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Sorry i havent update my report for a while. Like i mentioned before, two other like-minded guys will join me tonight to go to the bars. One guy is from KL, and will be address as such, which have been in contact with me about a year or so, mainly discussing boys in kl. We both have similar taste in boys, well at least body wise. I am more open to age and face wise, and more picky about body, but he is more picky on face and age, but more tolerable on body lol. But from time to time, we find boys that we both like a lot lol. He has been to bangkok few times and few years before me. He mentioned in one of our chat that he will be heading to bangkok end of year, even before i booked my flight ticket. So when i booked my ticket, i let him know that ill be visiting bangkok as well and he express that he would like to meet me. To which i say yes! After so long of anonymous texting, two KL guys finally meet in bangkok lol
The other guy i am meeting is from Brunei (BN). He posted in SG forum that he will be visiting bangkok during my visit so i pmed him for a possibility of meeting and do some things together. We chatted few more times before the flight, trying to plan some thingd to do since he will only be alone for slightly over 22 hour or so, from 10pm tonight until 8pm tomorrow. We even contemplating to go for tourist attraction together as well. And even after the trip is over, we are still in contact.
So that night after dinner, both guys updated me when they have landed and making their way to the hotel. KL will arrive earlier and we plan to meet at family mart soi twilight before heading to moonlight, a bar that ive told him about and share their fb, and he is very interested to go and visit this bar. We met around 10pm and waste no time and off to moonlight. I told BN to come to moonlight to join us when he arrived. He said he will take grab from his hotel.
So me and KL cross the road and went straight to moonlight counter, pay the entrance (480 - peak season price) and enter and pick our seat, in the center, not too close to the stage nor too far. Boys on stage are not impressive to both of us, and mamasan that served me before recognize me and start taking our drink order. I asked mamasan if they have more boys, and he said some boys are preparing for the shows. Anyway, i noticed one familiar face sitting down with customer in front of us, one of moonlighy model who have been quite the talk of the forum, the famous and infamous nicky lol. I told KL that is one of the model and he says not bad. Also introduce mamasan to KL as my friennd and mamasan asked if he has anyone he like. We said we want to look first and mamasan left us to attend to other customers. Show start a bit after 10:30pm, with few new numbers than my previous visit. Introduction to the model and model parade was as always the highlight of the show. Mamasan was next to us during this time, explaining to us which of the model are available and which wont do sex. KL immediately ask about the first model out, non other than Babe, no surprise that he is his first choice lol. Mamasan says babe dont go for sex with customer, and KL said to me, the one guy i wanted and i cannot have lol. He did mentioned he like two other guys that in the model parade, though he dont think he will pay that much for them, one is Tae if im not mistaken and another is a new model.
Around 10-15min after the show start, i go outside to check on BN and he has just messaged me that he is outside, so i say hi, told him how much is the entrance and escort him in, taking over the job of the mamasan lol. We saved him a seat next to me and continue to enjoy the show. One particular show that i really like is the one where babe is the main star, with two other model. Babe is lying on a makeshift bed, under a silk blanket/sheet, wearing a boxer, which he later removed but still under the sheet. Very sexy indeed. There is also dancr number by models, but some of the new model dance move looks a bit awkward, but overall the shows is very entertaining. There is a simulated sex show (no real penetration but clear expose penis), big cock show, and shower show at the end, unfortunately perform by regular boys, not the model.
Mamasan approach us again asking in between shows if we would like to buy drink for the boy, ive seen enough and didnt find one i really like, nor model that im willing to pay the high off fee and tips. I did asked mamasan if tam is around, he said he didnt come to work today but he can contact tam and asked for me. Good to know that he can do that for me but i really dont want to do that to the boy. He might already have a customer or too tired or have other things to do, hence he didnt come to work. On the other hand, KL asked mamasan to call nicky, and buy him a drink, and told me he will off nicky. But he wanted to visit his favorite bar first, and pickup nicky after that, so he settles with mamasan and i also tip mamasan, and we three make our way to soi twilight.
On entering soi twilight, the two hotmale muscular daddy grabber noticed me as well as KL, and try to get us to hot male as usual. Good thing they now focus on KL more than me since he is a veteran here, haha. We head to dreamboy upstairs and greeted by a mamasan that KL know for a long time already, and brought to the sofa seat against the wall. We arrived in the middle of the show after 11pm, probably the third last show with ladyboy lip-sync and some really good dancer. The next number is the boy dance, and ended with the glow in the dark dance number. KL asked mamasan if there is any new muscular guy on offer other than on the stage in between show, mamasan say got but many customer took already. Anyway, after show ends, mamasan usher us to down stair, boys bangkok bar where boys will move down, and there will be another shows as well. No need to buy another drink. We move down, and seat second row from the stage.
Now boys from dreamboys also on stage together with boys from this bar. I asked mamasan about my previous off #44, mamasan went and bring a guy that wears that number but not my guy. Actually i already know #44 that i took already quit working in bar, since i texted him before i come. I did asked if we can still meet, and he says not sure since he might be going back home. Close to my departure to bkk, i asked again and he says he is at his hometown, so i wont be seeing him again this trip. Anyway, me asking mamasan about #44 is just me hoping for a miracle that my guy is still around. I dont even think if my guy really appear in front of me, what id do or talk about lol. Itll be one awkward situation for sure hahaha. Anyway, back to boy on stage. KL showed me one guy he always flirt with but never took because the guy didnt go out with guys, only women. I know this guy from previous trip as #44 also told me similar thing. I also saw another guy, that is also muscular, nice face and body, fair skin. He has been mentioned in some other trip reports too (drimvoiz report). KL also knew the guy and recommended him to me as well. BN also seems to like this guy too lol. Anyway, i called mamasan, and asked if i can take him long time, mamasan asked the boy he quoted a price. Too high for me and BN too, so i said to mamasan i have a look again.
Noticed another guy, look a bit innocent and shy, not as big as the first guy, but nice chest. BN also seems to like him as well lol so i guess we both have similar taste in boys haha. Since its BN first visit to bar, i let him choose first, but he seems undecided, maybe a bit nervous as well. I called mamasan again, and asked tell the first guy again what i am willing to pay for long time and he told the boy and he agreed, so he come down and sit with me, and i buy him a drink, since i want him to sit with me and watch the show. Show starts around 12.15 or so and it is quite entertaining as well. A good screwboys alternative for late night show. There is lady boy show, which is funny, and some dance number by same dreamboys dancer. And it ended with a big dick costume worn by a guy, who remain under a cover flaccid state. And other boys worshipping/dancing around until it rise up and start squirting water all over the front seats. Before this happened, my guy warned us and asked us to go to the back seats which is empty, and we did. Brownie points for this guy lol I asked if he kisses, and a kiss landed on my lips as answer. Good start, and he is also very handy touchy with me in bar too. Also a good sign lol. By the way, before i took him, i asked BN first and he says what im willing to pay is still too high for him so he says he will choose different guy. After the show finished, KL excuse himself, as he needs to pick up nicky, and me and BN stays. BN asked mamasan about the second guy, long time, agreed on tip and called this guy to sit with him.
After all is done, both boys excused themselve to change cloth, mamasan comes to check the bin and we pay the dues and head out to surawong. My guy asked if we can go to family mart, sure. He bought some drinks and food, and so does BN's guy. As we go out, he ask me to wait as he want to buy another food across the road, from street food. We then says goodbye to BN and his guy, where he order grab back to his hotel and me and mine up to raya. In the room, my guy delivers everything agreed and then some. One of the best kisser lol, really strong, really deep kissing. We also shower together before and after and in the morning too. Definitely candidate for repeat, not this trip but future trip. Also no objection to cuddling after. In the morning, he didnt want to stay for breakfast but still leaves around 7-8am, so i went to breakfast after i sent him off. I went back to hotel after breakfast and dozed off again.
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Came office rather late today, so i have to stay longer to make up time, thanks to flexible working hour. Had one of the most deserving sleep yesterday, and only wake up at 8am lol. First day at job went ok, i guess some of the joy from my holiday still havent totally left my body and mind yet.
Its funny to think back that when i decided to go to thailand this time of year. Like i said earlier, it wasnt planned. I have been delaying using my annual leaves, and company policy only allows certain amount of vacation day to be carry over to this year, so i have to away from office regardless. I have been from time to time trying to find what or where should i spent my vacation days for few weeks, but prices of flight and hotels has always been very expensive during christmas and new year. So when i finally booked my plane ticket, i make sure all the hotels that i wanted have available rooms at reasonable price first, and done my entire hotel and flight booking within minutes of each other. I still paid a hefty sum for flight, doubled than normal price, quadruple the promotion price, but i do believe i got good price still for my hotels accomodations for 9nights (4 in bangkok and 5 in pattaya) hence thats why i pulled the trigger.
I fly with royal jordanian, which make a stop over in bangkok before flying out to amman, and i have to say the flight is great, comfortable economy seats, delicious food (only at during flight going back home which makes me regret not eating during the journey to bangkok) and i even contemplating getting their business seat for a tad more, but for a two hour flight, i figure id better spend them on boys. Plane arrived at suvarnabhumi early, just 23:05, from the scheduled 23:20. Went out of immigration and got my bag and into the art around 23:45, not bad. Arrived in Phyathai station and BTS has closed. So i walked to the main road, saw few taxi drivers and motorsai waiting, decided to ignore them and wave a passing taxi instead, and got one that agrees to use meter on first try. Arrived at raya a bit after midnight, checked in, and freshen up a bit before going out to one of the bars that open quite late in bangkok, screwboys, and as mentioned in the other thread, is having a christmas eve party.
I arrive probably 00:45, walked in, and quite a surprise that no mamasan escorting me in and finding me seat. So i walked inside and trying to find a seat myself, and there isnt one lol. The bars is packed with customers and many boys also sitting with customers too. Same quality of boys as my last visit, mostly slim smaller frame boys, with few a bit meaty boys, but no muscular type. Finally one mamasan asked me if i already has a seat and i said no, and she brings me to the back near the bar, and get me a stool, sitting in the corner just enough for me to see the stage. Drink price is 350 on the menu, but when the bill comes, mamasan says 300, i give you discount. I worked during the day before flying tonight, so i am a bit tired, and not looking to go to any other bar, so i stay, despite the heavy smoke smells, to find the best candidate for me. All the boys on stage in their underwear doesnt entice me at all. From time to time, i see boys in white shirt and jeans walking in and out of bars, probably to smoke outside or chat or get customer. And finally i saw one guy who is wearing tshirt and jeans with a face that i like and has some figures that i like. However i saw him just passing through to the bathroom/boys changing area and disappear. So i keep watching the stage with boys on rotation, hoping for that guy to finally go on the stage and he never did. Mamasan, very busy on her own, comes to me few times very briefly asking if i like any boy and says some boys is good some boy is useless lol, and once i said not yet, she left me alone.
I was about to lose hope when finally the guy i had my eye on appear again, this time walking towards the door. Mamasan was next to me when i pointed to him, asking mamasan if he is one of the boy i can take. Mamasan pointed to him to ask if she gets the right guy and i said yes and call him to me, and he comes and immedeately planted behind me with a hug. Bought him a drink and mamasan says jokingly this boy is not good, he is best. And he do everything lol. Asked him if he does long time and he said yes. Agreed on the tip and off we go to our room. Everything is great in the room, and i finally gets the long time treatment ive longed for in thailand. The boy said he is from vietnam. At the bar, he wasnt wearing number nor does he get naked on stage, so i asked if he has number he said yes and asked why he didnt get on stage, he says he dont like to be in underwear lol. Not my first vietnam boy, but first vietnam boy in thailand i think. And i know some here has issues with some vietnam boys, this guy is great with me. He do what i want him to, and we did have another session in the morning too before he left in the morning after breakfast. He did when staying with me, and this happened after all service is done but before breakfast, telling me his stomach is hurting and he has medicine in the room. I asked if he wants to get breakfast and he says yes, so we go to have breakfast at hotel and i sent him off after, which is around 8am or so. So i do think he is genuinely sick, and not an excuse to leave early as 8am isnt early for me for long time session. After i sent him off with tips, dont recall any request of taxi money etc, i went back to hotel and get some more sleep. I woke up probably noonish. Great start of my trip, taking a boy that i dont normally take usually on long trip from a bar i dont usually go or stay long. Will i repeat him again, yes especially if i arrived late again and most of the other bars are already close.
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ct2005 got a reaction from hank75 in Tawan - Bodybuilding seasonI would say that Tawan consists of mostly men who might have past their prime years for bodybuilding competition. Given that participating in bodybuilding competition is much hard work & costly, only very few are actually doing it.
All others ... the hardworking ones will try to stay in shape by exercising regularly while the older daddies are not doing much to trim the fats from their bulky frame. Unless you know the guy you like is training for competition, I feel it doesn't really matters much whether it is bodybuilding season or not.
But it has been a year since I visited Tawan ... things might have changed.
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ct2005 reacted to Terry4 in Ever been scared in Thailand?Having coffee with a friend today I mentioned my next trip will be to the Phillipines,immediately he started ranting about street crime etc etc and how safe Thailand is particularly Pattaya compared to most tourist places of the World.
And i have to admit he is probably right.
I have never really felt threatened in Thailand particularly Pattaya.
I have been scared or a little fearful though mostly when walking thru straight farang areas particularly in the early hours.
I made the mistake once of walking through Walking street in the very early hours getting a few shoulder hits by drunk farangs walking past wanting to look for a fight ,luckily im a coward and apologised to them before scampering off with my head down.
The onky time i was probaly truly scared was a few years ago I was in a situation in a baht bus where 3 young farang hoodlums got on sitting opposite me in the early hours , All shouting out obscenties to passers by walking on the street, and carrying on like pork chops , spitting on the seats etc
I had my right foot out a little and one of them thought it would be funny to grab my thong and take it off, and then dared me to get it back and all thought it was funny,i decided to get off minus a thong,as i was getting off and walking to the passenger to pay he threw it at me hitting my head,
Only later did i realise how stupid i had been departing at that time up past Mr Macs hotel on the way to jomtien,in was in the midfle of no where and no one around at that time,had i responded to them they may have gotten off and gave me a bashing, but u dont think to exit somewhere like a 711 at the time.
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Apart from those incidents never had any fear .
I think compared to other places Pattaya is very safe,
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ct2005 reacted to vinapu in Arab starts fight in Boyztosn Pattayanow those who are finding presence of Arabs in Sunee offensive are somewhat vindicated and justified in their opinion .
This is what happens when people living in the cage of their closeted and oppressive countries get some fresh air travelling somewhere else - they choke on it unleashed.
For getting drunk he hopefully receives well deserved 57 lashes upon return home.
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ct2005 reacted to CurtisD in Are you going bareback now.?Ok, probability is tricky and as lwh101 pointed out I got it a bit wrong in my last post (mixing up probability of contracting HIV with probability of exposure to it), so here goes with what I hope is both a clear and an accurate explanation.
The probability of a single event and the probability of multiple events are different things.
Use the toss of a coin as an example. The odds of heads or tails are 50% on each toss. The odds of heads on any single occasion, the first toss of the coin or the 20th toss, is always 50%. However, the odds of any particular sequence of heads or tails over multiple tosses is very different. The odds of six straight heads in a row is not 50%, the odds of heads on each separate toss, but 50%-to-the-power-of-6, which is 15.6%. If you are a gambler, you would give 50% odds on the outcome of a single toss, but if you gave 50% odds on the outcome of six-in-a-row you would be taken to the cleaners.
It is the same with PrEP. The odds of PrEP blocking the virus on each individual occasion are 92%, but the odds of PreP blocking the virus every time on n occasions are 92%-to-the-power-of-n. As 92% is < 1, the larger n is, the smaller 92%-to-the-power-of-n becomes.
However, this whole thing is a lot more complex than just the success or failure rate of PrEP.
We have three variables in play (my mistake in my last post was to stop at two variables, the problem of responding in the moment rather than thinking it out a bit more).
a) The probability of PrEP blocking the virus. 92%.
b) The probability of having sex with someone who is poz. This varies with the population. In the Thai gay male population generally, 30%.
c) The probability of contracting the virus from a poz partner on any single occasion. This ranges from 33% for someone with a full viral load to a very low number for someone on meds who has managed their condition to an undetectable load.
As there are three variables, as the variation in the last one is pretty wide and as there are also other factors at play which affect the probability (How regularly is PrEP used? Presence of another STD which increases the probability of HIV transmission? Type of sexual encounter?) I am not going to try to estimate the probability of contracting HIV if PrEP fails in Thailand as it would be a very subjective and possibly misleading number.
Rather, the two tables below give an idea of the degree to which PrEP provides additional protection. Whether this is enough for you to feel confident in using it will I think depend on your personal risk tolerance, the time horizon over which you are thinking and the number of sexual encounters you expect to have over that time horizon.
The first table looks at the general risk of PrEP failing during extended use. This is simply the probability of PrEP failing, not the risk of exposure or contracting the virus.
The second table looks at the risk during extended use in the Thai gay population of PrEP failing during an encounter with a poz partner. This is the risk of potential exposure to a poz partner but not the risk of infection as that risk additionally depends on the viral load of the partner.
What this shows is that while the chances of PrEP failing to work during sex with a poz partner are small on any single occasion, cumulatively over time the more sexually active you are the more likely it is that PrEP will fail on you at least once with a poz partner.
This is the sort of risk best thought about over a long time frame, not this week’s party planning. If you are 20, how many sexual encounters do you expect to have had by 30? By 40? By 50?
(1) Probability of PrEP failing to block PrEP Generally Interpretation
Probability of blocking / not blocking 92% / 8% In any single encounter the probability of PrEP
on a single occasion failing to block is 8%
Number of sexual encounters before the
probability of failure to block rises just above 50% 8 to 9 After 8 to 9 encounters the cumulative
probability of PrEP failing to block at least once is
just over 50%
Number of sexual encounters before the probability 60 After 60 encounters the cumulative probability of
of failure to block rises to just over 99% PrEP failing to block at least once is just over 99%
(2) Probability of exposure to a poz partner PrEP in Thai gay male Interpretation
Population, 30% poz rate
Probability of not exposure / exposure to a 97% / 3% In any single encounter the probability of both
poz partner on a single occasion (i) PrEP fails and (ii) your partner is poz, is 3%
Number of sexual encounters before the 22 to 23 After 22 encounters in a 30% poz population the
probability of (i) PrEP failing with (ii) a poz the probability that (i) PrEP fails during (ii) an
partner, rises to just over 50% encounter with a poz partner is just over 50%.
This is not the same as the probability of
Infection which depends additionally on the viral
load of your partner.
Number of sexual encounters before the 160 After 160 encounters the probability that you
probability of exposure to a poz partner have been exposed to a poz partner is just over
rises to just over 99% 99%. This is not the same as the probability of
infection which depends additionally on the
viral load of your partner.
The third table tries to get more of a handle on the additional protection provided by PrEP by comparing unprotected sex and bareback sex with PrEP in the riskiest case: sex with only a poz partner with a high viral load. In this case it is possible to estimate the probability of contracting HIV.
With PrEP the cumulative risk of infection is lower – 27 encounters to increase the risk of infection to over 50% as opposed to 2 without PrEP and 160 encounters before the probability of infection rises above 99% compared to 60 without PrEP.
Again, while PrEP clearly lowers the risk, it is a risk that needs to be considered over the long term. Over what time period are you thinking of using PrEP in otherwise unprotected sex and how many encounters will you have in that time period?
(3) Sex with high viral load partner Unprotected sex with PrEP + bareback
a high viral load partner with a high viral load partner
Probability of not contracting / contracting
HIV on a single occasion 66.6% / 33.3% 97.4% / 2.6%
Number of sexual encounters before the
probability of contraction rises to just over 50% 2 26 to 27
Number of sexual encounters before the
probability of contraction rises to just over 99% 60 160
For myself, until there is a cure for AIDs, I will view PrEP as a very useful supplement to safe sex, but not safe sex by itself.
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ct2005 got a reaction from halfhansum in Are you going bareback now.?A "trick" question to ponder ...
Given that the infection probability (as mentioned) is low for a single encounter for those people on Prep but will be much higher for multiple encounters, how is it that a similar low starting winning probability in casino will get even lower over time? Shouldn't it be the case that the winning probability goes up for multiple bets?
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ct2005 reacted to CurtisD in Are you going bareback now.?It takes some self-restraint to write this with pen and ink rather than something more caustic.
I am part of the age-cohort of gay men most impacted by AIDs in which 42% of white males and 60% of black males, around 50% in total, have contracted HIV by age 50. Several friends are researchers who have made a contribution to containing the disease. So I have a certain perspective which I do not think is, as yet, overtaken by events.
PrEP is a very valuable medication to prevent transmission in the case of mishaps and oversights. That is why it was approved by WHO. It has up to a 92% ability to prevent transmission of HIV when used on a daily basis. However, its effectiveness is dependent on proper and regular use. Properly used daily, it has an 8% failure rate, which rises as high as 56% with erratic use. Let’s assume we are reasonably reliable people and the failure rate in our case is 10%. Much as I fondly remember the sensation of unprotected sex, a 10% chance of a loaded chamber is too close to Russian Roulette for me to consider dancing with gay abandon and declaring “rubbers away!”
Then consider the cumulative probability of contracting HIV with a 10% prophylactic failure rate in population which is approximately 30% poz. The chance of contracting HIV on any one occasion is 10%x30%=3%. The chance of avoiding contracting HIV on multiple occasions with multiple random partners drawn from this population is 97%-to-the-power-of-n, where n is the number of partners you sleep with. The chance of contracting HIV at least one time is 1-(97%-to-the-power-of-n).
Here are the odds of contracting HIV over multiple partners:
# Partners Prob of No Infection Prob of Infection
1 a moment’s forgetfulness 97% 3%
7 a relaxed week in Boystown 81% 19%
14 an energetic week 65% 35%
28 a repeat visit 43% 57%
58 a third visit 18% 82%
100 a dedicated orgiastic month 4.75% 95.25%
There is no cure for HIV. It can be managed, but once you contract it you have it for life. If you are responsible that means telling every potential partner, before you have sex, that you are poz. It is a non-curable potentially deadly communicable disease. They have the right to make the choice.
I never want to repeat the harrowing lunch I had with a young friend whose partner had convinced him that as they were in a monogamous relationship they could forego safe sex, only to give him HIV.
Additionally, PrEP provides no protection against general STDs – syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes etc. If you had unprotected sex with a single other person in a remote Bavarian village, the potential for contagion would be de minimis. By having unprotected sex with multiple partners who themselves have sex with multiple partners, who then have sex with multiple partners, etc (gay Bangkok in other words) you are establishing yourself as a vector for contagion. Not a life-goal.
And finally, but far from least, the boys. All the ones I have offed for many years have understood safe sex and want to practice it. I respect that wish. I think we should all respect it.
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ct2005 reacted to spoon in Are you going bareback now.?Even with prep, u are only "protected" from HIV and not from other STI (like gonorhea, syphlis, chlamydia etc), which some can be fatal too. Stick with condom unless u went monogamous with known disease-free faithful partner.
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ct2005 reacted to spoon in Thailand to Nepal and back againAwesome story and trip reports! I am very fond of nepalese hunks who work in my country. Ive had my fair share with them and there are all hot. Although over hear, most of them are straight, and only in it for the money, they treat their customers well. And even in one case, i tried some new nepalese guy, who ends up rushing things, i chatted with him a bit, when resting, about some of other nepalese ive come to know and it turns out some are his friends, and he treats me differently after lol. I miss one of my favorite guy from there, last i heard he was caught by the authority here in a raid due to not having a valid travelling document in may and i havent heard anything from him since.
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ct2005 reacted to Finnseventy in Thailand to Nepal and back againHey guys, please indulge a brief trip report from a recent diversion from Thailand to Nepal...
After spending June in Pattaya I left for Nepal to spend a month with my boyfriend Adhik exploring this incredible country.
Kathmandu is as crazy and as mystical as ever. Real hippies may still be found roaming the streets of Thamel. I emerge from the airport terminal building to be pounced upon Adhik and his cousin Shabby, two of the best looking gay guys you could ever hope to meet. It is a tolerant place for gay people, but the locals are conservative and the scene is largely underground. Four star hotels are cheap here and we check in downtown, happily accepting an upgrade to an executive suite.
Later we are joined by another good friend Chang, a stunner from the mongolian side of the ethnic divide, whose excellent English leads to many rambling conversations. English is like a second language here.
An impromptu party, alcohol is consumed and its four in a bed until morning. Sore heads try to remember who sucked who but it doesn't matter, no-one was left out.
Adhik is busy during the day so I connect with a nineteen year old football player on Grindr. Bang is slim, handsome and full of energy, he fast becomes a bedtime favourite. He is inexperienced, having been with just one guy previously, and happy to play sub to my dom. We connect well and meet again and again. I didn't spot the emotional attachment coming. There are tears and I feel like a crass insensitive foreigner. I am not proud of myself.
Adhik is finally free to holiday so we pull up our tent and move to the beautiful city of Pokhara, in the foothills of the Himalayas. Our balcony provides breathtaking views of the Annapurna range and Lake Phewa nearby.
We are entertained by a group of traditional musicians in the hotel restaurant. A cute and very athletic dancer turns pirouettes and captivates his audience. He is nineteen and he joins us in our room for afters. We each top him in turn. There just aren't enough bottoms in Nepal.
Adhik's mother and sister arrive to join us for a few days holiday. They are gracious and warm in the Nepalese way and I feel as if I have gained a family. The days are taken up with the standard tourist fare - boating on the lake, clubing in Lakeside, jumping off Sarangkot mountain on a paraglider. Great memories are created together.
Then Chang makes the journey from Kathmandu to join us. We continue our rambling conversations on the meaning of life and everything over coffee on the roof terrace of the hotel. I return to the room from a swim in the pool to find the two guys taking naked pics of each other with my mobile phone. I am surprised when Chang presents the phone to me - 'it is our gift to you' - I accept their gift.
Next we take to the trekking trails in the nearby Anapurnas. However the combination of monsoon rain and an army of leeches turns it into an ordeal. I take a tumble while descending wet steps and suffer some minor abrasions. The mountains remain stubbornly hidden behind a veil of cloud. It is a relief to get back to Pokhara.
The weather lifts and we get back out to the countryside where the countless waterfalls provide us with opportunities to cool off from the midday heat.
One evening we are socialising with two of Adhik's gay friends in the Busy Bee nightclub in Lakeside. They have excellent English and are considerate to include me in the conversation. Pen is 23 and shares some of his experiences as a young gay guy growing up in Nepal. As the evening draws to a close he opens his shirt to show a bandage on his neck which he peels off. A jagged scar marks an attempt by his ex-boyfriend to cut his throat. He is single now.
After twelve days in Pokhara we fly back to Kathmandu on Yeti Air. Time flies by as the bustle and hassle of city life keeps us busy but there's still time to kick back with friends in Pink Tiffany, the friendliest of the gay-friendly bars in Kathmandu.
Nepal always beats me up a bit. As I sit typing this report my heading is swimming with the mother of all colds. The scabs on my knees and hands from the fall on the trekking trail are healing well. My feet and ankles are pock marked with the welts left by leech bites - I know from experience they will still be visible in a year's time - however I am grateful that they didn't succeed in feeding any higher up. I have heard the horror stories of those who were not so lucky.
It is my last day here before returning to the incomparable delights of Pattaya to finish out my Asian Summer. There will be a small room party with Adhik and Shabby later but I have some unfinished business, I am not happy with how Bang and I parted company. After a week of evasive chats online he has agreed to meet over a coffee. I hope at least to be able to part as friends. I have learned that a friend made in Nepal is a friend for life.
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ct2005 reacted to DivineMadman in APP. USAGEDifferent people will invariably have different answers on this one. Here's my two cents. In Bangkok it's Hornet, Blued and Grindr. Hornet is still number one. There's some activity on the Romeo/Planet Romeo app but not as much, and most of those guys are also on the other apps. I pretty much ignore it. There's also activity on the others (Jack'd, etc.,) but not as much. If you like spending time on the apps then of course download and try them all. If you want to focus your efforts, in Bangkok it's those big three and I find Hornet more than enough.
FYI - Without having done a scientific survey, I think most of the activity in Bangkok is non-commercial. So a little tact is in order or just wait for them to contact you. My only issue with Blued is a lot of contact from guys very, very, very far way.
Outside Bangkok -- with the exception Pattaya -- it's the same with I think less Blued activity. (So Hornet and Grindr).
In Vietnam and Cambodia and Bali, Hornet works for me. I'm sure Grindr and Blued also, just haven't tried and I'm not really a fan of Grindr anyway
I don't spend enough time in Pattaya to venture an opinion.
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Day 2.25: Under Moonlight, Redux
I was lying in bed when Shan Boy opened my hotel room door with the key I gave him. He sees me and goes toward me and gives me a kiss on the lips. He then looks around the room and proceeds to tidy up. He puts all my shoes neatly by the narrow corridor to the door. He folds all my clothes just tossed around by me earlier, and places them neatly in a pile in the corner. He goes to the bathroom and arranges my toiletries and toothbrush to give a sense of order to the sink counter. He asks me if I wanted a water. I answer yes. He opens a bottle and puts it beside me on the side table.
I think I have stumbled on a winning formula for me in Bangkok. If the money is right, it is nice to have a steady boy with you, who isn’t fussy and high maintenance like some out there, who has an eye for your needs while staying in the city, and of course will be there for more sexy or carnal endeavors if the need arises, and is patient enough if you decide on meeting others while staying with you. Shan Boy continues to play the “butler” that I didn’t think I need this trip.
Shan Boy reminds me that we needed to go back to Excelsior tailors to get my first fitting for my suits. Such a good butler. We head over to Surawong to get to the tailors. They had the suit jackets ready for me to do a fitting. Some adjustments needed to be made but nothing major. The pants were a perfect fit, and no need to adjust them any further. They tell me everything will be ready tomorrow. I ask again if I should pay now. They tell me to pay tomorrow. Such a lax policy.
On the way back, I tell Shan Boy what I needed to happen tonight. I wanted to go to Moonlight early to off the Cambodian, leaving me with more options to go to other bars later tonight. Shan Boy asks me if I wanted a “3-boy night” again. I told him I was not planning to, but we can see where the night leads me. Since I’ve already seen the show in Moonlight (and even if I really want to see those sexy superstar boys again), I wanted to check out other bars this second night. Since it will be past 10 when I am done with Cambodian, I need to go to a bar that had shows late. Screw Boys comes to mind, as probably other bars that have second shows that happen after the initial main show.
I didn’t feel super hungry just yet but figured with the exertions I was going to do tonight I should probably eat something. It was almost 7 PM so I decided to take Shan Boy to the Crowne Plaza lounge again for some small plate food. Since it came with the room free with the upgrade I might as well take advantage of it. The bad thing about Crowne Plaza is that it has slowly become more and more expensive to stay here every time I visit. I remember a time when a basic room cost around 2000 baht. Nowadays, you’d be hard pressed to find something less than 4000 baht in the weekends. But still, for short-timers like me, who only stay a max of one week, Crowne Plaza sure beats anything else in Silom for me.
We get to the lounge and see that it was more populated than usual. It is true that the hotel is fairly popular with the Japanese, and this afternoon was no exception. Most of them were just by themselves, and two had girls with them, presumably working girls, judging by their demeanor and such. Another point for the Crowne Plaza. Me and Shan Boy fit right in. We sat down and immediately got asked for our drink orders. I had a coffee and Shan Boy had a Heineken. We go to the buffet area and got ourselves some chicken skewers and sushi and pasta and bread. It was a pretty good spread for something included free in the room. Shan Boy had another beer. I had another coffee.
When we were finished I asked Shan Boy if we could fool around a bit before I head out to Moonlight. We get to the room and Shan Boy immediately takes off all his clothes and lays me down the bed to kiss me. He starts taking off my clothes as well and then sucks me off. We just enjoy each other’s closeness and company. I admire his tight and smooth body the way I’ve always had: enjoy his nipples, his cock, and rim his perfect ass. I didn’t cum, because I wanted to save it for the night ahead. He jacked himself off and came on my chest. He almost knew what I wanted. The perfect butler.
It was 9 PM so it was time to go. I tell Shan Boy that I am going to Moonlight to off the Cambodian. He flashed three fingers at me: “You off three boy again?” I laugh. He again teases me for being greedy. “Maybe,” I tell him. I was not sure yet. Who knows what the night will bring. That was the beauty of it, the uncertainty I tell him to again stay at Freshboys to wait for me while I go to Moonlight to fetch my boy. We head over down to Soi Twilight so I could pay his off fee for the night. At 9 PM on a Saturday night the streets were a little bit subdued. Low season blues still. I guess it is a buyer’s night tonight. Let’s see how I do.
I get pushed and pulled by the usual touts on the way to Freshboys but I am so used to that by now. I head in to Freshboys and hand my usual mamasan the 500 baht for the off fee, and another 50 baht, telling the mamasan to “Take care of Shan Boy tonight.” She nods and asks if I was staying for the show. I told her I was going to another bar. She frowned a little bit but recovered immediately and smiled and asked me what bar. “Moonlight,” I say. She bids me good luck as I exit the bar. Lots of cute boys in there. But my heart was elsewhere.
I get to Moonlight and paid my usual 300 baht drink-cover fee and head into the establishment. There were a total of 5 customers in the bar, but it was only 915 PM. The stage had about 4 boys at a time, rotating to the beat of the music. After 5 minutes my usual captain greets me, and looks happy to see me (probably sees dollar signs). I tell him my drink, and tell him to get a drink for him as well, since he has been so helpful earlier about the information on the superstars of the bar. He asks me about my day. I tell him the truth. He had some fairly useful information for me about my errands today.
All of a sudden I get accosted again. It was Mon Boy, in his Moonlight gear. He looked really happy to see me. He tells me about his zoo visit with his family today, and shows me some photos of his photogenic family. He tells me it was a shame that I could not come with them today. I was kind of regretful that I didn’t go. But I had shit to do. I ask him if he wanted a drink. He tells me to not bother and to save my money.
The captain then leaves his seat next to me and a handsome boy sits in his place. It was the Cambodian that was promised to me yesterday. I shake his hand. He was in his usual Moonlight tank top and briefs and was looking pretty sexy and handsome. He was tall, and his bulge and ass were prominent features in his briefs. He has long curly hair, made up fashionably. He gives me a kiss on the cheek and asks the formalities, name, country, how long was my stay, all that good stuff. He then sit down and asks me if I could order him a drink. I ask the captain to do so. Cambodia boy was fairly professional. He knew how to do this.
Just as we all got settled, and with Mon Boy not leaving my side, and not even going on stage, the boys on stage left and then the host from yesterday came on. He was there to introduce the superstars of the bar. One by one he called on the superstars (they were called Mister something, all of them). There was also a short interview with each boy, and most spoke some English. Even the fabled Mr Tam was there too, and he spoke some canned English phrases. All the superstar boys were very handsome, and sexy, and with abs and pectorals for days. I could see myself offing them, money be damned. I thought for a minute about ditching my two boys and just getting one of those hunks.
And then the Russian money boy, the farang superstar, Mr. Igor, went onstage. Man, was his body to die for. He was built, handsome, and had an air of confidence in him. I wonder if indeed he cannot be offed, like the captain said. Probably not a good sex experience with this one, if he is straight, but the visuals were nice. He spoke English pretty well and bid everyone at the bar a good time.
I didn’t want to stay too long in the bar. I had other plans after my first initial roll in the hay. I was hell-bent on offing the Cambodian. But Mon Boy was still here. I tell Mon Boy that I was going to off the Cambodian, and then asked him if I offed him too, we can do a threesome. Mon Boy immediately nods. I didn’t think he would go for that, since he said last night that Cambodia boy was his friend and he does not have sex with friends. I ask Mon Boy if he could tell Cambodia boy if he was OK with this threesome. He talks to Cambodia boy in Thai, and they come to an agreement. “OK, we go two with you,” he tells me.
Just like that, I am in a threesome.
That’s next.
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ct2005 reacted to a447a in Low season report BKK onlyAh, the eternal question - how do the straight boys do it?
As a gay man there is no way I could possibly have sex with an old woman, no matter matter how much I was paid. Getting it up would be impossible, even if I watched gay porn.
I put it down to the fact that the guys are just so horny, they will do anything in order to get off.
This is certainly the case with my guy in Bangkok - his hornyness knows no bounds. He has the hardest cock I have ever seen. It's literally like an iron bar and it stays hard not only during sex, but for a long time after he has cum.
But it is his love of fucking that also explains his ability to perform. He can go on forever, but I can't. When I eventually tell him I've had enough he begs me to hang in there.
"Can do more? Please! Just some more!"
I always give in to him as he having such a good time I don't have the heart to refuse.
My Pattaya guy is also 100% straight. And I'm sure I don't turn him on either, yet he gets hard at the drop of a hat.
Often we both lie on the bed in our underwear, me on the ipad and he playing a game on his phone. I'll put my hand down his briefs and there is an immediate stirring. He's hard in seconds.
So like my other encounters with the guys - all straight - it's about them, not me. They just enjoy the sex.
I can't get enough of my Pattaya boy's cock. It is truly magnificent. When I start to "samoke" him he grabs a pillow, closes his eyes and just enjoys the experience. The expression on his face is priceless. No doubt he's imagining it's a hot young girl working on him, not some old farang.
However, I think the situation would be very different if he were gay. It would be very difficult for him to enjoy the sex, as young gay guys only want to have sex with young, handsome guys like themselves. The straight guys don't really care what we look like but for the gay boys that is an extra hurdle for them.
That's my take on the situation.
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I have had a very short visit to Bangkok after deciding that I wanted to visit Myanmar, having never been. I did my best to make full use of my time. Thought I'd share my experience to thank other posters here for their advice on my visit.
arena massage - older mostly muscled guys. Probably unfair, but felt to me like these guys were truckers or construction workers. If you like them a bit rough, this would work for you. I'm more of a face guy myself so didn't find much that suited me. One younger less muscled guy had, however, a megawatt smile.
Jupiter 2018 - Went twice. Arrived just i time for the show the first night. Guys mostly like the college athlete types. The ripped abs were quite amazing. Show was very hoohum. They brought a woman up on stage and did a dance number of these two guys 'fighting' to grind on her. I am glad women are getting more sexually liberated, but it was a huge turn off for me and I left. Went back a couple nights later and picked a guy. turns out the guy was the prima donna I guess, since I was told that to off him would cost 5000! Was told there were 2 boys like that among all the boys on stage. I guess if you can get it, you should, but I was having none of it and left. I'd also add that the layout of the bar is awful. The very large pillars obscure the view from a bunch of seats. Just not a well-designed place. If I were staying in town, I wouldn't be going back.
Dreamboys - Hasn't changed since last time I was here like 6 or 7 years ago. first night I could have picked 4 or 5 guys. Had a good overnight with one for 3000.
Tawan - Also hasn't changed. Guys sitting around on their phones. Offed a Lao guy the last night I was in town. real muscle man, but needed to watch straight porn on his phone to perform. That' a first for me and a huge turn off. I get that these guys are mostly pretty straight, but I can't enjoy myself when they're that tuned out.
I am staying near Senso Massage and will give them a try before I head to the airport.
Also a shout out to siamroads.com. I booked two different guides to help show me around during the day, and both were good. I'd visited enough times that I didn't want to do the normal touristy things, but they helped me navigate the city, and were good companions during the day. If you're not that comfortable havigating, they're a good option. I'll be using one of their guides for my visit in Myanmar and will report on that later.
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Day 2.0: Errands and Other Stuff
After all the greedy boy shenanigans of yesterday, time to do non-sexual stuff today. I am not going to elaborate on what I am doing today, but that meant me asking Shan Boy if he wanted to go back to his room for a few hours while I do my thing, instead of waiting in the room for me. I know Shan Boy would be devoted enough to stay with me the whole time I am doing my errands, but I thought I'd give him a break. We have breakfast at the Crowne Plaza lounge with Shan Boy heartily eating everything in sight (he is not averse to the western food available).
After breakfast I ask Shan Boy if he wanted me to give him a tip for his services yesterday, in case he needed some money for expenses today. He said I could just give it to him on the last day. I give him one of the key cards for the room, in case he needed to get in while I was gone. Even with all my stuff in the room, I trusted him with my things. He trusts me enough to not ask for a tip today, even if there was a chance I could tell him to get lost when he left, stiffing him of his tip. So I decide to trust him back.
We part ways at the BTS Silom station. He walks towards Sathorn, I get on the BTS to my destination. I spend a few hours doing my thing. In the midst of it all, the captain from Moonlight bar sends me a Line, asking me if I was going to the bar tonight:
I had to ask about the models, the superstars, the ones that have impossibly beautiful bodies, handsome faces, and an aura of sexiness and aloofness. Can the be offed? Of course they can. Everyone has a price.
So they are only tops, the off fee for them is 1500 baht, and their tips are 4000-5000 baht. That is almost as much as an hour with a USA money boy. Which I understand. They know that here they have something unique to offer. In the USA they would be a dime a dozen among money boys. I am sure they make a killing here. The captain sends me a pic:
Blowing up the photo up close:
Very yummy boys indeed. And really, they are more impressive live then in photos, I can assure you. I can see myself offing every single one of them, money be damned. At least one of them, just for curiosity. And it featured one white model! I am fairly surprised by this.
I circle the three that I like:
I ask the names of the three:
I wonder why Mr. Igor faring superstar cannot be offed. That would be an interesting to off a Russian money boy in Bangkok.
He sends me more photos of a special boy guest:
I wonder if he can be offed. I didn't ask. Like I said before, I am an anomaly. I like mamasans and captains helping me with stuff like this. I get a lot of info from them.
I finish my errands and message Shan Boy to tell him that he can go back to the hotel room. Shan Boy texts back saying he will be at the hotel in an hour. I get back to the room and relax for a bit. I was tired from all the errands of today. I notice a pamphlet I took last night from Moonlight:
gb Guide. Gay Boy guide? Gay Bangkok guide? I've never seen this before. This was new to me. What drew me to the pamphlet was the cover boy. It was one of the super sexy model boys from Moonlight. He looks yummy on photo, but he is so much more sexy live. He did the shower show at Moonlight last night, solo. I've never seen the shower show feature only one boy before, but boy did he own the stage. The choreography was excellent, and it was not like the random gyrations of previous shower shows. Like I said, they have picked up their game, and it made me want cover model boy more.
Going through the pages I see the full add for Moonlight:
Again, it featured the models I've seen in the bar. Very yummy. A short article about the bar:
It was not all Moonlight though. There was an ad for the new G-boy, which is the old X-Size:
And an accompanying feature article:
A Tawan ad, and they managed to do one without the former Tawan superstar Mekhin:
And new Screw Boys, a classic bar in my opinion. I hope I get to visit it this trip:
I recognize some of the Screw Boy boys in the ad. I definitely need to visit. Also a "hi-light" blurb:
Some ads for the Massage places too. I need to visit these ones. My Hero massage:
"Come 3 Pay for 2" - is I am assuming get 3 masseurs for the price of two. I would definitely get this promo when I get the chance. And I wouldn't mind if the boys in the ad were the ones giving me the massage.
The Prince massage. Is this massage place particularly gay?
Tawan "The Sun" Massage. Haven't too much about this. Is this like Tawan but in massage form?
And some other massage/spa information:
There are a bunch of maps of the various gay establishment, from Silom to Sukhumvit to Ratchada as well, and directories of just about every gay and gay-adjacent establishments in Bangkok, from saunas to beauty parlors and every thing else in between. I can post the maps and directories if this is useful to anyone. It is a pretty handy guide and newbies and possibly guys who have not been to Bangkok after a while will find this guide pretty useful. I know I do.
Shan Boy comes back. My Bangkok dreaming is a reality once again. More on the boys, next...
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1.9: Third Time’s a Charm
Three offs a day is probably my limit when it comes to Thailand. I have not offed more than three boys a day ever (I think). I don’t think I’ve arranged any (paid) mini-orgies because that obviously can be prohibitively expensive. I have arranged (free boy) orgies before, and one was this trip, but not in Thailand. That’s probably a story for another time. But speaking about Monger Index, offing three Thai boys is still probably cheaper, or at least as costly, as getting one boy for an hour back in the USA.
But right now, my attention is on Cambodian boy (Cam Boy) from Fresh Boys 3 hours ago. Finally, after being with ShanBoy in the beginning, after MonBoy’s trip down memory lane, I try to remember why I offed Cam Boy in the first place. He was tall, cute face, his shirt hugging his lean frame, and his fashionable jeans forming his thighs perfectly. In the elevator, I put a hand on his tummy. Rock hard six pack abs. That would be exciting to feel out tonight. I look at his groin area and I see a considerable bulge. For some reason he was sexier now with more clothes one than in those skimpy white briefs on the stage in Fresh Boys.
“What you do after you go Fresh Boy,” he asks me in broken English. “I go other bar off boy,” I tell him honestly. “WOW really, you have sex now with boy?” We head over to my room. “Yes and also I have sex your friend in the day. I have two boy already today.” I look at his face as he processes this information. I wonder what he thought about this. We get to the room. He sits down on the couch and starts taking off his shoes.
I ask him to take all his clothes except for his underwear. He does this and I am impressed by what I see. It is one thing to off someone based on what you see in the darkness of a bar and having him sit with you. Its another thing to see the same person in the flesh in bright hotel room lights. This kid was a stunner. And a stealth stunner for sure, because you would have never known in the bar. Great chest, nice 8(!) pack abs, and nice arm definition. His thighs were big for his frame, and had a sprinkling of hair on them. And the best part of all. He was already hard, and his sizeable penis was already peaking out of his briefs.
I had no choice but to unwrap the goods. I slid his briefs off him, and out flops out his cock. This cock was easily 7, maybe 8 inches and thick. Again, you would never know onstage in Fresh Boys that this kid had this big cock. And he was hard, which was good for me because we haven’t done anything yet, which means that I at least have his interest. I examine the cock, peel the foreskin back. One must admire such beauty when it presents itself in front of you.
“Customer want you fuck them?” I ask him, knowing that the answer is yes, because that cock was made to top. “Yes, I top many,” he answers, proud of himself. “OK good, but I no bottom. I top only ok?” He nods, understanding the request, probably thoroughly briefed by Shan Boy about my preferences. I turn him around and bend him over to expose his ass. His hole was equally beautiful. I put a tongue in there, and then my whole mouth. Again, no scent, no trace of anything. It was a trend today. All the asses I’ve rimmed today have been pristine.
We go to the bed. I hurriedly take off all my clothes. I lie down and he starts sucking off my already hard cock. He was a pro. I let him do this for a while. He pulls me up and kisses me full on the lips. Now we are talking. He was getting horny. I feel the urgency in his kisses. Really deep, wanting more and more. He kept jacking off my cock as we kiss. He was aiming to please.
After a few rounds of him sucking me and me rimming him, while kissing every chance we get, I reach for the condom and lube and tell him its time. He lays down, lifts up his legs, and I put in a lubed finger to see how he was. And he was ready. I slide in my cock and fuck him. Even with the two other fucks I’ve had today I was still enjoying the sensation, as I thrust back and forth. His big cock sways back and forth with every thrust, and his abs tense up with every thrust. These were great visuals. He touches his cock, and with a few pumps he cums. There was a lot. He has been storing this for a while. I keep fucking him. I take his cum and jack his still hard cock with it. The sensation of cum in my hand and his cock was amazing. Pretty soon I cum as well. Third time’s a charm.
I scoop the remaining cum off of his torso and put it in his mouth. He licks it all. We kiss. We shower. We exchange Line. We laugh at the absurdity of offing three boys in a day. I give him 2000 baht. I text Shan Boy and tell him the coast is clear. I offer Cam Boy a free Crowne Plaza bottled water. Cam Boy gives me a big sloppy wet kiss, and he leaves.
Five minutes later Shan Boy appears. He hugs me. He goes to the bedroom and inspects the carnage. “Three boy many na,” he said, laughing. I am glad he is in on the absurdity of it all. He sees my clear lube bottle and examines it. “Before like this,” pointing to the top of the bottle. “Now like this,” pointing to the current level of the lube. I have used almost half of the lube today. I usually bring a travel-sized 3 ounce bottle of lube to trips like this. If my normal days are like today, I think I need to graduate to the normal size bottle.
“You shower na?” I ask him. “Yes, moment,” he tells me. I tidy up the bed, trying to at least undo the damage from Cam Boy. He emerges in a towel, looking nice with his hair still tousled. He finds his underwear and tries to wear it. “No,” I tell him. “I want you cum.” I did not want a load go to waste. Even if I came three times already, I wanted Shan Boy to cum as well. I am greedy this trip.
Shan Boy does what I say. He tidies up after himself and turns off all the lights except the one by the bed and gets in the bed. I do my work. I put his cock in my mouth. I feel it get hard with every second it was in my mouth. I suck greedily, with purpose. Shan Boy moans. I look up and see him with his eyes closed. I labor some more. He cums in my mouth.
I think my trips to South America has emboldened me sexually. Today was a good day. We both sleep soundly tonight.
Tomorrow, a lot of other things to do, and another three boy day, next…
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Day 1.75: The Boy is Back
If I can help it, I would always want to off a new boy, instead of a boy I already offed in the past. Variety is the spice of life after all. Tonight, I offed MonBoy, a boy I famously offed last year. But looking at him now, I feel that I did off a new boy. There was something different about him tonight. Yes, there were obvious physical improvements to talk about (more muscular, bigger thighs and butt, less stress around the eyes), but there were also more subtle ones.
“You still like me?” he asks me as we make our way through to Surawong on our way to the Crowne Plaza. “Maybe,” I say. “I no drink many na,” he says. “Before I drink many beer. Now no. I no want. I grow up.” He did drink a lot the last time we met. I always thought those overt displays of affection were alcohol-fueled. Here was this supposedly straight gorgeous guy who had sex with guys for money, making passionate monkey sex with me. It could only be fueled by liquid courage of course. It's all the same to me. I had fun, he got his money.
But he seemed fairly introspective tonight. He reminisced about our time together. About little details I forgot happened but him remembering them like it was yesterday. He told me about the tough year he had after leaving Bangkok and going back to the farms of Myanmar. How it taught him all sorts of lessons, and now, back in Bangkok, more than ever, very eager to earn more money. We get to my room and he hugs and kisses me, and then takes both my hands and kisses them too. “Thank you tonight,” he says.
While I wanted to bask in his graciousness, I did not have much time. I still had the Cambodian I offed in FreshBoys to contend with tonight, and of course there is still ShanBoy, my long time boy for the night. I sit on the bed and encouraged him to do the same. “You want shower?” he asks. “Maybe,”I said, but what I really wanted to do is see his body naked again. I had so many photos of him naked last year. He was not shy about posing for me. Right on cue he started taking off his clothes, and immediately out plops out that legendary cock. It is still there, quite as legendary as before.
“You like me again?” he asks, almost too preciously. “Yes I like, I always like.” I maneuver his cock to my hand and stroke it till it was hard. It was still impressive, even if I've seen it before. He starts kissing me to start sex, timidly at first. I give him a lot of tongue. He was taken aback. “I forget you like kiss many,” he exclaims, almost laughing. And as if a switch was flipped, he kisses me back, really deeply. This was more passionate than before. It was kind of surprising. MonBoy was eager to please. I loved every minute of it.
He starts taking off my clothes. At this point there was no need to shower. We were in the midst of doing it. He looks at my hard cock and then swallows it whole. Damn, he has learned something new in the past year. He was rocking my world. I take his ass and pivot it towards my face while I lie back down. He sits on my face and I proceed to rim him. Wow, no trace of anything. No scent, not even soap, very clean. It’s as if he knew I was going to off him. Maybe he bathed in Moonlight. I go to town on his ass. I still think he does not top for anyone else, as he was still tight down there. This made me even more crazy.
He sucks my cock while I rim him. I come up for air eventually. “You want fuck me?” he asks me, making sure I was satisfied. “Yes I want.” He disappears in the bathroom for a minute and comes back with a towel and a condom and lube packet. He was prepared like ShanBoy. He gives me the condom, and I unwrap it and put the condom on my cock. He lubes himself up and then me. He then sits on me and takes me cock. Slowly, but surely. I can tell he is not used to this. But he didn’t even hesitate doing it for me. He knew what I liked. He does what he thought I wanted.
Once he got it all in he starts thrusting. This was some expert level thrusting, with force and purpose. This is the difference with tops that can bottom. They know how to thrust. They know how to use their hips and thighs. I did not have to move a muscle. He was doing all the work. And with the visuals of this gorgeous guy taking me, his body and every muscle straining, with his cock, flaccid but still big, flopping up and down with every thrust, and his face, looking at me, seeing if I was enjoying myself, and trying to give me what I want. That was all it took. I came soon after.
MonBoy and I both shower together. He was happy, laughing, had more joy than I have ever seen him with. This was an unexpected surprise. Have I known he was back I would’ve have just had him stay with me long time instead of ShanBoy. First world problems of course. Both are equally engaging and sexy and capable men to be able companions with me, but only one has the emotional and sentimental cache with me, and it was MonBoy. And from his actions, he seems to have the same amount of caring for me.
We talk while we put ourselves together. He tells me that some family from Myanmar are in town and they were all going to the zoo tomorrow. He asked me if I could come. I told him I had a lot of things to do tomorrow. He said he would love me to go with him as his friend, not as a customer (whatever that means). He told me what time to be ready in case I wanted to come. I told him I’ll think about it. I text ShanBoy to see what he and the FreshBoys Cambodian was up to. He texted back that he was still at the bar and they were both waiting for me. I told them I was coming.
I tell MonBoy to help me tidy up the room. We both head down to Rama IV and just talk about life. It was good to see him. We part ways as I make the left to Surawong to fetch the two boys. It was 12:15 AM on a Saturday night. Everything was still hopping but the crowds have died down somewhat. I get to FreshBoys and I see the two boys standing there. I ask them if they were hungry and both said yes. I wanted to eat something authentic but didn’t want street food. So I chose the very first restaurant we see as we head back out to Surawong: the Happy Beer Garden restaurant.
I told the boys to order many dishes so we can all share. ShanBoy chose the dishes and asked me if I liked any of them. I said everything was fine. At this point I was super hungry. I had sex twice today already and all I ate today was some free finger food at the Crowne Plaza at 6 PM, and airline breakfast on Cathay at 8:30 AM. I was actually glad ShanBoy ordered a lot. Between the three of us we devoured all the food. It was delicious. I try to hold off on getting Thai food back home. The wait was worth it. And like most Myanmar boys who spend some time with me, ShanBoy had the habit of feeding me.
While eating I tried talking to Cambodia boy. He had a hard time understanding me and ShanBoy had to translate. Cambodia Boy then decided to tell ShanBoy that he wanted to tell me something. ShanBoy told me that when I left, some customers wanted to off Cambodia boy but he did not go with them because he was already committed to me tonight. I apologized to Cambodia Boy and told him that it would not have hurt my feelings if he did go with someone else. He said he didn’t mind waiting for me. I hope that was true. I don't think he is used to customers offing him and then making him wait while the customer offs another boy.
I pay the bill, a little bit pricey but worth it, and all three of us were on our way. I asked ShanBoy about the night in FreshBoys and he told me about customers and the boys they offed. He said it was a busier night than usual. I ask both of them if they will make the transition to FreshBoys 2 when the time comes. They both said they didn’t know yet.
We get to Crowne Plaza, and the sight of two boys with me never fazes anyone in there. We get to the second set of elevators on the 23rd floor and Cambodia Boy and I get in. The elevator door closes and we noticed ShanBoy did not go in. I get a Line from ShanBoy, telling me to tell him when we were done having sex. I guess I was getting Cambodia Boy solo action tonight.
So let’s see how a third boy today fares with me, next…
(I told you I was greedy this trip)
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BONUS TOPIC: The Monger Index
I'm interrupting my posting this weekend because I am on travel. When am I not on travel? I used to write these trip reports in between trips and at layovers. Now this are a little bit difficult. I will continue next week.
But to tide you over, I am cross-posting something I wrote in BoyToy during the end of my Brazil Trip Report. It is a metric I came up with called the Monger Index, or a way to compare the cost of hiring in different countries versus the boys you get back home. It’s a metric me and a buddy of mine came up with while super drunk at the Crowne Plaza Bangkok at 3 AM in the morning years ago. He asked me why I get all these prostitutes overseas. With the airfare and hotel rooms, that cost adds up. Wouldn’t it be just cheaper to hire prostitutes back home?
I told him he was crazy because (a) the prostitutes are expensive back home and (b) sex is more fun when on vacation anyway. But I disputed his thesis that it is cheaper to hire prostitutes back home. So I came up with an index that measures how much cheaper it is to get hot guys overseas than in the USA, accounting got airfare and lodging costs. This is the Monger index.
I apologize for the math. I am Asian after all.
Some assumptions:
(1) Time Range: The index would not work in measuring one-offs. Of course ONE prostitute would be cheaper in the USA than ONE prostitute in Bangkok. A $250 an hour prostitute you hire for one hour to take home to your USA house is cheaper than a $50 gogo boy you get in a nice gogo bar if you add the $600 roundtrip airfare one needs to get to the sauna, plus the hotel cost.
It will only work if you hire by bulk, and have a longer time range. My assumption for this index example is one week, or 7 days. For example, if you get one guy every day in a week in the USA, that adds up to 7*$250 = $1750. Now we are talking bigger dollars. Have sex in bulk when overseas helps you recoup your cost.
(2) Airfare: The index should include the airfare. For my purposes here, I use airfare coming from California, because that's where I live. So for example, a typical off-season RT air ticket to Sao Paulo, Brazil is $1000. For Bangkok, it’s $550. This is a fixed cost in the index.
(3) Hotel: Of course you have to assume you are getting a hotel in the city you are mongering in. I assume my hotels will be typical AirBNB’s, with basic amenities in a decent and nearby neighborhood. Translation: not a dump but not fancy, and Uberable or walkable to the sauna and tourist-friendly services. For Sao Paulo I assume of the cost, the AirBNB me and the BF got in Bela Vista last December. It was a decent $50 a night. For 7 nights that adds up to $350. For Bangkok, a typical decent Silom Soi 3 AirBNB costs $45 a night.
(4) Overnights: I put in the calculation the cost it takes for hiring a guy overnight. For California, a typical overnight with a hot but not “superstar porn star” hot is $1000. For Sao Paulo, Jonas’ example was 200 reals, but I count his initial 200 reals in the sauna as part of the overnight, so 200+200 = 400 reals, or $104. For Bangkok, its a bit tricky, but I assumed a high-end 3000 baht overnight, or $91. I pay that because of all the sexual acrobatics I require all my boys. It is only fair.
So here are the gross calcs. For 7 days, if I hired a boy for one hour and another boy for overnight every day:
California Prostitute: Price for one hour times 7 + Price for an overnight times 7 = $250*7 + $1000*7 = $8750
Bangkok GoGo Boy: Airfare + 7 nights in AirBNB + Price for a garoto in the sauna times 7 + Price for a garoto overnight times 7 = $550 + $315 + $52*7 + $91*7 = $1866
Sao Paulo Garoto (Jonas): Airfare + 7 nights in AirBNB + Price for a garoto in the sauna times 7 + Price for a garoto overnight times 7 = $1000 + $350 + $52*7 + $104*7 = $2442
The index is calculated as the ratio of the 7-day cost of USA boys, divided by the total cost in that country.
7-day Monger Index for Sao Paulo = $8750/$2442 = 3.58
7-day Monger Index for Bangkok = $8750/$1866 = 4.70
Issues:
(1) I do not count the Uber cost to get to the sauna or gogo bar, or the entrance fee for the sauna, or the cabina price, or the off fee, or the drink costs in a bar.
(2) I do not account for food costs. Of course you have to eat whether in the USA or Brazil or Thailand. This may be a future improvement to be added.
(3) The airfare is just from California, maybe it’s more or less where you are. Maybe my assumption of $550 for Bangkok is too much or too little. This is just what I see anecdotally.
So, with that, here are my Monger Indices for some 6 cities I’ve been to, ranked by the best to worst:
1. Pattaya, Thailand: 5.54
2. Bangkok, Thailand: 4.70
3. Mexico City, Mexico: 4.53
4. Bogota, Colombia: 3.77
5. Sao Paulo, Brazil: 3.58
6. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: 3.44
These are solely based on my experience. Your Monger Index may be different.
Some observations:
(1) Thailand remains the most bang for your buck, because of the presence of cheap decent places to stay in and low cost to fly there from California.
(2) Mexico is helped by the fact that it’s so close to California, therefore the airfare is cheap.
(3) Brazil on the other hand, is dinged by how expensive the airfares are from California.
(4) If I factor in food, Thailand may even get a higher index, and Brazil may get a lower index.
(5) Grindr prices were only used in Bogota and Mexico, because I do not have experiences getting anyone there outside of Grindr. So your mileage may vary.
(6) Quality of boys is impossible to measure. And it is subjective, so it can’t be put in the index. The index is solely a quantitative metric. For example, twinks may be better in Thailand. Adonises may be better in Brazil. Again, quality is subjective, and can’t be measured meaningfully.
Of course, in the end, your mileage may vary, and these indices are only meaningful to me. If you don’t like having sex with Asians, your Monger Index for Thailand is -1000000, for example.
Thoughts and improvements to this index is highly appreciated.
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Day 0.5: Starting off my trip right
I am very fortunate to have a job that allows me to travel a lot. Sometimes I travel for work as well, and I try to schedule side trips whenever I can around work. This Bangkok trip is like the latter. I am heading off to work in a country near Thailand that does not have near the quality of the sex tourism infrastructure that Thailand has, although there is an abundance of free boys there. I am not worried about not having sex in the country I am going to work at. But I did want to carve some time away from work to take advantage of the superior nightlife Bangkok had to offer.
As I mentioned in the previous post, I was in Bangkok last February. It was during Chinese New Year, and it was a weird trip. Somehow the gogo boys were not clicking for me. For example I went to the legendary Tawan with a Grindr hookup and he mentioned (and I agreed) how depressing the atmosphere was and it was all “old man gogo.” Maybe it was because it was a holiday weekend so not a lot of gogos were in the city that weekend. Three things were good though: (1) paulsf was in town so I got to hang out with him, and also met Michael and Divinemadman for the first time (nice to meet you guys!), (2) the lack of quality gogos was compensated by the presence of Chinese tourists who were visiting over the holiday, so this was the only Bangkok trip in a while where I slept with more Grindr hookups than gogo boys and (3) got to off a nice handsome young muscle boy in Tawan who while in the bar said he doesn’t bottom, but back in my condo happily took all of me.
This trip I am prepared to just go all gogo boys, and no Grindr hookups (maybe). The money I saved from last trip, I will get to add to the budget this time, so I have even more freedom to get boys without thinking about breaking the bank. Also this trip, I didn’t want to waste time scouting for an AirBNB apartment, so I just booked myself four nights at the Crowne Plaza Lumpini Park. A little bit pricey but it’s been a good year. Normally I’d stay the first night there and then go on to a cheaper and homelier AirBNB in Silom Soi 3. The Bangkok Crowne Plaza’s ability to check me in earlier than usual, even as early as 8 AM one time, is always its shining quality for me. Nothing like getting in early in the day and sleeping off the jetlag, to wake up late afternoon all fresh and ready to go hit the bars.
With this trip I haven’t really thought about travel companions or anything like that. I have not been as prepared for this as previous trips. But someone else has been more prepared for it than I am. Throughout my Bangkok trips I have collected a few Line chat buddies from boys I’ve met. They usually are hot and heavy right after the trip, as they chat me up furiously on Line, constantly asking me when my next trip would be. The messages die down after a while, maybe because I haven’t sent them any money or I haven’t replied soon enough to their liking, or in this case, I have not been back to Thailand in a while.
But there is one boy that has been a constant contact. Remember him?
He was a gogo boy in X-size. I have not seen him since December 2016. That’s a long time for a boy to still keep in contact with me. He is not much of a talker on Line, but he occasionally sends me hi, hello, how are you messages on Line probably once a month, like here, March and April. There trickle messaging keeps him alive in my head:
So at the end of last month he messages me, but I added that I was gonna be there in June:
I guess persistence really pays off.
I don’t know what possessed me to ask him if he could meet me at the airport, but I did anyway:
I guess I was so used to having BurBoy (remember him?) usually meet me at the airport, so it was fairly reflexive for me to ask ShanBoy if he could do this for me as well. He has been to the airport with me before, to say goodbye (remember that?) so his yes at least was not a surprise. He asks me where I was staying:
Of course I ask him for updates photos of him. He sends some photos of him shirtless, and I remembered why I was attracted to him in the first place. Nice golden brown skin, amazing abs definition, muscular arms and legs. He is what I would call a “Super Twink,” or a twink who lifts weights. He is like a twink, slight in build, but with much better muscle definition. He is also taller than I am, so really, he is the definition of Super Twink.
Fast forward to the day of my flight. It was primarily a work trip, and I had two giant suitcases with me filled with work items. Since BKK was not my work destination, I would be lugging around these two suitcases from the airport and back. So I guess having someone meet me at the airport to help me carry these around would be prudent.
ShanBoy confirms that he is going to meet me at the airport, like a good worker that he is. I reply on my layover in HK:
GayThailand is littered with stories about Gogo Boys being late all the time. ShanBoy, however, continues to be an anomaly. He was actually early to get to the airport, and gave me status updates of where he is:
This kid is a real professional. He even gives me an idea of where he is:
After the usual line in immigration and wait in baggage claim, it was 11:23 AM when I get to the arrivals hall. I ask him where he was:
We meet at Door 6. He sees me first, as I see him already smiling when I find him in the crowd. He gives me a curt hug, and then immediately takes my luggage trolley and navigates it through the crowd. It kind of felt like having a butler fetch you at the airport:
He asks if we were going to take the Airport Link train or the Taxi. I say Taxi, since the suitcases were kind of unwieldy to wrestle in a train car and elevators. He deftly guides us to the taxi level, and helps the driver load up my giant bags in the taxi. I just stood there, like the tourist that I am, as my workers helped me.
Through the years of visiting BKK, I am fairly adept with telling Thai drivers where my destination is, but for some reason I was sort of relieved that ShanBoy did all the talking for me. He even remembered where my hotel was, just from our conversation weeks earlier, and didn’t have to ask me where I was staying to tell the taxi driver. Maybe he really is my butler.
So with that, I kick-off my Bangkok adventure with my gogo boy-butler.
Next, reacquainting myself with ShanBoy.
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Might I also suggest that your trip reports to any country are very welcome and in the Main Forum whenever or where ever you have the time to post even if short stories!
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ct2005 reacted to vinapu in Art of Thai adventures -report of June 2018 tripDay 4
Kiss is a restaurant on 2nd Road often recommended so today I decided to give them a try , hopped in baht bus and few minutes late I was there, not much traffic in the morning but as I saw I later days it is really popular and deservedly so. Breakfast for 90 baht is good deal, even with rounding price to 100 which I did.
Today is bit of historical day for me as for first time I’m planning to sleep in Jomtien Complex. My choice was The Venue, junior suite proved well furnished with regular table, sofa suitable for night games as I discovered later, room very spacious , everything was working but part I liked the most were two additional towels in the cupboard. It seems they are proactive in preparing room for guests entertaining more than one boy , either in sequence of together.
I walked around the Complex , very quiet mid-day but for me it’s still new territory as other than massages in Fah and now defunct Derby Massage I never entertained myself there.
Spotted nice looking boy in Soda massage so went for 1 hr, 300 baht session. Nothing wrong and nothing memorable , just regular massage with hanky-panky as second half so 1000 baht tip well earned. A bit of lazing in the afternoon since it was raining but in the evening I went to Tukcom where I was supposed to meet with biguyby and Christian PFC at 7.30 for a dinner and some bar hopping.
We aimed at often recommended Salt and Pepper restaurant only to find it closed which was kind of shock as both gentlemen claimed they saw it opened in last few days. But things are getting closed in Pattaya all the time so we settled for one of French restaurants beside Tukcom. While looking for suitable replacement I noticed that crowd formerly dining in now closed Ting Tong Red is having their meal in one of restaurants in the same row. One of dinners was williewillie so we had brief handshake and promised to see each other on another day.
Three of us had a great meal in great company , lively conversation, in short great start to a great evening. Nourished we decided to do some sightseeing beginning with Kawaii bar. I was never fan of it as boys are too skinny and looking too young , there were only 6 or 7 of them. Drunk Thai sitting in the audience looked more interesting to me than boys on display and my customary departing tip went to mamas an , also skinny and diminutive and at least pretty faced.
Few day later news hit that Kawaii closed for good which is not surprising me but can imagine that some fans of twinks may mourn it’s passing.
Next step was A Bomb and it was eye popper for me at least – I was it that bar many times , offed few boys from there but today’s selection was by far best I ever saw. Out of 8 or 10 boys on the stage almost all were offable material and to add to a pleasure quite a few of them showed an interest in me smiling broadly, blinking eyes and trying to draw attention to themselves. I liked particularly number 19 and 222 but as I said almost all were prime material, manly, muscular but not hunky and their underwear looked well filled in.
Next step was XBoys where show was about to start. In comparison to 2 days ago few changes , few new routines, shower show with only one performer this time who happened to be my long time off from September. He recognized me, smiled and later approached to collect his tip. Boys are known for a good memory and he remembered not only my face but also that we slept together and name of hotel. He was also top in today’s f***k show even if other top was in the bar and we had him sitting with us for a while.
So got another tip from me for that part. I’m not big fun f public sex but always tip special show performers if only to appreciate their devotion to the job.
Mercifully sound was not as deafening as I recall from precious trips. So lesson for those bored with shows is to try a visit again as is both performers and numbers are changing , as we saw even in span of 2 days.
After visiting three bars together biguyby and Christian decided to call night off but I , being on short vacations decided to carry on and went , as tittle of that thread says to take Art from BBB to my new digs in The Venue. Invitation smilingly accepted with a little concern about the starting drizzle but we managed to reach hotel on his motorbike dry.
Show at The Venue was on the last numbers so we decided so see what was on offer , ordered 2 beers and 4 arrived to my surprise. It turned out at that time was 2 for 1 offer, so we had something to take upstairs with us. Bonus for Art was his long not seen friend who was in the audience with his permanent farang boyfriend so they had brief reunion.
In the room routine the same like last 2 nights including me teasing him about long time and him saying ‘ no, no, no , I want to sleep” , but nevertheless great and adorable guy with excellent massage skills body , well equipped and good conversationalist as well. True shining star of this trip.
It was past 2 a.m. when he left but Complex was still busy and noisy with some party so I went to see what is going on. Party with live music at Question Mark couple dozen of patrons still there so I joined in having moment of enlightenment that it’s time to test usage of that spare towels in the cupboard.
Several bar boys around , nobody standing out so I asked twinky boy who brought me my beer if he wants a drink and he turned out to be thirsty. No doubt Guardian Ange got involved because as soon as he sat down and had a sip he asked me gentlemanly question “ are you sleeping alone?” . It took no time for me to answer “ no, with you”. So it turned out rest of my night ( not much left as it was almost 3 a.m. ) was Cambodian affair.
Well not much of affair really as we both were quite exhausted and felled asleep pretty soon after embracing each other but very pleasant sleep it was . I cleared with him before we left if 1200 tip will be acceptable as it was all Thai currency I had on me at the moment after quite busy evening as we see above. And this is how day 4 was finished.
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ct2005 reacted to vinapu in Art of Thai adventures -report of June 2018 tripDay 2
Boy declined breakfast together offer so I went alone to Foodland Patpong for my regular treat of discounted breakfast at 65 baht , available between 5.30 and 9, after 9 price goes up to a whooping 81 baht.
Return to hotel , packed and off to Ekkamai as this trip I decided will me mainly Pattaya affair for me with Bangkok as appendix only. Contrary to what some may think reason was not a prices, indeed much cheaper in Pattaya but very good experience I had with few boys last September and was hoping to meet them again.
Pretty pleasant weather this year, it’s my 4th time there in beginning of Jun and by far weather was the best with manageable rain and not much heat, in fact for few days my cousins reported that they had bigger heat at home than I in tropical Bangkok.
108 baht for bus , twenty minutes waiting and I was on my way. In Pattaya to get to the hotel I took one of those songtaews waiting at the bus station and for 50 baht shortly after I was dumped on beach road in the mouth of Boyztown. Sure there is cheaper option by just crossing the street and taking regular songtaew for 10 baht but I consider 50 reasonable offer.
I mentioned above good experience with some boys and one of them was Kao, masseur at Copa, on approach whom I see? Beaming Kao looking at beaming the me !
As it turned out he was first time on the job in one month as he has daytime bartnding job somewhere else but today , due to Vishaka Bucha ‘dry’ holiday he was free so decided to come to Copa, good job my beloved Guardian Angel !.
I told him to stay tuned as I needed to change money, took haircut on my way for 150 and shortly after massage fee of 400 was paid and fun started. Not a bad massage but what a body ! Of course he suggested repeat tomorrow just before I opened my mouth with the same suggestion. 1200 baht for my pleasure, kisses , smiles , ‘ see you tomorrow’ embraces. Happy , happy me and him.
Since it’s good practice not to eat before massage I felt pretty hungry so for a meal I went to one of my obligatory 4 food stops in Thailand – Alt Heidelberg restaurant on the Beach Road around the corner.
( for investigative minds other 3 stops are Foodland and Madrid Tavern on Patpong and Oasis on Suriwong).
Alt Heidelberg could use some renovation since it appears excesively to adhere to Alt / old in German / designation but food is good, both farang and Thai and it’s good people watching spot too. After nourishment I wanted to walk around but body reminded me about me being in Thailand barely 27 hours and jet lag started to kill me so returned to my room and don’t even remember how I fell asleep, waking up at 9.45 pm.
Good timing to go to BoyzBoyzBoyz thought I , so after refreshing and shaving ( in Thailand I always shave just before hitting bars ) I entered what I consider best bar in the hole country. One of mamasans recognized me and rushed with handshake, than Art standing on the scene beamed his broad smile which warmed me immensely as he is one of those I precisely come to Pattaya for.
Then one of boys Arab looking veteran there whom I never offed but always tip smiled and only missing grin was from Kaow who as I learned later from Art did not recognize me. It was Art who reminded him about his off with me last Sept.
I got good seat so could enjoy the show , quite new. In a break boys presented themselves and it was great assembly of male beauty, great indeed. In meantime I was object of adoration of my neighbor , Chinese looking in his early 40ties who seem to like hair on my hand, leg and chest . Being in charitable mood I let him to play a little pretending I don’t see it but when his hand went up the leg his fun was aborted by a gentle slap. May be I should not to waste such occasion as he was quite good looking but I did not suffer indignity of long flight to see him but to have massage by Art.
So after BBoys dynamic show ending with surprisingly meager tipping by the patrons, I slipped 100 baht into Kaow’s and one more boy undies, waved art over , paid 500 off fee and marched him to Copa for reacquainting session of great massage and surprisingly interesting conversation no to mention other exercises.
There was no doubt he remembered me very well and only dark spot of the evening was his flat refusal to do long time, oh well. No means no. So after he left I went to bed alone , my first lonely night in Thailand for a long time. I mentioned agreeable weather – I turned air conditioner off for the night, rare trea and it was end of second day.