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i second the recommendation that Cartegena is worth 3 days max unless you want to venture to beaches outside. Loved Medellin for it's people and all the little towns surrounding it. Highly recommend a prolonged coffee farm trip if you like coffee. Jardin and Jericho is amazing, and stay overnight or more. Don't miss Andres de carne outside Bogota for the wackiest decor but decent food. Fun night.
Would be interested to hear how things are without Uber...i couldn't imagine my trip without it..the safety and peace of mind it brought.

not locally but when he goes to NYC a couple times a year he is!

Great chart thank you. Is there a best time to go? For some reason I'm remembering 5-6pm?

Hello everybody, here is my first-timer experience
This is MY experience. I will be happy to answer any questions of those who are like me - firstimers. I'm not going to argue about my possible mistakes with pro visitors to Brazil, I don't want this post to become another exercise in insulting each other. Sorry for these words, but I think an ambience here is very nasty, although I did find very precious information here. 
I'll compare some points with Thailand, as I was there 50+ times and I think it will be useful for those who visited Thailand
And sorry for mistakes in my English
So
I've stayed 15 days there and I visited Club 117 everyday except two Mondays
I am into bodybuilders. So I took only muscle guys. 
For those who remember golden days of Tawan - guys in Club 117 are smaller! I haven't met really big bodybuilders. Syntol muscles, big upper bodies with small legs - yes, very nice physic and fitness class guys - yes, but only two young competitive bodybuilders, which are not so big as I wish
But the faces and bodies of 117's guys are so nice that I'm not disappointed 
So I'm talking about muscle guys here
I was always asked (and always gave without bargaining) 150 R$, including instagram superstars with tens of thousands of subscribers, agogo dancers and the biggest guys in the club
I think there an explanation to this fact (some members quoted higher prices)
On the very first day I showed to one guy pictures of my ex who is heavyweight competitive bodybuilder. The rumor spread very quickly and muscle guys approached me saying 'I know, I'm not big for you, but you can try me' and didn't ask much.
I liked some guys there for talking, sitting together. When they asked me, I bought drinks and food for them. Then these guys started to send to me all new muscle guys that I had not had yet. They told them my price (150) and it always was OK with them. I was extremely excited when muscled beauties approached me and the guys told them - what are you waiting for, undress (if he just came), show your muscle, may be he'll take you
On the very first night I asked one guy, who speaks English well, to take me to Lapa for fun. I felt a kind of chemistry between us, although he is absolutely not attractive for  me sexually
He turned out to be one of the smartest man that I ever met. We talk with him about everything, starting from big bang and graham's number to Austro-Hungarian Empire and brazilian coffee-with-milk politics in Brazil. That night he slept in my appartment and the next morning he said - we are friends, no more money.
So almost everyday he stayed with me and slept in my appartment and I never paid him money. Once he asked 300 to pay electricity bill and I gave him, sometimes I gave him 50 for taxi to comeback home.
On the second day my phone was stolen. This guy gave me his phone and I used it for four days before he helped me to buy a new phone.
When he took me to a disco that I didn't like, he paid himself for that disco. Sometimes he insisted to pay for food himself. He bought some gifts for me when I was returning home
Believe me or not, but this is true
So, I can't say what is the price for a long stay, although one bodybuilder told me that R$ 1500 for one day is extremely good price and I think it can be lowered down to 600-800R$
I took some guys to my appartment - from 7 pm to midnight it was 300-350 R$
 
Entance to the club - 60
Room - 40
Caipirinha - 15, smirnoff ,tequila, - 15-20-30
Espresso, water - 6
Food I think 20-30, I don't remember
The guys that I talked to told me they usually get R$ 200 from clients (muscle guys)
 
Some advices
1. It is not like in Thailand. In Thailand in a go go if you come at the right time you can see almost all the guys (except those who are taken or have a day off). In Brazil you never know who you meet that day
2. In Brazil you pay for 40 minutes. When you finish, a guy usually comes back to work. In Thailand you pay for a short time, you can talk to a guy while you are going to your hotel, you may offer a dinner together and so on. It's not the case here. If you want that, you should talk about longer stay
3. English is almost non-existent. To my suprise, in Thailand the situation is much better. That makes a longer stay much more difficult. 
4. I stayed in Gloria area, 2 minutes walk from the Club 117. It is very convenient. I saved a lot of money because I stayed in Gloria area. If you want take a guy home - it's easy for him, the price is lower. Prices for food and restaurants are lower. For example, fresh juice in my area is R$ 5, copacabana - R$9-11. I ate in a good restaurant for R$ 30-50, Ipanema - R$ 90+ for the same food. Of course, if you like beach, it's a long ride by metro, but there is Flamengo beach nearby
5. Do plan your stay! Indeed, when it's a quiet day in the club, it can be a big dissapointment. During my stay it was wednesdays and sundays. You can expect more guys starting from 6-7 pm.
6. When the club was closed (Monday) I visited Lion's and Point 202 on the same evening. It was a disaster. Lion's was deserted at 7.30, Point was busy, but no muscles at all. So for the next Monday I took a guy for an evening stay with me.
7. I didn't find the way to have a man from the beach. Although I saw some good guys, I do not know how to approach them
7. Brazil is not a holiday destination. In Thailand you can find millions ways to have fun. It's secure. In Brazil I have no idea how I would spend a time with a guy. After visiting a couple of tourist attractions there is only one thing  - the beach. In Thailand you may visit huge shopping malls, nice restaurants, take a ride to islands, gardens, markets, aquariums, discos... - endless list. 
8. I have already bought a ticket to Brazil for the next trip. It is really nice country and above all - Brazilians! I really loved them
 

That should work for me...thought I read in your review that he was a bit distant and mechanical about it...will give him a shout as time gets closer

I will see him this Saturday. But I have bad news for you. He is retired and you will not be able to contact him. Even if you have his old number, he has a new one now.

Medellin is a lovely city and I would really enjoy to spend some months of my life there. 
However as many members already said in here, fun may be not that easy to arrange. While in Bogota I received dozens of messages by Grindr, in Medellin O received very few... really don’t know the reason. 
The cam model that I have previously met was not available since he is a university student, and he was having some very important tests... he proposed to meet me on a Sunday , but I was in a tour , so that failed....
bu the end of my stay I checked Tinder , and surprisingly I got several likes , and maybe 30 matches - it never happened in Brazil - however Tinder is quite slow, so I didn’t have time to practical arrangements for real fun. If someone is planning to go to Medellin , maybe could try tinder gold....
some interesting places to go: 
- Fercho - that is where you can find hustlers, very straight forward business. However I didn’t feel very well there, something in the environment that kept me non-relaxed. If you don’t find what you want, the owner has a list of guys that he can call and the guy will come to attend you. 
- Parque Lleras - really nice area in Medellin, some gays around and hundreds of tourists. 
- Bar Chiquita - gay bar in Parque Lleras area, nice drinks, many foreigners, some people cruising. 
- Bar Donde Aquellos - gay bar also in Parque Lleras, more a place to see and be seen-  good drinks. 

The above pic is Adrian the muscle masseur who has worked at Tobi for years.