The disgusting escort market in Morocco

[davet]

On 8/1/2020 at 12:14 PM, Latbear4blk said:

No shower, no place to take a bath.

A boy I met on the train invited me to stay with his family in the medina of Fez. They apologized for not having hot water (it was August in Marrakesh, for X's sake) and their shower was a spigot right over the squat toilet. One would stand in flip-flops on the foot placements and the water went right down the toilet, giving it an extra clean out too, I suppose.

I forgot about the soldier I met while we waited hours for a transfer in an Algerian desert town. He looked like John Kennedy Jr. How I regret not taking up his invitation to his family home in Algiers. 

[Latbear4blk]

 

4 hours ago, davet said:

A boy I met on the train invited me to stay with his family in the medina of Fez. They apologized for not having hot water (it was August in Marrakesh, for X's sake) and their shower was a spigot right over the squat toilet. One would stand in flip-flops on the foot placements and the water went right down the toilet, giving it an extra clean out too, I suppose.

I forgot about the soldier I met while we waited hours for a transfer in an Algerian desert town. He looked like John Kennedy Jr. How I regret not taking up his invitation to his family home in Algiers. 

You remind me of a similar experience! This was 1993, and I am known for having very bad memory, so I do not recall most details. I do remember the train was full and overcrowded. My friends and I were hanging out in between cars, and this boy saying he was 19 but looking like 15. We had no sexual interaction at all, but he was extremely insisting about visiting his home and staying to have diner and overnight. We did not dare to accept, despite his sometimes uncomfortable insistence. 

Like you, I also regret not taking his offer.

[Jeff88]

I have been to both Morocco and Tunisia -- Tunisia is still a paradise, far better. Your best cruising option is to rent a car (cheap there), and drive to Sidi bou Said -- beach town about 30 minutes from Tunis and more upscale. Lots of nightlife. Lots of hot guys to pick up for a ride. Far nicer a place to stay than Tunis, and so close by. 

 

[bmarr2000]

On 9/6/2020 at 4:45 PM, davet said:

In the 90s, I played around some with guys in the Middle East and North Africa. Now that I'm older and craftier, I realize I could have had so much more sex. 

Very hot stories, thanks for sharing!

[seesaw]

On 4/22/2017 at 12:17 AM, endlessdream said:

they just grab and run. 

What a disgusting way of doing business, haven't been to morocco but had an experience with Arabs for free, Thanks god that I taste the good arabs.

[pchris5]

good to know u were safe

[xcorpse]

was there last year and met a really hot Moroccan guy in Rabat. It's a hit and miss here. Can't wait to come back. 

[amanchris]

Always thought it would be to dangerous to meet guys in Morocco

[speedoo1]

One needs to be careful of course; more careful than in Europe or USA but besides from that it should work out fine - no first hand experience with Moroccan guys though,  despite having been to Marrakech once.

Edited January 13, 2021 by Speedo1

[cu-rio-us]

I perfectly agree. One just can't be too careful in Marrakech.

[PSS]

On 4/21/2017 at 6:17 PM, endlessdream said:

Sorry for being so judgmental in the topic, but it is how I feel about the escort situation here in Morocco. 

 

Escorts are everywhere and I have nothing against them. In fact, I love them, as long as they are honest about what they do, have a sense of service and be more or less fair. They are not here!

 

The economy in Moroco is bad, so bad that few young guys have a real job and those who do make barely their rent. With the typical Arab horniness and their welcoming nature on one side, and the affluent tourists from Europe and Middle east, it could have developed a healthy and booming escort market. But unfortunately, it hasn't the been the case. The main problem is the lacking of work ethic in the whole region. 

 

I can't help comparing the situation to Cuba. Moroccans are as hot as Cubans, equally open to homosexual sex, but far less educated and ethical. Something good which came out of the communist years of Cuba is people understand in order to get something, they need to deliver something in return. Here in Morocco, they just grab and run. 

 

Which made things worse is the illegal immigration from the neighboring black African countries. Desperate situations made lots of them rotten.

 

Several points can illustrate the issue here:

 

First, Morocco is a muslim country. The escorts here somehow made this their avantage. Most of them are miserable and have nothing to loose, so they are not afraid of making a scene, especially the foreign black guys from Mali, Niger, etc. 

I met a young Moroccan cardiological doctor in Marrakech, who told me that two weeks earlier, he was obliged to pay 2000 dh (200 euros) to a disguised black escort when he refused to leave.

 

Second, they never say they are escorts. Actually most of them deny that when you ask. You really need to be vigilant and dig really hard to get the truth. They have ambiguous way of answering your questions, such as:

- I'm not escort. (But I still want some money for cab, and I paid 100 times more than normal because I was in such a hurry to get to you)

- I just want to have fun. (But you have to pay)

- Dont be silly, not everyone's escort. (But I am)

...

When you try to let them answer just 'yes' or 'no' to a very specific question such as 'Are you going to ask me for money?', they would become silent, maybe for a day. Then they will come back talking to you as nothing had happened, until you ask them specifically again.

 

Third, they lie about everything, they send fake photos, and they don't perform sexually. Again, if I take some examples of how they answer your questions: 

- They are my photos. (But they are not of me, but of a 'friend')

- I'm always hard. (As hard as I can get, while you keep on sucking me)

- My cock measures 25 cm. (Seriously you believe that? How fool)

 

Just to resume, the escort market here is sick and disgusting. And it spoils the normal fun market, too. When people don't have any ethical bottom line, anything can happen. I personally would not recommend Morocco to those who want to meet local boys for fun. 

I have to agree. Unfortunately.

[abelard86]

Woah, thanks for the heads up!

[traveller312]

i agree about being careful, and the black escort guys on Grindr whilst are damn hot, will cause you problems after the fun with wanting much more money than was agreed, threatening behaviour is pretty common until you pay up

[davet]

On 9/6/2020 at 1:38 PM, Latbear4blk said:

 

You remind me of a similar experience! This was 1993, and I am known for having very bad memory, so I do not recall most details. I do remember the train was full and overcrowded. My friends and I were hanging out in between cars, and this boy saying he was 19 but looking like 15. We had no sexual interaction at all, but he was extremely insisting about visiting his home and staying to have diner and overnight. We did not dare to accept, despite his sometimes uncomfortable insistence. 

Like you, I also regret not taking his offer.

I did take up the offer from the boy on the train. To tell the truth, I closed my eyes in his house that night half-wondering whether I'd wake up alive. When I did, however, all my fear was gone, and I enjoyed 3 days being welcomed by his family and friends and getting to see how working class Fassis (people from Fez) lived. They were nice, good-looking guys only a few years younger than I was, but I wasn't on that wavelength with them and there was no hanky panky.

Morocco tested my ability to assess human nature with every single person I met. The good were very good, the bad pretty bad. Looking back, I realize that the shamsters were not hard to spot (they're not good liars and cannot disguise their pushiness) and the hustlers (which means commission grabbers in this context) wouldn't have ripped me off that much. It sounds wise for you to have resisted your boy on the train - he was way too pushy, too fast. I assessed the guy I met for hours while we were on the train. I explicitly asked him if I would have to pay. He looked mildly offended but gave me a clear no. It seemed the unspoken rule was the hustlers and shysters would not directly break their word, so you have to ask bluntly. 

[davet]

Maybe the shutdown of Brazil and Spain is causing memories of my prior prowling grounds to flood back ...

In one of the Moroccan beach towns, a guy stood atop a sand dune and waved his dick at me. Right out in the open. He was about 50-75 feet away, and there must have been scores, including children and burqa'd women, who could have seen him had they paid attention. Not my type, but I couldn't help but glare right back, slack-jawed, as the situation was so outrageous. THAT was straight out of Cadinot.

In another beach town, I tangled with two construction workers in the bushes next to their site. They lost interest when I wouldn't let them bugger me. As I said, the thrill of the chase usually exceeded that of any capture.

[Lonely_John]

There should be a club with specific tips, tricks, and rules to follow when visiting Morocco.

For what I've read in other threads it sounds like Morocco is safer than Egypt and other Muslim countries.

[Latbear4blk]

45 minutes ago, Lonely_John said:

There should be a club with specific tips, tricks, and rules to follow when visiting Morocco.

For what I've read in other threads it sounds like Morocco is safer than Egypt and other Muslim countries.

30 years ago it was. A monarchy very European friendly and moderately Islamic.  There were big contrasts between cities like Tetouan or Marrakesh, very traditional looking and with women absolutely and evidently oppressed, next to other cities like Tanger or Casablanca, with a much more European feeling, and even local women dressing as their Westerner sisters.

[davet]

There were also rumors that one of the Moroccan royals was gay. But that could often result in harsher repression, in the "methinks he doth protest too much" fashion.

By far the most liberal place in North Africa was Tunis, where women in miniskirts were out and about even 30 years ago when I was there. But the entire region was a don't ask don't tell culture. If you are discreet, you can find much action under the surface.

[Guest]

Pursuing outlawed gay sex in a Muslim country w harsh penalties, foreigner or not - does not sound like a good time to me.  I guess I can kind of understand the thrill & chase of something forbidden, but seriously….why put yourself at so much risk when there are so many countries that welcome gay sex tourism ? Or, at least it’s not illegal and you won’t be arrested.

This reminds me of the tourists that visit North Korea, Iran & similar - shocked when they are arrested, jailed and US can’t do much to help.  Really -this is American (usually white) privilege & ignorance on full display. 

[Latbear4blk]

3 hours ago, Slvkguy said:

Pursuing outlawed gay sex in a Muslim country w harsh penalties, foreigner or not - does not sound like a good time to me.  I guess I can kind of understand the thrill & chase of something forbidden, but seriously….why put yourself at so much risk when there are so many countries that welcome gay sex tourism ? Or, at least it’s not illegal and you won’t be arrested.

This reminds me of the tourists that visit North Korea, Iran & similar - shocked when they are arrested, jailed and US can’t do much to help.  Really -this is American (usually white) privilege & ignorance on full display. 

I agree. I would lobe to say that I fully agree, but your remark about "Muslim countries w harsh penalties" makes me uncomfortable. Whether or not a country is Muslim, if homosexuality is being actively persecuted and prosecuted, I would keep myself away from it.

I took risks when I visited Morocco, but I was younger and omnipotent, I had a crush on the Beatnik poets, and back in the 90s it was still very European influenced and tolerant. I do not think I would go over there nowadays.

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said:

 

49 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said:

I agree. I would lobe to say that I fully agree, but your remark about "Muslim countries w harsh penalties" makes me uncomfortable. Whether or not a country is Muslim, if homosexuality is being actively persecuted and prosecuted, I would keep myself away from it.

I took risks when I visited Morocco, but I was younger and omnipotent, I had a crush on the Beatnik poets, and back in the 90s it was still very European influenced and tolerant. I do not think I would go over there nowadays.

I could have phrased it better for sure  - the discussion was Morocco & Egypt….but correct, there are non-Muslim countries where gays sex is illegal w harsh penalties.  Thanks for pointing that out.  

[Alex_Berl]

On 4/15/2021 at 5:46 AM, traveller312 said:

i agree about being careful, and the black escort guys on Grindr whilst are damn hot, will cause you problems after the fun with wanting much more money than was agreed, threatening behaviour is pretty common until you pay up

Would you share your grindr-experiences in Morocco ?

[Latbear4blk]

On 6/18/2021 at 3:28 PM, Guest said:

 

I could have phrased it better for sure  - the discussion was Morocco & Egypt….but correct, there are non-Muslim countries where gays sex is illegal w harsh penalties.  Thanks for pointing that out.  

Oh wow, I think I never saw this post. Otherwise, I would have point you to check all the majority Christian countries in Subsaharian Africa. South Africa is a gay friendly island in an Ocean of Christian inspired and supported homophobia.