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I visited Clube Rio’s on Thursday 28th Dec. 2023. It was running a pre-réveillon event. The entrance was slightly higher, 70 réais for 1 and 130 for a couple, but it included free flow selected cocktails and snacks. I arrived at around 5 pm. It was packed! I queued to pay the entrance, I change, I queued to get drinks, etc. It had 3 or 4 free cocktails at any given time, and some pães de queijo. Later at night they also offered bubbly. The place was very well run. You could see the management was doing the job right. It has showers, sauna, hammam on ground floor. A bar with big dance / sitting area, a very dark room and a cinema-like screen room on the first floor. On the second / top floor there are 7 or 8 cabines, with a tv room and a patio to chill. The ambiance was friendly, too friendly for sex actually. Most clients were there with partners or friends, so you stick out like a sore thumb being alone, and an Asian like me was of course even worse. Many friendly guys on the first floor tried to make small talks, but as I mentioned, I hate small talks. So I smiled and ‘obrigadod’. I counted over 100 guys there, most of which in the 30 to 50s. I felt maybe 10% of them were fuckable and I was really attracted to 3 of them. The first one was an Afro, with a sculpture body, quietly standing in the corridor on the second floor. It was easy to connect to him. I waked by him and he followed. I waked to a cabin and he followed. The sex was great. His cock is about 19 cm but extremely hard. He fucked me in all possible positions that a sauna cabin could accommodate and made me cum twice. When I praised his incredible body, he laughed as if saying ‘I hear this a lot’. He showed me a hidden room after the patio behind the toilet. There was a lounge bed and a small screen. A creepy looking guy was jerking off there so we ran out. Then I had my downtime. When I was ready again around 7:30 pm, I realized something horrible: most of the guys there were in their downtime, too. I guessed every good looking one had cum after I did. I tried with several but they couldn’t get hard enough. I don’t fuck half hard cocks. It’s too frustrating. So I missed the second really attractive guy. The third one was a Viking looking giant. But he was never on the top floor. He was mostly jerking off in the screen room and wandering in the dark room. I never managed to get his attention in the screen room and the dark room was really too dark. Based on the guys he jerked off with, I’m not at all his type anyway. I was thinking about leaving, and decided to do a last tour. Then another Afro grabbed me on the stairs. It was very rare to have someone so direct and agressive. He was not much a looker but he had an ion-hard cock, and he really wanted me. I let him fuck me. He was very passionate and cum quickly. Again, thanks to BTS, we Asians have an ever-expanding fan base now. lol. At that point, I was done. But I did notice that more and more guys were going to the second floor. I guess guys were ready for the second round. I was a bit pre-phased that night. All in all, it was a fun night. Clube Rio’s definitely was worth the visit. You don’t need to be a super model to have fun there. Guys are normal looking and no one discriminates. In the YouTube video I re-posted some time ago here, the Brazilian vloger said it’s the sauna with younger and better looking clients. I suppose there’s no point trying the others. But of course, if your goal is to up-sleep some muscle gods or eye candies, you’d better open your pocket in one of the GP saunas.

I only visited once Sauna Fox during my 8-day visit in Salvador. I went there on Tuesday Jan. 2, the first opening day of 2024. In spite of being the free cabin day, it was extremely empty. I counted in totally 5 boys and around the same number of clients. It’s located in Pituba, far from any touristic areas. It’s actually closer to Shopping Bahia and Salvador shopping. The area is more higher middle class, with some bars and restaurants scattered around. I walked a bit in the yellow (commercial) area marked by google map, but was not impressed at all. It was just nothing special. It actually reminded me of certain “city centre” of smaller American cities, generic and bland. In terms of security, I didn’t feel any difference comparing to the city centre. Again, I’m not sensitive to insecurity. I got there around 6 pm. There was an old guy guarding the entrance, right after which is a small garden, serving as bar and restaurant. I later learned that you can actually pay a lower entrance fee (or maybe no fee at all) just to have a drink / food in the garden. It would have been much better as the boys come out to say hi and sit with clients in the garden anyway. On an empty day, there’s no point of entering the sauna itself unless you are having a programa. Actually on my day of visit, most clients stayed in the garden. The sauna facility is very limited, and poorly maintained. Only one shower had hot water. The free cabins are standard. I didn’t have the chance to see the wonderful suites. Most boys on that day were of sub-bar quality. The most hung had a 20 cm and seemed to be in his 40s with grey hair. He was constantly bad-mouthing the other boys. A very muscled one, in his 30s, claimed to be a personal trainer. He basically forced himself on me, massaging my shoulders then my left food. It was just too weird. And he had a quite small cock, as earlier revealed by his colleague. Another late 20s has the most balanced package, just a bit too fat to my taste. He was very insistent, too. When I told him clearly that I was not interested, he started begging for tips, or paying for this entrance of 25 réais. One very young looking twink never approached me, maybe he was a total bottom. The only one I seriously considered hiring was an Afro in his late 20s and claimed to be a dancer. He wore glasses, which gave his a more intellectual look. I actually believe that it would have been a good programa. What stopped me from hiring the last one was Grindr. During this whole trip in Salvador, I was bombed by messages. I’m a bit OCD about checking all messages and normally reply to every one, even with just ‘Not int sorry’. I feel it’s a decent thing to do. But I couldn’t in Salvador. Every morning I woke up to over 50 messages. And chatted with hundreds of guys everyday. I don’t understand how they found me. I didn’t buy any exposure and I couldn’t see many guys myself. Anyway, I decided only to reply to guys with photos and less than 35 yo. I managed so far although my battery drained on average every 3 hours. Fucking iPhone and god bless powerbanks. But It got so much worse in Pituba. Maybe because it’s more residential. I was sitting in the garden the whole time replying messages. Then a quite good looking 30 yo dentist caught my attention, and insisted on meeting me. I was following this hot Brazilian doctor on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@DrMarcoTulioCavalcanti) and the dentist looked alike and met my fantasy. I told him to come join me at the sauna, which he did. It was his first time in sauna. Lol. So my whole night was with him, and we had dinner later at Camarada Camarão in Salvador shopping, which I highly recommend. All in all, I was underwhelmed by Sauna Fox. Maybe it was a very bad day. May I held a too high expectation based on what I read in the forum. But I still feel it’s possible to have good programas there, and the garden is a decent place to hang out with friends.

I would say darker than the clients in general.

Where I’m from has a large Portuguese. I’ve always spoken the European Portuguese. Years ago I bought an apt in Lisbon.

Right or wrong, it was pre-arranged so I stick to it. lol

During my 8-day visit in Salvador Bahia, I went twice to Clube 11, once on Dec. 29th 2023, and once on Jan. 3rd 2024. My general impression is, Clube 11 is the more popular and better GP Sauna in Salvador. I know other fellow travelers have a different take on this, and I benefited enormously reading from their experiences. I’m just here to share mine. Location: It’s quite close to Lapa metro station and easy to walk to. It’s a newly repaint blue building with some boys and gays hanging at the entrance. My airbnb is at about 15 minutes walking distance, and I walked there both times, before and after sunset. I’ve never felt insecurity of any form. The streets were not deserted. The first time I got out at 22:00, and tried to walk home. Everyone objected violently to that, all the guys I talked to in the sauna, the receptionist, the cleaning ‘pink lady’, etc. I ordered an uber just to calm them down but I sincerely thought there wouldn’t be any problem. The second time I walked home with a boy I off-ed. The streets are quiet but not scary. I’m not very sensitive to insecurity anyway. When I got caught in a cross-fire of two generals of two favelas in Rio, I felt more excited than scared and paid a uber driver a handsome amount of money so he could drive me around the bonfires marking the conflict zone for me to take some photos and videos. Anyway, for the sake of peace of mind, take a uber to go home if you feel it’s necessary. The hours: The sauna on both visits were already quite happening before 18:00. The first time it had a show, a surprisingly good one. Here are some videos I took. The dancer was delicious and the drags were really funny. The show was supposed to start at 20:30 but it didn’t until 21:00 and lasted until about 22:00. The second time was bingo night. A not so beautiful, not so funny, yet very loud drag yelled all night long and it was still on when I left at 21:45. It’s definitely better to go there before 21:00 so the boys are still kinda fresh. IMG_4681 2.MOV IMG_4689 2.MOV The clientele: The local clients make up the majority. You can tell by how they interact with each other and with the boys. The domestic travelers definitely surpass the international ones. Most of the guys there are in their 40s to 60s. I was taken in as a protégée by a funny 40 something years old local and he spent the whole night explaining me the ins and outs of the place. On my second visit I was courted by a 30 something year old visitor of Sao Paulo, and he was decent looking. We had some quick fun in one of the free cabins (actually maybe just that cabin was not locked, I don’t really know). Some crazy fruits totally liberated themselves there, which was a lot of fun to observe. Most of the locals were quiet and reserved. I don’t really want to make this into a racial thing, but most customers are of lighter skin colour. The GPs: On both my visits, there were at least 20 boys, most of them in their 20s, but certain I’d say in their late 30s. 80% of them are of slim non-gym going type. But good genes leave them really nice body. No one seemed body-builder. GPs there are not very expressive with their body or with their tools. Some occasionally flash their dicks but it was more to re-arrange their towel than a selling technique. Some stroke themselves in the video room, and some sit on the mezzanine alone or with clients, reveling their full hard-on. The body shape was not the only thing that might disappoint certain fellow travelers of this forum. At least I was quite disappointed by the cock size of the GPs in clube 11. Actually I later confirmed that the myth of huge hung soteropolitanos was indeed poorly based. I only counted one boy who had a real XXL cock (over 23 cm) and one who had a 21-22 cm but really thick. The rest who demonstrated their tool fall into XL category (19-21 cm) and those who hide their tools from public eyes have L to M cocks, which are totally fine if paired with nice body, cute face and good personality. Seems the real talents indeed all fled to Rio and Sampa. But shouldn’t they be back to their homeland for holidays? My programas: I normally start with a soft drink and walked around the property. I was mostly pretending to be on my phone as I didn’t want to be bothered by waves after waves of boys sitting with me, or by other clients trying to make small talks. Most of the boys and clients I did talk to all had moments of confusion about my European Portuguese paired with an Asian face, but they got used to it after a couple of minutes. The problem was I couldn’t give couples of minutes to everyone. My 40+ yo local ‘protector’ really wanted to chat as he’s very interested in Europe and also works in fashion. I had a flirt with a hot 52 yo traveler from Espirito Santo and we tried to meet on the following days but never found a right moment. All those evasive strategies didn’t stop certain really persisting and pushy GPs. One came on to me so hard and I had to run from him kissing and touching me. But he finally wore me off and I had a session with him. He’s a solid 9 at the place anyway with a 20 cm fat cock, and he really wanted with me. He opened with 100 and dropped instantly to 80 réais when I hesitated. It was a good passion filled fuck and I was shocked by how much he sweat despite the AC in the suite. Yes. The suite does have an AC temperature problem. It was around 19:00 and I told him that he didn’t need to cum if he needed to work more. He had to pause multiple times, which was kinda a bummer for me as it fucked up the beat. I was prepared to give him 150 in case he cum, but he did manage to hold it off and I gave him 100. I actually don’t like boys cumming during my session. I don’t find it hot at all. After the first session, I was not really in the mood to do more as no boys stroke me as a must. I was getting 2 to 3 times free Grindr sex per day with similar men / boys and I was saying ‘no’ a lot. So I was not craving for it. I noticed there was a room set up for massage, with a whole wall of therapist certifications. Richardo, the short cute 30 something yo masseur was so confident about what he does and he convinced me to give it a try. 90 for 30 mins and 180 for 60 mins. I would unfortunately only give a 7 to the massage but I do believe it’s one of the best massages you can get in a gay sauna. I’m a big spa goer, a certified therapist, and had a successful urban spa business when I was younger, so I feel I know what I’m talking about. Richardo learned lots of stuff, but didn’t really master any of them. In his what we consider Californian massage, he mixed whatever he considered the quintessence of every style he knows, but missed the true healing power of each. He has power but lacks precision. The choreography was totally off. But again, that’s as much as a massage one can get in a gay sauna. I had catastrophic ones in Colombia, in Mexico, in Cuba, etc. After the massage, I went for the show, during which, my local ‘protector’ introduced me the two most hung boys of the place, the 23 cm and the 21-22 cm but much fatter cock. I didn’t like the second one at all as he was kinda rude and cocky (in the bad figurative way). I talked a bit to the 23 cm, Carlos, and I was pleasantly surprised by how humble he was. I’m a more dominant bttm so he’s a good match. I told him that I would have a session with him if he’s still around after the show, but he didn’t need to as it was late already and I would surely be back. When the show was over, I looked around and found him rushing out of the wet sauna when he heard the music stopped. I took the same suite and had him my way. The cock is divine, perfect size and shape (very similar to the one of Caio Veyron but surely bigger). Pity he was obviously exhausted and obviously not gay. But his wonderful cock did the magic. It could have been a very satisfactory experience if I didn’t catch the glare of self-loathing and desperation in his eyes. It broke my heart. At that point, I decided I should get to know him better, but I wanted to sleep on that. I gave him my WhatsApp and sent him few messages including new year greetings on the following days. I was planning offing him but I saw my messages were not read. I didn’t find time to revisit Clube 11 until the 3rd. And one of the major reasons was to check on Carlos. Somehow I was worried. I asked about him at the entrance and got an affirmative answer. I repeated my pattern and quietly wait for Carlos to show up. Again I had waves of boys coming on to me, that I respectively declined. A slim fit gold haired youngster, with a pointy long and ever-hard dick took the place of the pushiest, but I didn’t fall this time. He’s a smoker. I really didn’t care for the bingo so I stayed mostly upstairs. I did notice a jolly cute guy with very carefully trimmed beard, and he seemed to be extremely popular, disappearing several times with suite keys. When I finally got the chance to talk to him, I understood better. He has this positive energy around him, which makes people want to share something with him. His name is Jean. He doesn’t have a big cock, 18 cm tops, but he’s vers and he ‘faz tudo’. He’s a good package. Another boy I kinda considered is a very tall one with breads. He has a 20+ cm and very thick cock. It’s the girth which intrigued me. Then Carlos showed up. He smiles and said Oi. I decided to be direct and asked him why he didn’t check my WhatsApp messages. He’s a man with very few words and only explained that he got lots of messages. I told him that I could have off-ed him. He was very surprised. After some seconds of silence, he said he would go with me if I still want him. I told him that he should finish his work first. He agreed and said that we should leave around 21:30. It was kinda weird because he then was sitting with me all night, letting me play with his huge hard-on. I told him that he should go back to work, as I wanted to off him mostly because I wanted to talk to him. But he stayed there with me anyway, as if it was his way of saying sorry for not responding me or thanks for wanting to off him. We didn’t really talk about the price. When I insisted on talking about it, he said minimum 200 which was really cheap and he wanted to spend the night with me. I told him that he could stay in the second bedroom, as I’m a light sleeper. At around 9:30, he told me that he wanted to leave. We got dressed and I paid his entrance, 15 reais, cheaper than the 25 reais boy’s entrance in Clube Fox. He suggested that we walk and I gladly agreed. The streets were quiet, but no where dangerous. We didn’t see any ‘strange’ people or potential trouble on our 15 minutes way back. I bought some lanchinho in a hamburgeria, only option at that hour, because I knew he would be hungry. Once home, he stripped to underwear like most Brazilians would do and lay on the sofa. He looked tired, too tired even for eating. I told him that we didn’t need to do anything other than talking. I wanted him to tell me his story. He’s a man of few words, but little by little he opened up. He told me that he felt stuck in life, doing a job he didn’t enjoy, trying to finish his study of business administration and saw little future even after he manages to finish. He told me that he feels ugly, as he got rejections in the sauna. I guess we all have certain complex about our physics, even someone over 190 cm with a boyish face and a solid 23 cm cock. I tried my best to help him see things more positively, but there was so little that could be said. His phone buzzed frequently but he never checked the messages. When I asked about the buzz, he borrowed my phone to check on something. It was a website olx.cpm.br . He was checking on second-hand phones. they are cheap, mostly between 200 and 400 reais. I guess that's where the robbed phones are sold. His phone was broken. The screen didn’t show anything. That was why he couldn’t reply my messages and he preferred keeping all that to himself. I offered help and he got to get his phone fixed or get a new one. We ate a bit, chatting slowly. Then we moved to sex, good sex, deep and slow. The night of sleep was eventless. The morning after, he came to my bed right after he woke up and gave me another deep and intense orgasm. Reaching noon, I handed him all the remaining cash I had. He asked if it’s possible to stay with me. I told him that it was my last day and I didn’t have any cash anymore. He said he didn’t need more money as he already had enough to fix his phone. I guess certain only think about making money when he needs. I was temped, but I had already made arrangements with a Grindr boy I met on the first day to visit museums, and I always stick to my arrangements. He looked sad. He said it was too little time. I told him that he should get his phone fixed and I’d send him message. We parted 2 minutes before my Grindr boy arrived. When I was in the museum, I got a message from Carlos. It was short: ‘Too little time, too many memories’. I was moved. Then he said he got his phone fixed and was still around my place, hoping I’d be free. I told him that I wouldn’t make it as my day was planned out and the Grindr boy wanted to spend the last night with me. I told him that we would meet again and I was sincere. I told him that I’d be back in June. He said that’s far but he would be waiting.

Depends a lot if you want free Grindr boys or GPs. In terms of free boys, Colombia offers more diversity and many Venezuelans are available too. Don’t even both with free Dominicans, as most grindr-like apps are location based, those who live in affluent neighborhoods (ex close to blue mall) are all fat and old. If you choose to pay, then again, Colombia offers more diversity but GPs in DR are better endowed.

Just to summarize: for non-GP saunas, he put Clube Rio’s in absolute no. 1. Sauna paradise comes as 2nd, and Sauna Colliseum Thermas as 3rd, which is also a night club after sauna hours.

After some research, I found this video:

Hey guys, anyone has been to Clube Rio’s? What’s its deal? It was very briefly mentioned in the forum. Is it a non-GP sauna? Are there other non-GP SAUNAS IN SALVADOR? Any info is appreciated. Thank you!

Of course I did

Anyone heard about thermas 238 and le jardin? They are non-gp saunas right?

Anyone heard about thermas 238?

Something wrong with the quote. I meant to quote Xclay

wow. This is so useful!

I have planned a trip to Porto Alegre and Caxias do sul in early Jan. after the new year in Salvador. A friend told me it’s gonna be unbearably hot in POA during that time, so I’m thinking about heading to Fortaleza instead. Any suggestions? I actually have a trip planned for Fortaleza in Juin, but I really can’t deal with heat. I thought POA is much in the south so it’s better to visit during their summer. Am I mistaken? Thank you.

To certain extend, I agree with you. I’ve been going much more often to Brazil since the pandemic. That said, Cuba or should I say the Cuban boys, does have some ‘je ne sais quoi’.

Now you need to have friends there to get you boys. In certain way, it’s actuality easier than before. Boys are dependent on it too.

I also checked out Lanna massage near terminal 21. Not the one whose entrance lies on soi 2, but the one right behind whose door faces east. 300 for one hour and my boy was particularly cute and willing. He never asked for any tipping, and we didn’t go as far as fucking because another guest entrer the same room which was divided by a sophisticated curtain system. He did give me a really good prostate massage and let me play with his fat and always hard cock.

I’m currently in Pattaya. I did two massages at Relax and both times the boy suggested FULL service. Both accepted 500. I wasn’t try to be cheap, although I’m normally cheap. Lol. It’s just that both times I happened to have only 500 left on me. Anyway I wasn’t really looking for sex, but sex did happen. They both cum.

SP has lots of good museums and cultural centers, most of which on Paulista. I stayed at intercon and renaissance. No prob with bringing guys in. They won’t ask if your guest acts normal. I did see once a working girl got stopped for registration.

You missed ‘fees’! Read more carefully before contradicting.

Use them on domestic flights or international routes of Avianca and GOL.

I paid like 7 dollars for tax. 7k5 worth 120-150 usd according to my calculations though, which is still fine as they are full flex tickets. . With LifeMiles there are flights for 6k, which I calculate worth 70 to 80 usd but they are not flex.