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Yes, the website is: meetfighters.com. There are members from all over the world. At least 40 members from the Bangkok area, that are interested in wrestling, boxing and muay thai. 

Yes, the website is: meetfighters.com. There are members from all over the world. At least 40 members from the Bangkok area, that are interested in wrestling, boxing and muay thai. 

Yes, the website is: meetfighters.com. There are members from all over the world. At least 40 members from the Bangkok area, that are interested in wrestling, boxing and muay thai. 

there is a webpage where you can find figters. search for meetfighters

Hi @Cball
It would probably help members here to assist you if you clarified whether you are seeking to hire paid companions, or are looking for non-commercial encounters.
If you are interested in hiring:
Several years ago there there was someone with a similar interest in Muay Thai boxers who posted on the boards (I know @bucknaway also has this interest, but I think this encounter involved someone else). He frequented a girly bar complex in Pattaya (between Beach Road and the Pattaya Beer Garden) where they had set up a boxing ring, and retired Muay Thai boxers gave exhibition matches and then mingled for tips. He got the boxers attention by giving them generous tips and buying them drinks. After a night or two of this, he befriended one guy in particular and made an “indecent proposal”. If I recall correctly, the boxer took him up on it, but being straight I think he was unwilling to do much - it was basically a muscle worship session. Obviously this modus operandi was perilous as the boxer might have take the proposal it badly. In any event, I think that bar complex is now closed.
Currently, the “Pink Panther” bar on Patpong Lane 2 in Bangkok also features Thai boxing exhibitions. It’s a straight bar, though, so the boxers may not be open to such proposals—caution is advised.
You might also check massage parlours whose websites list masseurs’ interests—some mention boxing or other sports. However, the guys that mention boxing seem to be the more the straight guys from memory, so I’m not sure how much they would be into  "sweaty rough sex with sweaty rough dudes".
If you are into non-commercial contacts:
Try scrolling through Grindr in Bangkok and filtering by interests—some users may list boxing or similar activities.
 

perhaps smiling more i.e. showing more interest in clients in the audience  and reducing a bit tip expectations can cure that malaise

Yes they are biological brothers from Burma. The similar hairstyle (which is permed not natural) doesn’t help in telling them apart. Second pic is the older brother Amen who has worked at Jupiter since 2018 and used to be one of their best performers. 
He went home at some point over past two years and younger brother showed up this year and replaced Amen in the shows he used to do. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me.
Amen just came back in the last month. I don’t know if he’s reclaimed his spot but he used to be better looking and more charismatic than Junior. I was told Junior is friendly and loves to be invited drinking. 

LAST DAY IN BANGKOK BEFORE MOVING TO PATTAYA
Today the plan was to finally see something of Bangkok. My family and colleagues back home will get suspicious if I don't show any photos of Bangkok. What have I been doing there all this time? Haha. That's why I went to Wat Paknam Phasi Charoen. It's famous for the gigantic Buddha statue on one of Bangkok's canals. This large statue was under construction for a long time, but has recently been restored to its former glory. And I'd never been there before. It's very beautiful. Highly recommended. Especially if you can find the "hidden" photo spot across the water. For your convenience, this is the Google Maps link to that photo spot:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8PPMpEYWP1mCqw4h9

In the evening, I had plans to pick up the cute guy I met yesterday in Jupiter. But first, I wanted to check out Atlas Bar. A new bar I've never been to really needs to be checked out. While I was checking some messages on my phone outside, two men wanted to go in. But they immediately turned around. I heard this was because there weren't any customers inside. So, I'm not going in. It's so awkward to be the only customer in a bar like that. Who knows, I might try it again soon when I get back from Pattaya.
I decided to walk straight to Jupiter. I passed Rainbow Dragon. It was the first time I saw that there were actually quite a few people inside. It looked like some kind of event, with a drag queen shouting something into a microphone. It drew enthusiastic reactions from the audience. I don't know if they do drag shows there often or if this was a one-off.
I find many of the boys at Jupiter attractive. So I always enjoy watching their boys' parade. My eye fell on a boy with slightly curly hair. He has a very muscular body, a cute face, and a mischievous smile. He also performs many of the show acts as a dancer and stripper. But... he seems to have a brother who also works there? Because there were two boys with curly hair who look alike. See the two photos below from the parade video on Jupiter's Facebook page, from the day I was there. One boy is walking at the beginning of the parade. The other is at the end. They do look alike, don't they? Who knows more? 

I didn't see the guy I'd spoken to yesterday in the parade, but luckily he came in right after. Papasan directed him straight to me. The deal was quickly made, since we'd actually agreed on it yesterday. Off to my hotel.

Just got back to Sydney after the most insane 48 hour layover in Bangkok en route to Dubai. Originally only planned as a quick overnight to break the long flight from SYD, but after reading a couple of recent reports here about the growing number of  African students and workers in BKK… let’s just say I re-booked the Dubai leg for two days later before I even landed.
Flight & Arrival
Landed in BKK around 16:40. The second I switched off airplane mode, Grindr exploded, 50+ taps in the first five minutes,  I hadn’t even cleared immigration yet and already had messages blowing up my phone. Took the Airport Rail Link to Phaya Thai then MRT + short Grab ride to the hotel. 
Hotel
Ibis Styles Bangkok Silom, booked a premium king room with balcony. The balcony was gold, high enough for privacy but still great for a post session cigarette while hearing the Silom chaos below.
Night 1 – Wednesday
Dropped the bags, quick shower, opened Grindr. Looked for any Black/African and it was a sea of Nigerian, Ghanaian and Cameroonian flags. Most were students or guys working for a few days in the LOS.
Hit it off with a 26 year old Ghanaian, tall, rugby build, pics showed a seriously thick bulge. He asked 3000 short time straight up....no bullshit!! I said come now, 25 minutes later he’s at the door in a tight white tank showing every ripple.
Shower show first, the ibis rooms have those big rain showers with glass walls, perfect for watching. Soaped each other up, deep kissing under the water, his tongue halfway down my throat while I tried to wrap both hands around that monster. Easily 22-23 cm and thicker than a Red Bull can, uncut, heavy foreskin, perfect curve upward. I spent a good 15 minutes on my knees just worshipping it.
Back to the bed, oil massage play (he brought his own bottle), then he ate my arse for a good 5 minutes and slid in. Took a solid five minutes of slow pushing before I could take it all. Once he was in he went full jackhammer, loud moaning began with slapping sounds echoing off the walls (so sorry to the lovely older couple next door). Bred me deep twice, massive loads. Tipped him an extra 500 because I literally saw stars.
Grabbed some food from the street stall  on Silom Soi 4, then one quick beer before bed. Passed out happy.
Day 2 – Thursday
Did a bit of shopping during the day and had a nice swim in the afternoon. Opened Grindr at 7pm and the grid was on fire again. Decided today would be a double header.
Guy #2 – a 24 year old Nigerian, nice body,face 10/10. Same deal, 3000 ST.  Spent almost two hours: long 69 session (he was an amazing cocksucker), then he carried me to the balcony (yes I asked him to, I'm paying good money here guys!!!!) bent me over the railing and pounded me while the traffic roared below. Shot so hard I felt it hit deep. Stayed another 30 minutes cuddling and kissing, total sweetheart.
Quick nap, dinner, then guy #3 just after midnight. Nice student from Cameroon, 29, gym-rat, veiny arms, low hanging balls. He was the most verbal,  kept calling me “baby” and “good boy” while he choked me lightly on his beautiful fat uncut cock. Oiled me up again, slow sensual fuck first, then flipped me on my stomach and went full animal. Loudest moaner of the three,  I’m shocked no one complained. Left another huge creamy load inside and kissed my forehead on the way out.
Practical Tips
•  ibis Styles Silom = 100% joiner-friendly, no drama even with three different guys in 48 hrs.
•  Grab taxis everywhere, never paid more than 120 THB in the Silom/Sathorn area.
•  Grindr grid for African guys is absolutely stacked, turn on your phone at the airport and you’ll see what I mean.
•  3000 THB short time seems to be the going rate right now for the top-tier African pros, worth every baht.
Verdict
Best quick stopover of my life. Three absolute stallions, zero attitude and hotel was perfect. I'm already looking at flights for a full week in May dedicated solely to the African boys in Bangkok. 
Thanks Bangkok… see you very soon
 

I never Godon but I did find another very attractive CMU model.  Do other beside Goson also work in massage shops?

I see that Shamelesmack (or Macaroni as he is known on this Forum) is back posting on his blog, and he has put up an updated set of maps of the Silom Area on his blog.
Always handy to consult before you travel, he has a subtle colour coding for the massage places that is particularly useful.
 
Map of Silom-Surawong area, October 2025 – ShamelessMack2
 

Today is my final day in Bangkok.  I'll check out of my hotel at 11am and have them store my bag until I'm ready to go to the airport.  I'm waiting to receive some Line messages about which masseurs are available.  Maybe I'll go to The Green for a midday foot massage that might turn into something more.  I've got 3500 baht remaining since I didn't off that second guy last night.  I did mention choosing a second boy to my Lao Freshboy last night but he didn't really react.  I got the impression that he preferred me all to himself or did not want to top a boy for me.  Maybe next time! I promised to let him know before my next trip and he's looking forward to being with me for at least a few days then.  We didn't agree on a price yet but I'm sure we'll come to an understanding and I'll obviously cover the off fees and all expenses during the time he is with me plus maybe 2k per day for him.  
 
A mini review of The Quarter Silom by UHG: It's my second time staying here and I've got to say I really like it.  It's in a great location with tons of massage shops nearby.  The staff have always been pleasant and I've never had issues bringing a boy back late at night.  There's a fantastic pizza restaurant attached to the hotel called 90 Grams.  I think I'll go there for lunch as I thoroughly enjoyed it on my last stay.  There's also a nice coffee shop underneath the pizza place that I like.  I always opt for the Deluxe room with bathtub and breakfast included.  Both times I've been put in building 3 which is unattached so I don't even have to go through the lobby at night. Both times I've had a view of 9-Teen massage so it's fun to peak occasionally at the boys as they set up and hang out.  I do think some of the boys are hot but I just get intimidated by so many guys looking at me so I usually just walk by and smile.  The breakfast is fine.  Nothing to write home about but the coffee machine makes cappuccinos and there's plenty of variety to where I can always leave feeling like I've got my money's worth.  The rate comes out to $125 per night.  They also have luggage storage and a bank ATM on premises.  So for my purposes I'll keep staying here until someone on here convinces me to upgrade to something fancier.  I usually only stay at Hilton's and Hyatt's because of my credit card points and free nights but I'm worried those hotels might be strict about joiners so I stay here.  
Haven't got a Line message today yet so I'll use Grab to get a motorbike ride to the MBK Center for some shopping before getting one last massage.  I haven't been on the back of a bike for about 22 years since I was in Vietnam at age 17.  Seems exciting.
 

@khaolakguy  You're very welcome.  Yeah it is weird that they don't have it.  They just had a small foam pillow.  The massage, masseur, and location were great otherwise.
@floridarob That's definitely advice I should take.  At Wabi Sabi he had primed me for over an hour before offering the extras and I was pretty worked up by then.  Great tactic.  
@jason1975Thanks!
After the massage at Wabi Sabi I walked over to MBK Center which is known as the largest counterfeit mall in Bangkok.  I didn't buy anything but might go back tomorrow.  I went to G's Bangkok and it was enjoyable.  I only ordered German dishes and they were tasty.  Also a beer.  Afterwards went back to my hotel for a one hour power nap.  Ended up getting to Freshboys around 9:30pm.  Upon being seated I immediately exchanged a 1000 baht note for ten 100's. To my pleasant surprise, the boy I offed in March was up on stage again.  I decided he'd probably forgotten about me so I should make an effort to assess all the boys and not favor him just because we had prior interactions.  Alas, I succumbed to the urge to pick him.  There were more than a few that I could have been happy with but his look and tattoos just do it for me.  
The mamasan called his number and he came over and a drink was ordered for him.  Once I explained that we had interacted in March he kind of lit up.  I mentioned that I remembered that he's Lao. He let me know he would like to leave after the show.  I wanted to get agreement before I agreed to off him for the night.  He agreed to kissing and showering together.  The show was enjoyable.  One sexy hot dancer and two guys with their cocks out.  There was another crew of dancers and I loved watching the more submissive seeming one.  I recognized him from last time as well and I really thought he gave a great performance. I decided not to off two boys and instead just did one.   I had a 100 baht note in hand and when my guy was getting dressed I saw my opportunity to stand up and give the cute dancer a 100 baht note.  Also gave 100 to the waiter and mamasan.  
 
We went back to the hotel and took a shower and hopped into bed.  This experience was almost night and day compared to my my first time with him.  He seemed so much friendlier and less mechanical.  He washed me and let me wash him.  He actively kissed me including tongue which was wonderful.  The sexual stuff was fun.  After we finished we both showered again.  We chatted via translation apps and I gave him a bit extra.  3000 instead of 2500.  He gave me his Line account so I added him.  I'm wary of how this may go.  I am not going to be sending money or thinking he's romantically interested. 
While I was at Freshboys there was a gentleman sitting next to me because it was rather packed in there.  When he noticed that I had offed my boy the other gentleman asked me how much it costs.  I had to switch my translation app to Chinese. I explained it to him in terms of how pricing works here.  He was grateful. I ordered some Foodland bites to my hotel via Grab.  I'd type more but I'm fading fast.  I'll post tomorrow 

So I went to Wabi Sabi.  The interior was very nicely decorated.  Comparing the interior to Kmanspa that I went to last time it was much brighter and minimal.  I booked one of the guys that was available today via Line.  He was as gorgeous as the pictures say and had a fun masculine vibe about him. I decided I would go with the flow and enjoy the massage from this sexy dude regardless if extras materialized or not.  I'm not a fan of the massage table because it didn't have a hole for your chin so after an hour on my stomach my chin and jaw were feeling uncomfortable.  Upon entering he asked me to take a shower so I did and changed into a robe.  I also helped myself to some mouthwash but that was in vain.  I laid on my stomach and he began the massage.  He had great pressure, almost too much at times but he asked if it was alright.  He definitely brushed against some areas very strategically so I had a feeling I knew where this was going.  
It was booked as a two hour massage.  At about the one hour mark he asked if he could use the bathroom and I said ok.  About 13 minutes later he comes out and continues the massage.  Twice during the massage he put me into very suggestive positions with our bodies entwined.  With about 25 minutes left he asked "do you want B2B?"  I asked what that means and he said body to body for 1500 tip.  I of course said yes and he stripped down.  He had beautiful tattoos all over his chest and back that reminded of the full body ones that the Japanese yakuza get.  So sexy!  So then he gets to work with a focus on my nips while he works my piece with his oily hand.  It was great but it wasn't quite doing it for me and I knew we were running out of time.  He had been turning me on so much earlier but for some reason his tactics weren't going to get me finished in time so I took over while he focused his efforts on getting me off. 
He had made a comment wondering why I wasn't nearing climax and I didn't feel like explaining.  One of my hands was kinda touching his muscled tattooed arms and back while I was pumping away.  I honestly just wanted to explore his body and maybe a kiss but he never got near my lips.  Well I kinda kissed the back of his head once or twice.  He then made an executive decision and slipped a finger into my butt ever so slightly and he could tell it was well placed.  As I was nearing climax he kept pushing in a little more until I shot.  It felt great.  We went over time by about ten minutes but that's fine due to his long bathroom break.  I paid him the money and asked if he's working tomorrow and sadly he's not.  I may have booked him again but I don't think it wise of me to book him again tonight if I really plan on offing a guy or two from Freshboys or some other place.  Now to get a meal somewhere and get ready for tonight.  I probably need to go to the ATM again because I don't think my 10700 baht is going to be enough as I've already spend over 7k.
 

I'm currently in Bangkok and will be leaving in about 30 hours so I need to be thoughtful with how I allocate my time.  I arrived at BKK airport at 11:40pm last night.  Immediately after customs I took out 10.7k baht from a Kasikorn Bank ATM.  I then walked past the taxi area and instead opted for a Grab.  I wanted to avoid any potential hassle with the taxi drivers as I'm under the impression that they like to gouge tourists a bit and I also wanted to pay with a credit card so Grab was ideal.  Within 15 minutes my Grab arrived and off we went.  About 35 minutes to my hotel in Silom.  The ride with all fees was about 650 baht and I was feeling generous so added 200 baht tip.  
Checked into my hotel(The Quarter) at about 1:15am.  I then freshened up and decided not to waste time and head straight to Good Boys.  It was a 6 minute walk with the slightest drizzle of rain.  First I walked down the main road to get a lay of the land and then doubled back to the Pavilion under Fresh Boys where the other gogo bar is located.  It was about 1:45am and they were about to close so it was probably unexpected that I showed up.  As I got close to the door a boy greeted me and walked me inside.  I was sat at a  table in the center of the room which was not ideal for me though the bar was pretty packed.  Mostly boys but patrons too.  I prefer to be on the perimeter so I can people watch.  At my vantage point I couldn't see anyone behind me.  I planned to just get a drink and not off anyone but the mamasan was sitting next to me and was persistently asking who I wanted etc.  
I kept smiling and declining anyone that came up to me.  There were about 5 or 6 drag queens providing entertainment and then there was a show where a few of the boys hit a drum with their cocks.  Afterwards a couple of them asked for tips and I politely declined.  It was 2am and the mamasan was really trying to get me to off someone and then I saw a sexy guy I liked on stage.  I told the mamasan his number and bought him a drink.  I think he was surprised that I picked him.  I asked if he wanted to go back to my hotel and he said yes.  I asked the mamasan for the price.  He proposed 3000 for boy, 500 for bar, plus 3x400 for the drinks.  I countered and said it was too much so then he asked me how much I could afford.  I said 2500 plus 500 off fee.  This was what I had paid at Freshboys in March so thought it was a good price to offer.  He accepted.  I also added 100 baht as tip for the mamasan.  I walked out paying 4300 all included for 3 hour short time with my Myanmar boy.  
He didn't speak English.  Before I paid he said I could not fuck him and I agreed.  We went to my room and using Google Translate I asked if we could shower together and he agreed.  We did that and then started the fun.  He said we could kiss but he was seriously bad at that or just didn't wanna be too gay so I gave up on kissing.  He was enjoying using my mouth as a kind of vagina and eventually I could see him watching porn so I got curious and started jerking off with him.  Alas it was straight porn so I assume he is probably gay for pay only.  We did some more things and both got off and showered together.  I really tried to make him feel comfortable.  Once he was dressed I thanked him and we smiled and he went for a hug.  It felt genuine.  
Overall I had a fun time my first night.  I was a bit jetlagged and spent more than I had intended too.  I also was being pressured due to time being short at Good Boys so I was not able to ask all of the questions I had meant to ask about what services would be provided.  I also had hoped to get to know the guy before offing him.  This will all be corrected for tonight.  I will go to Freshboys for sure.  I will be able to better assess the differences in type of boy.  There were definitely plenty of Twink types at Good Boys but like someone said on another thread, it looks like they are a bit more well fed and have been to a gym before.  I'm still trying to decide what I like.  Ideally I find a boy that is willing to top tonight and he picks another boy to perform the act with in my hotel.  I did see a very hot guy at Good Boys but he was sitting with some Asian men and a few boys.  I was hoping to snag him but as the bar closed he changed into his street clothes and left with the other customer.  If I go back tonight he will be who I'm looking for.  
On a side note, the boy I offed looked to be in his early twenties.  When he stripped down I noticed a little lump on his penis which was rather off-putting.  I'm not an expert on std's but hopefully that was not what it was.  I don't think it was.  If I'd seen that prior to being in my hotel I likely would have passed on him.  
Now I'm gonna take a nap and try to schedule a massage somewhere closeby.  Not sure if i'll go somewhere that extras are likely.  I'll hitup one of @vinapu's restaurant recommendations for lunch and then start going to the gogo bars around 9pm or whenever they open.  I'm really trying to get better at saying no when people ask for money. I plan to just have one drink at a bar, Maybe spend 30 minutes and then move to the next one and end up at Freshboys at 9:45pm.  I'll hang there and think about offing 1 or 2 guys but keeping my options open in case I wind up at Good Boys later and maybe I can hire that hot guy that was booked by someone else.  I didn't see the number he was wearing.  Apologies for the rambling post.  I'm feeling rested now but I bet the jetlag will catch up to me sometime.  I can sleep on the flights home.

Day ??? - Update
Good morning.  Am just running out of steam and have decided to finish the trip report once I return to Denver the end of this week. Really just physically exhausted, and emotionally drained.  Been in a funk the last couple of days with lots of mixed emotions and some disappointment as well.  Two days ago, during one of our daily exchange of messages, Bee mentioned he was going to be short on his rent for November.  I know, I know…everyone else probably saw this coming.  Initially I had expected some sort of plea for financial assistance, but it never came, so I guess I was overly optimistic that there might be more to this.  Anyway, I asked how much he needed and he said 5000 Baht.  I agreed to deposit the money into his bank account so that he could pay his rent.  Didn’t mind, really, and just being me…even added an extra 5000 to the deposit.  So, all total was 10,000 Baht.  Keep in mind he had only asked for 5000, so being overly generous is totally on me.  Then yesterday, a message about how low his salary is at the bank and how many financial obligations he has, plus the need to support his parents, etc. - you get the general idea by now.  His remedy to the dire financial situation is that I could send him a monthly stipend of 1000 USD!!!   As I said, I was half expecting this early on before getting too emotionally invested.  Basically just told him I was retired, on a fixed income, and not interested in such an arrangement unless we were actually a couple living together with shared expenses.  No reply yet to what would amount to a flat out refusal of his request.  Will see what transpires next, but definitely not sending any more money to him, and really am very disappointed to learn it was nothing more than a game to him and all about the money.  Thus…my funky mood.   Meeting Woody this morning from Siam Roads, so hopefully he will be able to brighten my spirits a bit…think I will have him set me up for a massage at his shop today with some cute guy to take my mind off the negative feelings.  Everyone here had warned me to be careful, so it wasn't a total shock, but still...

Day 15 Sukhothai
I had never heard of Sukhothai before this trip, nor really knew much about the history of Thailand.  Sukhothai is known as the birthplace of Thai civilization.  Our day started with a visit to the UNESCO listed Sukhothai Historical Park where we had a chance to explore the centuries old temples and palace ruins.  One interesting fact to me was that prior to Buddhism, many people were actually Hindu and you can see a mixture of both Hinduism and Buddhism in many of the old temples.  Under royal patronage, Buddhism flourished and many impressive monasteries were constructed of brick covered with carved stucco.
The Kingdom of Sukhothai is credited with the invention and development of many of the unique identifying characteristics of Siamese (Thai) culture, many of them attributed directly to the kingdom’s most famous and beloved King Ramkhamhaeng, who is considered the Founding Father of the Thai Nation.  Stone inscriptions found at the sites provided evidence of the earliest examples of Thai writing and gave a detailed account of the economy, religion, social organization and governance of the Sukhothai Kingdom.
The area of Sukhothai was also home to accomplished innovators in hydraulic engineering. They modified the landscape of the kingdom in such a way that water was dammed; reservoirs, ponds and canals were constructed; flooding controlled; and water was brought to serve a variety of agricultural, economic and ritual functions as well as to provide the towns’ inhabitants with water for their daily lives and protection in the form of city moats. From that day onwards, the kings of Thailand have been acknowledged for their ability to control the kingdom’s water.  The Sukhothai Kingdom was known as a prosperous time and place, and in Thai history has often been referred to as a Golden Age, The Happiness of Thai, or The Dawn of Happiness.  I highly recommend a visit to this area.
We followed up our visit to the Historical Park with a foodie adventure…Thai Cooking Class.  We went to the Baan Suan Suda Cooking School where our host gave us a tour of their garden with homegrown herbs, vegetables and fruits.  Next we sorted out the different ingredients we would need to prepare our dishes getting to experience the Thai version of farm to table.  At the conclusion we were able to feast on the amazing dishes we prepared: Sweet/Sour Chicken, Cashew Chicken, Chicken Green Curry, Stir-fried Morning Glory, and Pad Thai.  We finished off with fresh fruit from the garden called Thai Lamoot…something new to me.
After lunch we had two hours to relax in our rooms or around the hotel swimming pool before meeting to attend Sukhothai Loy Krathong Festival.  With roots going back over 700 years, this ancient festival honors the water goddess and carries deep cultural meaning. A unique part of the celebration is Phao Thian Len Fai— the lighting of candles and fireworks displays as well as various forms of live entertainment. I assume this tradition must be a part of Thai identity and cultural pride, similar to the festivals scheduled to take place in Bangkok (Light Show) and Pattaya (Fireworks).  Celebrations have been toned down somewhat due to the passing of the Queen Mother, so there were no fireworks displays, but plenty of candle lighting and other light displays.  We saw intricate krathonhs, sky lanterns and even historical recreations from King Ramkhamhaeng’s era.  Enjoyed many different types of food from street vendors for dinner.  Continue to communicate with Paradise Sam and boyfriend Bee on a daily basis.  Just taking things slowly, day by day...see where it goes.  

Day 14 Sukhothai
Another early morning start.  Our tour director has warned us that today will be a long travel day, as it will take approximately 6 hours to reach Sukhothai.  This does not include stops along the way.  First stop on our journey was at a roadside stand selling sticky rice, but unlike any other I have had in Thailand before.  This was sweetened with coconut milk and sugar, mixed with taro or beans, and pressed into a piece of bamboo about 12-15 inches long.  They used black or purple rice, and cook the rice in the bamboo over charcoal fire for around 90 minutes.  Once the sticky rice is removed from the fire, the use a pick or hatchet to split open the bamboo.  Using a spoon you eat the sticky rice directly from the bamboo.  Very different texture from mango sticky rice, and this is always warm as you eating it coming directly from the charcoal.  It was really quite delicious.  Next stop was a visit to Bhutsaya Khiri Suvarnabhumi, also known as the Rock Buddha.  This is an old mining area that was no longer used and a monk convinced the government to give the land to allow a temple and seated buddha to be built. The project was started in 2014 and completed in 2019.  It was quite impressive to see, as was the accompanying elevated viewing walkway.  The engineering required to build the walkway was fascinating.  Next stop was at Kamphaeng Phet Historical Park, which I believe is a UNESCO site. During the Sukhothai Kingdom, this city was known as Chakangrao and was an important part of the defense system for the kingdom.  Next stop was lunch at a nice garden restaurant ‘off the beaten path’ so to speak, with some traditional but different dishes than we have had previously.  After lunch, another two hours on the bus before arriving at our hotel in Sukhothai.  A good day, but kind of travel weary.  Looking forward to a good nights sleep after our group dinner.  Had a nice chat with Bee online before turning in for the evening.

Day 13 Kanchanaburi
It seems there is some special event for high school students taking place in Kanchanaburi sponsored by a local university.  Not sure of the event purpose, but the students are from Bangkok and I am assuming they attend a private school with English being the main language.  Instructors were all native English speakers. This resort is quite large, so with the exception of breakfast this morning, we haven’t seen much of them.  There is a Convention Pavilion on the property which is where most of their activities are taking place.  Restaurant staff seemed slightly frazzled trying to deal with 100+ teenagers plus all of their regular guests.  Our out today is to Hellfire Pass. Both the museum/cemetery visit yesterday, and this trip to Hellfire Pass were very emotional. We heard the harrowing stories of how the 500-meter-long and 26-meter-deep section of rock was dug out by Prisoners of War using no more than picks, hammers and their bare hands. Exploring the Hellfire Pass Memorial Museum gave me cause for some serious reflection.  My father was in the army during World War II, and was stationed in the Philippines.  As I was looking at the exhibits and reading the stories, even though he was not a POW I stopped to think what if he had been captured and sent here.  Conditions were just horrific.  It really brought tears to my eyes.  It is quite a physical trek, about 70 meters down, but there is a well-built and maintained path.  Be aware it includes many sections of steep steps, however.  You also should come prepared with spray for the mosquitos.  They are quite abundant and very hungry.  Once on the trail, there are no restrooms available, no return services, and no water…so go prepared.  You need to plan for more than just one hour here…we spent probably three hours at the site before departing for lunch.  The museum and pass were actually built/developed by the Australian government.  They maintain the site, and even pay the salaries of workers.  We drove about 20 minutes from the Museum to a local restaurant for lunch of traditional Thai dishes: minced pork w/holy basil, chicken wings, shrimp in tamarind sauce, green vegetable and soup.  The shrimp dish and green vegetable are unique or special to this area of Thailand.  Soup was all vegetables in some sort of a tomato based broth, but not spicy at all.  After lunch we headed back to the river for a long tail boat ride enjoying the mountains and jungle scenery, ending with a taste of culture at Mon Tribal Village.  Busy day, but very satisfying as well.  Group had dinner together at the hotel restaurant…a very nice buffet dinner with a mix of Thai and Western (fried chicken nuggets and baked macaroni and cheese).  Depart for Sukhothai in the morning.  And, of course, been chatting with Bee.  Actually good the tour is keeping me so busy that it is serving as a distraction from not being able to see him again this trip.  ‘sigh’   Heard from Sam at Paradise again as well.  Kind of given up on the idea of anything with the cute bus attendant. He is always busy helping everyone and that's his job...I get it.  Once we are dropped off at the hotel, the bus, driver and attendant all disappear.  The only one we ever see around the hotel is the tour director until our pick up time the next day.  No idea where those two are actually eating and sleeping.  Besides...keeping my focus on Bee at the moment.  

Day 12 Kanchanaburi
Another early morning start.  Departure from Bangkok was 6:30am once again.  Everyone had to request a to go breakfast box and have luggage downstairs in the lobby by 6:15am so it could be loaded onto the bus.  Will be staying at Felix River Kwai Resort for the next two nights.  Tour Director said travel time would be around three hours to Kanchanaburi, and I believe most everyone slept for a big portion of that time.  Upon arrival we went to the Thailand-Burma Railway Center, and the War Cemetery where over 6000 prisoners of war were laid to rest.  I really don’t recall much from my history lessons about the impact of WW2 in this area.  Yes, I know there was a famous movie produced about the Bridge over the River Kwai, but I never watched it.  Walking through the museum exhibits and reading about how terrible the conditions were for the POW’s, I was curious why more isn’t said.  We are constantly reminded about the European front and how terrible the holocaust was, but you hear very little about the Asian front.  This stop was a bit of an eye-opener for me, and I want to learn more once I return to Denver.  After a couple of hours here, we traveled to see the infamously named Death Railway.  We had a delicious traditional Thai lunch at a restaurant near the train station.  After lunch we boarded a local train for a ride with gorgeous views over the river and a journey across wooden viaducts.  We rode the train for approximately 45-50 minutes before getting off.  Our coach was waiting to take us to see the famous bridge.  Had a chance to actually walk out on the bridge.  The resort is located just a short distance across the river.  Had a nice group dinner together to bring our day to a close.  Fortunately, no early departure tomorrow for the days activities.  Heard from all three of my young men today.  Think they were checking up on me.  lol.  Was actually surprised to hear from the first Grinder guy.  Don’t want to encourage him too much since I am really not interested.  Sam from Paradise was just checking in, and chatted a few times with Bee throughout the day.

Day 11 Ayutthaya
Our day started with an early morning (6:30am!) coach ride to visit Ayutthaya, Thailand's historic core, now an intriguing archaeological park with palace, temple, and statue ruins. Highlights of the day were visits to Wat Maha That and Wat Lokayasutharam. We probably had about four hours exploring the ancient grounds.  Our tour guide was excellent and provided a lot of interesting historical information that helped put things in better perspective for me.  I had visited Ayutthaya previously with my Thai friends, but even they do not know all of the history.  For them it was just a visit to some old ruins, but they could not provide any context.  While I enjoyed visiting with my friends, I appreciated this experience more because of the historical information.  Next, we had a cruise back to Bangkok, savoring a buffet lunch with Chao Phraya River views, local scenes, and landmarks like the Royal Grand Palace and Wat Arun.  It was a full day, with plenty of walking, but well worth the repeat visit.  The tour company used Grand Pearl cruise, and the food was excellent and plentiful.  It is a smaller boat, so only our group was on board for the lunch and cruise back to Bangkok.  I’ve done a dinner river cruise in Bangkok before that was large, packed like sardines, and the food so-so.
We returned to the hotel around 5:30pm, so I sent a text to Bee right away.  He is still working, but will come to the hotel when he finishes for the day so we can spend a little time together tonight before the bus leaves Bangkok in the morning.  Last night in the city.  Had Bee not been available, I was considering a visit this evening to FaFa, but would prefer to spend my time with Bee.  Walked to a Subway just down the street from my hotel and picked up sandwiches and soda we can share together in the room.  Would prefer to do that than leave, run around trying to find a place to eat, order, wait for food, etc., all of which cuts into my quality alone time with him.  lol.

Day 10 Bangkok
Well, woke up to the news that the Queen Mother had passed away.  Not sure what impact that will have on our itinerary for the day.  This morning we are scheduled to go to the Grand Palace, but I suspect it may be closed.  I believe we should be ok to visit Wat Arun and Thongburi Klongs.  Was just about to hop in the shower when the power went off in the hotel.  Pitch dark in the room.  Was out for about 30 minutes.  No clue what the problem was.  Could have been an outage in the area, or just something with this building.
The hotel room is larger than Ibis, but not by much, and little to no storage.  You can definitely tell this is an older building.  It is showing signs of wear over the years.  Breakfast buffet was really very similar to Ibis.  There was a mix of Asian and Western cuisines, eggs cooked to order, pastries, bread for toast, fresh fruits, cold cereals, juices and coffee.  No idea about the cost of breakfast here since it is included in the tour package.  Breakfast and Lunch is included every day, plus five dinners.  Group is an interesting mix of people, but I find that always to be the case when I have taken other tours.  Smaller group than usual, with only 22 persons total.  Six from Australia…believe they are all related somehow, late 60’s or early 70’s and retired.  Four retired females from Canada who do an annual trip together, again late 60’s or early 70’s.  Mother/son duo from LA.  Son is probably mid-30’s and mother mid-60’s.  Lesbian couple from Arizona…late 40’s or early 50’s.  Single female from San Diego.  Four male friends from Orlando in mid-30’s who enjoy taking tours together.  No hint whatsoever of ‘family’.  Way too much testosterone in that group, and interest in the World Series.  lol.  Two other retired females, but don’t recall where they are from, and then me.  Two of the Aussie’s have health issues and were struggling to keep up with the group today because there is a lot of walking involved.  In addition to the Tour Director and Bus Driver, there is also a Bus Assistant to help with luggage, entry/exit on bus, pass out cold water, etc.  The assistant is a handsome young man in mid-20’s I would guess and sexy as all get out.  Had a difficult time taking my eyes off of him.  Chose a seat on the bus strategically located next to the ice chest where he retrieves the water for everyone, always look him directly in the eye and thank him by name for everything.  He always responds with the biggest smile.  Not sure where the staff lodge when we are outside Bangkok, but need to investigate that a little more.  lol.
No surprise.  Grand Palace was officially closed to observe a 100 day period of mourning and to prepare for the funeral of Queen Mother.  I suspected that was going to happen, as did most of the rest of the group.  We did get to see the Reclining Buddha and Emerald Buddha.  The grounds and building that houses the Emerald Buddha were actually more impressive than the Buddha.  I had no idea it was so small.  Anyway, no real excitement to report.  Had a nice lunch at a restaurant along the river not far from the Grand Palace and continued on our scheduled itinerary.  Returned to the hotel around 5pm, so plenty of time to get into mischief if I decide to venture back out this evening.  Some in the group opted for an additional item to visit the Jim Thompson House.  Been there before, so decided against going again.  Had a nice chat via LINE with Bee.  Decided if I got back to the hotel tomorrow and it wasn’t too late, we will try to meet briefly one more time before the bus heads north on Monday.

Day 9 Bangkok - Part 2
Whoever designed and decorated this hotel did not realize that disco died in the late 70’s or early 80’s…I feel like I am in a time warp and transported back to my college days.  LOL.  Much prefer Ibis Silom!  Totally different clientele in this establishment.  Predominantly caucasians, with mixture of American, European and Australian judging from accents/language.  Very few Asian tourists here, but some Middle Eastern.  I am pretty sure they must have an arrangement with different tour companies as it seems they host a lot of groups.  As anyone checked in they were handed a typed letter that said the hotel would be conducting a mandatory fire fighting and evacuation drill for staff on TUESDAY, 24th October, 2025 between 16:00-17:00.  Very reassuring when you realize this is October 24, but sure is not Tuesday…it’s Friday.  Sitting here laughing as a type this.  All of the staff was gathered outside in front of the building for the training, with members of the fire department giving instruction.  That left nobody in the hotel to help any of the registered guests.  Just rolling on the floor now I am laughing so hard.  The hotel is similar in size to Ibis Silom with similar amenities, but much older.  Very near BTS Asok and Terminal 21.
Checked in with the Tour Director…older Thai lady who set up shop just off the lobby to provide assistance and information to group members.  Meet and greet social the first evening is optional, she said, so I decided to skip it to give me more time with Bee.  He had to be at work early the next morning so couldn’t spend the night, but we enjoyed the evening together.  This trip has produced a number of unexpected and surprising developments.  Didn’t think I would meet anyone via Grinder; didn’t expect Sam from Paradise would want to spend time with me outside of the shop; and didn’t expect Bee to broach the subject of boyfriend.  Was not prepared for that conversation and did not see that coming at all.
So, would appreciate thoughts of forum members on this.  Exact words: “I want to be your boyfriend, what should I do?  I’ve never had a boyfriend.  I’m not sweet.  I’m straightforward.  I like my privacy.  Would you accept me?  I’d like to know your feelings.”   Advice, suggestions, comments, recommendations…?!?!?    Says the age difference does not bother him whatsoever.  Distance is something we can figure out.  Those are the two big obstacles I threw out during the conversation.  In case you were wondering…he hasn’t asked for anything, has a decent job with one of the big banks, and provides some support to his parents.  Most of his family, including a much younger sister, was killed in 2004 tsunami.  He was just 10 years old at the time.  From what I can gather it is only him and his parents who survived.
I really don’t know what to make of this proposal.  What, precisely, does boyfriend mean to him, especially since he says he has never had one?  Will a request for assistance come later on?  Hate to be skeptical, but when you have just met someone within the last week, then go from a couple rounds of great sex and companionship to let’s be boyfriends, it raises all sorts of red flags in my mind.  Perhaps I am reading too much into this and should just go with the flow?

Day 9 Bangkok - Part 1
It has been such a very long time, I had forgotten how nice it is to wake up beside someone.  Had some quality snuggle time before taking a shower together, then went down to the breakfast buffet.  No problems, as when I originally made the reservation for the hotel I had booked for two persons.  LOL.  Call it wishful thinking.  In reality, from reading various posts on the forum I decided it was best to do it that way instead of raising questions if/when bringing a guest back to the room.  If I had a guest and they wanted to eat breakfast, it would be covered.  If not, it wasn’t something I would need to actually pay for unless they were physically present.  After breakfast we headed back upstairs, said those last few parting words with strong hugs and a few minutes of deep kissing and off he went back to Paradise.  He asked me to send him messages from the US and to keep in touch when I went home.  Assured him I would, and told him to let me know if he changed shops, changed jobs, moved, etc.  During the course of our evening together, I actually learned from him that the guys who work in the massage shops are also available to ‘off’.  Not all shops, and not all boys, but some.  New piece of information for me.  He said he will usually get one customer per day, but some of the guys don’t get anyone.  Off fee paid to the shop is similar to amount paid to the clubs.  For some strange reason, Paradise is 555 Baht.  Such an odd amount. lol.  Next time I will dispense with all the cat and mouse game and just take him straight away to stay with me.  He said he never went off with a customer before, and also never did sexual things with them like we did…only handjobs.  Of course, isn’t that what they all say?  Color me skeptical.
Feeling somewhat melancholy…a little excited about the tour starting and getting to see different areas of Thailand, but thinking about all of the fun I have experienced in Bangkok like never before and really hate to be leaving the city.  Thai friends have invited me to use their condo in Pattaya during the winter months in Colorado and I just may take them up on the offer so I can spend more time in this glorious city.  Bangkok and Pattaya are not that far away from each other.  Much closer than Denver and Bangkok!!! LOL   Need to pack, check out of Ibis, and take taxi to Galleria 10 off Sukhumvit.  Had message from Grinder guy #2…the one I really like.  We will get together later in the evening after the tour ‘meet and greet’.  Seeing Bee again will make leaving Sam bearable. I feel like I should put a revolving door on my hotel room…or a post a sign that says ‘take a number.  Wish this would have happened to me 30 years ago!

Day 8 Bangkok
Well, as the saying goes, too many men and too little time.  Realized when I went down for breakfast this morning at the hotel that tomorrow is Friday and I will transfer from Ibis Silom to the tour hotel in the afternoon for the beginning of the next part of my adventure.  There are still so many different massage shops I had hoped to try that are not even going to make it on the short list, which is very sad and disappointing.  Now that I have also dipped my toe into the world of clubs, it has wet my appetite to check out some of the others.  I am afraid these adventures to explore more will have to wait for another trip.  There will be some ‘down time’ on the tour where you can opt out of certain experiences, and I may take advantage of that while still in Bangkok.  Once we are on the road going to different communities, not sure what mischief I may get into, but am definitely planning to keep my options open.  Already know when we reach our final destination of Chiang Mai that I want to visit Aqua CNX and Classic House.  Also mentioned to Woody about possibly going to the club there, Adams Apple, if we have time.  Anyway, planning to lay low this morning at the hotel and probably sleep a little more.  Not sure what time Paradise young man will contact me, but expect that won’t be until later afternoon or early evening, which gives me a little time to play during the afternoon.  lol.
Had a lazy morning hanging out at the hotel.  Was not sure if I wanted to venture out for fun or not.  Had mixed feelings about whether the meeting with my Paradise guy was actually going to happen.  You just never know about these things.  Was hopeful that all would go according to plan, but trying to be realistic at the same time.  As it turns out, there was no need to be worried or concerned.  He lives about 50 minutes by motorbike outside city center.  Sent me a message via LINE to let me know he was going to head my way around 2pm.  Ask if he had a swimsuit and told him if he did to bring it.  If not, we would go and buy one.  He had one.  Since he was coming for the afternoon, I decided against venturing out and getting into any more mischief.  At the recommendation of @vinapu, had the lunch special of cashew chicken at my hotel.  For me, it was the best of all three locations.  Had no mushrooms whatsoever, plenty of white meat chicken and cashews along with red, green, and yellow peppers as well as onion.  Also came with a fried egg, which was a nice touch. 
By the time ‘Sam’ arrived it was close to 3pm.  Came up to the room, we changed into swimsuits, and went up to the rooftop to enjoy the pool and relax.  Ordered a couple of appetizers to snack on as well.  He said he had already had lunch, but wasn’t 100% sure he was being honest with me.  Knew it would be awhile before any dinner, so couldn’t hurt to have a couple of things to snack on.  He also had a beer…I stayed with my Thai tea.  Was just a nice change  of pace and relaxing afternoon.  Eventually headed back down to the room where we proceeded to enjoy a shower together, some play time, serious cuddle time, short nap, then headed out to explore the night market and find a place to have dinner.  Just a nice relaxing evening compared to what I have been putting my body through the rest of my trip.  lol.  Decent restaurant on Silom not far from Night Market.  Had some Sea Bass soup and Wagyu grilled steak.  I am not a big seafood lover, but actually enjoyed the soup more than the steak.  Sam preferred the steak.  He also enjoyed another bottle of Chang.  He was so polite and really over-protective of me while we were out walking around.  Wanted to make sure I was ok and having a good time.  I was enjoying the attention and the affection.  Headed back to the hotel for some more playtime before falling asleep with my arms wrapped tightly around him.  Magical, blissful evening for me…hopefully for him as well.