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15 minutes ago, roughjock said:
That is good to know. I have never tipped a boy who sat with me, but the only other time they were offed by me anyway, and tipped prior to sitting with me, so perhaps that's why they didn't ask. I did tip the mamasan when I went in to Jupiter knowing who I wanted, but that's because I wanted to be seen favourably by them so I got what I wanted.
I will definitely tip next time.If you are offing the boys who seats with you, then a tip is not needed. But if u are sending him off without an off, after sitting with you for a while, yes, it is customary to tip. 100 baht is enough.
I rarely tip mamasan unless he is helpful. Usually, this means his service leads to me offing a boy, LT. Pushy mamasan gets nothing from me.
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Sounds like u just got cock blocked by jake. Not sure what is your arrangement on his tips, but i recall u said jake's didnt expect any tips, another signs of he wanted more than just a hired guy. Hope you and jake will find a way to make it work hehe.
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Language barrier is always a challenge when it comes to chemistry, but i do find that using key words with thai accent helps them understand better. This works in other countries and languages as well, even when i speak malay in indonesia, if i imitate their accent, itll be easier for them to understand me. Ive observed similar thing in vietnam, japan and korea as well.
One particular incident in vietnam made me realize this. I was ordering an ice tea, from the counter at the cinema, where they sell lipton ice tea in the bottle. After repeating few times in clear standard english, with him not understanding what im saying, i resorted to sign language and pointed to the bottled drink behind him. Immediately he says, ooooo "aih" tea. So afterward, i tried few times imitating their accents, and definitely improves the communication hehe.
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Jupiter have diff pricing for alcoholic drinks? I do know bars do have diff price for cocktails but simple beer should be included in the price no?
Thanks for sharing your experience! It has been a great read! I somehow still very hesitant to off from jupiter. There are plenty of signs from your story that would definitely made me not off the guy. Mamasan saying he is str8 when u want to off him could be one sign too, as there are guys there who wont go with gay customers, or would do absolute minimum if mamasan push them.
That said, i did have few good off from jupiter too. These are those who i know is gay, or had taken from elsewhere before, or simply had good chemistry in the bar before i off them.
My fav bar for hiring muscular guys are tawan and moonlight. Hope u have a chance to visit moonlight too.
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On 3/31/2024 at 8:26 PM, KeepItReal said:
I am very pro-sex workers and pro-science. The problem is that both of those things are often misunderstood (sometimes intentionally). Of particular concern when it comes to both is the new trend of doxy pep / casual use of anti-biotics - especially when I read articles like this.
Similar concerned was raised by my doctor when i asked about doxy-prep. He is against it, especially when it comes to public health issues like antibiotic resistance issue. He went on explaining that within the health ministry, there is a very strict guide on prescribing antibiotics for certain diseases, to ensure risk of developing and spreading of antibiotic resistance strain to be kept at minimum. The way i understands it, they will switch the use of different kind of antibiotic for certain period of times for similar diseases, especially with regards to stds.
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23 hours ago, reader said:
Masseurs and hotel rooms differ slightly: only one category includes human beings asked to perform very intimate services for total strangers.
But feel free not to make that distinction.
If I used this perspective, ill have to pay thai price or lower since its cheaper to hire a guy here in my country...
So i rather see the min tips, or going rate by trusted members as my minimum and add on top based on my satisfaction.
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12 hours ago, reader said:
Well, two ways to look at it that put it in perspective.
(1) Compare your monthly income to that of local Thai Twitter account member.
(2) Consider how much you'd charge to give typical Bangkok tourist a handjob. 🙂
Do you pay your food, hotel and other stuff by this same perspective as well?
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Furama silom has a great luggage room with lock. Ive used it before, leaving my luggage there for few days while i go to chiang mai.
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Any of the full service massage place can be your best bet then. Id stick with vck, arena, prince since u can actually go there and pick the masseurs from a line up, while the mamasan can help u with your specific requests and point out who fits the specs.
Other massage places that has lists of masseurs pics on line apps can be hit or miss in terms of their pics, height, stats, but i guess position usually clearly stated in their stats. I can attest that jeyspa is the one that ive tried and their masseurs pics and stats are quite acceptable. I have no issue with heights though but cant recall if its on display for jeyspa.
6 hours ago, Draden said:That was maybe unnecessarily vague. At the risk of being crude, maybe I can phrase this as an equation ... say I have an extremely strong preference for bottoms in their 20s-early 30s without tattoos (or only lightly tattooed) who are 170CM or less in height. If I were to take four trips to BKK massage parlors looking for full service extras that fit that criteria, what percent could I expect to find something like that would you think?
(Hopefully I threaded the needle correctly between vagueness and graphicness in this one. And hopefully I'm not coming across as some kind of sociopath!)
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2 hours ago, CallMeLee said:
Jake said that in Manila, sometimes the airline will look for the card used to pay for the flight during check-in. And he can be deplaned if he's not able to produce it. Still I can't see the logic . Must be an anti fraud thing
Their gov is known to deny departure for some citizen who they suspect are trying to flee the country and become illegal immigrant elsewhere. I guess two main reason, human trafficking and the cost needed to fly them back home if caught. I suppose human trafficker will pay for their tickets to leave the country under pretense so might be a reason for them to ask to show the cc used. Just a wild guess
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On 2/5/2024 at 12:33 PM, Marc in Calif said:
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Ladies night? This will be interesting.
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Awesome reporting, @vinapu! Enjoyed reading it and this time, i rarely have to wait for the next installment, in fact few times, it was me who lagged behind on my reading.
I would love to join you and @bkkmfj2648 for bangkok trip lol we had fun in pattaya last year and would definitely like to return the favor and bring him around bkk too hehe.
Maybe we can also extend the trip to phuket as well. Last i went there was during high school and it was with family lol
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2 hours ago, Keithambrose said:
£300 to 500. Short time!
Im pretty sure short time there is 1 hour. While in thailand, short time can range from 30min to 2 hour.
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58 minutes ago, Boy69 said:
For Thailand it's outrageous amount about 80 percent of minimum month salary.
What does a highly sought after gay escort in UK makes per hour btw? Thats would be a fairer comparison.
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1 hour ago, macaroni21 said:
Exposure
I think this is what Pattaya's BBB owner has realized and has been pretty much successful to attract both kind of customers, the offing kind and the gawkers.
I see 4 different type of staff hired by BBB, excluding the mamasans/waiters. First is the usual, boys available for off. Second, boys who can be hired but unlikely to be offed, but are there doing majority of the explicit shows. These boys are neither has the model handsome looks, or muscular body, nor young ages, but most if not all does sport big dicks and exotic manly look.
Third are the dancers/ladyboys, mainly for the show, and not for hires. Last is their external hires like breakdance boys, str8, hired only for their skills to attract, gawkers, but at the same time, entertain the offing type customers too.
Jupiter are slowly moving towards this too but they still have their handome and muscular guys doing the shows, though i wouldnt call their shows explicit, although some exposed dicks were visible now, which is a good improvement. Alas, most of their boys a not known for performing well in bed. But during december last year, they have no issues hiring new boys, most of them still fits into Jupiter standards.
Moonlight and Banana are moving exactly as you mentioned, too focused on bringing customers that would not off, aka, come for the show only. Moonlight shows are way too PG, done mostly by their models. They do have some gorgeous boys, and my offed has been mostly from here, but i would not stay for the show. Not anymore. Even the boy i off says similar thing. Banana is even worst i supposed. I enjoyed their shows but they gave practically no airtime for the small group of boys to market themselves. Granted that none of their boys my type, though i did off a guy there before, those who didnt stay too long to watch the ladyboys one after another, wouldve easily missed the boys rotation.
I have no idea about tea money though, but without it, i dont think thailand will have a very vibrant red light district. If all the BIB are str8 as a ruler, enforcing the law and are not corrupt, thailand will be a family vacation place that their tourism minister is dreaming about lol.
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3 hours ago, MaxBKK said:
Local guys on Prep.
Best to assume a limited understanding of the compliance issues involved. Also quite expensive for many local guys. How long can they afford to buy it, do they really take it everyday, are they doing regular testing for HIV and other STDs, and so on.
Most of the one i know on prep are local thai, and they can get it for free from their gov hospital. And yes, they need to be tested regularly to get prep medication refill
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I agree tipping should be agreed by both parties. A repeat usually means both party agrees that the tip given previously is acceptable. Some guys also knows their worth, same way we know whats the general asked.
I have a range that im comfortable with, and it varies a bit depending on how much i like the guy. So if he quoted anything within the range, i rarely haggle. But subsequently, if after the session, i find that its not worth the tip given, i rarely repeat, or only repeat next trip, or once a trip or none at all. In short, unlikely to be my regular.
I am very picky to begin with, so most of the time, the guy i chose already deserved the range im willing to give them. There are few exception here and there but generally, thats the case.
Very rarely, there are guys who fail to deliver, or cut short on the deals. In this case, its always case to case basis. If i dont think ill take him again, ill try to reach agreement with him on the lowest he will take vs the highest ill pay him for the service already rendered. I.e, if agreement was LT until breakfast and he wanted to leave at 3, 4, 5 am, then most of the time, ST tip is generally accepted, given that the session usually start closer to 2am anyway. If i decided to give the guy another chance, I pay him full agreed price. But only if he show the effort to honor the deal next time. Some guys are just to hard to say no to lol.
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49 minutes ago, a-447 said:
Next day I get a request for 3000 baht
For doing nothing, and ditched you two nights in a row?
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I consider myself very picky, but even then, ive had some duds before. But i still consider bars to be the preferred way to get my guy of the night, as i preferred LT, and its the bar that gives me higher rate of willing guys.
Many masseurs arent even willing to meet outside their workplace, even less that are willing to take LT after whole day working at the center. Though i blame myself too as i rarely make effort to take them off site as i like the massage table better when getting massage. Plus considering they can get more per hour in the center, especially if they are popular, its hard to motivate them to be with you LT, unless you are willing to be more generous.
I wouldnt bank on straight top guy to bottom for you either. Very unlikely itll lead to a satisfaction ending.