Goober Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 21 hours ago, stevenkesslar said: You left out an important word: cruel. Of course I left it out. MAGAts wear their cruelty as a badge if honor. Why would I give a MAGAt a high-five by mentioning a personality trait they're so proud to possess? I don't want to congratulate them for a job well done. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted 9 hours ago Author Members Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, bucknaway said: ba46b21ac17848a9019303b206738c2a.mp4 You really seem to enjoy cruelty. Am I wrong? I can only go by your barking. Which I assume was not what you did with your Biden-respecting mother. Do you not revel in cruelty? Because you seem to. You also revel in the lies and the bullshit and the bragging. And maybe the trick here is that cruelty is the price somebody else pays. So we won't make a big deal out of it like Thom Tillis did. Why talk about how Trump is betraying his promises? We'll just try to sweep it under the rug with a Tik Tok video. Hopefully voters are stupid and won't notice. America is great! Patriotism rocks! Why are Democrats such losers! Maybe some Black dude saying Trump is a man of his word. Even though he just betrayed his promises to the working class people who will go hungry and be kicked off their health care. So I am all for patriotism and airplanes and the troops. Trump's big military rally was a pretty easy show to pull off, given the money he had to spend. Woo hoo! I'm happy for the people that enjoyed it. Moral and political leadership is a whole different matter. You, like Trump, have no interest in it. You could care less. Sorry, but in complete fairness to you, you may not even have a clue as to what it means. If you do, you don't demonstrate it when you bark and lie and bullshit here. You're more like a mad, barking, clueless dog. When I watched your video I immediately thought of this video. Granted, the planes and tricks in your Tik Tok are cooler. But what is portrayed in my YouTube video is way cooler. It depicts one of the great acts of moral and political leadership of the 20th century. And you and Trump could care less. Like I said, you probably don't even get it. I'll say a few things about why my video is way cooler than your moral rot. Nelson Mandela was a real person, who did lead and unify South Africa. He did use sports, which he loved, as a metaphor for unity and civility. Matt Damon may be some Hollywood lib to own. But he portrayed a real White South African who was a great leader in his own way. Who helped move a nation, in addition to winning a trophy. Everything in this video, down to the plane flying over the stadium, is absolutely true. It's not just that you are incapable of leadership like this. Most people, including me, are not. It's that you probably don't even understand it. You just bark. Why I particularly like this scene from this movie, as a movie, is this was the very best of Clint Eastwood. A Republican who got up on a stage and spoke out for Mitt Romney in 2012. Granted, IMHO he kind of flubbed that schtick. But the fact that Eastwood would do this scene in this movie also speaks to the very best of America. Republican or Democrat, we all recognize and aspire to these great leaders, and these great aspirations, and unity, and trying to be a nation that is good. E Pluribus Unum. That is not what Trump is. It is not what Trump is trying to be. It is moral rot. It is cruelty. It is tax cuts to big donors and special laws for special interests. You seem to revel in. I'm happy for you. Enjoy your planes. And your barking. It fits right into this picture that the South African we are all talking about now is not Nelson Mandela, but Elon Musk. It is not about the best of us. It is about the worst of us. It is not about moral leadership. It is about moral rot. And thanks to you and him, I really am laughing my ass off. Thank you. It is kind to say this is Pavlov's dog. Pavlov's dog was actually smarter, even if it was all conditioning. Musk and Trump are a fucking train wreck. And it really would just be a very good black comedy, if there were not so much cruelty being hatched by their inane antics. At least with Trump I can say he has some idea what he is doing. You don't. And Musk for sure doesn't. He is a cruel if brilliant asshole just spinning out of control. But have fun barking. And your planes are cool. God bless the troops! Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted 9 hours ago Author Members Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, bucknaway said: ff7bdf17caa20e141a81a62c40a32c5c.mp4 Oh my God! We have smart Blacks now! When did we get smart Blacks? Can you believe it? We have smart Black people now. WTF? It must be thanks to Donald Trump. We used to have dumb ignorant Blacks. But maybe Democrats pushed dumb ignorant Blacks so far off the plantation that a precious few got a chance to go to Trump U, and get smart. Maybe that's it! 🤔 Again, thank you. I am just laughing my ass off. I love black comedy, no pun intended. This would be awesome black comedy, if it weren't so ignorant or cruel. Or both. And, to be clear, this Black dude is not cruel. Or Gay. He's just ignorant. But anyone who thinks that we suddenly have "conservative Gays" because trannies just pushed us over the edge kind of needs to study LGBTQ history. Oh, that's right. Like Black history and Toni Morrison, maybe it's illegal now. Shouldn't we just burn those books instead? Of course, it's the opposite. Being part of a massive and global and successful liberation movement actually kind of shifted the whole LGBTQ thing to the left. There have always been conservative Gays, like our Treasury Secretary. Maybe you could stop barking for a minute and do a kindness and educate our ignorant Black Straight Tik Tok wannabe. But you won't. Because your video is like instantaneous proof of concept. I say you are ignorant and don't have a clue. And you post a video within a minute confirming you are ignorant and don't have a clue. That's assuming you are Gay, and get around. Because anyone who is Gay and gets around would know this is bullshit. We've had conservative Gays for a long time. Like you. Do you not even know what you are, poor thing? Is it really that bad? Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted 8 hours ago Author Members Posted 8 hours ago 12 hours ago, Stable Genius said: Okay, on this I will disagree. I think the most objective way to put it is this way: this is a test. Trump, in his own words, won because of prices and the border. Meaning people were pissed. So he made promises to these people. And some of them for sure were just fulfilled, for a few years at least. No tax on tips, for example. He also promised not to fuck with their health care. So if Thom Tillis is right, Trump actually just betrayed that promise. And people are going to be super pissed for being betrayed. In fact, they already are. Some article I just read in the Wall Street Journal by Molly Ball said this is the most unpopular piece of legislation in 35 years. So we'll see. Quote The party’s legislative victory on Thursday was clouded by what many saw as darkening political prospects. Trump’s former ally Elon Musk said Republicans should hang their heads in shame for adding trillions to the deficit and vowed to primary them all. The president’s party typically loses seats in a midterm election, and Republicans under Trump have struggled to win when he isn’t on the ballot. In one scholar’s analysis, the megabill is the most unpopular piece of major legislation passed by either party in at least 35 years. I think you can say that the working class did vote against their own interests, and did worship billionaires like Musk. But "the working class" is a huge generalization. And if they did so, that was the effect of what they did, not the intention. I wouldn't say that, anyway. It makes me sound like a smug college-educated liberal looking down at them. I'd rather empathize with them because they were betrayed with lies and false promises. And will soon go hungry or lose their health care. I'd argue even young working class men who worshipped Musk did so more out of the aspirational sense that they would like to be rich like him. I have polls to prove this. It scared me that six months ago Musk seemed to be particularly popular with young men. Now he's not. Poor thing. What changed? Quote
