety of options available and certainly more liberal but what I observe every trip , even if options are shrinking , they are still abundant. I was there 14 days , 12 of those in Thailand and only at Hot Male go-go I counted 10 guys I wanted to off . So one can go easily on monodiet. As for liberal side, very graphic performances may be appealing to some but appalling to others so not even sure that part is missed that much , I personally like bit of spice in bar shows but that's me. I was thinking about missing whole part of Cambodian Charming Prince fiasco as certainly I look stupid falling into that trap but decided it's better to be open, first because it may provide lesson , second because I still cherish memories of those pre-trip days when I was sooo excited such chance opened for me , third to show that disaster today may be replaced by fun soon after and fourth , even if I don't believe what I'm saying , until i hear other side of story , there's vague possibility that that fiasco was not fiasco at all and I should be glad it happened avoiding bigger trouble and expense - again half full part of glass theory.

Day 9 K left at 8 after breakfast downstairs with promise to take him to MahaNakhon. We were there already but obviously he liked it and this trip I did not go there yet so why not? One day we ‘ll go. Then I went to met my farang friend again in the same place we met yesterday. We confirmed trip to train market tomorrow. Returning to hotel I packed my meagre belongings and moved to Furama Sathorn Xclusive hotel. That move was planned as safety valve after CCP asked me to move flights. I wanted to have escape route in case things won’t work. After discovering that hotel in Dec 2021 it’s my most favorite in BKK and even better value than Raya. Older place but room are big and breakfast included in price. In fact when cost of breakfast for two at Foodland is added to Baan Silom rate cost of staying at Furama Xclusive works out almost the same. It was short walk from one hotel to another and luckily my room was already available so I could move in just before noon and again they rewarded my loyalty by upgrading me one notch above room I booked. Goes without saying never problems with visitors there and nobody is rising brews seeing different companion every morning. In Decmeber 2021 hero of my trip was T from Sabaidee spa but somehow I did not see him after that trip, neither in May nor in October last year an somehow I felt nostalgic today so I Lined him and asked to come to work at 5 pm for reunion and after that fell asleep for good 2 hours. All those long times and sleepless nights are showing . Trek to Sabaidee for very rewarding massage session , too bad that his English is almost non existent and not much talk could be done using google translate as obviously we did not meet for smartphone session. Even if it was excellent and in great degree proper massage session I decided for one more. But first , feeling hungry I went to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for a dinner and was surprised how busy restaurant was – I took last table. Then to hotel to refresh and shave and my next step was Tawan but not for show. Another day K told me that after M left for 9-Teen, now Mas, resident twink is one who is giving massages and since I like him , thank you very much, I couldn’t deny myself a pleasure. I was bit surprised that their price was raised to 800 , it was only 500 last two trips. Session was great and we even had some massage indeed so despite price it was pure pleasure – that is what happens when you really like the guy. At end I was taken aback a bit when he asked for no less than 2000 tip but I paid gladly since as I said above, I like him. But at that price it may be once a trip pleasure. I think I’m pricing myself out of Tawan, don’t blame boys but myself. Never thought being stingy has merits but slowly I’m warming to an idea , at least there. I did not stay in bar, only told B I will off him later and paid off fee to secure it and went to soi 4 to Banana Club. I had a beer outside as I like one of their barkers , bought him a beer and slipped 100 baht into his jeans discretely using well rehearsed Vinapu Tuck. One day I must get acquainted with him closer. Even Her Majesty Mamasan Lucy came to say hallo and asked if I have a tip for her to an cheerful answer ‘ no’. Then another beer inside, I asked one of their guys to seat with me , bought him a drink and tipped 500 for a feel. Smooth like baby and endowed like porn pro so money well spent. After a good half an hour I sent him back to the stage knowing I won’t off him tonight and it was great move as he was called by some other customer right after -poor guy in audience was probably waiting impatiently if I off the boy or not. Boys in Banana are not generally my type but apart from guy sitting with me I spotted other 4 I could off, all twinks with hooliganish faces I so like. Who knows, one day I will test them one by one. It was past 11pm when after having so good time in Banana I returned to Tawan to pick up B. Of course as soon as I went inside few palms were outstretched and few undies lowered , all asking for tips but since today I changed religion to stingy , all were left empty handed and empty underweared. I start liking my new, Scrooge like, behavior there. I lie bar and boys there but as I said , I spoiled them and in process my experience there. Now time to reverse course. Advantage of B is not only his built- steely muscles with 0% fat but also distinction of being one without habit of outstretched palm. Dinner at Foodland , again I swear the same friendly waiter suggested he orders steak and today it was prime cut indeed so good value for my money and then quick moto rode to hotel for another mostly sleepless night.

I visited SR for 10 days in February and this is a brief write up of my visit. I am going to be discreet but I am happy answer any specific questions about venues or activities…..just drop me a message. I found vinapu’s previous account of his visit interesting and I did discover Hanuman beer…excellent! I stayed at Men’s Resort. It was a real oasis in a busy city and excellent to return to after a busy day. The food was excellent as were the cocktails and were reasonably priced. The room was clean, cool and spacious and I would recommend this hotel. The only slight issue was the distance from the centre of town which did need a tuk tuk trip there and back unless you were going to arrive really sweaty. Tuk tuks plentiful outside the hotel and the price seemed to be $2 into Pub Street and $3 back. I did not sample the massages at the hotel but a friend who was staying had a number and said that there were excellent and enjoyable. I visited the spa in the hotel 3 times and each time was busy, especially on week ends and after 6.30/7pm. A real mix of locals who tended to outnumber the tourists. I found many local guys to be bottoms who wanted a European top guy so if you’re bottom, it can be a tad frustrating. Some beautiful men so if you’re a top, you will have a great time. I also visited Massage 168 and had arranged via email to meet a beautiful guy from the pics they had sent me. When I arrived on Sunday afternoon, the guy at reception said the guy I wanted to meet was unavailable as his grandmother was ill! There were two other massage guys there behind a curtain and I chose a muscular one for the massage. Massage was competent but it was obvious he was just going through the motions. I ended the massage early as there was no connection and did not return. I did not find the place particularly clean either and this was probably the least pleasurable experience I have had in Asia. I also visited Gecko massage near Pub Street and chose a muscular Cambodian guy for a massage. He was very willing and enthusiastic as well as being gorgeous and this resulted in a $30 tip. This was a far better experience than the one previously. In relation to the gay scene I went to 4 places. A new bar called Rendezvous Bar has opened and this was a fun bar to meet other gay travellers. The owner, Roland, was lovely and the drinks were great, especially the gin and tonics. Also, the Thai peanut mix was to die for…I think Christian mentioned this previously on another post…you have to go to taste this as well as viewing the gorgeous bar staff, especially Mao. I met some lovely fellow travellers there and would recommend this bar as an enjoyable stop off to chat and have fun. I went to the new Miss Wong’s cocktail bar which has moved from near Pub Street to the other side of the river. It is a beautiful old house setting and the cocktails were some of the best I had on my Asia visit. Not particularly a gay vibe, a bit formal cocktail loungy but hugely enjoyable none the less. I also visited a place the other side of the Night Market called Look@Me which seemed a bit run down, was small, on a noisy road and had no customers but this was early evening. I did not go in. Not for me. The place which was really fun was Barcode. I visited this years ago and it has got better. A great routine by the performers. When I visited three times, there was a mix of tourists and some Cambodians and the bar staff are really friendly especially some of the hot waiters. One of the muscular bar staff was so hot I and flirtatious and I wish I had followed vinapu’s tactic of tipping him $5! Maybe the next visit? The place which is not really on any guide but which was a real discovery was Home Cocktail Bar. I met an Australian guy who lives in SR for part of the year and he recommended this bar to meet gay Cambodians. It has great cocktails and food, is very reasonably priced and when I visited, packed with gay Cambodian guys who seemed to be interested in tourists. I spent three evenings there talking, flirting and getting to know some lovely local guys. Cocktails $1.50! A huge recommendation with the plus side that you get to meet locals. I found that locals are priced out of some of the other bars so this is the place to go! It was my favourite place in SR. I found that Blued was hopeless here and I had more success with Grindr with guys wanting to meet, invariably for payment. $30/40 seemed to be the going rate to meet and there are some beautiful guys in Siem Reap. When I got Tuk tuks back to Men’s at night a lot of the drivers seemed to know guys who would meet tourists for fun and some showed pictures. I did not take them up on their offers but they seemed genuine. All in all SR is a fun place to visit.

What a horrible thing to say about someone that was murdered.

Day 14 I set alarm because I did not want to be late at MahaNakhon at agreed 10 am and today is my hotel moving day so right after breakfast at Ibis downstairs I need to pack. Released room leaving luggage for storage at reception and marched to Mahanakhon when I was surprised to see K already as agreement was he will pick up Radek from his hotel and they arrive on his motorbike. Clearly misunderstanding on K part Soon Radek showed up and we went up . Ticket the same , 250 senior over 60 , 880 the rest. Another place where is plainly visible that tourism picked up, gone are days when in the morning there were just few people. After admiring views, quite foggy day today unfortunately and taking obligatory picture on the glass to make family and friend jealous we went to Amazon near Chong Nonsi BTS for a coffee and sandwich and from there I went straight to Jey Spa for my 1 pm massage with Maii arranged yesterday. While first session about week ago was very good , today was nothing short of excellent. Benefit of us being familiar with each other. Great consolation after last night fiasco, part massage , part romantic, exactly how things should be . Worth every penny of 1250 massage fee and 1800 min. tip enhanced by me by 400 as I was truly happy with experience and fact that finally pain I was feeling in my left leg ever since my long 16 hours flight was gone. I walked few steps along the soi when Maii stopped on his motorsai and gave me lift to the BTS station as a bonus I guess. I returned to Ibis , liberated my suitcase and rolled her to Convent to my next digs, Le Siam ( formerly Swiss hotel ). I got room on 7th floor with a view. Room sizable, well furnished, spacious walk / roll in shower. I’m sure if price will be right I will stay there again . It’s only very short walk from Silom so location is excellent and as we will learn later no problem with visitors. I said visitors , not visitor, understand ? Yesterday I reported about guy I sped in Thai Relax in soi 6 so I went there and on approach my heart beat increased as he was seating at front. Bingo ! NOP. He said he is booked and suggested I take his friend sitting nearby. Disappointed but not wanting to create lose of face I agreed. Massage was good , not that freshly massaged by Maii at Jey I need one and guy quite pleasant but hunk or axe murderer he was not. Only when I returned home I learned from other member who hired him few times that I missed plenty indeed as hunk turned excellent in both body and skills. At least I know where I got first next time in BKK. It was late afternoon and I was till running on that coffee and sandwich but We were supposed to have dinner with Radek at Foodland but he went too far and Lined me is sitting already at G’Bangkok in soi 4 so we treated ourselves with meal and conversation there. Then seeing restaurant is busy we released table and moved across the soi to Banana club outside for a beer and more talk. day 14 to be continued

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Today's adventures took me to Siam Square. Obviously it's been the center of youth culture here for a long time. Now they've set up some areas for young student bands to play in the evenings. I've seen some big name groups play on the street there as well. Off to one side of the action tonight was a giant kpop dance party that was so fun. Mostly it seemed to be queer boys and their girl friends of all shapes and sizes and little sisters and brothers. Whoever knew the choreo would jump in when a song started playing or they would clear the dance area for those who did know the moves. Everyone was having so much fun. Lots of girly boys in skirts. It all just felt so incredibly positive and empowering. You could tell that it was a great community. I'd estimate a couple of hundred dancers and a large collection of on-lookers. It was heart-warming for this tired old queen. The bands were interesting too. Most seemed to be HS kids. One group included two boys with rainbow guitar straps - one with a pink guitar and the other with a bass that had a little kawaii stuffed animal hanging off of it. Lots of girl musicians and singers in the mix. Pretty much all cover songs that I recognized. Overall it was a fun place to spend some time.

few more pictures from train market and several seconds later:

I don't do it because I believe actions of individual boys is private, individual, based on chemistry and training. What a boy may or not do for me may also be different for another customer. I decided many years ago on my early reports that I would either describe what happened or name the boy but never both. That a boy is not good at massage today or doesn't do afters today does not mean that won't have changed significantly in a couple of months once he realises the difference in the tips he gets or gains more practice.

Paradise Massage - Soi 13/4 down from A-Bomb and Boyztown entrance. Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 400. No minimum mentioned for boy Boys quality: I'd passed earlier in my trip and it had a poor selection but 2nd time I went past there was a variety of 6 or so boys. The boys seem to take it in turns if you don't show an immediate preference. The boy was very keen, had a cute face and body, a big smile and was quite young. Not my normal type but I didn't have the heart to say no as he was literally bouncing around. Ambience: Surprisingly nice. The room had a large shower cubicle in and plenty of space. I'm pretty sure all rooms are not the same. Stairs are a bit iffy (quite narrow) if you have difficulties and no bannister on lower portion. Massage Quality: The massage was pretty good. Very sensual and as soon as the boy started he rested his cock and balls on the soles of my feet as he massaged my legs. He kept his cock and balls in easy range all through the massage but the funniest thing was that his cock was incredibly sensitive. Once I realised, I basically had him nearly doubled up due to just how sensitive he was. It was hugely amusing for me but he gamely carried on. The ending was mutual BJ as he was very much a bottom. Overall - As much as it was a fun time and good massage, I prefer a top. I will go back though with luck before the end of my trip.

I'm no lawyer, but none other than Laurence Tribe thinks Dominion Voting Systems' request for a $1.6 billion summary judgment against Fox News is likely to succeed. For others who are not legal eagles, a summary judgment is one in which the facts are so compelling that a judge finds no need for a trial and decides the case on the information that has been presented in the brief. In this case, Tribe thinks that Dominion has provided enough evidence that Fox News deliberately spread lies that Dominion's voting machines were faulty and denied Donald Trump the 2020 election. “I have never seen a defamation case with such overwhelming proof that the defendant admitted in writing that it was making up fake information in order to increase its viewership and its revenues,” Tribe told the Guardian. “Fox and its producers and performers were lying as part of their business model.” One such piece of proof was a tweet put out a day after the election by Fox reporter Jaqui Heinrich who “correctly factchecked [a Trump] tweet, pointing out that top election infrastructure officials said that there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.” After the tweet, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity went ballistic. They asked to get Heinrich fired because the truth was hurting their ability to broadcast misinformation and that was interfering with their ratings, and with Fox News' stock price. She took down her tweet the following day. But all the tweets and compromising emails still exist and are included in Dominion's brief. Fox News lawyers say the falsehoods knowingly spread by their anchors are protected by the First Amendment. But others disagree. “You may have a first amendment right to report on what the president said but you have no right to validate a statement that you know to be false,” said Steven Shapiro, former legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union and counsel or co-counsel on more than 200 supreme court briefs. It's possible this landmark case could be decided quickly. And it's not the only lawsuit Dominion has filed. Billion-dollar cases against Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell are still active. Personally, it would please me greatly if Dominion prevailed in all its cases and actually received multi-billion-dollar judgments. For too many years, we've been inundated with known lies masquerading as truth and there have been few if any consequences. Here's hoping that's about to change. 🤞

"now that weed is legal in Thailand" be very careful about this ! Only weed with less than 0,2 of THC is legal. This is quite low and many shops does not respect this limit... at the buyer risk. The new Police Scam is for them to randomly check tourists with weed... they know that it is quite probable that the weed will not comply with this limit (they have fast check kits). So if you buy weed, have also 15 000 THB with you to pay the fine... the police love these new easy income...

I guess we are all different. I would rather have a prostitute as a friend than a snob.

Day 13 part 1 When I mentioned breakfast in the morning he said that I should go and he prefers to catch on a sleep as I did not let him sleep too much. I had answer ‘ because I like you “ .And so did him :” I know”. This is how men talk romantic stuff I guess. So I went to eat breakfast downstairs alone and after returning I let him to sleep a bit but not too long because his naked body was just to tempting to be wasted on a sleep alone so we embraced and slept (him ,not me, I savoured the moment ) till 2 pm or so. We were both hungry and that chased us from the bed, another trip to Unesco designated, some modest offering and time to part ways. I walked him a bit toward his friends home where he is staying and passing Tawan finally he told me how he learned they I’m in Thailand. Last night going to work he was greeted by K sitting outside bar. They met when we went to Icon Siam with 18past19 to dine . K recognized him and wasted no time to announce “Grandpa is here “ “ Fuck you K ! “ I quietly sighted, LOL. Only when we were parting ways I slipped him his tip. All that time he did not mention money at all to a degree that I had suspicion he did not even expect any tip from me. Somebody (TottalyOz ?) mentioned in the thread few days ago when we were discussing second chances that some guys may be appreciating giving them second chance more than we think or something to this effect. I have impression HC was such case. Then I Lined Jey Spa and asked for another meeting with Maii tomorrow at 1, confirmation like last time was swift. In the afternoon time for Arena, not yet visited this trip. One of their guys was smoking outside and escorted me in. Not that I need it being veteran customers there . I remember their former location one floor below when it was new , talk of the town, place. And as it happened I was one of first clients in their new, current location. Veteran mamasan Art greeted me warmly as always. Most boys today were new faces to me , all on older and hunky side with few really well built. I had bit of problem to make decision so took east way to solve it and picked up guy who was standing right in front of me . Not a bad choice, he was in shirt but when removed it in the room , chiseled torso showed up and quite sizable biceps. He could be weekend part-timer because massage while correct was just that, just OK. For some reason he got quite heated and expressed strong , visible , condom- on- already enhanced desire to rape me and I had hard time to explain I’m not interested at the moment. Disappointment was visible but I soothed it with 1500 tip plus kiss. Massage fee was 790 and 200 change from 1000 baht note was split evenly between Art and me. Tonight another member Radek48 is supposed to come , we were in contact over Line and he promised to let me know when he will be ready to meet and hit the bars or whatever we decide. Well massaged and almost raped I went to Hot Male downstairs for a beer. My usual drinking companion P was absent and when I asked other boy if he is offed by somebody he rolled eyes knowingly so I knee too. I did not finish even half bottle of my Chang when message came from Radek48 that he is ready and waiting in the lobby of his hotel so I walked there. We never met nor exchanged pictures but somehow I knew that guy standing in front of the building and checking his phone must be him and of course bingo ! We hit it on right away. Talking we made great tour of the scene starting with soi 6 and Tawan, we did not go inside of any bar though. Yet. day 13 to be continued

to get you an idea why I sing such accolades to Furama Sathorn few pictures of my room, there including famous suitcase which was supposed to be gifted to CCP in Phnom Penh.

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Somjit Massage - Tukcom - Turn right at Tukcom. Somjit is 150 yards up on right hand side. If you get to Helios you've gone to far. Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 300. No minimum for boy Boys quality: 2 boys on duty when I got there late afternoon but was about 5 or 6 when I left. Generally youngish. Ambience: No shower offered. Room is open with 4 beds and curtains in between. Each area is very small. 1 to 2 feet of space on each side. Massage Quality: The massage was ok. The boy knew the moves but was very light touch. He also avoided all sensual areas for the first 45 minutes of the massage. No chemistry at all and when he tried to get me hard at the end I simply told him no thanks. Overall - I'm guessing it will be erratic. I'm not going to go back during this trip but I've heard others have had better luck there.

Foxy Massage - Jomtien Complex - Same side of road as Zing R&S and Agate. Just before Soda Massage Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 300. No minimum for boy Boys quality: 8 to 10 boys. Mix of ages and types. Ambience: No shower offered. Basic room. Massage Quality: What massage !! Got into the room, the boy made a half hearted couple of rubs on my calf, moved up to my thigh and then shoved 3 fingers up my ass without so much as a by your leave. He also had nails that felt like razor blades. Suffice to say, if you want a fuck this is a poor substitute for all the boy bars in Jomtien. if you want a massage go to Soda which is 50 yards away. Overall - I'll be generous and call it crap.

Soda Massage - Jomtien Complex - Diagonally opposite Dick's Cafe - End of road with Agate/Zing R&S Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 300. No minimum mentioned for boys. Boys quality: Lots of choice (10 to 15 boys) but more twinks and few muscle. Ambience: 9 rooms, pretty clean with doors but thin walls which do not go to ceiling. Communal shower and open toilet. Massage Quality: I've been 3 times since I arrived 2 weeks ago and it's a little pot luck as far as I can tell. Massage 1 - Good massage, more sensual than firm but lots of good touch. Afters were HJ and prostate massage. Enjoyable Massage 2 - OK massage, not enough pressure and in no way sensual. Masseur stayed dressed and moved away from touch. No afters. Not a good enough massage overally Massage 3 - Good massage, again more sensual than firm but lots of good touch. Afters were BJ and prostate massage. Enjoyable Overall - It's got the most choice I found at the moment but there seem to be a few masseurs who will only give a very basic massage. Still worth it overall, just watch your choice.

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Not sure how sensible this was, but it's an interesting look inside now

I went to Thailand only once, but actually had a pretty good experience with a gogoboy from hotmale. He was very fun to be with, I took him to a temple visit around Pattaya, to the elephant park / garden, to the mall, to the big Buddha statue, to a river cruise+dinner in Bangkok, to get a manicure and a couple massage etc. And of course every meal together. If you have a bit of chemistry, it works. Maybe not for two weeks, but 3 days is fun and you get to learn a bit more about that guy that if you had just an overnight.

Although not in Thailand, I thoroughly recommend the still relatively undeveloped Vietnamese island of Phu Quoc. It's actually situated under Sihanoukville but is Vietnamese. It's like Phuket used to be and has some marvellous hotels depending on your budget. I used points to stay at the Marriott Resort which was magnificent. Pricey but there are cheaper hotels on different beaches. There is a daily Thai Vietjet flight from BKK. Bangkok Airways used to run a daily flight from BKK which may return to the schedule in the next few months. On mainland Thailand I'd also recommend Khao Lak. This is located about 100 kms north of Phuket airport and is basically a series of hotels well set apart as to be all but invisible from each other. Fabulous sandy beaches and lots of local small eateries on the beach if you wish to avoid the hotel coffee shops/restaurants. There are several excursions including, if I recall correctly, one to one of the Andaman Islands (but that needs checking). Again the Marriott Resort is excellent but also pricey. The only time to avoid are European holidays like Easter and Christmas when it is packed mostly with German tourists. My photos were taken the week after Easter when the hotel was still 100% full. But you can see how empty the beach was.

Your reports have given the forum a much-needed boost, Vinapu. They demonstrate that it's indeed still possible to have a great time in BKK and Pattaya despite the naysayers who see the glass as nearly empty compared to back in the day. That you didn't--as Floridarob observed--sugar coat it made it even more entertaining. Your day-by-day quest to wring the maximum satisfaction out of your limited time will surely inspire others not to allow temporary setbacks to detract from all that Thailand has to offer in terms of sights, sounds and men.

day 13 part 2 Passing massage places in soi 6 in Thai Relax I spotted prime beef hunk with 1st class axe murderer face sitting there so I knew I need to visit tomorrow, hell or high water. Then we walked along Silom to Patpong 2 . At Hot Male I asked if my unfinished bottle is still there but thay already disposed it so we kept marching toward Moonlight where in dark alley leading to it I showed him now blocked corridor when 21 years ago in short time room I had pleasure to get intimated with my first ever Thai guy taken from long gone Up To You bar on Rama where Take a Nap hostel now is. Moonlight barkers tried to lure us in but we wanted to complete tour so as always I told them “We like girls” and through Thainya we continued to soi 4 to complete whole tour. Thaniya seemed quite busy and hope old food stands where bar boys used to eat and socialize after bars closed will be reinstated soon to facilitate last chance for them and us, the patrons , all the same as before. In soi 4 we settled for a drink outside of Jupiter to talk even more and plan on which bar we will lavish our presence tonight. At one point I noticed HC coming to work , all smiles seeing me again. Radek did not have preference and when asked about mine I suggested Moonlight so far missed this trip or Tawan. Tawan it was so we went there and arrived just in time for the show. Today I played Scrooge, no tips to boys other than actual performers. K approached as and since Radek kind of liked him he sat with us throughout the show. We agreed to take Mahanakhon trip tomorrow morning, all three of us. As usual show very brave and modern, nothing tame about Tawan shows. About 1/3 of audience were Chinese girls but they were also mostly modern and uninhibited, not averse to checking how hard rigid dick is. There are two more twinks, one of them , bottom is special show had his first day today so upon learning that I Vinapu Tucked 100 baht into his undies when passed by him on my way to the loo for good beginning I did not plan to off anybody tonight but just before we left I decided to off P for old time sake. For me as well as readers my reports he is kind of legend being guy who was my second worst and the best off ever. So at best we can say record is mixed. Back in 2017 I guess, on my first night in BKK he gave me definitely THE BEST boyfriend experience I ever had with lets say, hired help. Two years earlier though , at time when he was extremely popular in Tawan he agreed to go with me only to announce he will go with somebody else when I was paying off fee leaving me kind of empty handed in the middle of the bar. So when I advocate giving 2nd or even 3rd chance I know first hand what I’m talking about. Only once I had worse experience , with Dreamboy guy who refused to undress , get touched, take a shower and still requested full tip calling even mamasan for help. In meantime between those two extremes I offed P two or three times and pattern was similar , pleasant and active but trying to conclude experience as fast as possible , cash in and go. Classic would say ‘ you cum, I go” . So Radek went his way and P and me walked to my hotel talking about past few years since we met last time, pre-covid prehistory. I was wondering what of those three historical outcomes I see today hoping for the best of course despite seeing he is far from his previous excellent shape. Very fast I realized that it is what I called pattern just above, all what counted was speed. We were done in 30 minutes, when I was presented familiar story “ my motor is parked in wrong spot, I must go now ”. At least I know now what extremes are and what pattern is in this case . And to spice it up , complain about tip being too low. Tip perhaps was too low for him , for me it was another low moment of this trip. So my day 13 , otherwise very interesting and for first 14 or so hours also unexpectedly romantic ended low. Chalked off to an experience again, went to bed and slept soundly till alarm waked me up at 7.50 am.

You were so helpful and patient with this newbie who didn’t know the ways of Thailand and would certainly have overpaid to get to Pattaya! I had a lot of fun talking boys and gogo bars with you during the ride. My Thai boy was finding our conversation entertaining, he was like listening to shoppers discuss product quality, except he was one of the products on sale. He told me that was a funny point of view to be listening to that sort of chat. He sort of said he assumed that was happening between farangs, but he usually doesn’t get to witness it. This car ride is where the discussion started on something that puzzled me at the time: given the type of guys you like, and given that you much prefer free intermingling with the boys rather than going through the mamasan, I wondered how come you have not been to Brazil, which would be heaven for you (most of the guys are just like you like them, cheaper, no bar fines, no mandatory drink, no mamasan, …) And you reminded me that safety is on the mind of many people, and that Thailand is heaven for those that are so concerned. It is not on my mind for some reason, I feel I know how to handle a mugger (just give him a ‘fake’ wallet with 120 reais and 2 expired credit cards, let him run away and you can quietly continue with your day….) After our conversation, you made me wonder why my own safety concern was so low. Maybe I have been a bit reckless without even knowing that I was. That twink was gorgeous btw. I wish I had 3 months just in silom to sample them all. it was nice to meet you too, @bkkmfj2648!

I did Bangkok Songkran a couple of times. Would I do it again? Very unlikely. As for Pattaya, you couldn't pay me enough money to go near the place. It's a week of Arabs and Indians violently hurling ice buckets at innocent bystanders, even into taxis and baht bus's. The stories I hear are horrific. Why the police don't round them up and deport them baffles me. I will do the 1 day of Songkran in Jomtien, on the 19th. Prior to 2019, it was one, if not "THE" best day of the year. In previous years Jomtien, and the complex itself have been very good at keeping things calm and dry on the run-up to the 19th. I am hoping the influx of half a million Russians don't change that.

That is no guarantee even if I recommended in good faith and with clear conscience guy who I know from many encounters , both massages and long time offs . But there are still things like chemistry or daily mood of ours or boy's which may derail things. I had this before with well rehearsed boy from BBB Inn whom I liked and recommended to one our our members whose experience was very unsatisfactory due to unexpected factor - lack of discretion. Boy unsolicited showed him pictures of some of his customers, apparently nothing compromising but he was put off. Surprising for me too as boy in question never produced such an exhibition to me in our several encounters. Second thing we need to remember that one statistic sample is not a base to formulate hypothesis. Neither excellent nor bad experience can't be treated as sign of things to come. While I sympathize with reader's remarks that bad and nasty reviews will stick with boy or place forever even if undeserved and made in heat of moment I must say that at times they may be fully deserved when boy clearly showed bad will. Fake pictures , unless disclaimed in profile already as such, fully deserve scorn and disclosure. Even worse- cases when boy clearly did not have any intention to keep his side of bargain. Those who read my Jan trip report can recall clear illustration of such behavior on part of guy I called CCP (Cambodian Charming Prince). It happens rarely but it does and we can wax lyrical about human dignity only to certain extend - but if asshole is called asshole no harm done if label sticks to him and warning is issued far and wide as long as it's deserved and explained why. But as always when throwing mud, before doing that we must be 100% sure is deserved. Since often there's doubt is better to exercise discretion in both making bad reviews and acting (or not) upon them. I'm still glad that despite warning from one of my most trusted forum friends years ago I engaged certain M from Senso , one of my best meets ever.

You know nothing about me or my politics other than that I think Ukraine has a right to defend itself. You don't know if I am left, right or center. You, on the other hand, support and make excuses for a Putin dictatorship that is threatening nuclear attack, murdering civilians including women and children, destroying civilian infrastructure, targeting hospitals, nuclear power stations, water and sanitation infrastructure as well as other war crimes. That makes you the murderous Nazi.

Here is a brief report on Belo Horizonte. (Upon re-reading the report below I’ve realized how drunk I was while I wrote it on my flight back to Paris. Lol. Anyway, I hope you enjoy:) I was there for 5 days, stayed at the Hilton Garden Inn. 40k points in total so 8k (about 30 usd) per night, which is a steal. The hotel is in a higher middle class area, 10 minutes walk south of Contorno (ring road), with nice shops and restaurants around. It might not be as commercial as Savassi area, where the Holiday Inn is, but it sufficed for me. By the way, in terms of international hotels, these two are as good as it gets in BH. The touristic interests of BH is limited. The museums around Liberty Circle are surprisingly well appointed. Some buildings of Niemeyer in the center are worth a glimpse. Ouro Preto is cute but seriously over rated. Any city over 200k inhabitants in Europe would a more decent old town. I was just there for a day trop. One mirante, two churches and three museums took me 5 hours. If not for a last minute hookup, I’d be bored to tears there. Personally I don’t consider the mineiros the best looking, nor the most hung of all. They are friendly, with mild demeanor and a laidback attitude. This was especially enjoyable in a non-GP sauna. I visited Tres Chic, and scored 3 guys under an hour. Great facility, clean, functioning, with about 30 clean and free cabines upstairs. There were about 100 guys in that Sunday afternoon. The clientele is mostly next door type aging from 30 to 50, very easy to approach. I picked those 3 that I considered the best looking and most hung, one Northern European, one Latino and one afro. None of them resisted. I almost feared that they were gonna charge me something. No, they were just nice to this lost Asian visitor. The first one cum before me, very apologizing. The second one made me cum without finishing up. The afro synchronized perfectly with me and we remained chatting quite a while after. I sized up lots of guys’ cocks there and most of them rang from 15cm to 18cm. Those 3 I picked were 18, 20, 21cm. There were about 3 very young guys there. Scarily young. One was constantly sitting in a dark corner in from of the glory hole entrance. I suppose that he was waiting for mouthy delicacies. One I really wanted to kiss but he disappeared after I finished my 3rd. I shouldn’t have hesitated. Guys don’t remove their towels, not even in the saunas. You really have to walk to them and size it up yourself. The only complain I have is that cellphones are not allowed inside. And that was the very reason I left after merely 1 hour. I did meet lots of free Grindr guys, about 3 per day. One cute bottom was delicious! He came directly from the gym in front of the hotel. He rode my cock like a champ and cum hands free. The most incredible find was on the second last day, an half afro, one quarter indigenous, one quarter European. We talked on Grindr, met in front of the Sanctuario Sao Jose, and walked in the city park while having long chats about everything and nothing. He came with me to the hotel, stayed with me till my cab ride to the airport. His 24 cm cock was one of the most enjoyable ones I have ever had in my ass. We kept in contact and I’m sure I’ll see him again. I brought him to Olympos. We watched the show there, had some drinks and had some light snacks. The Kibe was really good m. There were about 3 or 4 boys I could have hired, but they all lost their lusters compared to my companion. The boys were friendly without being pushy. They all came to introduce themselves, showed off their merchandise, then left us alone. The asking price was 150 and I’m positively sure they’d accept 100. None of them had a cock over 22 cm, and all of them claimed to be top. I’m not sure I would want to go back to BH but I definitely don’t regret that I went there.

@Home bar charge you 300 baht, but you don't pay a bar fine. So the same as taking a boy home.

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"fusion German -Thai dish" - OMG what is that ???!! German dishes are about combining potatoes and all kind of sausages... who can you fusion this with a Thai soup or curry ? Looks like a horror movie to me !

One evening I arranged to meet a guy who had given me a few massages during the proceeding week. He appeared on time at the designated meeting place (outside the Raya) at midnight. Things generally went well but there were some awkward moments. He slept soundly over night but declined invitation for breakfast. When we parted I was sure that was the beginning and the end of the affair. As I reflected on the evening over breakfast, I was puzzled. We had gotten along really well in his shop, laughing easily and feeling anything but awkward. But he was on his home turf then. I concluded perhaps he had been burned before by a farang he had met. Nevertheless, I tried to put him out of my mind. It was only a few days later when I passed his shop again and he was among the guys standing outside with menus in their hand. He beamed a smile at me and we chatted for less than a minute before we went inside for our third session. Everything went well. His English was almost non-existent at the time so as I was trying unsuccessfully to ask him a question as we walked out later he gestured to a coworker to act as interpreter. "You want to meet me after work tonight" was turned into Thai and the reply was a vigorous nod of his head and huge smile. So as much as I believe Vinapu's prince charming doesn't deserve another chance, I'm reminded that had I denied it to my masseur, I would have missed out on seven of the happiest years of my life. We remain together to this day.