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haha will have to be on an especially horny day,as I tend to agree with your reasoning about 3 too much unless being into orgy

Glad the engineer approves the methodology of the layman ;-) That's true, I don't think availability of massage oils is a problem either, but I didn't want to buy a whole bottle just for this, thinking more like getting a sample from a massage shop after having a massage ;-) that's why (I suppose) TMax let the first guy he picked himself choose the second guy. That way it is virtually guaranteed they get along.

ncie report about the 4 hands, sounds appealing. One wonders what the 6 hands offered by BBB entails....

yes 5 litres is a lot, but that's necessary for a quick results test. I you inflate it only a little bit, there will be hardly any stretching of the material and thus any effect the oil is supposed to have will take a much longer time (i.e. make it rip). So to check if the ripping is actually caused by the oil, one should do a control test with equally inflated (5L) condoms of the same brands and apply water based lube instead. If the control group rips as well, well then the test showing just the rip from the oil is bogus and meaningless. I'd not expext that though, as I imagine a 5L inflated condom without anything applied to it will last forever (so to speak), and applying water or silicone based lubes shouldn't change that (according to conventional wisdom, of course). We shall see. So if these brands are unavainlable to the board engineer, maybe if I get around to it I might try. Though getting a small sample of massage oil might be more difficult than buying the condoms at Watsons LOL.

Did you tell the captains at the massage places you're bottom and got guidance on appropriate boys? Or did you just choose and take your chances? Would you mind PM'ing me the name of the Adonis boy of your second visit? Might try at some opint when in need of a good nail ;-)

interesting and an easy way to test a condom. So I assume z909 will do that test on the non-latex condoms by Okamoto and Sagamai in no time and report back ASAP ;-)

Understood, thanks for info. Goes to show my lack of experience in this sort of venture, do it rather rarely.

oh OK, so you were indeed ahead information wise. Sincere apologies offered and blame retracted ;-)

There are Japanese non-latex condoms available everywhere in Bangkok (Watsons, Boots, etc, even 7/11). Brands are Okamoto and Sagami. @TMax: As for supplying condom& lube yourself at a gay massage parlor, I wonder why? I would expect them to have plenty available at all times.

Quote from http://www.travelgayasia.com/venue/body-club/: November 2012- Report Closed. You guys are investing a lot of time and effort to physically go there and walk around, but are too lazy to do some googling. Tz tz.....

For haircuts I don't have a preference for the gay shops, I just go to a cheap barber shop in Soi Suan Phlu, 80 baht for a well done haircut. Mine is not so difficult and I like it rather short, so not sure how they would do with more complicated, longer- hair hairdos. I have used UP2 many times, though, for their waxing service, which for obvious reasons I want to have done by a guy and preferably in a gay environment. This is for waxing the crotch, which they do very well and very professionally (done by eithe Vee or Eak, both nice and professional guys speaking English (Vee is actually Burmese, who usually speak much better English than Thais for historical reasons) See http://www.uptoyouandsalon.com/team.html for pictures of the team. Cost 400 baht. And if you wonder: by far not as painful as you might think ;-)

Organ I = visceral health Organ II= sexual health Organ I probably looks like this, picture from Dr. Bear's facebook page: I don't like massages in that area that much. Sometimes in normal massages, they massage the stomach area as well, but then it is only for a few minutes. Having an intense and long massage there is clearly not my thing.

Haha you are right about the hunky dentist. A friend of mine had him there some years ago and was flirting with him shamelessly ;-) There are quite many such dentist shops in Bangkok, in fact there is another on also on Soi Saladaeng, about 50m into the street on the right hand side on the corner of Saladaeng Soi 2, the name is something like so-and-so dental clinic, I think. Haven't tried that one, but looks similar to Dr. Smile. Thanks for the explanation. Eberyone has their preferences :-) As for the expenses, when you off LT that's more expensive than massage, but MUCH more time and skin contact, which you're after so I guess the value is still there. On ST offing I see your point.

I see, that's interesting LoveThailand. Kinda expensive too when you're not intending to get off. But each has his own tastes and likes ;-) I guess I'm more in z909's camp then. In fact I kinda like the suspense, if you want to call it that, of what is going to happen at a regular massage place. At the dedicated ones with the minimum tips it is clear what will happen. At the other places it is not. While more often than not, when you show an interest by sporting a nice erection, they will either ask if you want "special" or just go and do it without asking (which I prefer), sometimes they do not. It is the sense of doing a naughty and forbidden thing by getting an erection that in fact tunrs me on most in this situation. Even if is obviously only imagined that it's "forbidden", it's all about fantasy anyway, right hehe? Anyway, just back from Dr. Bear. Small but nice and modern place. Somewhat basic, yet I like the modern minimalist design they have. It looks cool, yet the atmosphere is warm and welcoming. The captain is the fellow pictured on their facebook page, very nice guy, welcoming and a warm smile. They have only 5 massage cubicles separated by curtains, but that's fine. To order your massage you get an order form including the price table posted on the previous page where you cicle your desired treatment. That way you can create your own individual massage course. That is followed by a list of frangrances to choose from for the massage oil (again, just cirlce) and a 5-fold choice of massage pressure: super soft / soft / medium/ strong / super strong. Then 2 images of the human body, front and back, to indicate areas nedding special attention, great idea. I chose a 30 min scrub, followed by 45 minute oil massage (strong), followed by 30 minute Organ II. Really liked the experience. The oil massage was really good, the bulk of the relatively short time of 45 minutes was used on my back, which was either a result of the short time available or my indication of an area on my upper back needing extra attention. Either way, that area did get the attention I had sought. As for the Organ massage, 600 for 30 minutes may seem expensive, but is not even close to a HJ which lasts for just a few minutes and costs 500. Very skilled massaging of balls and penis and area around it. 30 minutes of that is actually quite a long time, but thotoughly enjoyable, needles to say. Good thing I wasn't that horny today, or else I would have cum pretty early on. Instead, today I didn't even cum at all and wasn't even 100% hard the whole time, allowing me to to enjoy the organ assage for what it was, therapeutic more than sexual. As for prices, as I went in the afternoon, the still had their happy hour going (I think until 6pm) which means a 30% discount. So instead of 1290 for my selected 3 treatments (even that is cheap for a total of 1:45h!) I paid only 900. Tipped the masseur 200. Will go back for sure.

a brand new and rather interesting and different massage place has opened about a month a go on Ratchada Soi 3, next to R3 Sauna, specializing in "sexual health .with prostate, testicles and tantric massage". This is interesting, as for some reason male massage places are not offering these services. There is a straight girl massage place in Sukhumvit 22 specializing in prostate massage, one in Silom Soi 6 (named Ben Ten) spezializing in testicles massage, and one more or less gay palce (Spa Bankgok) doing tantric massage. Might try this one today. For info see http://www.travelgayasia.com/venue/dr-bear-massage/ http://www.nickysgaythailand.com/gay-bangkok/dr-bear-massage-rachada-soi-3/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Bear/929208470422964

A minor correction here, vinapu: the dentist both of your are referring to is called "Dr. Smile" and they actually have 2 locationsw - one right on Silom Road between Patpont 1 and 2 (where you went according to your report) and one on Soi Saladaeng (about 100m into the soi on the left hand side) which is I think the one firecat was referring to since he mentioned Saladaeng. As for medical procedures in Thailand, I recently found that getting rid of things on your skin by laser is also super efficient, fast, painless and CHEAP. I had a very small but annoying little bump on my throat which would start bleeding easily if I wasn't careful enough to avoid it while shaving. Went to THANYIA MEDICAL CLINIC on the 4th floor of Thanya Plaza (the smallish shopping mall mostly featuring golf shops on Thanya Road, which connects the top of Surawong with Silom). This is a proper medical facility, not like all those ubiquitous "skin clinics" all over Bangkok, that are of course professional, too, but not medical (I asked but they couldn't do what I wanted). It was done super professionally by a real doctor speaking superb English. No pain whatsoever during and after the procedure, except for the mini sting from injecting a minuscule amount of anesthetic before starting the laser. The cost only 1200 Baht. I went back soon after to have a new super tiny skin outgrowth again on my throat removed, and given the smallness he even reduced the price for me to only 800. Back to topic: I have a question to vinapu: you explained upon being asked in this thread that you don't (and can't lol, same here hehe) get off several times a day and that you simply enjoy massages so much. My question, then, is why don't you go to the "normal" or mixed massage places around Silom more? You get the same massage, typically even cheaper than the gay places that are about sex, no need for big tips though if you are so inclined can easily get a HJ, too (500 for that will do). Masseur will be clothed, of course, so maybe it is groping the nude masseur which is your incentive for the much greater expense? And lastly, thanks for the super detailed reports and interesting insights!

what about their joiner policy? I have read somewhere (admittedly a couple of years ago) that there were issues with bringing a non-guest to the room. The joiner policy is one reason I've been staying at the Tarntawan for ages now whenever I'm in Bangkok. No problems or charge for bringing someone to the room, they only have to leave their ID at the front desk, a security measure. I have tried other hotels, too, but frequently had issues. Don't need that. The location is the same as the Rose Hotel, but the pool of the Rose does look enticing!

I will go to Malang, Solo, Yogya, Borobudur in a couple fo weeks, so then I can report, Fountain ;-) I've been to Angkor, but judging from pictures Borobudur is rather different. I shall see....

Sorry for posting an inappropriate picture earlier. Here is another one, not quite a kiss, but close and quite nice, I think.

Translation: Love deserves respect