Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Gay Guides Forum

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

9/11 Memorial Tribute Misfires

Featured Replies

Visitors to the National September 11 Memorial Museum will see a large quotation on a wall.

03BLOCKSweb1-master675.jpg

But behind Virgil's quote is a story of blood and murder. The quotation reads: "No Day Shall Erase You From The Memory of Time" and is in reality a tribute to two dead soldier-lovers, Nisus and Euryalus.

Yet for the Museum, it encloses the some-8000 remains of unidentified victims of the World Trade Towers collapse, thus making it a central point for visitors.

Since Virgil's quote lionizes two dead soldiers, lovers, who have just annihilated an enemy camp, folks are wondering how appropriate it is for a memorial to civilian dead. The quote doesn't speak of a nameless "you," which in this case appears to mean the dead on 9/11. The two Trojan soldiers have just slaughtered the enemy "in an orgy of violence, skewering soldiers whom you ambushed in their sleep. For this, the enemy has killed you and impaled your heads on spears." Virgil, the Aeneid.

Naturally, there is some wiggling around by the Museum management, trying to say that this quote applies in this very different situation. Then there are those who think the quote is highly inappropriate. You can read the discussion here: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/03/nyregion/an-inscription-taken-out-of-poetic-context-and-placed-on-a-9-11-memorial.html?ref=nyregion

Nisus and Euryalus

Nisos_Euryalos_Louvre_LL450_n1.jpeg

More on the two lovers: http://www.madelinemiller.com/myth-of-the-week-nisus-and-euryalus/

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.