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On 8/26/2022 at 4:10 AM, Mavica said:

Please don't troll this individual because you don't like buffed bodies, big dicks, etc

Interesting word choice. Trolls: typically new members with no real contributions & who are looking to cause disruption. Weird, right ?  But, please continue….

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On 8/26/2022 at 4:10 AM, Mavica said:

Please don't troll this individual because you don't like buffed bodies, big dicks, etc

another “new” member w very strong opinions & no reading/comprehension skills

 

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2 minutes ago, endlessdream said:

Please. Just calm down. Don’t you guys feel silly cat fighting like this?

wouldn’t it be easier to not be a dipshit ??  problem solved 

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1 hour ago, Vanbcanthony said:

I didn't realize the OP was a fellow Chinese tourist. What was it like for an Asian in Brazil? Even though they say everyone can be Brazilian, I believe Asians are still the minority there. 

São Paulo has the largest Japanese population outside of the country; thus there is a Japantown.  [...visited a few years back but did not see a lot of Asians in Rio as well as in São Paulo in spite of what I wrote in the preceding sentence.]

...went to two Japanese restaurants that were in my favorite city of Rio de Janeiro though.

[There is a member here who is of Asian descent; I can't remember his name, but apparently he's fared very, very well in Brazil based on his previous reports during the past two+ years.  I always loved the way he wrote as well as what he reported.]

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15 minutes ago, Axiom2020 said:

São Paulo has the largest Japanese population outside of the country; thus there is a Japantown.  [...visited a few years back but did not see a lot of Asians in Rio as well as in São Paulo in spite of what I wrote in the preceding sentence.]

...went to two Japanese restaurants that were in my favorite city of Rio de Janeiro though.

[There is a member here who is of Asian descent; I can't remember his name, but apparently he's fared very, very well in Brazil based on his previous reports during the past two+ years.  I always loved the way he wrote as well as what he reported.]

I believe you were referring to the "infamous" Numazu. haha.

But I'm not very tall or gorgeous, and neither do I have the amount of coins to spare like he does. lol. So I'm getting kinda anxious about my upcoming trip in early November.  

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On 6/18/2022 at 6:37 AM, Slvkguy said:

I had the complete opposite impression of SP and it was my first time visit recently too.  
Perhaps because I hired a professional guide and explored the entire city for several days - not just typical tourist areas of Jardins, Paulista & Republica.  If you go to Moema, Itaim Bibi  Lapa, Brooklin, Ibirapuera, Pinheiros as examples, it would be a different perspective.  Lapa looked like a lush tropical residential street in Beverly Hills.  Pinheiros reminded me of the coolest parts of LA near Silverlake.  I found São Paulo to be very sophisticated with Avenida Paulista one of the worlds grand iconic boulevards.

Similarly, I wouldn’t compare SP to a third tier European citiy as its South America’s financial & business capital with all the wealth & sophistication that entails.  It reminds a bit of Los Angeles in the sense that most visitors there fail to grasp what makes LA so great & interesting because none of its charms are obvious. You either have to know someone to show you, or live there for years to figure it out.  SP is the same - with its vast geography and  few obvious tourists sites it takes some effort to uncover, but the treasures are there.  30 million people live in the SP metropolitan area - of course they have the best of everything if you look for it.  Btw - I lived in Manhattan for 10 years, so I have a point of comparison.  The SP subway is so much better than NYC too - it’s not even a discussion. GRU made JFK look like a dump.

Pro tip - if staying at a 5 star hotel, have them send a car & driver to pick you up. It took 30 minutes max from GRU to Jardins.   It was about $65. in a new Mercedes’ and the driver met me after customs. Same thing on the return. 

Of course - we all have different tastes. I find many European capitals to be overly gentrified and rather homogeneous, borderline boring.  São Paulo is the only city I’ve visited that compares with the dynamic melting pot of immigrants and cultures that makes NYC so electric and interesting.  SP felt like parts of a NYC before gentrification.  As I was leaving my hotel in SP for the airport, in came a motorcade with police, flashing lights & dozens of security - a parade of Brazilian celebrities followed and then the Vice President of Brazil w entourage.  Anything but boring.

I’d go back tomorrow - it’s my favorite city in the world by far.
 

I appreciated your post, for you shared your experience from a non judgmental, biased viewpoint.

 Although it's been over a decade since I was in Brazil, it's my favorite country: Rio is my favorite city.  São Paulo was way too large for me although I had a guide each time during my three or four visits.   

I have been in the country (all over) 11xs from 2002 to 2011 and do hope to return in 2024 if my health is rather solid.

Muito obrigado- 

Muito obrigado for your posting.

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51 minutes ago, Vanbcanthony said:

But I'm not very tall or gorgeous, and neither do I have the amount of coins to spare like he does. lol. So I'm getting kinda anxious about my upcoming trip in early November.  

the Brazilians accept everyone as they are - almost without question….one of the many charms of the country & its people.  Have fun - take high quality condoms and your own lube ;)

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1 hour ago, Slvkguy said:

the Brazilians accept everyone as they are - almost without question….one of the many charms of the country & its people.  Have fun - take high quality condoms and your own lube ;)

I find that kinda paradoxical or philosophically challenging to understand because Brazilians at the same time are obsessed with plastic surgeries, cosmetics, and the general upkeep of personal appearance. How do they reconcile these two conflicting things?

I don't think I will be able to walk and am afraid I might have to go to an emergency room.    

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2 hours ago, Axiom2020 said:

I appreciated your post, for you shared your experience from a non judgmental, biased viewpoint.

 Although it's been over a decade since I was in Brazil, it's my favorite country: Rio is my favorite city.  São Paulo was way too large for me although I had a guide each time during my three or four visits.   

I have been in the country (all over) 11xs from 2002 to 2011 and do hope to return in 2024 if my health is rather solid.

Muito obrigado- 

Muito obrigado for your posting.

I prefer SP over Rio. Yes, SP is a very big city, but that just give you a big variety of things to do, or to choose from.

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5 hours ago, Vanbcanthony said:

I didn't realize the OP was a fellow Chinese tourist. What was it like for an Asian in Brazil? Even though they say everyone can be Brazilian, I believe Asians are still the minority there. 

 

São Paulo has a large group of people from Japanese, Chinese and Korean origins. You will not look totally foreigner (as I did in a small town in China :) ).

Regarding encounters, we say in Portuguese that every pan has its cover, so you will probably find guys that are very into Asians. The GPs are always very into your money and if you threat them well (being polite, etc) they will do the same for you.

If it is your first time in São Paulo I would suggest you to stay in Paulista/Jardins area. Near the saunas, museums, restaurants and safer than Centro/Republica.

 

I hope you have a great trip!

 

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3 hours ago, lopesv2 said:

 

São Paulo has a large group of people from Japanese, Chinese and Korean origins. You will not look totally foreigner (as I did in a small town in China :) ).

Regarding encounters, we say in Portuguese that every pan has its cover, so you will probably find guys that are very into Asians. The GPs are always very into your money and if you threat them well (being polite, etc) they will do the same for you.

If it is your first time in São Paulo I would suggest you to stay in Paulista/Jardins area. Near the saunas, museums, restaurants and safer than Centro/Republica.

 

I hope you have a great trip!

 

Muito obrigado! Bem util. I'm practicing my Portuguese every day, so hopefully posso fazer amigos no Brasil. Every one I have talked to, especially the ones from Sao Paulo recommends Paulista or Jardin for first-timer. Several baianos highly recommend Salvador. Maybe that's too advanced for a newbie like me. 

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5 hours ago, Vanbcanthony said:

I find that kinda paradoxical or philosophically challenging to understand because Brazilians at the same time are obsessed with plastic surgeries, cosmetics, and the general upkeep of personal appearance. How do they reconcile these two conflicting things?

You are correct  - that’s part of their Brazilian magic, they don’t reconcile things.  If you’re talking about Brazilian saunas or garotos in general, you will see every age, body type and ethnicity welcomed.  It’s about the money first & foremost - but most of them won’t make you feel that way. 
on my first trip to Brazil about 20 years ago - I had trouble reconciling all of the reports about Rio being so dangerous, yet Condé Nast Traveler had ranked Rio the friendliest city in the world.  It just didn’t make sense to me then. After that first trip, I understood that both things could be true, although would seem to contradict. There are many other parts of Brazilian culture/society that would similarly seem difficult to reconcile, yet those contradictions exist. 
Lots of people in Brazil focused on physical body perfection - you’ll also see a different level of body positivity on the beach that you’d never see in the US. 

Have fun & enjoy 

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6 hours ago, scott456 said:

I prefer SP over Rio

Me too 100%.....I'm not a beachgoer and the restaurants are better in SP. Most of the guys in Rio seem to live at least an hr away while in SP many stay in Republica or close by, which makes visits to me easier....

9 hours ago, Vanbcanthony said:

I believe you were referring to the "infamous" Numazu. haha.

But I'm not very tall or gorgeous, and neither do I have the amount of coins to spare like he does.

He's not tall and he self admits to having a Generic Asian Face, he kills me,😝......and I'm not sure anyone has the spare coins like he does 😉

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On 9/1/2022 at 1:52 AM, Vanbcanthony said:

Muito obrigado! Bem util. I'm practicing my Portuguese every day, so hopefully posso fazer amigos no Brasil. Every one I have talked to, especially the ones from Sao Paulo recommends Paulista or Jardin for first-timer. Several baianos highly recommend Salvador. Maybe that's too advanced for a newbie like me. 

Quando chegar no Brasil vai estar fluente :)

Salvador is a very touristic city. A different vibe from São Paulo... 

But for Saunas and GPs I am not sure which one would be better.

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On 9/2/2022 at 3:17 PM, lopesv2 said:

Quando chegar no Brasil vai estar fluente :)

Salvador is a very touristic city. A different vibe from São Paulo... 

But for Saunas and GPs I am not sure which one would be better.

Espero que sim!

I believe Bahia has more African influence, so I'm a little worried about how my small bum will fare there. We shall see. lol

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Enjoyed a couple of visits to Hothouse, a new late-night bar, in the Republic area during my September visit to SP. The venue has a bar, stage and large dark room. As well as a constant strip show, the venue last full interactive sex shows on Friday and Saturday nights featuring local porno stars. There was also a 'boy of the house' on offer.  He went from table to table offering his dick to be sucked for free on the spot by clients.  

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Sucking dick for free on the spot. Good times. 

You pay a cover. It’s free in the dark alley behind the club. 

You are essentially darting your tongue deep into the poxy saliva remnants of every other punter in the place. We call this ‘clap threading’, appropriated from threading the ball in soccer/football.

Or you can try to manoeuvre the sucking around the spot, or check that it’s crusted over; just the same … later attend the Free Clinic. 

But if it’s Lipe or João, who gives a lick?! 

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1 hour ago, Riobard said:

Sucking dick for free on the spot. Good times. 

You pay a cover. It’s free in the dark alley behind the club. 

You are essentially darting your tongue deep into the poxy saliva remnants of every other punter in the place. We call this ‘clap threading’, appropriated from threading the ball in soccer/football.

Or you can try to manoeuvre the sucking around the spot, or check that it’s crusted over; just the same … later attend the Free Clinic. 

But if it’s Lipe or João, who gives a lick?! 

Remember, all the Paraná river region is Yerba Mate kingdom. Sharing saliva while sharing bombillas is mainstream. 

 

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