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Day 11.5: If you think of happiness, think Tawan Captain comes back and hands me my drink. He then sits down with me and says that the boys think you look familiar. I tell him sure, I’ve been here a number of times before so they recognize me. He says no, I look familiar because I look like a Tawan guy who used to work there named “Siam”. I laugh, and ask him if that’s true. He says yes. Siam is back in Issan, and the boys find it funny that I look like him. I am uncertain if this is good or not. Captain then asks me what I wanted tonight. I tell him I wanted to off someone, that’s why I am early at the bar. Maybe too early, I tell him. He says yes, usually on a Monday night punters get there close to 10-10:30 PM. He says almost all the boys showing up tonight are here so I have my pick. He then tells me that they boys are only tops and no bottoms. I think I’ve talked to him before about this, and he needs to reiterate this to me. I said no problem, I just want to off a boy to admire him, and do other things. Tawan is actually the first gogo bar in Thailand I’ve ever visited. Back in 2014, having discovered the Gaythailand forum by chance and reading about other people’s experiences, I decided to give it a go during a work visit to Asia. The first visit was only 3 nights, and my first bar was Tawan. From what I’ve been reading, the bar is legendary. The thought of super muscular Thai guys in tight speedos available to be had for a short time for a fraction of what I would pay back home was super appealing. The relative anonymity of doing it in another country added to the thrill. I thought it be fun to try just once, offing a muscular guy, see what it’s like, and once that itch has been scratched I’ll move on. Little did I know it would lead to 9 more trips to Thailand, and offing more boys. My first off was in Tawan, and it was Phet, one of the cute younger boys in Tawan. Not as big as the average muscle guy in Tawan, I was attracted to his youth (Looks like early 20s), looks (super pretty boy), and style (sexy spiky hair, leather jacket and boots). The sex was ok, nothing to write home about, but it did lead me to the path to find the perfect off. To this day I've never offed anyone of the muscle gods in Tawan, it would always be the smaller boys that I off: Tiger, Bos?, and more recently Boy. I always think, one day, I’ll off one of the giant guys, but I never do. Till tonight. I ask the Captain what does #17 do in bed? Captain says he is a very nice boy. He can kiss, suck and be sweet. Sounds great to me. Since I remember from other posters that he is one of the stars in Tawan I immediately think he may be diva-ish, and expensive. I think about it and call him over. He makes his way to me and then the boys all laugh again and whistle. He sits next to me and gives me a kiss on the cheek. Since Tong, #17, is widely known here, here is a link to a pic of him: http://hotasianman.blogspot.com/2013/10/nathakorn-apsuwan.html I ask Tong, why are they laughing? He says that I look like Siam, and it’s weird that a Siam look alike will be his customer for the night. I tell him I hope that’s good news for me. He says it is fine. He thinks it’s going to be a good night for me, he said. He introduces himself as Tong, asks for my name and where home is (You look Chinese!). I ask him how old he is. He asks me back, how old do you think I am? I say maybe 26. He laughs and flashes that giant smile (cute braces), and says no, he is 30. I then say that he has the biggest muscles in the room. I ask why so big? He says he takes part in bodybuilding competitions, and was Mr. Thailand one time. I congratulate him on his achievements by touching his big bicep (as one does when in Tawan). I am quite surprised how easy he is to talk to. He is all smiling, laughing, touchy feely, fairly accomodating. I feel his body and it is a quite a spectacle. I feel his biceps and it bigger than most Pattaya boy’s waists. I feel his chest and he bounces them up and down. His thighs are the epitome of “trunk-like”. His skin is very smooth, a dark brown. I look back up to his face and it is still smiling. A classic Thai face. He reveals some braces. He says he’s had them for 3 years now and only needs 3 more months before they can be taken off. He is wearing barely there speedos that show some bush when he sits down. Quite a visual from a mountain of a man. He then asks what I like doing when I off boys. I explain to him that normally I look for all the bottoms in a bar and choose from there. I say it’s rare for me to off tops because I feel that they just lay there. I tell him that if I will off someone in Tawan, no fucking is necessary, but the kissing, touching, feeling and connection should be there. He says it is no problem, he thinks he can take care of me. I ask how much, he says 2500 baht short time. But he also can massage me before to get in the mood. I was expecting something more expensive and feel that this is cheap for a Tawan star that is as charming as him. I tell him to get some clothes on so I can take him home. He tells me give him 10 minutes because he wanted to eat something that the bar is serving. I tell him no problem I will just finish my drink. Captain sees that Tong is not by my side, I tell him I offed him. 400 for drink and 500 for off fee. No mention at all of getting drink for Tong. I like Tawan’s no pressure vibe. The captain is helpful when he needs to be, no upsells, no pressure. I look over to the lonely farang nursing his beer. I hope he gets out of his shell and offs someone soon, or at least talks to someone. I feel that he needs some encouragement. Captain sees me looking at farang and decides to chat him up. I hope captain helps him. Tong appears in a loose fitting tshirt and pants. His pecs perk straight up, and his giant ass fills out the seat of his pants. Impressive that he is wear loose fitting clothing but his pecs and ass are so big, they are super tight in his clothes. He puts his arm around my shoulder as we head out on Soi Tantawan towards Silom Rd. He is very chatty, telling me about Isaan and his poor father and how his money also goes to his family in Isaan. He says he does not go to the bar everyday, only when he feels like it and needs the money. Sometimes he goes back to Isaan and spends some time there with his family. He has a t-shirt business going on now, where he prints knock-offs of designer brands and sells them to Thais on Facebook. He hopes that one day his business takes off. He says he doesn’t mind working at the bar but he would prefer to not be there if he can afford it. He then asks me about why I go to Bangkok. I tell him about how often I go, hotels I stay at, working in Hong Kong, my wish to buy a condo in BKK and maybe Pattaya. He is quite interested in my ramblings, and asks follow-up questions that make it sound like he is interested. Sometimes he puts his arm around my waist, my shoulder, kisses my back. He is pretty good. We get to the room and we sit on the couch. We talk some more while I admire (touch) his body. We talk about Bangkok and Isaan. About Tawan and gogo boy life. He tries to tell me a word that he does not know in English. I whip out Google Translate in my iPhone. He does not know how to use it. I help him, he says his word and gets translated in English to “seduction”. He then asks about the app. What is that app? I say Google Translate. It’s funny that he has not used this app before. His English is good enough, sure, but still needs some help sometimes, at least when talking to me. Maybe with other customers he is not needed to talk much? I tell him I was going to Pattaya for a few days starting tomorrow to visit my tailor. He perks up, asks how I was going to get there. I tell him about PT Taxi and how I use them all the time to get me to and from Pattaya. He asks me to cancel it. He owns a car and offers to drive me there and stay with me the whole time I am in Pattaya. I am surprised, ask him are you sure? Sleep in my bed all the time? He says sure, enjoy me. Go out and get dinner and such? Sure. I tell him I intended on offing some boys there, he says no problem, he can leave the room when I am with them and come back after. Or he can join, my choice. I find this very tempting. I am surprised he’d offer to do this. I don’t want to ask him how much this is all gonna cost me, because I feel it is a lot, so as to not spoil the mood. We haven’t even done the deed yet, I don’t know if we are compatible in bed yet. I take off his shirt. Play around with his magnificent torso for a while, while talking about a lot of things. I kiss him, get up and take a shower. I get out of the shower and he is reclining in the couch, trying to work the TV. I help him to operate it, instead he takes off everything and heads to the shower. Magnificent body. He doesn’t take long and he heads over to the bedroom as I follow him there. He asks if we can watch some movie on TV. I say what? That’s not too sexy. He says no, it’s just for the massage part. He turns it off when the sex happens. I agree to this and it actually works out. I lay on my front and he massages my back, shoulders, thighs and feet. He puts his ample weight on my body and it feels great. I didn’t mind the TV because I was being lulled to sleep by his massage. He flips me over and works on my chest and arms. He then turns the TV off and works on my penis. He gets it hard then promptly puts his ass on top of my dick, simulating dry humping. He makes seductive noises, I jack him off. He ample presence is very impressive. Him grinding on my dick is a positive. Perhaps this is acknowledgement of me being a top? He grinds my dick some more and soon he is also hard. He lays down beside me and we kiss and generate excellent body contact. I put his dick in my mouth and give him pleasure like this. I lightly finger him, his ass is like a trap. It is just so big. Lots of body contact, admiring his body, kissing his face, eyes, mouth. I try to embrace him, his massive presence can’t be contained by the full length of my arms around him. He asks if I wanted to be sucked. I said yes. Condom OK? I say I don’t know, I don’t like getting sucked through a condom. He takes a condom from his bag, puts it on my dick, and then sucks. And sucks. And continues to suck. Is he enjoying this? I wonder. He’s doing a great job. He offers his dick and we 69. This is awesome. I am taken to near orgasm numerous times before he stops just in time. He asks if I wanted to cum, I say sure. He jacks me off expertly till I cum. He puts my condomed dick in his mouth one last time and I collapse. I get rid of the condom, we cuddle in bed. He turns the TV back on. He is OK with my exploring touches. He drifts to sleep at times. I just enjoy the moment. I barely notice the movie playing (The Hunger Games dubbed in Thai). After 45 minutes of cuddling he stands up and starts putting clothes back on. He asks for my phone and keys in his number, and tells me to call him if I wanted him to drive me Pattaya. I tell him that I do not want to cancel on PT Taxi, but still wanted to see him. I tell him to come the day before I leave Pattaya and we can hangout and have fun and go to a gogo bar, and the next day he can drive me back. I ask how much, he says for everything its 5000 baht plus the price of gas. I think about it: I get to spend time with him, sleep on the same bed, go out have a nice time, maybe tag team a boy, and then he drives me back to BKK. He has to drive the two hours to get to Pattaya and then again to drive me back. PT Taxi is 1100 baht one way to get me back to BKK. And I don’t get to hold their driver’s hand or give him kisses on the drive. For driving and longtime services I’d say this is a reasonable price. We discuss dates and times for Pattaya. I give him his 2500 baht short time. We kiss and I escort him down to be able to leave the condo. I go back to my room, thinking that first impressions really aren’t reality. I thought that was going to be an expensive diva, it turns out he is a really nice guy just trying to earn a few more bucks. I need to figure out a way to have Mr. Thailand drive me around somehow to or from Pattaya and still get some new boys to play with in Pattaya. My mind explodes thinking about all the possibilities. I love Thailand.

This is so true. Many people focus on the tangible stuff they can pay for, but forget that experiences are worth the price as well.

Day 11: “Love conquers all things, except poverty and toothache” – Mae West. First night in condo was a success. I wake up at 10 AM, snuggled with my boy a few times, and then woke up to pee. Instead of going back to bed, I decide to answer a few work emails while he is sleeping. The beauty about staying in the condo is that, if it’s a 1 bedroom or more, you can hangout in separate parts of the unit without disturbing the other guy. I feel that in hotels you don’t have anywhere else to hide except in a far corner of the room. I put on some coffee, plant myself on the couch, and just have a leisurely time with my thoughts and my computer. Pretty soon I hear stirring in the bedroom. I hear peeing, I hear a toothbrush, I hear the shower, and then after that I see Dream Boy Thai Guy (DTG) emerge in a towel, all fresh, and flashing me that zillion watt smile like a weapon. I quickly get up and kiss him, make him some instant coffee, and tell him to keep comfortable while I shower. Emerging from the shower, I get out of the bathroom in a towel and see DTG sitting in the couch, playing with his phone and drinking coffee. I immediately unwrap his towel to reveal my reward. Feels like home. Before we go out to eat, he asks if I could give him his long time tip now because he needs to pay some bills. I ask which bills? He says he prefers not to say, and is kind of evasive about it. I pry no further. We get dressed and go out to Silom Rd. We go duck into a Kasikorn ATM vestibule that had bill pay, I reach for 3000 baht, he takes it, and he immediately puts all of it into the machine. My money passed from my hand to his hand to the ATM Bill Pay in a span of 10 seconds. He apologizes after saying he cannot talk about this bill he is paying, but it is a burden for him right now. Luckily, he said, it will probably be paid off in December, if he works hard, and he can start moving on with his life. He recommends going to Silom Complex to Fuji Restaurant for brunch. We get to the 4th floor where the restaurant is. He said he is now eligible to get a discount card at the restaurant, and he can save me money. Very considerate. We get to the restaurant and we get one of those bento box meals that had pretty much everything (miso soup, salad, veggie and shrimp tempura, gyoza, and some chicken or beef rice thing). He gets a discount card from the restaurant and said that we get 15% off on the meal. He hands me his card and there I see his real name. I ask why Thai names are unusually long. He tried to explain it, I still don’t understand why. The meal is 720 baht. We talk a lot during lunch. We spend two+ hours at lunch just talking about world events, Bangkok life, California life, my job, his job now, his former office job that only paid 17,000 baht a month, his parents who are dirt poor and need his help. He does not like seeing his parents often because they always have an outstretched hand toward him, asking for money. I tell him this is a typical money boy issue, having to support parents. I tell him about my parents and saying how lucky I am to be born in my current circumstance. Since we were in a Japanese restaurant, I ask him if he has ever been to Japan. He says he hasn't but would love to go. He said he has had some generous Japanese customers in the past, and would like to visit the country in the future. He told me a story of one of his mates in Dream Boy who goes to Japan once a month for a few days, to service a long-term customer. He says his friend earns a lot of money that way. I ask him if he wanted to go to Tokyo with me, since its been a while since I visited and I thought it would be fun to go with him. He says of course he wants, but he says money is an issue. I tell him I would pay for everything if it would make him happy. He smiles and does not reply. I ask if I said something wrong. He said everything was fine, but sometimes hates these conversations. He wants to do a lot of things in his life but can't due to money issues. He appreciates the offer, but always thinks that the money I will spend on him in Japan, he would rather have for himself to help with bills. He then apologizes for telling the truth. I tell him no apology needed, this is your reality right now. He wishes that he can keep all his money, but most of it goes to his parents, his student loans, and some other thing that he did not want to say. He said that he wishes he can hang out with me without me having to pay. He can’t even see his friends that much now. He says he needs to spend his free time wisely, and would rather use it to earn money than hanging out with friends. He has one or two friends left in his life that understand his situation. The rest have fallen away. He says he hopes we can be friends after he leaves the gogo boy life and everything doesn’t have to be a Money Boy situation. It’s past 3 PM and we head back to my condo. I intended to get some rest but all this conversation with him has my head thinking about my relationship with DTG. I believe him when he says he would still hang out even if he has his money issues straightened out. Right now he just needs a lot of money. It harkens again to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. I nearly at the top of this hierarchy, having the money to (almost) not worry about it, having the means to protect myself in life, have loving friends and family, and have gained a certain security in my awesome job. If I were to have a great friendship with DTG, I need to elevate him to my level, even if its just for our time together, so we can interact like equals, without any outside baggage. I feel about this with Xboy Guy as well. I talked to DTG a lot about Xboy Guy. After Xboy Guy secured money from his farang he was free to see me for free. DTG believes that Xboy Guy really loves me but money is the most important thing for him right now. He needs to live, and support his parents, and love is just secondary. DTG suggests that I keep in contact with Xboy Guy, be there as a friend when he needs me, and go from there. Deep thoughts for a sex tourist trip, I know, but I would rather have this than just use my lizard brain all week. I feel that I do get my money’s worth with DTG. More than just great sex, awesome visuals, and great conversations about anything, I get a small insight on his life, and puts my own life into perspective. And it helps that he is charming as fuck. He escorts me back to the condo. We get to the room and we hug and say our goodbyes for today. I will see him again later this week. I try to get some work and rest for the rest of the day, before my Tawan night. At 8:30 PM I tidy up the condo (no cleaning lady, Advantage: Hotel), make the bed, fold clothes that have been laundered, gather up empty water bottles and toss them in the communal trash bin, and then shower. I am eager to give Tawan another try, maybe see if Boy is there or if Mekhin will give me a smile or any acknowledgement that he knows I am alive. Its slightly raining outside, so I take my umbrella and head over to Tawan at 9 PM. Its early enough that drink payment is not at the door, and one tout is outside to usher me in. I go inside and there were about 10-15 muscled men around the premises, either sitting down on the various couches and chairs in the bar, or on the stage posing and standing. There was one lonely farang having a beer, not talking to anyone, and no other customers. I hate it when I am too early. I wanted to be early so I can stake my claim on the Grade A choices before everyone else comes, but did not like that there were only 2 of us customers here. I say hi to the captain who has been friendly to me in the past. He sits me down at the very center of the seating against the wall, which is the primary seating. He asks me what I want to drink. Whiskey and cola please. While I wait for my drink, I see #17, Tong, a big mountain of a man, standing there. I stare at him and his giant presence. He notices that I am staring and smiles at me, gets off the stage and shakes my hand. That’s interesting. He gets back onstage and I admire his body. Giant shoulders, pecs, thighs, ass. And smile. A giant smile. He poses for me and he sees that I like it. And then one of the Tawan guys shouts to him something in Thai, and then they all laugh. Are they laughing at me? Everyone seems to find it funny and continue to talk about it. To be continued…

Day 10.5: The New Soi Twilight After working for a couple of hours I decide to catch some sleep. Alarm at 8 PM. Decide on not seeing Dream Boy Thai Guy (DTG) just yet. I’m keeping my options open. I am eager to be Butterfly this trip, let’s see if this is really is possible. I shower, run over to McDonalds (I know, gross right, I was craving for a Big Mac) which is just a 5 minute walk on Silom from the condo, and eat the Big Mac on the walk back to the condo. I get back to the condo and eat a second Big Mac (fatty alert). I only had a little curry rice thing to eat all day, and I need all the energy I can get for the (presumably) long night ahead. I boil some water to make some 3-in-1 coffee bought from 7-11. No dinner date tonight so I eat like a college boy. I text Viet Boy from Hot Male. Viet Boy is a “BF” of a friend of mine. We decide to meet that night, not to off him, but just to be my company while in Hot Male: Hot Male is a fairly recent discovery of mine, having only visited Dream Boy, Tawan and Jupiter when in BKK. These bars have worked for me so far, so haven’t had the need to visit others. This past April I went to Hot Male with the (real) BF, and immediately fell in lust with the Viet boys there. Ranging from skinny-muscular to jock-muscular, these boys were handsome, cheerful, and cocky as fuck. I went a second time with Myanmar boy on my last April night in BKK, and again was tempted. Unfortunately I was with company both times so could not off any of the boys. I vowed to come back with a vengeance. Unlike most of the posters here, I’ve had great experience with Viet guys. OK, I’ve only met two Viet guys in BKK, and only on Grindr and both free boys, but both have been very passionate and great in bed. One even became a pseudo-BF last October. This one was a spit fire. 22 year old Viet Guy from Hanoi. Face of a 15 year old, skinny lean muscular body, and his skin smooth and porcelain white. Sex was kinetic bordering on reckless. Almost tore my dick off one time. First night we were together, he was playing around with my cock, and before I knew it, he sat on it bare. I had to pull out quickly, get a condom, lube up, and get back to work. Safe sex is nonnegotiable with me. We grew so close that he invited me to celebrate Tet (Viet New Year) with his family in Hanoi that next February. He grew too clingy eventually, our Line conversations between October and February were intense, and soon he was wanting us to get married after Tet so he can go to the USA with me. I had to shut that down. He hated me for it. I always like testing boundaries in Thailand, sometimes others get hurt, but mostly its me who pays for my experiments. Back to Bangkok, a slight wrinkle in my plans. The recent police raid in Soi Twilight decimated the non-Thai boy population in the bars on the street. Not a problem for Dream Boy, since they only employ Thais. But a problem for all the other bars on the Soi. I’ve heard of stories of boys leaving Thailand to go home because there was no work, and others having to scrape by online or do menial jobs. My friend’s Viet Boy, however, is hanging tough, and is still in BKK. I get to Hot Male and text Viet Boy I was there: He says he was already there at Hot Male and looked for me but did not see me. I text him telling him to check again. I see him by the door and wave for him to come over. He sits down, I mention to mamasan to get him a drink. He says he did not first recognize me just now, because he was looking for the guy in the photo in my profile on WeChat. He says “You no look like photo. You look young now.” Flattery definitely gets anyone everywhere with me J. I hope that was not just a line. Maybe the lighting in Hot Male is very flattering. I am (1) happy that he thinks I look younger, and (2) horrified that I have an older looking photo on WeChat. I change it the next day. Viet Boy looks very handsome, but a bit shaggy and less “manicured” than what I am used to with gogo boys. Maybe not working for two plus weeks as a gogo boy meant that he doesn’t look after his looks as much. Regardless, he still looks good, is very charming, and a smile that will melt your heart. He points to his face and then mine, and says “Same same.” Yes, we are both Asian, but I tell him I am American like my friend, your BF. I ask him if he is OK, considering the lack of employment. He says he is fine and works now as a cook, but only earns 300 baht a day. Undoubtedly he earns more than that a night working at Hot Male, maybe 10 or 15 times more if he’s good, so this lack of gogo employment might mean hard times for him. He says he hopes they allow non-Thais to work soon, but as a result almost all the viet boys working in the bar have gone back to Vietnam, or have moved on to other places in Thailand. He doesn’t want to go back since he thinks it is worse in his home than here. His English is not so good, and my friend prepared me for that, so I was pleasantly surprised I can carry on some type of conversation with him. He is friendly, smiles a lot, is warm, and is touchy-feely. I’m feeling good about the company. I was not offing him, and I think he is horrified of the fact that a top will want to off him, so I just ask him to find me a boy tonight. Without the Viet boys, Hot Male is just not the same. The Thai boys left were just not working for me. I tried hard to look for a good one, and Viet Boy kept on recommending boy after boy for me to take home, saying they can bottom. The viet boys last April really made the bar for me, so now I am just disappointed with the current selection. I just enjoy Viet Boy’s company, his attention, his occasional pecks on my cheek, occasional comments on my looks. In the bar, the first short show comes and goes. Same numbers I saw last April, but since its just the short show it was only about three numbers. A big cock show, a striptease show with two boys wearing coveralls. A candle show with two boys gyrating while pouring hot wax on their torsos. And a chuck wow show with two boys, with one of them cumming onstage. Pretty standard stuff, not really all that special (how jaded I have become). Pretty soon it’s 10:15 PM, and I think of my options. I decide to not wait for the main show because these boys are not doing it for me. I motion to mamasan I am ready to pay. I reach for 300 baht and give it to Viet Boy. I give him one day’s wage he gets being a cook. I wanted to give more but couldn’t justify it with just him sitting with me. I am hoping this goes a long way for him. I pay 800 baht for both drinks. I hope he gets something for the drink as well. I kiss his cheek, he hugs me in return, and I tell him if I am back at Hot Male this week I will let him know. He is thankful for the money and escorts me to the door. I head down the stairs and see that the Soi is alive with punters everywhere, trying to choose between bars. I instantly knew what I needed tonight. I head over to Dream Boy, get recognized by the mamasan from last weekend, and sits me down at a good seat. It was still before the show, so the boys were still onstage advertising their wares. Mamasan points to the stage, and says "What boy you like tonight?" I only needed one boy tonight, and he was onstage that night. Dream Boy Thai Guy (DTG) was there. I wanted to see if he recognizes me among the audience, and wanted to see what his reaction to seeing me would be. Butterfly Status: not looking too good He was on the farther side of the stage when I first get there, but they rotate around so I wait for him to get closer to my side. There are other boys that were trying to get my attention, including boys of off’s past, but I was waiting for the only boy I wanted tonight to see me. The boys were moving too slow. I suddenly think: there was a chance that DTG gets called over by some other bastard before he sees me. This adds to my excitement and forming fear. Heart pounding, every inch DTG gets closer, I get more anxious. Is someone else going to pick him? Some boys get picked and get off the stage. Business is brisk tonight. I sweat, praying that he doesn’t get picked. I almost call mamasan to shout out his number so he can assume his rightful place: in my arms. But I wait. Finally he moves close to where I was. He moves tentatively, smiling a little bit. He scans the crowd. And then it happens, he sees me, and his eyes light up, he flashes his trademark big bright smile and starts laughing. That was so worth it. I play it up, I don’t call him over just yet, I sit there and laugh and mouth the words "I love you." I feel my heart pounding hard and fast. He laughs and he laughs and returns with air kisses. He doesn’t move with the boys and just stands there looking at me while I look at him. I put him and myself out of our miseries and I call him over. I stand and receive his hug and kiss. We sit down and he immediately asks “Why didn’t you text me? I could’ve just met you in your condo.” I told him I had to do something else first and also I wanted to surprise him. I then tell him I am giving him a choice. We can stay here as long as he wanted if he wanted me to buy him a drink, or two, since he gets a cut for it. He asks me if I wanted to see the show, I said not really, I’ve seen it a thousand times before. He says he doesn’t want me to spend any more money in his bar than I needed to. He goes to change, I mention to mamasan I needed to pay up. 450 baht for the drink and 650 for the off fee. DTG comes, finish my drink bottoms up, and we get out of there, just as the show gets underway. He asks me what I wanted to do. I tell him I wanted to show him the condo. He knew what I wanted. We walk about 14 minutes to the condo. He showers, I shower, and then christen the bed for the first time. The sex is more joyful, deliberate, familiar. He knows what I want now, and made sure I get it. I enjoy his smooth, muscular, golden brown body. I loved how it looked in the bar, now even more so in my house, in my bed, in my life. We cum, towel off, and he says he wanted to go back out and drink. We go back to Soi 4 and get comfortable at Balcony Pub and holds hands and be sweet to each other till 1 AM. We get some food at Foodland Patpong and talk our heads off about everything under the moon. We head back to the condo, slow walking it, just enjoying the night, the air cool right after a good rain. We get to the condo, and I yell “Honey, we’re home!” He acknowledges this joke by taking off all his clothes and heading to bed. I strip as well and follow him to the bed. Cuddle, kiss, say good night. I could get used to this.

Good to know DivineMadman! I'll think twice next time.

I have a few more nights to share about Tawan. I will mention the names because they are just too known. Tawan is a peculiar bar. Some of the boy's real names are known by everyone, even though some of them don't want their families to know they work as a gogo boy. Yes some of them don't have cleaning fees, will probably save you $10-20, but generally you won't get a cleaning lady everyday regardless if there is a fee or not. The cleaning will be done after you leave, which is fair to me. Some listings will say if you want cleaning done during your stay you can arrange it with the owner, for a fee for the cleaning lady. Advantage: Hotel, I guess if you're used to have your room cleaned everyday like a hotel. PM me if you want some recommendations. I can't say a lot about it because me and my friend were busy with our own boys. I only noticed it when we were leaving. But no, the guy was not onstage but just in his seat at the center of the bar. Two Tawan guys were sitting next to him helping him out. To me, not as erotic as it should be (two Tawan guys helping a naked customer get off), but probably a treat for some of the punters there. AFAIK, no dedicated BB bars in Pattaya like Tawan, but I've offed Tawan-quality guys from Boyzboyzboyz for less what I would pay in Tawan. Some even are bottoms . If there are enough of them in BBB that night, they get a special number (with them posing with their muscles). Privacy concerns mainly TomNg. If you want me to expand send me a PM. Like vinapu said, I have fun writing these, maybe as much fun as you guys are having with reading these. I primarily write these for me, a chance to remember what happened and process my feelings about it, and there's a lot of stuff I work through when I write. If you guys find it useful, thats a bonus .

Day 10: Condoms and Condos I get great sleep last night; maybe my first full nights rest this week. Dream Boy Thai Guy (DTG) is still (1) very much asleep and (2) very much still wrapped around me. The coldness of the room is a contrast to the sweat that forms where our bodies touch, both of us under the covers. He is the only guy that I can cuddle with and not get woken up. I’m impressed by his physique. Sound asleep, not flexing, and you can still see 6-8 abs and very prominent pecs. I love the sounds of his breathing as he sleeps. He shifts position and turns his back to me. I am big spoon, cuddling him, and feel his strongly muscular torso. He is warm, inviting, too inviting. This is too good to be true. I break away, I take my phone, message PNGguyBKK, telling him I long-timed DTG. He said he knew that we would hit it off. No jealousy, just well wishes. Pretty soon DTG wakes up. It is 12:30 PM and thank goodness I asked for late check-out today. I am only staying one night here at the Crowne Plaza, because I check-in to my AirBNB condo this afternoon for 8 nights. He checks the time and is shocked about the lateness. He apologizes, saying we missed breakfast. I tell him to not worry about it, but told him I did need to get going soon because I needed to check-in to the condo. He hurriedly showers and puts on clothes. He says he needs to take care of some personal things this afternoon, but says he is free for me in a couple of hours after, if I needed him. The butterfly in me is conflicted. Should I continue to see this great guy, or should I take the chance in meeting a new guy tonight? It’s a ridiculous conundrum to have, but that’s what Thailand is, an embarrassment of riches. I tell him I am not sure about my plans tonight, but will let him know if I need him. Maybe keeping my distance is best for now. More than just a dynamo sex object, the brain, the charm, the smile, he is the complete package (and much much more), probably the most dangerous kind of money boy out there. I need to be careful. Before he leaves I give him his money. 3000 baht plus 650 off fee. He thanks me and hugs me and says he hopes he sees me again. He leaves and I hurriedly pack for the condo. Not a whole lot to pack because I only spent one night, but made sure I flushed down the used condom that was used. At 1:45 PM I check out and concierge called a taxi to get me to my AirBNB condo. Wasted the 600 baht I paid for the lounge access (didn’t get happy hour or breakfast), but it was SO worth it getting those extra hours cuddling with DTG. I didn’t fucking care. 51 baht later (I give the cab driver 60), I am on Silom Soi 3 (Soi Phipat). I asked about AirBNB rentals here: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10353-condo-rentals-or-airbnb-in-silom-area/?hl=condo I got great advice from a number of members, especially paulsf who has had extensive experience with renting long-term condos. While I had enough hotel points to cover the rest of the trip (8 nights, 200000 points) to stay at the Crowne Plaza, I wanted to mix it up this trip, and wanted to experience the rental condo market. AirBNB is a fairly easy website to use. Just like most hotel websites, you can choose the place, dates, and even amenities that you need from a place. There are way more amenities that you can choose with a rental property versus just a hotel, like Washer/Dryer, choosing between a whole home/apartment or just a private room or even a shared room, and other amenities like a pool, gym, kitchen and free parking. You can check reviews from other users, and you can pretty much assess if the property is right for you. Doing a cursory search for the Silom area in Bangkok yields around 300+ rentals: https://www.airbnb.com/s/Si-Lom-Bangkok-Thailand?guests=&ss_id=xtytwch9&s_tag=1a3CwYBv It’s a pretty exhaustive list, and the helpful map of the approximate location of the property gives you an idea if it is walkable to Soi Twilight and other popular gay bars (if that’s important to you). With my search I narrowed it down to a place that had a separate living area, kitchen, washer/dryer, internet, with a safe (to protect my passport and valuables), walkable to the BTS Sala Daeng station, and a short walk from Soi Twilight, Soi Tantawan and Silom Soi 4. All for $40 a night. I chose a property that is on Silom Soi 3, across the street on Silom to Soi Tantawan, so it’s fairly close to the action. It’s a 10-minute walk to BTS Sala Daeng. I booked it early May for 8 nights, and immediately got in contact with the condo owner. We set up a time that we can meet so he can give me the condo keys and show me around the property. The whole reservation was $440, which includes a one time cleaning fee and service fee. That’s around $55 a night. A Crowne Plaza might have been $120+ a night including tax. I texted the condo owner the day before to confirm the time, and now, at 2 PM, I call him at the lobby of the property. He lives in the condo property, so he goes down to the lobby and greets me warmly. Without revealing what condo development it is, let me just say that it is a new building, so everything looks new and shiny. He orients me on how to get in the property (key card opens the main door), how to use the elevator (key card operates it). I make note of what floor it is. It is on a high floor. We get to the room. It’s a sleek and modern room. Separate kitchen and living area, dining table, TV in the living and bedroom. Bed is a respectable queen size with modern linens. Bathroom is standard with a shower and no tub. Only two big towels, which might be an issue, but there is a washer and dryer. Instruction sheet on how to connect to internet, phone numbers to call for hospital and police department, as well as the owner’s own information. Fairly efficient and straightforward orientation. The owner is very experienced in renting out the property. After the owner leaves I check out the other amenities. Fairly big refrigerator, but no water bottles in it. No laundry detergent either. Bathroom looks fine, hand soap but no shampoos. Bedroom is dominated by the bed, but I am glad the bed is big and comfortable for obvious reasons. I check out the safe and immediately put my extra 1000 bahts, some dollars and my passport for safekeeping, out of habit. I turn on the AC in the bedroom, it got cold really fast. Good news. I turn on the AC in the living room and same strong AC. I turn on the TV and cycle through the channels but I really don’t watch TV while I am here so I turn it off. I make a list of what I need for the condo (just like home!) and head over to the closest 7-11 which is just a very short walk from the condo. Waters, other drinks, small shampoo, detergent, some snacks and other things. I also buy a microwaveable curry and rice thing for lunch. I take a shower and look at the time. It’s almost 3:30 PM and I assess my options. Grindr maybe? I check, some interesting guys on it, with some obvious money boys. I message old hookups, and get a good response from most. I get into a conversation with PwC guy, who I met up last February trip: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10263-bangkok-and-pattaya-trip-report-feb-2016/?p=88969 He is eager to meet again, but will be available after 6 PM. I tell him I’m in a condo, he says: Alrightey then. I may see him later. But now, I knew I needed to wrap up some work things I did not finish in Hong Kong. I decide on staying “home” and nuking my lunch and making some coffee. I gather up my dirty clothes and do a load of laundry. This definitely feels more like home way more than a hotel. Advantage: Condo While I work I also think about my options tonight. Butterfly? More loving from DTG? I know I promised a friend that I check out his Bangkok BF in his bar. With the recent Soi Twlight bar raid, the non-Thais were driven away from working at the Soi bars. Some had no choice but to go home to their countries, some are toughing it out and finding alternative sources of work. I told my friend that I’ll message his Viet boy if I were ever going to check out Hot Male. Maybe tonight’s the night to check out that bar. Butterfly Status: maybe there is hope To be continued…

I'd say stop worrying about the length of the sex and focus on getting the most out of your sex partner, regardless of the time you spend doing it. Free or paid, the length of my encounters range wildly from 10 minutes to 10+ hours or more, depending on the boy, on what i needed at the moment, and current circumstance (is it a weekend? holiday? only a quick morning blow and go?). Sometimes I can't get enough of a boy's cock and suck on it for hours, sometimes a lick is all I need. Feeding off each other's energy is key for me, and this will mostly determine how long the sex will be. In Thailand, on average I probably take 30 minutes to an hour with a boy, regardless of short time or long time, not counting showering and other non sex things. But I do like making out and foreplay, so this eats up some of the time. Gone are the days that I can fuck a guy for an hour or more straight, though I endeavor to do so once in while.

And looks like I'll miss you again this September :-(. Maybe December? LOL. Hope your other world travel is going good.

Thanks . Don't worry about thinking you missed out on anything, there's plenty of time to make up for it!

Day 9: The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry I don’t get much sleep the night before a flight. I always get anxious with missing my flight, especially if its in the mornings. Couple it with a long night of wholesome fun and waking up to my alarm at 6 AM makes for a horrible way to start my day. I quickly shower, don’t bother getting anything to eat, check-out, and catch a taxi to the airport. I check-in my luggage, get my boarding pass, and boom, I see the initials BKK on my boarding pass. I forgot, I’m going to BKK today! I should be happy! My tired body and headache don’t want me to be happy though. Flight is uneventful. Biz class so I was able to get catch some good zzzs in. Get to BKK around 12:05 PM and pretty soon I’m on a cab with an old uncle taxi driver. The whole car smells like old man soup. Impressively I get to my hotel at 1:45 PM. Crowne Plaza already know me by name and they quickly get me to my room before 2 PM. Free, paid with points, as per usual. Upsell for lounge access for 600 baht. Yes please. So my plan today is see Dream Boy Thai Guy (DTG), the 27 year old gogo boy, at 4 PM. The plan is maybe get some over the sweater action before dinner, and then getting into some under the sweater action after. Hopefully get done by 9 PM at the latest, enough time to shower and head on over to Tawan to get my second helping of Thai hospitality. Butterfly Status: Yes! So much Yes! I try to get some sleep. It’s really not gonna happen as I toss and turn. I give up at 3 PM and send DTG a WhatsApp text. He answers in 5 minutes apologizing and says he just woke up. I’m thinking he is possibly regaining some energy in prep for our rendezvous: We shoot for 5:30 PM. He initially said 6 PM but I said I wanted to cuddle with him before dinner. In reality almost every boy I meet up this way will be late (this is Thailand after all), so if I am right he may be coming at 6 PM or later anyway. I immediately try to get some more shut-eye but the thought of a good looking boy getting to my room in 2.5 hours get me wired. I give up, take a shower, scurry over to Silom Road and get 30,000 baht at a Krungsri ATM (the maximum possible withdrawal, I expect this amount is enough for 9 nights, probably not). Great exchange rate at 35.08 baht to $1, and 200 baht fee for use of the ATM, but I am using my Charles Schwab ATM, which means I get that fee reimbursed at the end of the month. I get me one espresso to go at 7-11 and I get back to Crowne Plaza at 5:40 PM. Like clockwork he messages me, saying he is late and wait for him. Didn’t I call it or what? I look at some work email while I wait. Pretty soon I get a message that he is downstairs. I take the two elevators, get out of the ground floor, and he was there, looking as handsome as ever, flashing me that blindingly effervescent smile of his. That smile alone is worth the price of admission. He walks toward me to hug me, and asks me what I want to do. I said I want to go back to the room and cuddle a little bit. He takes my hand and gets back into the elevator. Back in the room, I try to get the business side of this meeting out of they way. I tell him I was not sure if I want short time of long time tonight, but wanted to agree on a price. He quoted 2000 and 3000, I find this really reasonable. I promised him I’d also give him his off fee (Dream Boy is 650 baht) tonight no matter what time we finish, and if it was short time, he had a choice of going back to his bar for more work and get the night off. He appreciates this and says he will probably just go home. With everything settled I can now focus on relaxing. He sits down in the couch and takes of his shoes. I do the same and proceed to cuddling. He smells great, and mixture of his own scent and a perfume that suited him. He was wearing a simple white t-shirt, but once that hugged his well-developed muscular frame. He pulls me in to put his arm around me, and holds my hand with his other hand. He stares at me, and I study his face. Very handsome, very Thai-looking, and a smile that will just melt your heart. DTG is another anomaly in the BKK gogo boy landscape. Boy from Tawan was an anomaly because he was a small boy in a bar full of big men, DTG was similarly out of place because he is a college graduate, with perfect English, and more sophisticated and wordly than his less polished peers. Talking to him was like talking to a friend. No language barrier because of his perfect English, no cultural barrier because of his worldliness, and with the business end of this meeting out of the way, what’s left is just two guys trying to make a connection with each other. We proceed to make each other comfortable. No urgency in sex, just some making out, feeling, squeezing and hugging. He asks what I wanted to do. I tell him I wanted a nice dinner, maybe a quick drink, and then go back to the hotel and make love. He asks what kind of food I wanted to eat, I tell him since I am in Thailand, I wanted some good Thai food. He settles on Mango Tree near Tawan. An interesting choice since, from what I understand, it is a chain restaurant, and I have not tried it before for some reason. But I trust his judgement. It is raining a little bit so we get the concierge to get us a cab. As the cab enters Soi Tantawan from Surawong Rd, we pass by Tawan and see some boys outside talking and laughing. I tell myself that I’ll be there tonight. We get to the Mango Tree and get seated immediately. We order the duck curry, soft shell crab and a mango salad. Everything was so delicious. DTG does something that is so endearing: he likes feeding me. At the start he shovels some food into my plate, and when he sees I’ve finished the food he gives me more, without me asking or wanting. He is very considerate of my needs, even the ones I was unaware that I needed. Conversation was excellent, as echoed by PNGguyBKK with his experience with DTG. I was honest with him, talking about my life back in the USA, my boyfriend, and why I go to Thailand. I talk about my work in Hong Kong and the USA. He talks about his life and troubles. His family is dirt poor, like most of the working boys. He manages to get himself though university but incurring some debt in the process. He tries hi luck in an office job, but soon realizes that the money simply is not enough to support himself, pay off his debts, and support his poverty-stricken family. Blessed with a handsome face, killer body and a healthy libido he becomes a gogo boy at the ripe old age of 26. He gets the money he needs and more, and loves meeting new people because of it, but does not like the work involved. Between the talking, the eating, and some drinking, we spend almost two and a half hours in the restaurant, with conversation, laughter and just enjoying each other’s company. This boy is meant to be savored, and not rushed through. It is almost 9 PM, and although Tawan is just a few meters away from where we were, it was the furthest from my mind. Short-time never really stood a chance with this guy. Butterfly Status: In big trouble Soon, the food was gone, and there was no real reason to be in the restaurant anymore. I pay the bill, a reasonable 1600 baht for the food and some drinks. He reaches into his own wallet to leave a 100 baht tip. I didn’t want to go back to the hotel just yet. I didn’t want the night to end just yet. Sex can wait (I’m probably the only one in Bangkok to ever say this). I suggest going to Soi 4, and get more drinks to continue the pleasant conversation. From the restaurant we walk towards Silom Rd, make a left and head over to Soi 4. Saturday night, the Soi was buzzing with revelers. Lots of tourists, and you could tell who the working boys were with their respective farang. We squeeze into one of the remaining seats available at Telephone Pub and get our drink orders in. We continue our conversation, have a great chat about cultural differences and advantages and disadvantages of living in Bangkok. One of the cool things about hanging out in the Soi is the people watching. All sorts of characters find their way into the Soi, and half the fun is wondering what the stories of these strangers were. A beautiful statuesque Thai girl walks by, is she a lady boy? Some cute white frat boys walks slowly and tentatively by the pub. Are they gay and if not do they know this is a gay Soi? An older good looking tall farang comes with his way younger and shorter more fem Thai boy. Who’s the top and who’s the bottom? These are the fun games one plays on the Soi while enjoying some drinks and the company. It is 11 PM and we decide on checking out DJ Station. It’s an old favorite of mine and I go there at least once every trip. Still 300 baht which includes two drinks. We both get beers and just check out the overall ambiance and boys. Pretty soon the place gets super packed and movement was almost impossible. Normal times on a Saturday night at DJ Station. We get our second drink and just enjoy the company. The loud music and cramped quarters made it a little hard to talk. But it was spent holding hands and giving each other an occasional kiss, so it was a pleasant time. We get out soon and we go by 7-11 and get some water and snacks. We head back to the hotel, talking all the way to the room. He showers first, I go next. Kissing, sucking, rimming, and I top. He is very considerate, and is very receptive to my needs. I cum while fucking him. I ask him to cum. It doesn’t take much of chuck-wowing and he cums. The way he came though was very peculiar but hot. He comes, sperm cums out in thick gobs, he lets out this very primal scream that surprised me. Every vein in his body pops out and his face makes a very strained look, almost as if he is hurting himself. His abs muscles pop out and his pecs perk up even more. It was a very labored and explosive orgasm. It takes him 15 seconds from cumming to calm down. Even after he says he needs a minute to recover. He is out of breath and is breathing heavily. I wish I could film his orgasm. It is something to behold. We shower again and eat some of the snacks before bed. We settle in bed, cuddle and say our good nights. After the restless day flying, all the activities of the night, and the pleasant exertion of sex with DTG, I fall asleep immediately, with his body intertwined with mine. No thoughts of any silly boys tonight, just him.

Day 4-8: A little more conversation, a little less action Hong Kong for work. Staying at Central, which is the central business district of HK. Hotel walkable to some of the gay establishments. LINQ bar is a favorite, especially on free vodka night, and hanging out on the inclined street outside of the bar. Stuck to talking to Aussies instead of locals, who were kind of cliquey. Didn’t get the chance to check out Zoo bar and Time bar this trip, but have had fun there in previous trips. This is a work trip after all, and need the focus to complete all the stuff I need before heading back to Bangkok. Lots of meeting new work people, meetings, an unfortunate trip to Pizza Hut, and several Dim Sum runs consume my week. I find a young hottie Filipino on Grindr, and get on a dinner date. The sex was wild and satisfying, but he wanted to stay the night. I had to shoo him away to get more sleep. Also, I’m able to write Days -15 to 3 of the trip report during this week. For a span of 2 nights, I am amazed how much stuff has happened. Apologies for being a bit verbose, but I feel not laying out the overall picture lessens the piece. I get way more personal than other posters, and actually prefer it that way. Apart from the members that have met me in person, no one here really knows who I am, and this is my only outlet to share about my Thailand obsession. I do not share much with my BF, because he prefers it this way. My friends who go to Thailand with me, they only know the wholesome parts of my trips. So it’s only you guys out there in Anonymous Internet Land that I can share this to. This affords me the freedom to be both honest and introspective about the whole experience. Having said that, I am under no illusion that anyone will find my ramblings either useful or entertaining. But putting thoughts into paper is the whole point for me in writing these reports. It is obvious that I am currently trying to work through this perhaps unhealthy obsession with Thailand and its men. I fully expect myself to get over this and move on to maybe more practical pursuits (Crocheting? Skeet shooting? Golf?), at some point in the future, but right now I am deeply mired in the country, its men, and its hospitality. Friday, Day 8, and I check-in my flight 24 hours before my flight Saturday. Doing this has made BKK real again. I message paulsf, the board’s resident Hot Male guru, asking about possibilities in the bar, and also talk to vinapu, the board’s resident Tawan guru, asking about Boy and Soda and Mekhin and muscles. I WhatsApp PNGguyBKK, the board’s burgeoning Jupiter guru, and we message constantly everyday, and we talk about boys like we were a bunch of girls in junior high. Since I am not a spur of the moment kind of guy, I try to think of a good way to maximize my day tomorrow. I have 10 days to get as much happy fun so planning is crucial. I get in BKK around 12 noon tomorrow, and if immigration is not busy, and my check-in bag appears early, I can be in my hotel by 1:30 PM. I plan on going to Tawan that night to off Mekhin, or some other comparable slab of meat. Since I’ll check in my hotel early afternoon, I figure I’ll try to get some sleep in, but if I don’t, what are my choices for mid-afternoon company in BKK? I think about Grindr and free guys, its always a crapshoot to find good ones online when you need them the most, and all the successful Grindr hookups I’ve had in BKK have always been when I did not push the issue and not expect anything to happen. I think about massage shops, and always envy others who have fun in them. Massage shops really aren’t my thing. I like to be wined and dined, or wine and dine a special boy, and massage shops just don’t have this. So I think Grindr is too time consuming, and massage shops are too impersonal. So I decide on contacting Dream Boy Thai Guy (or DTG), who was PNGguyBKK’s off last Friday, whose contact I got from my friend. My friend gave him rave reviews, and I always like testing out proven merchandise. I figure booking him the day before is wise, since booking him too early in the week may be bad because most boys have short attention spans, and booking him the day off meant that if he had a long off that night, he might still be asleep when I need him. Our conversation: So that’s set. I have boy mid-afternoon. Have sex, have dinner, feel the love, and then send him on his way to his home so he can have the night off, or go to the bar for (hopefully) more offs. Hopefully he is happy that I pay the off fee and shows me a good time. After that I gear up for Tawan and get <insert straight muscle guy’s name here>. Maybe tomorrow night will be the Mekhin night. If he turns out to be a dud, no problem, I already had good sex with DTG, and it’s story to tell. If he turns out great, awesome! I am a volume off-er, and like to maximize my joy. I go to dinner with some HK co-workers. Dinner turns into drinks. Drinks turn into dancing. And dancing turns into 3 AM. I get back to my hotel and pack as much as I can, and set the alarm for 6 AM.

Thanks. I do worry sometimes that my posts are too long. I write what I see, and sometimes it gets too personal.

The intention of my post is not to trash Soda. I was just narrating what happened. Thank you jr7011 for joining the board and defending your friend, and sharing what he has done for you. Again, with everything here, your mileage may vary. I usually hide the boy's bar number or name in my posts to protect the innocent, but the Tawan boys are so known to everyone here, I thought sharing Boy's and Soda's names would be interesting. Maybe its time to hide their names again in future posts. We'll see.

Day 3: The Soda Tax Some additional thoughts about Day 2.5 that didn’t make it because that post was just too damn long. While we were at Tawan last night, there was a customer, Asian, young-ish, chubby, who was getting jacked off by Mekhin and some other Tawan muscle guy. It was also mentioned by other posters here: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10404-heading-to-bangkok-in-august/?p=92438 It’s interesting to see this, as I’ve never seen this activity in Tawan before. Even more surprised that Mekhin was in on it as well. I had the impression he was a prima donna, but might have to change my feelings on him. Anyway, moving on. I didn’t get much sleep last night. The combination of jet lag, and thoughts of Xboy Guy, and Boy had me wired all night. I am flying to Hong Kong today for work and then flying back in six days for more Thailand fun. I am meeting PNGguyBKK for a final breakfast. After I leave, he is staying 2 more nights in BKK. I pack up all my things. I meet my friend at 9:00 at the buffet. Stock up on food. His tummy is giving him problems. We do our daily debrief of the previous night. I tell him about Boy. The great sex. The pseudo extortion. The request for redemption. He is impressed and looks forward to me offing him again and seeing if the Boy lives up to his promises. He then tells me about Soda. Good off but has some major issues. First issue with him was at the bar. Soda comes over and greets him, they flirt and be touchy feely. Maybe it’s the language barrier but next thing he knew, Soda leaves his side and comes back with street clothes on. He does not remember asking to off him, but Soda may have assumed such and acted accordingly. He says it wasn’t a big deal, because he wanted to off Soda anyway. Second issue was at the restaurant. Soda ordered at 1250 baht steak. That’s more than half of some usual short time fees. He confronted Soda about it later, basically telling Soda how expensive the steak was, and he has heard others complain about him about him wanting extra tip, and basically told Soda that the steak was his extra tip. Third issue: The sex was great, he said, and Soda was a hot hunky guy. Soda was receptive to being rimmed. Soda started fucking him but pretty soon Soda wanted to quit, saying he was tired. My friend was adamant that he finish the deed, so Soda did. My friend thinks that Soda wanting to quit early was a ploy to deliver less and get the same amount of tip since he couldn’t ask for an extra 1000 baht. vinapu had the same experience with Soda, long time at 3000 but wanted an extra 1000: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10403-man-hunting-in-bangkok-report-of-trip-of-june-2016/?p=92269 My friend said that Soda told him that he was a taxi driver back in Laos, so he maybe is accustomed to cheating people of their money. vinapu has mentioned that Soda is probably too businessman-like to be a good off, and both have said once is enough with Soda. Too bad, because PNGguyBKK thought the sex was great, and at times exceeded his expectations, except for that being tired excuse. vinapu has told me that Soda has taken Boy under his wing and may be teaching him how to extort more money from customers. vinapu has said that Boy may be starting this trend as well, as seen by the plea of that extra 1000: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10403-man-hunting-in-bangkok-report-of-trip-of-june-2016/?p=92384 This makes me conclude that Boy may not be a good long time off after all. We shall see how I feel when I get back to BKK next weekend. I am pretty generous with my tips, and judging from the other posts here, I tip on the high-ish side, but I do not like the extortion that I’ve been seeing with these two. Another thought: that Tawan guy who interrupted our meal last night telling the boys it was his birthday and there was a party, may be the reason why Soda and Boy wanted to leave early or do only short time, so they can attend the birthday party. I’d actually have no problem if this if this was the excuse. HBD parties are fun, having been invited to a few in Jomtien in trips past. When breakfast is over, we say our goodbyes. PNGguyBKK and I have built a friendship these past few days, and we made sure that we would see each other in future BKK trips. It is much easier for him to go to BKK since he lives in the same peninsula as Thailand. It takes me no less than 17 hours to get to BKK from Los Angeles. I check out of the Crowne Plaza (0 baht for stay due to points redemption, 1200 baht for two days of lounge access), take a cab to Suvarnabhumi (500 baht including tolls), disappointed that I am not flying business class this time because I wanted to sleep the whole way to Hong Kong (first world problems). The coming work week in Hong Kong will distract me from boys and thinking of Xboy Guy, but I know that I’ll be back for more mischief and heartache in 6 days. I take off my Thailand fantasy hat, and put my real world hat back on as I board my plane to Hong Kong and reality.

I've had great luck with them, at least in Thailand. I have the Spire status with IHG, and at the Intercontinental Bangkok I've been given a suite upgrade and free buffet breakfast (which is a big deal if you've had breakfast there), and the Holiday Inn Resorts Phuket I was upgraded to one of the Busakorn Villas (which are really really nice) and also free breakfast. The Busakorn wing has its own set of pools and restaurants (thereby avoiding the riff raff). All this for booking the entry-level room.

Thanks. He is like a predator, yes. He knows how to stalk you and what it takes to go for the kill. His stare makes you believe that you are what all he was looking for all his life. I think that is why he earns such high praise from other customers like vinapu or you. I think I notice a slight feeling of detachment from all the boys I get. It takes them 2 or 3 more offs to let their guard down and finally warm up to me. That's why I am a fan of being semi-butterfly and offing a boy multiple times a trip.

orson, I never book a room on the Crown Plaza lounge floor because I usually use points and not pay for the room. With points you can only book their entry-level room. With my status, they always upgrade me to the Deluxe room which is bigger and more amenities. When I started going to BKK in 2014, they always gave me complimentary access to the lounge, either giving me a room on the lounge floor, or programming my hotel room card for access to the lounge. In 2015 for some reason they stopped giving me my complimentary lounge access. They do the upsell for me though, giving me access to the lounge for 600 baht a day. I always accept because it means free breakfast, free happy hour drinks and food in the afternoon, unlimited trips to get drinks, coffee and snacks all hours of the day till 11 PM, and a laundry allowance of 500 baht daily. Good deal for me since I don't pay for me room. This trip they did something different. I get lounge access with the additional perk of choosing to go to breakfast to either the lounge or at the main restaurant buffet on the 23rd floor. The main buffet is 5 times bigger than the lounge's so this adds to the value of the 600 baht. Never had problems taking a boy to the lounge and him getting free breakfast or free happy hour food and drinks. Never had to be registered and sometimes take different boy in the morning and evening to the lounge.

Thank goodness you (and others) enjoy the reports. I was worried no one was reading because the reports are really long. I have no problem paying more, especially if it is worth it, like Boy, but not to keen on the extortion. I like agreeing to a tip in the bar, and if the performance is really good, I almost always tip more. If we agreed on 3000 LT at the bar and then next morning get hit up for 4000 I will not feel good about it. If his performance is great he might get 4000 from me anyway. Its a business yes, but pretend at least to not be too business-like with your transactions. They are selling a fantasy, and being too business-like takes me away from liking the off.

Day 2.5: Two Lao and two Americans walk into a bar… I am visibly affected by recent events, so PNGguyBKK gives me sage advice: that “You can’t do anything about it tonight, so why not enjoy the night?” Good advice indeed, but find it hard to execute with my heart feeling like it broke in a million pieces. I get another coffee martini, and the caffeine in it wakes me up while the alcohol calms me down. We decide that the sight of handsome boys will take me out of my current troubles. We decide on going to Jupiter, since the boys there are both very handsome (to distract me) and somewhat cold (so I avoid falling in love with them). I compare getting a boy in Jupiter to going to see a classic painting in a famous museum: you’ve heard about it, pay the fee to see it, it’s nice to look at, but if you get it in your bed, it just lays there. Everytime I go to Jupiter ,the place is packed. So we try to get there an hour before the show to get good seats. Sure enough there were only about 6 customers there, so we get good seats in the center. We order drinks (350 baht each) and proceed to admire the Grade A boy selection onstage. With the exception of few boys, the selection at Jupiter is consistent: tall, lean, light-skinned boys. Matinee idol looks, like what you see in Chinese cinema or KPop boy groups. And this is reflected on the customer base as well, as it is mostly Chinese/Asian. As the place fills up, it is apparent that my friend will be the only white farang in the premises. Back to the boys, most of them are stunners. There is one particular stunner that I take a fancy to. He has no number, and of all the times I’ve seen him here he has never had a number. He is young, light brown skin, handsome and cocky, hair fashionably styled, and has an amazing naturally youthful lean muscular body, and an expression that knows he is the fairest of them all. He is the Mona Lisa of Jupiter, with punters jockeying to take selfies in front of, but always guarded by museum staff because he is just too valuable. I find out later that he is a long term off situation with a customer. I don’t blame that customer. If I got this boy in my hands, I’d lock that shit down fast. There was also #60, talked about here: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10409-jupiter-last-night/?p=92548 Famously known to be an arrogant ass (some board member’s words, not mine), he also does not have a number tonight, but we later find out that he was offed early by an elderly straight couple. Some of the “non-star” boys are stunning as well. The tall, lean, cocky ones are really great to look at, but you have a feeling they would be duds in bed. I could be very wrong though, but I probably don’t want to find out tonight. Some good to average ones, and one a little bit chunky but my friend went gaga over, #51. He is a little bit chubby, darker skinned, and a little out of place compares to his more lithe and lighter skinned coworkers. My friend narrates his experience with #51, among other great Jupiter insight: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10409-jupiter-last-night/?p=92560 The show begins with all the boys onstage, dancing anemically to the song “Boys Boys Boys” by Sabrina. This dance number is a great microcosm of the Jupiter as a gogo bar. As Sabrina sings the lyric: “Boys, boys, boys, I’m looking for a good time. Boys, boys, boys, get ready for my love”, the boys half-heartedly try to move in the simple choreographed steps, with what one would only describe as “indifferent dancing”. The song conveys what we customers want the boys know about our intentions for them tonight (I’m looking for a good time, get ready for my love), while the boys react in classic Jupiter fashion: gorgeous visuals paired with detached aloofness. With that abortion of a number done, the succeeding dance numbers are markedly better. The “Hotel California” number has four gorgeous guys, sitting on stools smoking real cigarettes, in button downs and jeans, with one emaciated drag queen acting as the audience surrogate. She circles the boys while the song is played, with her acting some version of seduction with each boy. She gets to sa-moke as well, or at least act out giving a blow job to each boy with his back turned to the audience. The show climaxes with a climax, or the Jupiter equivalent of it, which means the visuals showing the act, without actually committing to it (the boys keep their jeans on, the drag queen mercifully keeps her clothes on as well). The boy stunner is in this number, and for some reason him with more clothes makes him even hotter. His whole allure at this point is, the more unattainable he is, the more you want him. Every succeeding number gets more risqué as the night drags on. There is a strip tease number by this gorgeous tall and lean boy with a handsome face, and one other guy that I forgot was there with him. They strip tease to the tune of “The only thing that looks good on me is you” by Ryan Adams. The gorgeous guy’s dance moves are on point, and as every item of clothing falls off, so do his inhibitions. Everyone is transfixed on this guy. He is a great dancer, sure, and his body is ridiculously ripped. But it is his face: his well-timed smirks, his audience eye-contact, and him mouthing orgasms that makes you believe he is close to exploding, are what sells the number to the audience. The show ends with both boys simulating chuck-wowing and cumming by putting a phallic shaped lotion bottle where their erect penis should be, and they cum on their muscular torsos by pumping the white lotion on them. Naturally, the gorgeous guy takes this a step further and rubs the lotion all over his perfect torso, completing the seduction, and ensuring he will be offed for the night. Indeed he gets snatched up immediately after that number, by a gaggle of shrieking Thai girls. That other guy did not have a prayer. Everyone forgot he was there. There are other numbers. Some drag queen numbers. Guys in only towels showing ass. Guys in mesh briefs gyrating and you can see their cocks through the mesh. #60 was in that number, and you can see a respectable sized cock. But his was dwarfed by this other tall light skinned stunner, he had a cock the size equal to the other 3 boys he shared the stage with combined. One number again with gorgeous dance guy, this time he simulated fucking the emaciated drag queen. He again sells it to everyone, and the dry-humping lasts a good while. You can imagine that if this was real, the queen would not be able to walk for a few days, because the boy was selling it, and selling it hard. He was so good, he actually sold it to himself as well, because when the number was done, he was sporting a full erection in his skimpy briefs that can barely contain his cock. EVERYONE is transfixed on his crotch. This was all well and good, but I was half distracted from all this sexiness. I’ve been getting texts from Xboy Guy that takes me out of the moment. PNGguyBKK gets irritated by my moping during the numbers, and tells me, in true aggressive and honest American fashion, that I was sort of ruining his night. I go to the bathroom, get my cry on, take a deep breath, and come back better. I apologize to him, saying that I shouldn’t let a boy ruin our night of fun. I have fun the rest of the night, and leave Jupiter with a keen sense of its place in the BKK gogo boy scene. Like Tawan, Jupiter is a specialty gogo bar, with the boys adopting a very specific look and attitude. It is a bar that you can take your girl best friend to, or even your mom, because there are no explicit numbers. It’s like the “Magic Mike” experience: an emphasis on seduction and not objectification. A lot is left to the imagination, and there is the illusion that everyone’s dignity is still left intact. I try to salvage what’s left of my own dignity by asking my friend what bar he wants to go to next. It is 11:45 PM, so all the main gogo boy shows are done, and the second, shorter shows remain. We decide on Tawan again, because why not. When we get there, the bar is almost empty, with about 10 or 11 punters scattered around the premises, as opposed to a full house last night. The “boys” outnumber the patrons. We get seated right in the front of the stage, where some daddy muscle guy starts gyrating and grabbing his crotch to get our attention. There was something sad about the setup. Tawan almost empty does not look appetizing. Mekhin was there still unoffed, surprisingly. I think about offing him if he gives me some attention. After a few sips of my drink I needed to pee. I go to the bathroom I choose a stall and while I let out my piss, I hear a boyish voice ask me “Where you from”. I turn around, carefully keeping my cock aimed at the urinal, and see Boy, a younger Lao Tawan guy, at the next stall over, with his cock out but not peeing. He is on the prowl tonight, it seems, and is trying to give me some attention. I finish peeing, zip up, and I say “I from America. California. Los Angeles” He says “Wow, I thought you Chinese” and then just stares into my eyes for a while. I look into his, we have the same eyes. And then he asks, “I sit with you?” I snap out of my staring and say “Maybe. I no sure. Tawan guy no good me.” I play it coy. I find my seat, and see my friend wrapped around Soda, an older muscular Lao guy. Soda gave my friend attention the night before, and now is giving my friend the attention he has been wanting tonight. I am relieved at least one of us may have company tonight. The show starts, and Mehkin is in a thong. This is the only proof anyone ever needs of the existence of the divine. I can see why Mekhin is legendary. That guy is made to be worshipped. Every muscle, every vein, every bulge and every curve is carefully sculpted by years of deliberate muscle building. I consider trying to make eyes to see if he notices me. And then out of the corner of my eye, there is Boy, having found me, and now trying to make the sale. He bends down to kiss me, and aims for my nose (that was cute). OK fine, let’s see what this boy is about. Boy, the 29-year-old Lao guy, is a Tawan anomaly. He is lean, not overly muscled, and is younger than 30. His boyish looks pop out relative to his other, older, bulkier coworkers. He sits down, I mention to captain to get him a drink. He immediately cozies up to me. He smells amazing. He then stares again into my eyes, and does this for a very long time. He asks me questions, never taking away his stare. I tell him that my impression of Tawan guys are they only are here to be worshipped. I like to be made love to, with lots of kissing and body contact. I tell him I don’t think Tawan caters to my needs. So he treats this as a dare, and wraps himself around me, kisses me deeply, and touches every bit of my torso and back. He whispers “I like you look. You look good.” Whispers directly in my ear, and then nibbles it for flourish. This guy is very good. He continues with the staring, and he comes to a point where he looks into my left eye, and then my right eye, and then again my left again. I wonder, is there something wrong with my eyes tonight? Maybe he sees I’ve been crying. I snap out of this Boy daze and turn to PNGguyBKK. Soda is now gone. But in a flash, Soda is back with clothes on. I say “Oh, you offed him. Good choice.” My friend says “I guess I offed him. I don’t know how it happened.” I laugh, and then feel a mouth nibble my neck. It’s Boy again, trying to get my attention. I kiss him full in the lips, and he gives me a deep satisfying kiss. I am so hot for this guy. I think for a minute, and tell him “OK, you sleep with me tonight. Put on t-shirt.” He kisses one last time and leaves to change. I get another sip of my drink and realize that I am rock hard. And not only that, my crotch is wet from pre-cum. I’ve got so turned on that I leaked so bad. This is a good sign. I am officially Boy crazy. Boy comes back, we pay up. I pay 900 baht for Boy drink and off fee, while my friend pays my drink (he owed me for Jupiter), his drink and Soda’s drink and off fee. I ask is anyone hungry, and Soda immediately answers yes. So we go to the Baru-za Restaurant and Bar next to Tawan. I order a shrimp omelet which I don’t eat. Boy some little burger thing. PNGguyBKK orders chicken skewers. Soda orders a gigantic steak the size of my head, and a glass of wine. We have good conversation about Lao, America, California, and Bangkok. Soda and PNGguyBKK are talktative, Boy and I are quiet. In the middle of the meal, one of the older muscle Tawan guys, in street clothes, comes up to us and talks to the Lao guys in Thai. Boy then tells me that it was that guy’s birthday, and there is a party. We part ways, me and the Boy, PNGguyBKK with his Soda. The Boy and I walk to the Crowne Plaza, and on the way Boy asks every block if we were there yet. That was odd. We get to the room. I sit Boy down in the couch, and gently peel off his clothes. Boy smiles the whole time, kisses me when he can, until he is naked. He is one hot motherfucker. Lean boy, lots of tattoos, great cock. And sweet as fuck. Boy asks me to shower, and says he has showered. I do my best, and come back with boy reclining, stroking his hard cock, I lean down and partake in his treasures. Lots of deep kissing, body contact, dry humping. Nibbling, rubbing, caressing. He sure knows how to take instructions. All the while staring at me, not taking his gaze off of mine when he could. After a good while I come up for air and tell him, “I long time you now.” He then looks at me, thinks about it hard, and then says “Long time 5000 baht.” I was floored. That took me out of the moment completely. I pull away and stare into the ceiling, rubbing my head. I’ve offed a bad one. He then pulls me back to him and kisses me deeply, tentatively at first, and then full throttle until I give in. I can’t be indignant for long with that show of passionate aggression. We continue with it as if nothing happened. I ask him to cum. He chuck wows himself while I watch by his side. He is taking too long to cum. What he does next surprised me. He reaches for my head with his left hand so my face is against his, and he proceeds to deep kiss me, guiding my head with his left hand, as he jacks himself off with his right one. It takes him 10 minutes to cum and all the while kissing me. He then chuck wows me while kissing me and I cum like a gusher. I towel off and tell him “Short time only”. He nods, and then goes to the bathroom to shower. He comes out and puts his clothes back on. I give him his 2000 Baht short time fee and raise my hand up to say goodbye. He sits beside me and points to himself and says “I OK” and then points to me “You no OK, I know.” I tell him 5000 baht is a lot of money. He says he really can’t do long time tonight and gave me that huge number so I am guaranteed to say no. He says he has to be on his mocy early morning tomorrow, and can’t be late for an appointment. I accept this explanation and feel better about it. He than adds “Next time go Tawan, off me. We go slow next time, love all night. Better next time I promise.” He then says “I go long next time. Slow love next time OK. If you no like, you can say me go away. I OK.” We exchange Line, and I feel better about the off. He leaves the room. I was hoping he would stay the night so I can forget about Xboy Guy. Instead I am alone in my bed, the bad feelings return as fast as they left earlier with Boy’s help. Thailand giveth, and Thailand taketh away.

It was slightly raining that night and since my friend and boy had the cab already, we decided to take the cab with them, and assumed we would be getting off first on Rama IV before heading over to Soi 14. Coming from Surawong Rd driving towards Rama IV, if you make a right turn on Rama IV, you'll end up on the other side of the divided road across from Crowne Plaza. The driver was supposed to flip a u-turn on Rama IV once we hit Silom Rd, but instead of a u-turn, he just made a right turn, and continued on to Soi 14 on Silom. He made a u-turn on Silom, dropped the boys off, and then made our way back to Rama IV, making a left turn, and the hotel was just at the direct left side of the street. 80 baht. TL;DR: Dream Boy Thai Guy didn't know where Crown Plaza was at first so directed cab driver to go to Soi 14 first. Yes, the Crowne Plaza, if you can afford it, is the best (Western-style) hotel closest to Soi Twilight for me, thats why I book it every time I visit. No one even check boy ID in that place. It's the only place I've ever stayed to be close to Soi Twilight apart from the Holiday Inn Sathorn, which is a bit of a walk. No problem taking boy(s) in.

Day 2: A Tale of Two breakfasts Alarm was set at 9:15 AM. Xboy Guy said last night he needed to leave by 12 noon to get back to Pattaya. Still jet lagged, I wake up at 7:30 AM, even after the late night activities. I play with my phone while waiting for the alarm. Pretty soon PNGguyBKK messages me asking what’s for breakfast. I invite him to join us at the Crowne Plaza breakfast buffet. 9:15 AM alarm comes and pretty soon so do I and Xboy Guy. I love morning quickies. I simply cannot get enough of this guy. We lay back down and I ask him, since his farang is finished with him, if he could come back to BKK in 1 week, when I get back from Hong Kong, to stay with me for the rest of my trip. Before reuniting with Xboy Guy, I fully intended to off everything in sight when I come back, but now, I have the boy I will ever need, maybe forever, so the whoring around is not needed anymore. Butterfly Status: Not a chance He asks about details, and agrees to come back in 7 days to stay with me for my final 10 days in BKK. I wanted to ask about his farang, but did not want to pry. He takes his phone and goes to the bathroom to freshen up and it takes him a while to come out. When he does, he looks distracted. I ask him if “everything ok”. He says yes. We meet PNGguyBKK at the 23rd floor where the hotel restaurant is. It is 10:15 now, and we are quickly reminded by the efficient hotel staff that the breakfast buffet ends at 10:30, and we should get everything we need now. We do exactly that, like it was our last meal. Great western and chinese/thai breakfast items. Bacon, cheeses, breads, rice, cereals, congee, dimsum etc. We all sit down to eat. I notice Xboy Guy only got a few items. I ask again “Everything ok?”. He smiles and says yes he is just not hungry. This was a first for him, as he is usually very hungry and piles on the food. Something must be wrong. PNGguyBKK talks about his off. His off Dreamboy Thai Guy (DTG) is his late night acquisition from Boys Bangkok/Dream Boy last night. I gave him advice on what usually works for me: to ask the boy first if he was hungry and if he is, buy him some food. It starts the off out on a good note, and the time eating can be used to get to know each other, and hopefully is a great chance to get comfortable with one another. This may not work for a lot of people, especially since you’ve already spent money on your bar drink, the boy’s drink, the bar’s off fee, and, in the end, the boy’s tip. The last thing you probably need is to spend even more money on your’s and the boy’s food. But for me, the time spent in getting comfortable with each other, the great conversation, and eating the good food this country is known for, is part and parcel of the experience of most of my successful offs. You get to know the boy as a human being, and not just a conglomeration of sexy body parts that you initially fell in lust with onstage in a dark bar. If you’re lucky, this tiny but significant gesture may very well tip the scales between a just OK off, and a mind-blowing amazing one. Your mileage may vary. DTG says yes, he is hungry, so off to dinner they went, and they have a lovely conversation. My friend says they actually went into pretty heady stuff, and he was impressed that DTG was able to follow the conversation. He said they even talked about the “military industrial complex”. I figure if you start talking about the United State’s outrageous defense spending to a gogo boy, you’re probably doing it wrong. But that’s just me. Because the conversation was so good, dinner went long, and when they got back to the hotel it was very late. The sex was pretty hot, he said, and DTG loved the long rimming he got from my friend. When it got to DTG topping, there came the problem. It was close to 4 AM when they got to do the deed, and maybe it was because of the long night, but DTG could not stay hard. I explained this phenomenon to Xboy Guy, and he says “Oh, cock not strong.” It’s obviously a foreign concept to Xboy Guy, at least from what I’ve seen from him. Cock is always, always very strong with him. Overall it was a good time, my friend said. And the guy was hot enough that it didn’t matter if “cock not strong”. My friend didn’t even cum, which to me this time was a foreign concept. I cum every single time, no matter how bad the going gets. My friend was clearly smitten, impressed by the pretty face, hot body and smart brain combo that DTG has. Tip was 2500 baht. I tell him if it was OK if I offed him in the future. My friend said he will get jealous but said it was OK. I tell him I would only do it because I am curious and want to try, but obviously, there a ton of other boys out there. If he had a problem I wouldn’t do it. Bros before hoes and all that. We finish breakfast, and notice Xboy Guy has not finished his little breakfast. I ask PNGguyBKK to wait for us while we get Xboy guy's things, because I wanted to hang out with my friend at the mall after Xboy Guy leaves. He says yes and waits at the lobby. We go up to the room and my guy packs up his stuff. He finishes and hugs me tightly. He kisses me and says “I love you. You my boyfriend.” I tear up a bit and say “I love you too”, you sweet sweet boy. I compose myself enough to reach into my wallet to get 2500 baht (long time tip, I figure would be fair). He says no need, “I free.” I insist, because I remember he did not take my money the last time we met: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10263-bangkok-and-pattaya-trip-report-feb-2016/?p=89389 He still says no. I take 1000 baht and tell him “For taxi.” He still refuses. He goes to the bathroom to pee, and I take that chance to put the 1000 baht in his bag. I have to give him something. We say our private goodbyes, tell him I will see him in 7 days, and then head down to meet up with PNGguyBKK and make our way to Silom Rd. Xboy Guy gets a cab, hugs both of us, mine was a little bit too tight, and takes off. PNGguyBKK and I go to Silom Complex and look for coffee, or our “second breakfast”, the breakfast we debrief about last night and dish about the BKK gogo scene over all, away from Xboy Guy’s young ears. We choose Starbucks because we believe in supporting our home-grown American enterprise. We talk some more about last night. My friend says he wasn’t bothered that DTG “cock not strong”, but definitely would want to do it again when he is fully rested. I suggest offing him before the show so you can end the night early and he will guarantee to have full energy. Fast forward to a few days later, I get DTG Whatsapp, and ask him about the “cock not strong” incident: What can I say, I am a good friend. I send this info to PNGguyBKK. He is satisfied with the explanation. I talk to my friend more about falling for the boys in BKK. Yes, I have a BF, yes I am committed to him no matter what. But I’ve always thought that the feeling you have on the first few days after falling in love with someone is the best feeling in the world. Maybe I didn’t get enough love as a kid, maybe I am just an emotional junkie, but I love the feeling of how falling in love makes me feel. I fell in love with BF 8 years ago, and still in love with him to this day. But that feeling of falling in love with someone, and then discovering more things about him that makes you fall in love even more, there is just nothing else like it. I have let myself fall in "love" in Thailand many times over, and have had breakups that were benign and awful, but to me the discomfort of breaking up is negligible in comparison to the high you get. People go to Thailand for many different reasons. A lot of them go for the cheap sex. I go for the chance to experience people. I like getting to know the boys, patiently talking to them as they unwrap their lives for me, one "long time" after another, till I can’t get any deeper. Sometimes I am lucky and the boy opens up to me. And there’s the miniscule chance that in this process, I care for the boy, and when the one in the million chance that the boy cares for me as well, I say it is a success. I know it is a doomed relationship, sure. Everything is so temporary here in Thailand. I’ve never gotten to that last step, till now. I think I have it with Xboy Guy. Maybe it is love, I am not sure, but it sure feels like it. Oh yeah, I go for the cheap sex too, but it is secondary to actually experiencing the people. I live most of my life back in California, having the rewarding job, the kickass BF who loves me for some reason, and the overall busy but satisfying life. But for about 8 weeks, or so, in a year, I want to take a break from all of that… stability… and allow myself to make mistakes, commit poor choices, and have my heart broken. The beauty of this is, I can throw it all away as easily as I throw away my used airplane boarding passes. There is a time that you need that boarding pass to get somewhere, but once you are there, you can just toss that piece of paper aside as you get to your true destination. I have a feeling that Xboy Guy is not as disposable. My friend and I make plans to meet later at 7:30 PM for dinner and drinks and then a night of boys. This is probably the only night I have to myself without Xboy Guy in Thailand, so I will take the opportunity to off a guy tonight. We part ways, I go back to my hotel. I take two sleeping pills, jack off to some Japanese gay porn, and sleep for 4+ hours. I wake up, shower, and head off to Silom Complex to meet my friend. We talk about food choices, and tell him I’ve had success with Eat Me restaurant. We get there, the place is packed, and there is a 30 minute wait. We go back to Silom Complex and settle on some Pepper Chicken. Xboy Guy Lines me, asks what I was doing, and I send him a pic of us at the restaurant. He sends a cutesy emoji. We finish eating and decide on going to Soi 4 for a drink before heading to the gogo bars. Xboy Guy keeps lining me about small talk stuff. We get to Soi 4 to Telephone Pub and I order the same I had last night, the Espresso Martini. I’m still feeling dead from jet lag, and this drink really is a godsend for 110 baht. I finish half my drink when I get a series of Lines from Xboy Guy: “Can not see you BKK 1 week”, “Farang ask me go back”, “Him not finish me”, “I sorry I love you”, and “I no good but I love you”. I do not want to take a screenshot of our conversation now, because my answers are, to be blunt, pathetic, and I don’t want you to see this. I sounded like a jilted schoolgirl. I plead why can’t you see me even for a little bit. I say I love him so much. I tell him I want him to stay with me forever. I do a lot of begging, to not avail. I felt like the world was ending. I felt that I was given a taste of a life I want to have, only to have it taken away from me before I can get a full bite. I try not to cry in front of PNGguyBKK. This sucks. To be continued…

I did not off soda. Yes I go to Tawan to see big guys. I am not a big spender, but I get the hugs anyway. Mostly from Tiger and Phet, and now Tong.

Day 1.5: The Tawan Dream Boy I snap out of this romantic revelry to orient PNGguyBKK of how the BKK gogo bars here are laid out. Far from being the expert, I try my best to explain what I know, I tell him about where Jupiter’s Soi is, where Soi Twilight is and what bars are there, where Tawan is. I tell him about drink prices, that are high because they are actually more like the cover charge to pay for the entertainment onstage. Off fees were discussed as well, as well as the concept or Short Time and Long Time offs. We discuss about possibilities for tonight, and decide on going to Tawan first because PNGguyBKK is “looking for an older muscular top who can be rough”. Fits Tawan to a T I think. We get there around 9:45 PM. The place is half full, and get some decent seats towards the right side of the stage. Some of Tawan’s famous musclemen are onstage, advertising their wares. Since this is PNGguyBKK’s first trip to a gogo bar, he is immediately mesmerized. We sit down, get some drink orders in. PNGguyBKK is freaking out with just about everything. I appreciate this, as I remember how I was when I first went to a Thailand gogo boy bar. It was also Tawan, and I had the same feeling of awe of the men onstage and the acts that was going on. Now I feel jaded about the whole thing, so I appreciate feeling PNGguyBKK’s excitement about discovering everything for the first time. Tawan is a lot to take in for sure, not only because of the men in speedos, but because the men were also a lot physically to take in. Bulging muscles in tight speedos, smiles as big as the Pacific, and hugs that are between affection and suffocation. Xboy Guy looks on with a mix of wide-eyed wonder and confusion. He asks “Why all big. No understand.” I explain to him what Tawan is all about. He is used to Pattaya quality gogo boys. I point to Tawan Lao men Tiger and Boy: “See, no all big, some no big.” Tiger interprets this as a sign that I want him to come over, and makes his way towards me and greets me warmly. I have offed him twice before. I smile and shake his hand and put my arm around Xboy Guy. Tiger says his goodbyes. Xboy Guy then gives me a hard time knowing a boy here. He thinks I have offed everyone here. I laugh and just kiss him. Tiger is interesting. My first off with him was excellent, the second one he was sick but still tried, as narrated here: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10263-bangkok-and-pattaya-trip-report-feb-2016/?p=88973 In April I went with my (American) BF to Tawan. I am more discreet with my boy crazy antics around BF, so I was nervous going to Tawan having Tiger or any of the other boys recognize me and saying hi. Sure enough we walk in and get sat down, and there was Tiger smiling at me. I locked eyes with Tiger, sort of shaking my head to signal that I was with my BF. He got it right away, and after a few minutes, he went up to us, introduced himself and talked to us as if it was his first time talking to me (and us). He did pry about our relationship, asking some questions about it. When we left I gave him a 100 B tip. He is a professional. The legendary Mekhin was there, as was #17 who got a good eye fucking from PNGguyBKK. While waiting for the show he asks me for tips on how to pick a guy. I tell him what many have said on this board: if a guy smiles at you, or is trying to get your attention, and you like his look, have him sit next to you, buy him a drink and get to know him better. You can probably gauge from there if he is your off for the night. I can tell that PNGguyBKK is on maximum sensory overload. There is just so many boys to see and ogle over. Xboy Guy is holding on to me tightly, half probably for protection, and half to stake his claim over me. The show starts. All the same stuff I’ve seen before. Though Mekhin was a more active participant, and is in a bunch of “dance” numbers” No one really dances I guess. Nothing more awkward than seeing a 200+ pound overly muscular guy in a speedo try to dance. It’s more S&M centric than I’ve ever seen before. Leather vests, harnesses, a leather mask, and some type of "whip" which I doubt hurts anyone. They have a variety of costumes as well, but no matter the costume they all always end up in speedos. Egyptian outfit, Roman outfit, S&M outfit. My favorite number was Mekhin and one of the taller muscular guys doing an actual dance number to the song "Sex Bomb" by Tom Jones. They were in skin tight jeans and shirtless. Even if they weren’t in speedos, this number was actually more erotic than the other more explicit ones, because they seem to be actually into the dance, they are in perfect physical shape, and something is left to the imagination. I start to think I have to off one of these guys this trip. As I think this Xboy Guy continues to keep me close during the numbers. The show ends around 11:30 PM. PNGguyBKK thinks hard in offing a guy, but he says no one is really smiling at him or anything. I tell him we can check out Soi Twilight and see what is happening. We pay our bill (400 baht each for one drink, I pay Xboy Guy’s) and start to head out. Suddenly PNGguyBKK gets a huge smile and gets touched by Soda, a Lao muscle guy in his 40s. I ask him if he wants to know Soda more. He says no, and says since he still has 3 more nights in BKK he can go back for more Soda. We get to Soi Twilight and choose Dream Boy, which was actually at Boys Bangkok for their short 12:15 AM show. With the recent raid in Soi Twilight fresh in my head, I imagine a half full boy population on stage because only Thais are allowed to work. No, there were still easily 40 boys onstage. Which is impressive because there are a good number of boys sitting down with customers, and probably more not there due to being offed earlier in the night. I learn later that Dream Boy only really employs Thais. Less of a headache that way. Smart business move. We sit down, get our drinks, Xboy Guy protective as usual. Mamasan who takes our drinks also encourages us to get boys. Xboy Guy interjects in Thai, then tells me that he told mamasan that we were boyfriends. Interesting. Maybe his way of telling mamasan to stop encouraging me to get a boy. PNGguyBKK is again mesmerized by the boy pile onstage. He zeroes in on two handsome Thai guys. One, my BF experience guy last February: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10263-bangkok-and-pattaya-trip-report-feb-2016/?p=89011 The other one was a Thai stunner, short, handsome, and muscular abs and pecs protruding off his sexy frame. Lets call him Dream Boy Thai Guy (DTG) I encourage him to call on DTG over to sit with him. PNGguyBKK is shy and doesn’t want to. I get mamasan in the act, and pretty soon all three of us were encouraging him to call on DTG. I ended up telling mamasan to get DTG to sit with us anyway, and made the decision for my friend. He sits down, and flashes us his zillion watt smile. What a smile. I think it lit up the dark bar. I let my friend chat up DTG. DTG has better English than most gogos, and him and my friend get more comfortable with each other. I turn to Xboy Guy and we give each other little kisses. My friend seals the deal (or other way around, the boy makes the sale), and pretty soon we are off to pay the bill. 450 baht for drinks and 650 for the off fee. Oh there was also a show going on, but I was half paying attention because of Xboy Guy’s affection, and my friend is busy with DTG’s attempts to land the off. We go out, it is raining outside. We decide on splitting a cab, first to drop me and Xboy Guy off at the Crowne Plaza, and then PNGguyBKK and DTG at his Soi 14 hotel. DTG gets the taxi, rides shotgun, and the rest of us get in the back. I hug Xboy Guy for the rest of the ride. Turns out we go to Soi 14 first. The boys say their goodbyes, and I wish my friend a “goodluck, you got this”, wishes. It’s his first ever off, and I want it to be a successful one. I sit alone in the back with my guy. Our thighs touching, hands held, kissing all throughout the ride back. We pay the driver 80 baht (from Soi Twilight to Silom Soi 14 back to Rama IV Crowne Plaza), and as my boy gets out, I see his familiar erection bulging through his shorts. Two elevator rides that felt like eternity later, we had a frenzied time from the door to the bed. Clothes off and everywhere, no showering, kissing, touching, a lot of “I love yous”. Orgasm, towel off, and then bed. My boy clings on to me all night, again to stake his claim. He has successfully claimed me tonight, and I’m in big trouble. Not a bad first day.

My experience last week: 1500 ST for Toy Boys (twice), 2000 ST for Boyzboyzboyz - also the same as February this year.