JimmyJoe

I totally understand your point. And you're right. I was flustered though. And I guess I partly felt it was my "fault" as I had chosen a guy who had not shown any signs of being interested in me. That's what I get for not listening to Vinapu.

I visited Paradise Massage recently and wanted to share my experience, since we don’t see all that many massage shop reviews from Pattaya. The shop appears to be one of the few remaining gay massage places in Boyztown, and the facilities are nicer than many others I’ve seen in Pattaya. When I visited, there were around 12 boys on duty. I’m quite introverted, so simply stepping inside takes effort for me. I had hoped to chat briefly and get a sense of individual personalities, but the boys mostly stayed seated and let the manager handle the interaction. The manager was pleasant and explained the pricing. • Massage: ฿700 for 1-hour oil massage, pricey for Pattaya but worth it to me for en suite shower. • Tip for boy: Starting at ฿600 for kissing / general above-the-waist contact and hand job, as I was told by the manager. This was described as standard / expected. My immediate thought was, great the guys are instructed to kiss! Of the available boys, there was only one I was drawn to — slim, very cute, and as I would learn later, completely hairless. Thai. He’d been averting his gaze most of the time, certainly not beaming at me, as one would hope. But as he was the only candidate I was interested in, I chose to disregard that omen. The shop is very nicely decorated. The room was small but clean and also nicely decorated, with an en-suite shower and a proper massage table. A little worn, but still nicer than average for Pattaya. I showered alone as he disappeared to do the same, I suspect. The session itself was more rubbing than massage, which I expect in this type of shop. I liked that he placed his cock and balls on the soles of my feet during most of the leg rub and later placed them on my ass during back rub. Things shifted after the flip. I learned he did not kiss, nor did he want his face or hair touched (likely due to styling/makeup). When the boy won't kiss, my fallback is to kiss his face and neck a bit. This was barely tolerated. The atmosphere was flat, and there wasn’t much to do about it. I’d smiled at him several times to try to break the ice and make him feel more comfortable. He’d smile back, sort of. At this point we were lying uneasily, facing each other, he was wanking me. He asked me if I wanted to fuck him. I really didn’t feel like it as there was absolutely no chemistry at all and I didn’t have a good feeling about the encounter. I was trying to figure out what to do when I, probably misguidedly, blurted out “how much “. He gave a figure which, while not outlandish was still above what I’d usually consider. I was indecisive, since I really didn’t particularly want to fuck him at this point. To me it wasn’t worth haggling, which is pretty pointless anyway, counterproductive in the beast of times; and I also didn’t really want him enough to do much of anything more with him. He had turned out to be the unaffectionate, starfish that turns me off. It had only been about 30 min at this point and I’d had enough. I went back into the shower while he stood there. After shower I gave him double the stated minimum tip for soft and quietly, smilingly paid my bill to the reception desk and left. The boss sitting outside was clearly livid and glaring at the boy when he saw me leave early. Wondering WTF the boy might have done wrong, I think. There was nothing wrong with his service; we just didn’t connect. Overall Impression • Facilities: Very good for Pattaya. • Boy selection: Appeared limited for my taste at that time of day, but this can vary. • Staff / manager: Polite and straightforward. • Session: No issue technically — just no chemistry. Do I recommend it? Yes. The place is well-run and the facilities are some of the nicest in Pattaya. I might return in a month or two and try another time slot.

Seems like we don’t hear much about Prince these days. My last visit was pre Covid. I remember some strikingly handsome guys. Anyone have recent experience there?

+1 Burirom Health Massage is excellent and, as far as I can tell, a probably no nonsense, actual massage shop.

Thanks for the repost.

Could you post links to these Thai massage review forums?

I’ve been using Nams Lady drivers for several years now (https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/). I highly recommend them. I find their driving habits far safer than taxis and a couple of the well known car services I’ve taken. But I've never tried the very popular TheLimoPattaya , so I can’t compare with them.

At some point I guess I joined TK massage's line feed, which is explicit, to say the least. Does anyone know this shop? I can't figure out where it's located. Line กศินาถTK

Can anyone report their experience with @The Beach massage shop and Relax massage, Jomtien? Soda gets many recommendations here but I've rarely heard these other two mentioned.

One Spa’s website seems to have been down for several days now. https://onespa.love/

First result from Google image search for “typical Russian tourist”.

My sentiment exactly. I frequently stay at the Amara and like it very much. No one has ever even hinted disapproval regarding my, ahem, numerous guests.

That's not been my experience during my current stay in Pattaya.

The usual expressions in straight bar girl culture are ST, LT and LLT. Having a Thai bar "girlfriend" experience becomes LLLT.

What is the difference? How is it viewed in Thai culture? Kissing is fairly important to me during an encounter with a boy, so I'm interested in understanding.

I agree. This is also the route I fly. The AF hard product to Bangkok is often dreadful. Whereas most of their aircraft now flying the transatlantic route, to the US, are excellent. That's a recent, vast improvement. The AF, business class, soft product (service) I always find outstanding, either direction, Paris Bangkok or Paris US. Especially compared to the business "service" to be found on the US carriers, in my experience.

I had heard they were straight, but hadn't heard they aren't offable. That's disappointing. Why are they there then? Just as eye candy? I don't get it. I guess I'll not go there during my upcoming trip.

I believe I'm quoting the correct rate. It's also on their website. I might have been unclear. My quote is from BKK (Swampy airport) to Jomtien. The 1300 B you mention, I believe is from downtown Bangkok (Surawong) to Jomtien. Which means we're both right. And, as you say, the important thing is it's an excellent and safe car service.

I agree. NamsTaxi is excellent and they've even reduced prices a bit, apparently. I just booked them from BKK to Jomtien for 1000 Baht (small sedan). https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/

Yes, it was Dui. He’s definitely got what it takes... and he’s talkative and friendly. I can see why he’s top of your list.

Recently, one of them even told me as much. I asked how many times he cums in one day. He said average 3 times at NB and 2 times with girlfriend. Odds are good, you're right to be worried, assuming he's telling the truth.

+1

I’ve stayed at both and like them both, for different reasons. But, for the same price, my choice would most definitely be for Amara. More upscale, especially friendly and efficient front desk staff, excellent bedding, rooftop pool, executive floor lounge for afternoon drinks and breakfast (currently closed, I think). I always stay on a high floor on the side with view of the Mahanakhon tower. That’s the one thing I dislike about the Raya, not only no view but the windows are tiny. Once they put me in a room 1 floor beneath reception and it was quite dreadful. I think it was under a steam room or something. Quite dark and dank. All other times I was on an upper floor, that was ok.

Where is Paradise Spa? I'd be interested in your experience there. Always interested in Pattaya massage shops.

Recently, I got my pre-flight rapid test at Bangkok Hospital Pattaya Email: inquiry@bph.co.th http://www.bangkokpattayahospital.com I think there are also options at BKK airport. But I don't know the specifics.