Fun American idea! Let's starve Iranians! Or better yet, incinerate them all!

[stevenkesslar]

 

 

Rant incoming.

I found that interview so depressing.  It's a brief interview.  But you don't have to watch it to get my point.

Most of the interviews I watch - and i watch lots of them - are of critics of Trump and the bombing.  So they are talking about why it's going badly.  And how this is empowering Iran's theocrats  in ways that will hurt American interests.  This includes people like John Bolton. Who would love to see regime change in Iran.  And would be even harder ass than Trump to achieve it. 

Even the presumably independent business-oriented experts on CNBC say it's now just a given that the Iranian regime Trump said he wanted to change will forever more have a level of influence over the Strait of Hormuz and the global flow of oil they never had before.  Recession, anyone?  Robert Pape goes a lot further and says Trump is turning Iran into a regional hegemon and fourth global power.  Who will ally with China and Russia against America and the West.  Although increasingly "Western" nations don't even want to associate themselves with what Trump's America wants or values.  They're all saying, "Let's go talk to China."

Walid Phares is a Lebanese-American conservative who was a paid consultant on Romney's 2012 campaign and Trump's 2016 campaign.  What's depressing about the interview to me is he keeps bringing it back to one thing:  the Iranian people.  As Bolton will say, they are the ones who don't like this regime.  And they are the ones who smart conservatives say we should have spent huge amounts of time and resources with, to lay the groundwork for change.  If we had any hope of seriously making things better for the Iranian people.  Which is not what Donald Trump gives a shit about.  He keeps saying, "We should take the oil."

Phares is less blunt than Bolton.  But he's saying the same thing, in my mind.  Instead of that, we have Donald Trump's impulses.  So the strategy to work with Iran's opposition or people is to get the brilliant idea of threatening to nuke them all.  Or blow up their power plants so they can starve to death.  Or so the theocrats retaliate by blowing up infrastructure all over the region so that Muslim people can't live there anymore.  This is what it is about today.  Pape argues that even the pro-democracy movement will be on the side of the regime now, simply because they don't want to get nuked or starve to death.

It's truly remarkable that Donald Trump has somehow managed to make George W. Bush and Dick Cheney look like master war strategists.  😱

And I think Mark Halperin got under my skin more than anything.  I truly respect him as one of a small group of very smart and well connected people who try very hard to look at it both ways.  But in this context, he basically gets to be the Ugly American.  Weeks after a war was started that we are losing, or at least that is empowering the theocrats in Iran we all despise, he asks what we can do to arm and train Iran's people.  Which of course even George W. Bush would have been planning to do months ago. 

Halperin often comes off as a Trump lackey these days.  A good and honest journalist who wasn't just trying to operate in Donald Trump's good graces might have asked, "Isn't it too late for organizing the opposition?  Isn't that precisely why Donald Trump really fucked this up badly?"

I'm glad Trump didn't even think of that, given his narcissism and lack of impulse control.  I'm pretty sure the generals told every other POTUS, including Bush and Trump 1.0, that if we try this it's just going to end very badly.  Including for the people of Iran.  So now what has to be delicately managed is how Trump can gracefully lose while he brags about winning.  If we are all lucky.

I hope Trump burns in hell forever.  He has unleashed hell on Iran, America, and the world.  He is a stupid, evil, and dangerous man.  And listening to smart people like these guys, who want to understand Trump and support him, just reinforces this to me.

 

 

 

 

 

[RockyRoadTravel]

On 4/24/2026 at 9:57 PM, stevenkesslar said:

 

 

Rant incoming.

I found that interview so depressing.  It's a brief interview.  But you don't have to watch it to get my point.

Most of the interviews I watch - and i watch lots of them - are of critics of Trump and the bombing.  So they are talking about why it's going badly.  And how this is empowering Iran's theocrats  in ways that will hurt American interests.  This includes people like John Bolton. Who would love to see regime change in Iran.  And would be even harder ass than Trump to achieve it. 

Even the presumably independent business-oriented experts on CNBC say it's now just a given that the Iranian regime Trump said he wanted to change will forever more have a level of influence over the Strait of Hormuz and the global flow of oil they never had before.  Recession, anyone?  Robert Pape goes a lot further and says Trump is turning Iran into a regional hegemon and fourth global power.  Who will ally with China and Russia against America and the West.  Although increasingly "Western" nations don't even want to associate themselves with what Trump's America wants or values.  They're all saying, "Let's go talk to China."

Walid Phares is a Lebanese-American conservative who was a paid consultant on Romney's 2012 campaign and Trump's 2016 campaign.  What's depressing about the interview to me is he keeps bringing it back to one thing:  the Iranian people.  As Bolton will say, they are the ones who don't like this regime.  And they are the ones who smart conservatives say we should have spent huge amounts of time and resources with, to lay the groundwork for change.  If we had any hope of seriously making things better for the Iranian people.  Which is not what Donald Trump gives a shit about.  He keeps saying, "We should take the oil."

Phares is less blunt than Bolton.  But he's saying the same thing, in my mind.  Instead of that, we have Donald Trump's impulses.  So the strategy to work with Iran's opposition or people is to get the brilliant idea of threatening to nuke them all.  Or blow up their power plants so they can starve to death.  Or so the theocrats retaliate by blowing up infrastructure all over the region so that Muslim people can't live there anymore.  This is what it is about today.  Pape argues that even the pro-democracy movement will be on the side of the regime now, simply because they don't want to get nuked or starve to death.

It's truly remarkable that Donald Trump has somehow managed to make George W. Bush and Dick Cheney look like master war strategists.  😱

And I think Mark Halperin got under my skin more than anything.  I truly respect him as one of a small group of very smart and well connected people who try very hard to look at it both ways.  But in this context, he basically gets to be the Ugly American.  Weeks after a war was started that we are losing, or at least that is empowering the theocrats in Iran we all despise, he asks what we can do to arm and train Iran's people.  Which of course even George W. Bush would have been planning to do months ago. 

Halperin often comes off as a Trump lackey these days.  A good and honest journalist who wasn't just trying to operate in Donald Trump's good graces might have asked, "Isn't it too late for organizing the opposition?  Isn't that precisely why Donald Trump really fucked this up badly?"

I'm glad Trump didn't even think of that, given his narcissism and lack of impulse control.  I'm pretty sure the generals told every other POTUS, including Bush and Trump 1.0, that if we try this it's just going to end very badly.  Including for the people of Iran.  So now what has to be delicately managed is how Trump can gracefully lose while he brags about winning.  If we are all lucky.

I hope Trump burns in hell forever.  He has unleashed hell on Iran, America, and the world.  He is a stupid, evil, and dangerous man.  And listening to smart people like these guys, who want to understand Trump and support him, just reinforces this to me.

 

 

 

 

 

And eight months later sill not have a deal.  Spiked inflation so that it's higher than when he came into office.  Spiked unemployment so that it's higher than when he came into office.  Tanked manufacturing, fewer jobs than when he came into office.  Gave the Iranians the Strait of Hormuz which they didn't control when he was elected.

And after 30+ billion dollars he doesn't have anything close to the deal that Obama reached 10 years ago, and stupid weak Incompetent tore up in 2017.  

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

And eight months later sill not have a deal.  Spiked inflation so that it's higher than when he came into office.  Spiked unemployment so that it's higher than when he came into office.  Tanked manufacturing, fewer jobs than when he came into office.  Gave the Iranians the Strait of Hormuz which they didn't control when he was elected.

And after 30+ billion dollars he doesn't have anything close to the deal that Obama reached 10 years ago, and stupid weak Incompetent tore up in 2017.  

 

But other than that, he's been a damn great President.   Right?

 

 

 

Right?

[RockyRoadTravel]

1 hour ago, stevenkesslar said:

 

But other than that, he's been a damn great President.   Right?

 

 

 

Right?

No Stevie. He's been a bad President.  A very bad President.  Like, probably, after Andrew Johnson, the worst President ever. And that is quite the feat being worse than Reagan.  

[Suckrates]

6 hours ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

No Stevie. He's been a bad President.  A very bad President.  Like, probably, after Andrew Johnson, the worst President ever. And that is quite the feat being worse than Reagan.  

But, but, but, EVERYTHING is bright , shiny and GOLD...  It's the Golden Age of America....Embrace the GLITZ, embrace the corruption, embrace the abuse !   

Stevie is NEVER wrong....   Trump is the GREATEST   

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Stevie is NEVER wrong.... 

Which is why you will always be my dearest and darlingest Sister In Cock.

But let's be honest for a minute.  In addition to being my much younger and prettier sibling, you are simply being way too kind.  💞

You of all people know all about my small handful of youthful transgressions.   And, if we're being honest, I guess there were quite a few not so youthful transgressions, too.

For example, the time I got involved in public service with that young and extremely well hung Oregon lawyer and state legislator comes to mind.  He had a thing for Mount Blanc pens, as well as having his penis sucked.  How could I be against pens and penis?  So I stole that Mount Blanc pen to impress him. 

Happily for you, Sis, Mamdani is a democratic socialist.  You provide public services according to your abilities.  We don't need Mount Blanc pens to provide public service to the well hung young generation of leaders.

But I digress.

This all of course comes to mind because of Ken Paxton, and the scandal involving the Mount Blanc pen.

 

The polls suggest Halperin is right, and Talarico will win.  One can hope.  

Simply proving that I am not always right, despite your kindler and gentler words about me.   All that glitters is not gold.  

And it is the nice thing about being an older and cheap whore, if we're really being honest.  They can't take our Mount Blanc pens away.  Or our virginity.  🫢

[stevenkesslar]

7 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

They can't take our Mount Blanc pens away. 

And just to prove I am a cheap and lying whore, it actually turns out you CAN steal a pen, on film, and get elected to the US Senate.

Watch how a future US Senator steals an expensive pen.  I guess we are all cheap whores at heart.

 

But there is a lesson to be learned.  Ethics and values do matter more than Mount Blanc pens.   Over 35 years after he won a Senate seat while stealing a pen, Penny Flanagan will lead Minnesota Democrats to victory in the US Senate with the same message about what really matters.

 

 

[Suckrates]

1 hour ago, stevenkesslar said:

Which is why you will always be my dearest and darlingest Sister In Cock.

But let's be honest for a minute.  In addition to being my much younger and prettier sibling, you are simply being way too kind.  💞

You of all people know all about my small handful of youthful transgressions.   And, if we're being honest, I guess there were quite a few not so youthful transgressions, too.

For example, the time I got involved in public service with that young and extremely well hung Oregon lawyer and state legislator comes to mind.  He had a thing for Mount Blanc pens, as well as having his penis sucked.  How could I be against pens and penis?  So I stole that Mount Blanc pen to impress him. 

Happily for you, Sis, Mamdani is a democratic socialist.  You provide public services according to your abilities.  We don't need Mount Blanc pens to provide public service to the well hung young generation of leaders.

But I digress.

This all of course comes to mind because of Ken Paxton, and the scandal involving the Mount Blanc pen.

 

The polls suggest Halperin is right, and Talarico will win.  One can hope.  

Simply proving that I am not always right, despite your kindler and gentler words about me.   All that glitters is not gold.  

And it is the nice thing about being an older and cheap whore, if we're really being honest.  They can't take our Mount Blanc pens away.  Or our virginity.  🫢

How can we discuss a MINOR infraction of stealing a pen, when we have Trump pilfering the US Treasury to its bare bones. ?....  Criminal Trump keeps coming up with aesthetic ideas for which he needs billions of our $$$$$  (now its to make war ships look tougher),  when the REAL reason is he wants to get his tiny little hands on all that loot, and redirect it to HIMSELF.......   Its all so COVERT, but transparent at the same time.....  And what Trump keeps telling us is that " ALL you American rubes are so weak and stupid that you keep allowing me to do whatever the fuck I want, and there aint nuthin you can do "   So a fucking pen is small potatoes.....  Question IS : will it SINK Paxton ?     NAH !     If all the MAGA's could, they would be stealing $1000 pens too......

The polls suggest this, and the polls suggest that, we've heard it all before,  the proof will be in the actual VOTE .....  And keep in mind there are people that voted Trump 3 times, and would vote again today......  Just look at all the cowardly GOP who publicly talked tough, but then voted to support Trump, and confirmed all his abhorrent cabinet nominations....with thinly veiled excuses...

I think as the Mids get closer, we are veering away from the ultimate GOAL of them,  to WIN both House and Senate to put some check and guardrails back on Trump & Co ?

Everything else is premature NOISE and only obfuscates the Midterm GOAL.   If Dems LOSE,