Owner is thinking of making it less of a Gay bar and more open to everybody.

It is doomed if he tries that-I for one do not like women in Gay Bars-even fag hags.

And we are talking female hosts as well.

If you stop in-tell them what a bad idea this is.

Owner is thinking of making it less of a Gay bar and more open to everybody.

It is doomed if he tries that-I for one do not like women in Gay Bars-even fag hags.

And we are talking female hosts as well.

If you stop in-tell them what a bad idea this is.

He must be kidding. His restaurant is located in a gay area and most of the patrons are gay. I don't like the woman hostess

I had heard this as well. It's a good example of someone not really understanding the market. He would have to change the name of the restaurant completely to do that. But I have to say with Micky's back, there would be an ideal alternative. In fact we had dinner at Micky's of all places last week and it wasn't bad for bar food.

He needs to do something at Numbers in any event because with all places change is occasionally required to keep things fresh.

Didn't they try that once before?

Well the shoe has dropped.As I predicted it does not look good

This is from the folks looking to rescue Numbers

"Numbers has been known as a hustler bar for 33 years, but the truth is bars down the street have more hustlers in a night than we do in a month. Your point about boys walking around in underwear is well taken, and we are NOT going to be having boys anymore on a regular basis. We are aiming to become more mainstream, and welcome anyone for a nice place to spend part or all of their evening. There will be only one night a week that will have boys and girls that will be dressed more risque, and that will be Saturday nights (used to be every Wednesday). It's called "Industry," and it's about porn stars. On that night the host will be fully clothed until around 10pm, and also please keep in mind they are part of the hosting and venue. They will be classed up, so it is not as skimpy as it use to be. Please keep this in mind, if you went to a cabaret show, you wouldn't take off your clothes just to fit in. You would still probably get dressed up to go out to that venue.

Our vision is to make it a special place where WeHo can be proud of once again. It was known as an iconic place where Hollywood socialites use to go, and have a great dinner and never be bothered. Our aim is to make it once again that, which it was world famous for. It wasn't all about hustlers even back then, it was known for fine food, great bar & restaurant, and a elegant safe haven for anyone and everyone"

No one asked them to send out boys in briefs.The Owner did that as a hook to promote his business and bring in customers.That did not work as well as he had hoped because a) the booking agency he used(Willem Belli)was lazy in his scheduling, b)the boys were payed little to nothing, c)the owners and Judy the Manager used very poor interpersonal skiils with the boys.The one night a week that really rocked were the the nights that someone else(Jason Seachrest or Brandon Baker)brought in some outside talent.

So best of luck to them.

Pricey drinks, expensive mediocre food,no real restaurant manager,hit or miss service,owned by straights,and now no eye candy?Please tell me why should I patronize this place?

PS-regarding those"Hollywood socialites"who used to patronize the place-they were never there for the food!

For some time now I have been complaining about the crappy food at Numbers, but it had tis defenders because of the availability of boys (to some). Now that that is gone, can we concede that Numbers wasn't really a restaurant at all?

I would not label everything they served as crap.There were a few dishes(all appetizers)that I thought were fine on the menu-and even fairly priced.And I know some of the other regulars had some dishes that were OK to their tastes.

However the few times I wandered away from my regular order I would be dissapointed.I remember being served a burger that was "off"and having to argue with the stupid cunt they have posing as a manageress.Having been around food and restaurants most of my adult life I just used that as further amunition(as if any was needed)that I would not deal with her again.She serves one purpose only IMO-to give Moz the owner something to look at.

I know some like the Salmon salad,others like the Pasta with Shrimp or Chicken.All of these are IMO overpriced for what they are.

I would like to know the name of the bar the letter above references-happy to move my dollars over there

I got a report last night of one of the regulars(very presentable working fella-he was one of the boys at our MER dinner last month)being asked to leave by the owner before he even sat down.

I will have to investigate this further but it does not sound good.