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Yeah i recalled there were two bars called red dragon before, in the very beginning of patpong becoming gay bars street. I cant recall which ones i was sitting before, and this was pre-covid. Post covid, i never saw any female bar tender anymore lol

Even when u slept alone at night, u already had some fun during the day, which for most of us, its either or situation lol. If i had full service massage during the day, i want to sleep alone that night lol

That road used to be predominantly str8 bars during soi twilight era. Even red dragon bar was manned by lady bartender if im not mistaken.

I did searched that and it seems i already have that account. Thanks

Do u know the line account to add?

Is there a line or websites? Google only brings up old stuff.

I tend to be more relax with tipping. Just one simple rule, if i like the guy and want to see him again, ill tip. This apply to very helpful mamasan, cute waiter, cute singer, cute barker outside, cute bartender, well u get the idea. Tipping for me is to indicate i appreciate and like them, for whatever service they provided me. I dont tip rude and or pushy mamasan, guys im not interested in, guys who sits near me uninvited and not my type, waiter just for doing their job i.e brings my order and nothing else etc. I dont drink, so i rarely in position to open a bottle, but on one occassion, i did, won a bottle at a lucky draw during one of the bar anniversary, and i tip the waiter and mamasan who had been serving our table, drinking shots and chatting and having fun with us. I didnt call boys since im already with two boys from other place. Those two boys, i also tipped them afterward for joining me for the bar visit, though one of them refuse my tips, since he isnt a money boy. But even then, i did tipped him extra the next day i met him at his work. As for how much, this also correlate with how much i like the guy and how much likely ill be seeing the guy again, of course within reason aka, what the agreed tip + some. This also depends on my mood too, which usually due to the service i received but sometimes due to external factors too. There is one time i actually just called guys from jupiter to sit with me, order drinks for him and clearly told him im not taking him. I did this with 3 guys in a row, just to see how they are reacting. Its a fun experiment, and out of the 3, 2 actually stays with me and enjoy my company, while one obviously couldnt wait to be away from me, probably to get to a diff customer who will off him. I dont blame him, but somehow mamasan saw this and scold him and ask him to stay sit with me, at least until his drink is finished. In this scenario, i didnt tip him, but tip the mamasan instead. The other two boys did get tips from me. The last one actually gets higher tip as there was touchy feely happening lol

Even if u already have your hep-a/b vaccine before, it is worth to check if a boost is needed. Plus the vaccine is cheap, unlike the hpv vaccine.

What did i miss?

I thought the guy in the middle is the vers, left is top, right is bottom lol

Pre-covid, they do charge 1000 baht for boys who didnt turn up in bar during christmas-new year week. I take it that the off fee during that time is also 1000 baht.

I presume this guy's minimum tips is 1.5k? Plus shop fee, u definitely got a good deal!

Have always wondered how is the inside of this bar looks like. Lets hope that a new gay bar will be taking over this place!

There is also a newish massage place there called s'sense massage, opened a year or two prior to covid. Based in their line, it is still open. I went there twice pre-covid and enjoyed the session there.

Furama is great value, especially the one tier up, deluxe room if im not mistaken. You will get higher rooms with better view, fully renovated and larger bathroom for very minor extra rate.

If u still want to see live people fucking, sauna is currently your best bet. O party will usually have models who will fuck each other or fuck with other sauna goer. Of course, u yourself can join in as well, but u would have to be naked.

I guess back then, sex with minor is legal?

At the very least, ST ends after you cum. But yes, in thailand, the duration seems to vary. Though, if we use massage as the comparison, one hour massage + HJ can be had for 1000-1500 baht and 2k-2.5k for full service, so at 2.5k baht (tip and off fee) its reasonable to have at least 1 hour for ST. Anything longer will result in a repeat or better tips from me, given that both had a good time, or at least he pretend to. However, I always prefer LT, and during my last visit, I actually insist on this pretty much with most of my encounter, except for 1 or 2. For LT, I prefer it to end with breakfast together. If they left early, no repeat. If they left super early, i would probably told them id be paying ST, but so far that didnt happen yet. Earliest i think was around 5am, and longest was around 3pm, since we had lunch together. In your case, less than an hour and u didnt came, definitely shortchanged.

Glad u told mamasan. Its a recipe for disaster for the bars if their boys wont deliver what has been promised. Some would even ask for an off fee refund.

My top choices of shows are actually Hotmale, Jupiter, Tawan, Moonlight, Freshboy, Dreamboy. Hotmale get top choices for the absence of drags of any kind, and each number are done by their regular guys, all can be offed, and limited to 2-3 guys per shows. This allow me to really see their sexy guys throughout the stay. Their costumes also quite revealing with nudity in most of the shows. Same can be said for Tawan but their guys lack showmanship thus Jupiter gets the Runner up. Plus, Jupiter up the ante with some models showing exposed penis, and their drags number always has 3-4 of their sexiest hunks dancing as well. Moonlight, while their shows are very well choreographed, has now chosen that the shows done only by their models, and it has become too cabaret and not sexy anymore. Nothing revealing and no nudity throughout. Freshboys and dreamboys gets the bottom places because their boys are not my type, and dreamboys gets further deduction for being too loud, especially if you sit near the stage.

On my last trip, i booked first 5 days and last 3 days of my stay pre-departure. But the inbetween was left empty without bookings so i have flexibility with my pattaya sidetrip. I have not much issue booking hotels last minute in pattaya, but i am glad that i booked my last 3 days in bangkok early, as a friend didnt and he has so much trouble finding one, he had to stay in hostel lol

Good thing is, other than tawan or arena, the other 3 places does publish their line up in their line accounts. So u can do your research well before u are there.

For massage and sex, beefier guys are in places like arena, vck, jeyspa, sabaidee. There are beefy muscular guys in other massage places here and there, maybe one or two but the 4 i mentioned above seems to be carrying more guys like what u want

They can get wilds in homepa, sauna, etc. Closed door but not limited to in hotel room definitely.

Naturally, gay is unnatural. Men should like women and vice versa. 🙃