Enchanted_Elixir

It depends on which personality we are talking about.

Reality bites and the truth hurts.

There’s a difference between massage places that locals classify as S or SS (soft and super soft), and H (Hard). Only the last type of place will penetration be on the table. In S/SS shops the emphasis is on the massage and extras are an added bonus. The massage shop fee is usually higher. Skipping massage in such places doesn’t make a lot of sense. They won’t do outcalls either. If you are not aware of this distinction between shops you’re bound to make mistakes. You can’t ask Prestige massage for the cost of extras or outcall service for example 😂 You don’t really go to the H places for massage anyway, and many aren’t trained, so the usual practice is a bit of rubbing for 15 minutes before main course begins. H places are The Prince, Senso and Jey Spa Or most of the Saphan Khwai shops My recommendation: visit the gay onsens during weekends, you can have a lot of fun and make local friends. Vibes are good. Kaikan Onsen, Ryuu Onsen, Ensen Onsen

Yes, go there and spend time with the older, miserable guys and the cheap Charlies 😜

Kigi - nice choice 😁. Please provide a review of the Residences because it is so new.

Yes, they have advertised this way before with other masseurs. Fafa massage is very upfront about their prices, including a differentiation in tips between Soft and Hard service. This is presumably to make it easier and more transparent to the mainland Chinese market they are appealing to who are unused to tipping culture. 3000 Bath would be expensive for an average Saphan Khwai twink, but Alparslan can test the Chinese market with that price, no problem.

True. It’s the newest addition to the Aman family. Their new management is concentrating on urban hotels.

Good! Things change fast. It is not good to cling to customs and opinions of yesteryear.

Mandel spa has a milk bath program, this is an S place however.

I suspect I know who the guy is. A very chiselled guy indeed. He was reviewed here before while at FB and the client came within 5 minutes and was very happy. As a risk mitigating measure I usually off gay guys for side fun. However, I know this topic is very divisive on this forum.

This is actually a new development. When they opened over a year ago most of their twinks were tops and quite indistinguishable from the therapists from an average shop at Saphan Khwai. Now they have found a market niche.

They offer full service H if you ask but not all will bottom.

@jimmie50 The newly opened NOX spa in Sukhumvit has bath on the menu. Looking at their therapist list I recognise at least two from H type spas, but I do not know what kind of spa this is as I have not tested it. https://line.me/R/ti/p/@879oyqpw The owner or manager, Mark, used to work at Mandel spa.

I would suggest you consider Phnom Penh. Sun and Moon hotel which is right beside Space Hair Bar, short distance to Paradise massage and a tuktuk ride to Hatha Khmer massage or Ah Ram Massage. Note that PP is less commercial than Bangkok and that while you have host bars you may not be able to off anyone after hours. Siem Reap is far more touristy and more expensive compared to PP. My experience of the massage shops there is one where the masseur would constantly try to renegotiate tips.

I have stayed at Rambutan and it was pleasant. I also had two massages at A&P, which ranks among the best I have had in both Cambodia and Thailand, including one session of a four hand massage. Your mileage may vary and everything is subjective.