Dear oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Listen OP.
You are being far too nice and rather than being a cheapskate you are too generous. Others have given you detailed advice as above which I cannot disagree with.
The nub of the issue is you letting want-to-be Hi So Lao to control the relationship.
End it now politely but firmly and find another where you are in control.
There are plenty available!
Just my opinion:
As part of the process of "offing" a boy it is surely best to explain to him that before taking him back to your room will go together to other place or places e.g. DJ station or wherever.
And as and if appropriate adjust the fee to reflect the additional time.
Make sure he understands and agrees.
Usually I also get him to agree before offing him what is expected of him: versatile or otherwise.
No problem Peter RS.
If you listened to the whole of the broadcast in my opinion it gives some interesting insights into the mindset of some Thais...and may help us non Thais have a better understanding about them...call it pop culture or whatever...
But hey when u meet Thais in everyday life in say in Silom at night they will tell u all about the latest symphonies and architecture etc.....
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I recently listened to this podcast coming from Bangkok.
If you have the time its' worth a listen Some interesting culture especially in particular about ghosts and gays!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct6ztf
Last night Wednesday visited Rainbow Dragon. If already reviewed excuse me for that. Its a pub style bar with good air con and a very pleasant atmosphere. Shirtless boys doing the service. Good dance type music.
No idea what if any is off fee.
As I arrived early around 8pm they seemed to be just opening and as mid week less custom. With 2 companions x 3 drinks came to about 600 baht.
Nice tables facing the bar.
Good location it deserves to succeed.
Spent a few hours at the place and then went to Fresh Boys. We were the only customers! Having been at fresh boys at the previous Friday when it was full up shows that mid week tends to be very slow
Reasons why we pay for sex:
If a customer goes into a popular restaurant with delicious food no one would expect that person not to pay for the meal , right?
So?
Yes Thai people are respectful to Americans and gay people.
As others have in effect stated here try as best you can to do your homework: re living and accommodation, health insurance, taxation and all other financial issues.
Accept that things are different usually in a nice way than back home.
If you have sufficient money and health (or health care) plus the right attitude you can have a great time in Thailand!
A Thai bar owner in Pattaya found his LGBTQIA+ friend lying dead under his bed with a blue towel in his mouth, and his gold necklace, worth nearly 250,000 baht, was missing.
Gay Pattaya man found dead under bed, gold necklace missing | Thaiger
I will be in BKK after Songkran. Sometimes I like a massage but often its not worked out well as I am usually top but the masseur is not.
( have tried to ask ..but)
any place that actually designates before having a massage which masseur is T or B or both?
Thanks any help.
OP writes:
"These gay expats living around Jomtien must have high disposal income ?"
-Well maybe some of them in Jomtien do have high disposable income, but many of the expats who frequent Jomtien Complex look like extreme low life. Some are so short of funds they need to walk around the Complex talking to the boys but avoiding taking a seat at a bar else they need to pay for a drink.
And several of the boys are so desperate for cash that they will go with a foreigner for a tip of 500 baht.
And I have it on insider knowledge that a lot of those in Jomtien Complex are HIV positive. So for anyone wanting to off a boy from there, taking Prep and/or using a condom is essential.