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Cool. One of the few I drink straight up. Guess I'll have to go to the ATM for that one.

I hope so . I've had that happen a few times last few trips. Thanks for the tip.

Wow 4k! That's pricey stuff. What kind of booze is it? I guess I should be thankful that the US dollar is (still, relatively) strong.

Question 3: OK, so I'll pretty much handle this like a short-time off. I'll ask the boy if it is OK to take him to DJ and/or restaurant. I'm pretty much going to tip him prevailing short time rate. 3some may or may not happen (80% might not happen), but will tip accordingly. I do not expect us to off a guy, but wanted to leave this as an option for us at least. vinapu: We might off a boy who I've offed in the past. Known quantity, and most probably worth the short time off fee. ChristianPFC: thanks for the link, interesting to see a lot of other people's perspective on the matter. Glad I am not the only one thinking of doing this. DivineMadman: the point for us is taking an "actual working gogo boy" out to dancing and food, not necessarily just have any other kind of boy for companionship. I'd like the BF to have interaction with a gogo boy not just in a bar. There will be plenty of opportunities for us to make new friends during GCircuit (as I have, with my friends, the past two parties). Who knows, we may get new Thai (or whatever) friends this way, as I hope we do. Good point about TIME being important thus my preference in paying him prevailing short time off fee, sex or no sex. colmx: again, looks like you have a ton of experience with this. Thanks for sharing your systematic way of handling a third boy. I hope we don't end up with a shit bag lol (that word cracks me up for no apparent reason). Good point about your Thai boyfriend using his advantage to communicate your wishes. I may use this tactic in Phuket with my Thai-Speaking Burmese boy.

Question 2: We probably won't do this in every bar (I do not see this happenning in Jupiter, for example). colmx: Looks like you have a lot of experience with this. Great tips thanks. I'll be prepared to pay more for mixers if need be. The point is to make the boys happy and sit with us while there is a show. gerefan: 1800 baht for a bottle seems reasonable, since accounting for both our drinks and the boys drink (350 baht X 3 or 4 = 1050 - 1400 baht), its close to that amount anyway. And its probably less money overall than we are used to in West Hollywood ($10 - $15 a drink, 5 or so drinks a night per person). Regardless, not looking to penny pinch that much this vacation. I'll let you know how much Dreamboys BKK will "rob" us . If they charge more than L.A. I'll be impressed. Hong Kong bars definitely charge more at times. DivideMadman: I'm prepared to have a roll of 100 baht these 4 nights we will be doing this . Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely do this at Hot Male now.

Question 1: Great stuff guys. So summarizing: I should not be worried about having guys sit with us as long as: 1) I tip him 100 baht, or 100 baht each for my BF and I 2) Get him a drink, or two, making boy (getting his cut) and mamasan happy (less harassment from them) 3) Tell him we are not offing him, and he is free to go if someone else is interested in him firecat69: thanks for thinking I will be generous. I do tip on the high side (I am easy to please I think), and usually have good luck picking boys who have positive attitudes.

Believe it or not, there is a ton of other stuff you can do in Bangkok other than offing hot guys. I know right, what a concept. Though that is all I did last February for two weeks, this trip is different. It's never a waste of time and money to have fun in Bangkok, whatever fun that would be, IMHO. YMMV of course . I'll be back to my whoring ways in June.

I wish I got commission from the Marriott Pattaya because of this sale . I screwed the boy on the lounge. Does that count?

I use torrents. Probably not the most legal thing to do, but maybe better than getting it in Thailand and risking customs (I have no experience with this).

So this time next week my BF and I will be flying from LAX to BKK for Songkran and the GCircuit party, and me going to Phuket after that. So I have THREE questions in this post. Bear with me while I try to put some context to every one: 1. How much tip would be appropriate for a gogo boy who just sits with us for the whole gogo show? My BF and I will be having about 4 nights alone together before our friends fly into BKK to hang out with us. It is my BF’s first time in BKK and he wants to see why I like going to gogo bars so much (I think he’ll figure it out the minute we step into Soi Twilight), so we intend to go to a gogo bar with a show on all those 4 nights (Dreamboys, Tawan, Hotmale, Jupiter possibly). Since we are not into threesomes, and we have no intention of offing anyone for ourselves (but you never know, it is after all Thailand), we are OK with just seeing the show, but I thought it would be nice to have a boy sit with us for the whole show, and then tipping him after the show and not offing him. How much would the appropriate tip be for the boy? 100 baht? 500 baht? I want to be fair to the boy. Bear in mind: a. he will be sitting with us in underwear for at least an hour during the show b. if he is with us, he will potentially miss some customers who would want to off him c. we would like to talk to him, touch him, hold his hand etc d. we will buy him his drink or two, we don’t care 2. Do some gogo bars provide alternate drinks, i.e. a bottle of whiskey or vodka, and we can share this with a boy or two, and maybe some bar food like peanuts, so we can socialize with the gogo boys this way? How much with this be? I’ve seen this happen in Tawan, Dreamboys BKK and Boyzboyzboyz Pattaya, where some guy (always an Asian – chinese or thai not sure) has a bottle of whiskey etc and is sharing his drinks with gogo boys and all the boys flock to him. I think this would be fun, since we like to drink, and I think it would not be too expensive to do this (I’m pretty sure it’ll be cheaper than a typical WeHo clubbing night for us). I’d still want to tip the boys who partake of the drinks and food with us. 3. What if we had a boy sit with us and we decide to “off” him and take him to DJ Station or G.O.D. and/or go for food, but not have sex with him, is this unheard of, and if it’s not, how much is the tip? I figure the tip would be the same as a short time tip, even if there is no sex. We can also be upfront with the boy and tell him that we just want to dance/eat with him and not have sex, and agree on a price, but I wanted to see if anyone here has any experience with this kind of off. The boy will be leaving us once we go back to the hotel. I just want my BF to have a good time with me at the gogo bars in BKK, and would like him to have at least some interaction with the gogo boys. I know that he would not be into offing a boy for himself or for a threesome (knowing him as I do all these years), but I will not be opposed to it if it happens. Regardless, I am just glad that my BF is finally seeing BKK with me. Any input would be appreciated!

I concur with firecat69 on his recommendation of the Marriott. Close to five star services, swimming pool has a swim up bar (pictured) so no kids in that area, and they dont have a joiner fee and only sometimes check for ID (they did this to me only once in 5 stays). There's even a backdoor way to sneak in 2 or 3 boys through the Royal Garden Plaza mall doors (first and second floors), or the Beach Rd entrance, which I have tried to do at least once when 1 boy has not been enough. It's a 5 minute walk to Boyztown, and all the boys I've offed in Boyztown knew where the hotel was when I tell them where I was staying. Photos of the swim up bar by the pool, and a 5th floor corner room balcony with lounges (huge balcony), with a boy I offed April last year:

I just downloaded a bunch of porn off the internet tonight and it's funny that I run into this hot video called "Horny Houseboy" and one of the boys in it looks like Oliver. Is it him? Regardless, it's a fun video. Bareback too, which is interesting. Apologies in advance if the photos I uploaded are not appropriate for this forum. If they are not, please take them down. I've masked the naughty bits:

Hopefully it is forever, especially since it doesn't feel like its been 8 years . Haha @ smelling the icing. If smells could transmit through video, I'd probably get horny right away, because those gogo bars smell like boys and testosterone, or as vinapu has said about the smells in Tawan are like: "sperm mixed with rose petals, plum ketchup and cough syrup".

Haha it just worked out that way. This is a more traditional vacation (i.e. more sightseeing, shopping, pampering, less sex tourist, sex massage, Grindr hookups). It's fun, but a different kind of fun . Of course things happen, especially in LOS, so you never know LOL. Yes I would like to know what the name of the bar is as well, if it still exists.

Thanks, this is great info. I'll follow your advice and probably just decide there the day before if we want to go to Phi Phi. Since time is a premium for us this trip, an after breakfast departure, followed by lunch and then departure mid-afternoon sounds great. And 800 baht sounds like a better deal than the $80 or so I see on viator.com

Are the speed boat rides especially bumpy? I imagine April to not have inclement weather but still not a fan of bumpy boat rides. Maybe Phi Phi is worth the uncomfortable ride? Great pics of the island online. Between Phang Nga Bay or Phi Phi which one is better? 12 more days till Thailand

Well, I wouldn't say we are smart. Lucky, more likely. We were both lucky enough to meet almost 8 years ago, both after the end of disastrous relationships. I could not believe how low-maintenance he was (still is), and not needy at all. He is still very much a lover to me, as well as a best friend, but the difference is just my sex drive is running at 100 miles per hour, whereas his is a slow-burn, thus my predilection to get more sex elsewhere. This difference in libido has never been an issue for us. Some of our friends don't understand how the relationship works. Sometimes I don't know how as well. It just works. It does sound that I am having my cake and eating it too. I see it as a cake made of my BF as the cake bread part, and the Thai/Lao/Cambodia/Burma boys as the icing. And there is so much icing to be had LOL. It's funny you mention Skype while you are in LOS. I don't think I video-chatted with my BF the whole two weeks I was gone during this trip report. He is just that low maintenance. In contrast, Xboy Guy has video chatted with me numerous times already since I've been back here in the USA, mostly at X-Boys during the show. XBoy Guy usually Lines me at around 10:05 PM Thai time (8 AM in California), when they are done parading onstage and the first show starts, when most of the boys are either in the show or just backstage or with customers. Many times when I ask about the show, if he is not with a customer, he video calls me in the bar and streams the show in progress. I can only take 5 minutes at a time of this though, since video streaming a bar show through a phone camera is not exactly hi-def video, and the sound sucks. A screenshot of one of his streams (you can see how crappy the quality is):

Thanks. I'm definitely staying in Patong. I've made a reservation at the Holiday Inn Phuket - Patong Beach, and it looks walkable to the gay area, as well as the beach. Anyone had experience staying at the hotel? Looks OK on TripAdvisor, and I emailed the hotel and they are no joiner fees. I can definitely cancel if there are issues with it, or if anyone has a great alternative that is accessible to both nightlife and the beach. As far as activities, I'm looking at a Canoe ride on Phang Nga Bay and do caving: http://www.viator.com/tours/Phuket/Canoe-Cave-Explorer-Phang-Nga-Bay-Tour-from-Phuket/d349-3685HKT09C And maybe sign up for this city tour: http://www.viator.com/tours/Phuket/Private-Tour-Phuket-Introduction-City-Sightseeing-Tour/d349-3685HKT05P Anyone have experience with organized tours in Phuket like the Cave exploring one and the city tour one?

I'd like to confirm this, if anyone knows it: does Tawan usually have second shows at 12 midnight on weekends (Friday and Saturday, or Friday to Sunday)?

No problem. I'm glad this is of use to some of you. PM me when you know your dates. I have 3 more trips planned this year, including next month.

Cool, I'll be in April 6 with the BF and some friends from Cali. Might be hanging out with them through Songkran but things will slow down for me by the 17th or 18th. If you wanna grab a bite or coffee, I'll be down for sure.

Thanks guys. It was fun recounting all the fun stuff that happened. I think it was better to do all of this after the trip was over, since I barely had time to focus on anything serious (like writing) while I am having fun . If I was to do it again, I would probably include photos in all the posts. I usually take photos of all the boys, and the hotel. Also, I wish I started earlier, with my previous trips.

Day 15 Not really a trip report per se, because my time in Thailand has come to an end. I check-in with ANA for my flight to Tokyo, sadly there was a but of a line, and it takes me 30 minutes to get to the counter: I am then taking United Airlines from Tokyo to Los Angeles. I don’t dread the flight this time as I did going to Thailand, because its usually shorter (2 hours less to Tokyo, about 2 hours less to California, due to help from the jet stream direction), and because my BF is in the other end of my flight, waiting for me. I figure I’d use the time at the airport waiting on my flight to reminisce and figure out what worked and what didn’t this trip. THIS TRIP: Primary Goal: To have as much sex as possible – Mission accomplished Secondary Goal: Exercise everyday, eat healthy – First week great, second week got sick, did not exercise towards the end Tertiary Goal: Get 2 suits and shirts tailored – Success, minor hiccup Did not happen: did not go to any new places or tourist spots, did not shop too much, did not go to massage shops NEXT TRIP in April: Primary Goal: Tour more places with BF, go to Phuket with Burmese friend Secondary Goal: Check out new gogo bars with BF/Burmese guy Tertiary Goal: Get pampered with facials, wholesome massage, body scrubs with BF/Burmese guy Will probably not happen: Will not off any new guys due to BF/friend L. Meet free guys on Grinder/Hornet/PRomeo, will not go to boy massage shops New guys met: 10 (6 offs, 4 free boys thru gay app) Repeat guys: 6 (4 offs, 2 money boy thru gay app) Short Time Offs: 7 boys Long Time Offs: 6 boys Best off: Xboy guy Worst off: Nice Boys guy Best app hookup: Hotel guy in Pattaya Worst app hookup: Older guy in BKK who did not look like his pics Best bar experience: Xboys Worst bar experience: Nice Boys, maybe I went on an off night Most visited bar: Boyzboyzboyz in Pattaya, best selection of boys Bar I wish I visited more: Tawan, but I cut BKK trip short in favor of Pattaya Bar I need to visit again: Nice Boys, and Sunee Plaza in general Best hotel: Crowne Plaza in BKK Worst hotel: Aya Hotel in Pattaya (not really bad, and will stay again) Fell in love: 3 times (numerous times with Xboy Guy and Cambodia Guy, 5 minutes with FM2) Hated the guy: Older Grindr guy, Nice Boys off Biggest Surprise: Xboy Guy not charging for company from 3 AM to 5 PM on 4th time Same same: Cambodia guy trying to get more money from me Best Sex: Xboy guy (Cambodia guy close second) Best boyfriend experience: Dreamboys Thai guy Best Conversation: Cambodia guy As a parting gift, here was my first off this trip, the Screwboys guy:

Day 14 So I can’t believe it, it’s my last full day in Thailand this trip. Time flies when you’re having fun. I think I am ready to go home. I don’t sleep well tonight. I wake up many times. The Aya Hotel door slamming (due to flimsy doors) is a concern. Though I am in a studio room, which is not facing the crazy party courtyard, there is still some noise at times. I wake up at 5 AM, I see Cambodia boy is up as well, playing with his phone. I ask him if everything is OK. He says yes, he is just messaging his Cambodian friends. I ask him if they are OK, and why they are up this late (or early). He says they have been drinking and hanging out. I ask him if he wanted to join them. He said no, he wanted to stay with me. We talk for a while. About how life is like in Cambodia. Why is it hard to get a good paying job there (it is for non-College grads), why Pattaya and not Bangkok (friends are here). He tells me about his farang ex-BF in Phnom Penh, and farang ex-BF paid for his English lessons. He tells me about the pain of getting dumped for someone else, and left with nothing, no money and resources. How this forced him to try Pattaya. I tell him about my job, my life, my BF. I tell him my BF is coming with me next trip, and the possibility of meeting him. He doesn’t like this idea. I am sweet, cuddly, kissing him all over. He puts away his phone and responds in kind. We fool around a good while. I get horny, he gets horny. Kiss, suck, fuck. I can’t get enough of this guy. We shower. We dry off. He looks out the window, I take this pic (generic enough to protect him): It’s almost 8 AM. We decide to get a few hours of sleep, and I set the alarm. Alarm wakes us up, we put on clothes, and head over to Casa Pascal again, the same place we had breakfast the last time. Bacon, made-to-order eggs, cheese, breads. Thai rice dishes, beef soup, rice porridge. 480 baht for the both of us. Delicious as always, doesn't compare at all to the Lek or Apex Hotel buffets. It’s 11 AM, so I decide on our walk back to the Aya that we go to Royal Garden Plaza. I tell him to pick a shirt that I can buy for him. I won’t tell you where or what and how much the shirt cost, because I got in trouble on here before (LOL). Sufficed to say that it is not cheap, at least by Thai standards, but is pretty standard price for what I am used to in the USA. And the happiness and gratitude I get from him is priceless. We get back to the Aya. He showers quickly, and gets dressed. I pay him 2500 baht, which he receives happily. He tells me to let him know if he wants to meet in April. He leaves. I think: He will forever remain the best Grindr Money Boy that I’ve ever chosen. Handsome, charming, interesting, infuriating, and ultimately, infinitely lovable. I hate that he continues to ask for money when I am back in the USA, but I am inexplicably drawn to him when I see him. I check my Line, and see a photo from Xboy guy. He took a picture of the queue at Suvarnubhumi airport check-in counter to catch his flight to Chiang Mai: I’m glad he updates me on his activities. Again, no reason to doubt his story that he has a 4-day off. Hope he earns a lot of money from this off. At this point, I decide that since my flight to my Tokyo layover tomorrow is at 7 AM, the car service is picking me up at 3 AM to get me at Suvarnabhumi at around 5 AM, so I am thinking of sleeping the rest of the day and wake up around 8 PM or so to pack, and then go to one last bar (I am thinking Xboys, since Xboy guy is not there tonight to tempt me), and get a new boy tonight. I pre pack some of my things (which is not a lot), and then I go to bed. I get into a Line conversation with Hotel guy (remember him? 25 year old Thai guy who works at the Hilton. We have been talking for a week, no meet). I tell him I am about to sleep because of my flight time tomorrow. He then responds (one line censored because it contains his name): I check his Line profile again. Handsome, tall, fit, happy pictures, active pictures. I then ask him what were his plans later. He says it is his day off, and no plans yet on a Saturday night. I tell him, sure, do you really want to sleep beside me? He says sure why not, he was going to sleep too because he had to work the night shift the night before. I ask him if he wanted to join me now. He says no, he does want to sleep, but he says we can try tonight. I like this plan. I can sleep, which was my plan all along, and I can go to Xboys if Hotel guy does not deliver on his promise. I turn on the “Do not disturb” button at the door, and don’t care if I don’t get maid service today. The lack of sleep the night before gets me to sleep in no time. I wake up at 7 PM, not too bad. I hunt for food, craving a Thai Omelet tonight. I find a cheap Second Rd restaurant that has it, and order some Chang beer, Pad Thai and fried rice as well (I did not have lunch). Fantastic food, and quite enjoying some rare alone time before some possible boy time tonight. I go to Boots and buy some Thai and Asian toiletries for me and my BF (Snail cream! He loves them). I get some last minute souvenirs from street vendors. I head back to the Aya and finish packing. This is not a shopping holiday, as my suitcase is light and still had room. This is not a tourist holiday, as my camera roll does not have any pictures of beaches or temples. But this is definitely a sex holiday, as I see that I am almost out of lube and condoms, and my camera roll is full of boys: cute, smiling, mostly naked. It is 9 PM. Line lights up. It is Hotel guy. He asks what I am doing. I tell him I was packing. He said he was ready to meet. I am conflicted. I wanted to be the good sex tourist and see a fuck show and get a prostitute. But here is someone free who looks like he belongs at Xboys. What if he was not what he looks like in his pics? At least it is what you see is what you get at Xboys. I roll the dice and tell him to come to Aya. It will be early enough that I can still make the second show at Xboys if I need to. I take a shower and wrap up my packing. He Lines me and says he is at the lobby. Guard asks for his ID. I guess the guard thinks he looks like a money boy as well. Hotel guy complies without hesitation. We wait for the elevators. He really is tall (about 6 foot), handsome, nice dark skin, and has a nice smile. I instantly get nervous. I feel that I am out of my league. But he puts me at ease by giving me a kiss on the cheek. I feel that I made the right choice. We get to the room. We talk for a bit. We instantly try to get close to each other, skipping the usual awkward first minutes of a hookup between strangers, when you don’t know whether you should make the first move or not, so you initially keep your distance. The conversation is fluid, and his broken but decent English is both disarming and charming. We start to kiss, and off to the races we go. I won’t bore you with the details of the sex between hotel guy and I. It was good, it was fun, and it was a great finish to my holiday. No, I was not able to get to Xboy, and yes, he stayed till my PT Taxi car service was waiting for me. The conversation was good, and we managed to get street food in between. I get to know a little bit about him (he just started with Hilton after working at another hotel, loves beaches, which explains the amazing brown skin, wants to travel more), he gets to know about me (job, how L.A. was like, I don’t tell him about the BF, not relevant to tonight I think). We talk till it is almost 3 AM, and he helps with my bags and I check out. My ride is waiting for me. I tip the guard 100 baht (for protecting me and being a good sport with my boys). I hug Hotel boy and leave. On the ride to the airport I think about my choice. Yes, I probably saved about 3000 baht tonight (drink, off fee, tip) by not picking an Xboys boy. The chances of getting someone who can speak good English at that is slim, let alone a guy who wants to talk to me. But I had to work Hotel boy, because I had to Line him everyday, flirting, exchanging emojis, feeling him out, for more than a week. Is it worth the wait? I feel that the time I spent on Line to get Hotel guy is more valuable than a measly 3000 baht off of an Xboys boy who probably is as good or better looking than Hotel guy, and probably as good or better in bed. I did miss the boy show though, something that cannot be replicated in my hotel room, no matter how talented the boy is. In the end, I just think that I am the luckiest guy in the world. I get to pick between two hot choices, and both choices will end up with me getting great sex, and great memories. It's time to go home.

Day 13: WARNING: This is a day where I don’t go to any bars or interesting places. Skip if you’re just interested in that. I go to Thailand to meet as many boys as I can, both money boys and free boys/men. I figure I can meet two new guys every day, one from online or a massage place during the day, and one from the bars at night. Invariably, it never turns out this way, as I pick my favorites fairly quickly, and tend to spend more time with them. I put a premium on boys that can and seem to like to talk to me, and them being attractive and sexually compatible with me goes without saying. At this point I have spent about 12 whole days in Thailand, so ideally I would have seen 24 new guys as additional notches in my bedpost. Instead I’ve had 3 repeats (from past trips), and another one that is new this trip, but I’ve already seen 4 times. I have fallen down on achieving my sexy goal. Variety is the spice of life after all, and since I have a long-time BF of many years, you would think I would be working hard in achieving this variety, especially with the freedom I get in Thailand. Instead, I fall into familiar behavior and spend too much time with a handful of boys. But it works for me, and because of the familiarity, getting a boy for a second, third, even fourth time, means that I have taken a certain fancy to the boy. I am always in danger of getting too attached with one boy because of this behavior. It’s hard to stay true to your real-life commitments, when you are thousands of miles away, removed from your own reality and what you know, and staying at a new place for too long makes the new place your reality for a while. When this happens, I look forward to going back home, to go back to the person I am committed to, and to the job that pays me enough to take these fantasy vacations. But right now, I wake up, with hottie Xboy Guy by my side. He looks like he belongs in my arms. I pull away to check my phone. Some Line messages from Cambodia guy and Hotel guy. I respond to Hotel guy with some cutesy responses, this is probably not going anywhere, especially since I am leaving in two days. I am conflicted with Cambodia guy. I told him I am spending time with him today, but with Xboy Guy here with me now, it means it might have to be later afternoon or tonight. This means that I will not be able to get a new boy tonight. I think about that for a minute, and realize how ridiculous this problem is. A very Thailand problem: I’m not going to be able to meet a new hot boy tonight because I may be forced to spend time with another handsome hot boy, all the while currently cuddling with yet another hot boy who just spent the night. Once I pull myself back and realize that this is all ridiculous, a fantasy, an elaborate way to get more sex, I relax, and just not worry about things. I message Cambodia guy and tell him to meet me at 6 PM for dinner. No reply, might still be asleep. Xboy guy starts to wake up. No urgency this morning. I just enjoy his naked body next to me. Posting a pic of him. Covering the face really takes away from the overall effect, but understandably, I am still protective of him. I figure this photo is generic enough as to not reveal his identity: We roll around the bed for a while, and pretty soon, we get hungry, so we head down to the Lek Hotel buffet, which ends around 1 PM. We eat, we have fun. I ask him what his plans were today. He tells me he needs to meet up with the customer around 5 PM or so to buy the plane tickets, and from there he needs to pack for the trip. I ask him when he wants to leave my company, he says at 5 PM. I do not object to this, and let him know I had evening plans. We head back to the hotel. We shower together. We have fun together. It is familiar, it is still hot. We still have plenty of time, so I tell him I wanted to go to Mike’s Shopping Mall to look at a few things. We walk over there and I buy a few items of clothing. I tell him if there was anything he wanted me to buy for him, just let me know. He says OK, but ultimately never points to anything. We head back to the hotel because it was almost 5 PM. We get back to the room and I counted some money to give him before he leaves me for the last time this trip. I hand him 2500 baht, my usual long time rate with him. He declines the money! He said "No money, it ok". This is a first for me. I think about it for a minute. Maybe this is a way for him to say sorry about cancelling. Maybe he thinks his upcoming 4-day off will be a money maker for him so he doesn’t need the money. Maybe he stole from me and thus I already paid him (highly unlikely). I offer it again, ask him if he was sure. He says yes, he says “You friend me.” I offer again, he does not accept. I take a 1000 baht note and hand it to him and say “for taxi”. He still refuses. I do not force the issue any further. I did not want to hurt his pride. But It is unprecedented for me. I'm still a little bit confused, I walk him down to the lobby and then to Second Rd. We say our goodbyes. He gets a mocy taxi and rides away out of my life. I instantly feel guilty and want him to take my money. He has provided a service; I need to pay for services rendered. I can’t worry about this too much. Cambodia boy is going to be at my doorstep any minute. I get to the hotel, take a quick shower, and wait till Cambodia Lines me. While I wait, I check my Grindr again, and see this: Not blurring any pics, but strike out some phone numbers and screen names. Again, from the top with MB Status (MB Status – Money boy or not): African who wanted to meet, but I do not meet with him, MB Status: No; Malaysian who was staying at adjacent hotel, contacted me on WhatsApp, talked for a while but I stopped eventually , MB Status: No; Cute guy who was asking for 1000 baht to do everything, I do not meet with him, MB Status: Yes; Hot boy who was offering 1200 baht for everything, no meeting, MB Status: Yes; Cute Thai boy who was visiting and added me on Line and we talked for a while, stopped talking, MB Status: No; Hot guy who wanted to date, I can't obviously, MB Status: No; Thai guy who added me on Line, unemployed, and wanted to go with me to BBB and wanted me to pay his drink, then said that he is fat now, immediately turned off by that, MB Status: No; Very hot guy who messaged me first, bewildered now why I did not talk to him further, MB Status: unknown. Lots of possibilities with these guys, but you know what they say: so many boys, so little time. Cambodia boy arrives at 6:40 PM, 40 minutes late from appointed time. I do not mind his tardiness, and have come to expect it. I meet him at the lobby. He is wearing better fitting clothes, and is looking quite handsome. He gives me a long, lingering, full bear hug, not caring about the people around us (though I do not think anyone cares around here, just my American puritanical instincts). I ask him what he wanted to do. He said to go to the room for now. At the room, we cuddle in bed with clothes on. He tells me it’s been a rough week for him and his fellow Cambodian money boy cohorts. There have been police raids almost daily at his bar, so the bar is closed for now, so he does not have a place to earn money, and has to rely on the Gay apps for his living. He says business has been slow anyway, because most people just go to Boyztown nowadays. Now with the police raids, no one will think of going back to his Jomtien bar for a while, till the raids stop. He says there was a time when police would raid his house and his landlord would warn him and his Cambodian roommates so they could run away and hide. This would go on almost daily for a few days. One time it got so bad that they had to stay at the beach for the night. It’s not a place to sleep, obviously, and they had to wait there till the coast was clear. So lately they have not been having a lot of sleep, and with their tenuous housing situation, they’ve had to change rooms a lot, and this has costed them money. He says since they are all friends, they share money and resources. He tells me this with some tears streaming down his handsome face. I have no doubt that this story is true. I’ve read some forum threads about the raids. I have no idea why the police are doing this, or if these Cambodian guys even have a legal status to work in Thailand, and wonder why they are targeted. I am used to getting doom and gloom from Cambodia boy, but this tale is especially bleak. It seems that it is almost not worth it to be a money boy in Pattaya anymore, and surprised that this is still a step up in pay to what they can get back home in Cambodia. He tells me that he is thinking about getting out of the money boy business because of these raids and drought in customers. I let him talk and express his frustration about his current situation. I feel that this is more of him venting about his misfortunes, that it is trying to get money from me. I try my best to put a positive spin on things, but I admit it is fairly hard to do. He is (to me) very handsome, charming, great English, and I would believe that he would be one of the more popular Money Boys in Pattaya. But for all I know, he might be just one of many equally or more handsome, more charming, better english, sexy boys out there. I tell him we should eat. He asks that we go to Food Wave again at the Royal Garden Plaza, since he said he likes the variety there. So we go, and let him get anything he wanted. In the grand scheme of things, it’s just money, which I do not worry about as much as he does. I try to lighten things up. I encourage him to get some alcohol, and he does. We eat, we drink, we talk about general things. I am glad that he can at least forget about his troubles for a night. We get back to the room. He knows what is coming next, the main reason why I wanted him here. Shower together, sex together, cuddle together, shower again, and cuddle again. He tells me that he knows that I have a lot of boys I see when I go to Pattaya. I don’t know why he just said that out of the blue. Last trip he asked if I could be his boyfriend. He tells me that we should eventually marry so he can move to the USA. I tell him the truth: that I can’t because I already have a BF. Me telling him this felt like I was breaking up with him. He pouted for a while, but took it better than I thought he would. He is made of sturdy stuff. We cuddle till we fall asleep.