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I have lived in Manila for 20 years. Most of the things mentioned in this forum about Philippines are just the tip of the iceberg of what this country has to offer.
 
All you ever gonna need is https://peoplelikeus.activeboard.com/.
 
It is mostly in Tagalog (just use google translate) but asking/replying in english is pretty much welcomed over there.
 
It has everything you will ever need for your sexcapade in the Philippines. It has classified and field reports of filipino money boys (both freelance and affiliated with massage shops), massage shops reviews, gogo bars reviews, sauna/bath houses reviews, even tips and tricks on how to book basketball players, models and celebrities. 
 
So yeah.. you're welcome

maybe that is just his defenses falling into cracks.. i mean, what better excuse would there be not to like girls apart from saying you do not like the race of 95% of the girls around you 😅 sometimes when we lie, we tend to say such extreme things .. 
 
This is a little off topic but the other straight guy said something along the lines of, he is looking for a thai girlfriend so that he can have someone to clean the house for him .. The bigotry of these straight foreigners here in Thailand never fails to shock me

I wouldn't single out straights nor foreigners. I suspect many Thais  are looking for girlfriend for exactly the same reason 

you are making very good point any cheap Charlie would like " I don't go to bars anymore because AC is too low and music too loud" while real reason was that last boy lusted was firm asking for 2000 tip or whatever.

maybe that is just his defenses falling into cracks.. i mean, what better excuse would there be not to like girls apart from saying you do not like the race of 95% of the girls around you 😅 sometimes when we lie, we tend to say such extreme things .. 
 
This is a little off topic but the other straight guy said something along the lines of, he is looking for a thai girlfriend so that he can have someone to clean the house for him .. The bigotry of these straight foreigners here in Thailand never fails to shock me

Exactly what I felt. I was like "this guy is a bit arrogant and borderline racist". He actually didn't say thai but "asian"

that is your hope, Just don't waste next meetup with him 

reader is right, guy is interested in you  but it looks he is not sure whether he wants to follow up in his attraction. Inviting other guy to  a tub at 3 am is non standard straight behavior so go for it and see if your knees or elbows meet under water somehow. Don't be first to pull your back 
 
 

So I have met this "straight" young guy from Sydney (mentioning this in case it is a cultural thing) in our condo gym and sauna. He doesn't know that I am into guys. Anyways, the first week I met him, we would always cross paths in the gym and go to sauna / hot bath together. We went out one weekend and smoked weed and he got pretty high. Sometimes I could see on my hindsight that he is looking straight at me (but then again, this could be just normal between straight bros). After we got home and went to my bed around 3am, I was super happy that I opened my whatsapp and tried to re-read his messages. He was online and started writing a message, he asked me if I wanted to go to the hot tub. Of course I said yes lol. I got there first and when he arrived, he closed the door (normally we just leave it open). At this point, I am getting mixed signals because why would a straight guy invite me to go to hot tub when its already dark and closed and at 3am. Also, when we were in the elevator when we got home, I am not entirely sure but I think he was looking at me as if he wants to say something. Sometimes I would see him look at my face when I am looking away. One time while we were in the tub, I was looking outside and I could see from the reflection on the window that while he was lying on his back, he would elevate his head just to look at what I am doing.
I asked him why he wanted to go to tub and he just said that he thought the water would still be hot. Nothing happened lol.
The next day, I tried to text him and asked what time he was going to gym. He told me the night before that he was going to go with me to work out in another gym but for some reason, he just replied that he was unsure and that he cannot go that day.
After this, he hasn't texted me or saw him in the gym. I checked up on him the next monday, I got some replies but I was just disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm of going out again.
I haven't seen him on the gym that week. I tried to invite him the next friday night but he said he has tons of work to catchup on. Well, this guy really works a lot and never goes out. He had been here for three weeks and the night we went out was the first time he went out in Thailand. Around 11pm that same night, I asked if he would like to smoke and go to sauna but I got a reply the next day around 4pm and said he worked until 5am. He still said that "we should go to that gym I told him about soo " and asked if I went out that night but never read my reply anymore and I couldn't see his "last seen" status anymore. 
Now, I started to feel like he was avoiding me. We had a great night that night and I just couldn't understand why he would avoid me.
 Anyways, I saw him in the gym last night. I purposedly worked out late that just to see if he works out late and voila, he went. At first, we just nudged at each other and thats it. He went straight to the threadmill and ran the whole time while I was working out and chatting with other guys (this guy never runs, first time he ran was when he saw me ran that friday night we went out). I kind of confirmed at this point that yes, he is avoiding me. After he finished running, I was just at the corner pretending to text. He went to me and chatted and told me that he went out with another friend that week and he got pretty drunk and all of my worries suddenly went away. He was very chatty and wanted to catch up. I introduced him to my other straight guy friend and we all went to Sauna and hung out at the pool together. We hung out for about 2 1/2 hours together talking about sex and girls.
We just all had a good time together. I could feel that he was enjoying my company and even thinks that I am funny and kept laughing at my jokes.
So here are the things that I found out the whole conversation. First, he admitted that he felt guilty the next day as he felt lazy the whole day (this guy is very driven and works everyday and usually works on a friday and saturday night). He said that he loves weed but he knows that its not good so he tries to avoid it as he wants to focus on making money. This could be the very reason why he might be avoiding me. He probably sees me as a distraction or bad friend or a person he wouldn't like to spent time with as I bring no value to him in his ambitions. He also thinks of girls as distractions and he seems to be not interested whenever I try to points girls at him.
Second, he said he doesn't like thai girls as he has high standards and he only likes white girls. If this is true then this might be the reason why he was not interested in all the girls I was pointing at him.
Third, he seems to be interested on small details about my sex life. I told them a story about me hooking up with a ladyboy and he asked me if I fucked her or if she gave me a head. Then, I told them that I am not going to be sleeping around girls (well, duh) and that I would prefer to just buy an apple VR and jack off. He then asked me if I do that? like if I jack off. There were a few more questions (like if I ever had stds, etc.)  that I couldn't remember anymore but I have never met a straight guy so interested with my sex life.
 Fourth, he said that he would never do it with a ladyboy like if ever he finds out that the girl he took home has a weiner, he will run away immediately. So this kind of confirms that he might be really straight and wouldn't want to do anything sexual with another person with a dick but what if, just what if this is just a lie. I already caught him with a couple of white lies he told me although those are just small lies but yes, he does lie a bit.
I am defintely overthinking and could be misinterpreting things but what should I do? I am interested to know what do you guys think of the situation. I am aware that I am overthinking and obsessing but am I misinterpreting things or do you guys think that there's a chance that he might be into me or would do anything sexual with me - given the right environment (high and drunk).
 If we ever got the chance to be in the hot tub together again at 3am, what should I do?

I just came back from 4 night trip in Pattaya which was a partial success but mostly disappointing but I guess, this what makes the "hunt" more exciting and challenging 😅
 
I have propositioned around 6-7 guys in total. 2 orange vest taxi drivers, 2 russian promoters, 1 super cute security (black uniformed police ?) in walking street, 1 turkish kebab vendor and 1 super cute thai bouncer / gogo bar security.  There's nothing really worth telling about these guys apart from the two whom I've had some form of success with.
 
Super cute thai gogo bar security
On my very first hour in Pattaya, I was strolling around walking street and got grabbed by one of the bar girls. I told her "no, I do not like girls but I like one of your security guards". She then continued to pull me inside and asked the guy to drink with me, the guy just smiled and politely declined. She then recommended me another guy who was younger and way cuter. I eventually found out that this is the younger brother of the first guy. Every one in the bar was kind of cheering him to sit with me, so he just kind of sat with me unwillingly. It was mostly annoying at first since the girls wouldn't leave me and the guy alone and kept asking for drinks. I eventually bought the girls and mamasan drinks hoping they would leave so that I can get some alone time with this very cute security guard. I was able to get his line but he wasn't that talkative, which was totally understandable because this was his first time (and also, the first time in the history of that bar) to sit with a customer to drink. The girls were teasing him to go out with me but he jokingly rejected the idea at first but then, on that same night, he agreed to go out with me to drink on Friday.
Friday night, I had to pay 2,000 bar fine to take him out. This time, he was more talkative. I wanted him to take me to his favorite restaurant but he didn't have any. We didn't know where to go so we were just walking around while talking. He doesn't drink and he ate already so he ended up just drinking coke while I drink beer. When I was drunk enough already, I started the proposition. To cut things short, he didn't agree. I wanted him so much that I offered 10k even for just a blowjob but still, he said no although, he still asked about the 10k offer after we parted ways but then I was sober already so I just replied if he was willing to do it at a lower price. Nothing happened but based on my past experiences, this story will not stop here 😅. I've had some straight guy encounters before whom had rejected the offer 3-4x but eventually agreed as time goes by (one guy agreed after 1-2 years of pursuit, lol) and ended up doing it several times (and liking it).
 
Turkish kebab vendor
I've already seen this Turkish kebab vendor work in another kebab shop last year in Pattaya. Back then I thought, there's no way that I am going to be able to ask this guy out as he was always busy attending to customers and he was always around other workers, plus the owner is always at the shop. Fast forward last Thursday, I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep so I decided to go out and smoke some weed to help me. I saw him and contemplated if I should ask him for a lighter but I chickened out so I bought one from 7/11 instead. While I was smoking weed beside his kebab shop, I eventually found the guts to initiate a small talk with him. I promised that I am going to go back the next day to try their shawarma.
That same Friday night after my failure with Super cute thai gogo bar security, I went back to his kebab shop and ordered beer. I managed to find the chance to initiate a small talk with him again. I told him that I saw him last year working at the other kebab shop and asked him why he left, which is one is better, etc. As I was tipsy already, I had the guts to ask him if he would like to drink with me after his shift. He said yes and we exchanged Line. His work ends at 5.30am and it was only 1am so I went home first to get some sleep and set my alarm around 5am. Around 5.45am, he texted me asking where I was so I went to his kebab shop to pick him up. He brought me to this open air bar that, according to him, never closes. 
We drank around 3 bottles each and smoked weed. He also paid for some of our drinks which made me think, "how the hell am I going to ask him for sex in exchange of money if he can pay" but then this just proves that not all hunt are the same and you just have to try your luck with each and every guy 😅. When I felt that we were both drunk already and that the time is ripe, I asked him if he would like to continue drinking in my room. He said no and said he would like to go back home now. Then this is when I went straight to the point and propositioned. I do not remember him saying no directly but I could feel that he was contemplating so I just said "let's go out of this place". Then on our way home, he said 5k but then I counter offered 3k and he said okay. It was a good 5-7 minutes walk to my hotel and the whole time I kept being this "straight" friend he thought I was before the proposition, lol. 
Inside the room, as I was going to transfer him the money, he said something along the lines of "I got your back bro, if you have any problems, just let me know". We were still buddy buddy at this point haha. I transferred him 2,500 then he went to sit on a chair near the edge of my bed and asked me "what do you want from me?". I sat beside him and put my hands inside his shorts. It was one of the best feelings in the world knowing that you finally get to caress the thigh and feel the pubes of the person you once thought you wouldn't be even able to ask for their line account.
He pulled down his shorts and laid at the right edge of my bed. As I was about to his dick, he said "wait, let me get this big first". He told me to get mine big as well haha so I went to the toilet real quick and undressed. When I went back, he was still searching for porn and wouldn't let me touch his dick. After a couple of minutes, I tried again but this time, I was finally able to stroke down his cock. Just after a couple of stroke, I put his still flaccid dick inside my mouth. He wouldn't let me caress his upper body nor totally take off his clothes. I sucked him while his eyes were closed and moaning but it was as if he was going to fall asleep already. After around 10 minutes, he went up and pulled his pants up. He was like "wait.. wait". I thought he was just going to the toilet but then I saw on the mirror that he went out of the door. He video called me after and said that he doesn't feel good and that he is going back to his room. 
Overall, it was disappointing, exciting and fulfilling all at the same time but I guess this is what I signed up for going after straight non-money boys. Although this story might sound as the perfect example of why going after straight guys is a bad idea, I've had way better experiences with other guys in the past - some to the point that it is unbelievable. For example, I've had one guy who just agreed for a blowjob but it was so good that he was willing to fuck me (but we didn't since I wasn't ready that night) and even asked me for a kiss as he was about to head out. But just like the the straight guy that he is, I've never heard from him since.
 
 

I just came back from 4 night trip in Pattaya which was a partial success but mostly disappointing but I guess, this what makes the "hunt" more exciting and challenging 😅
 
I have propositioned around 6-7 guys in total. 2 orange vest taxi drivers, 2 russian promoters, 1 super cute security (black uniformed police ?) in walking street, 1 turkish kebab vendor and 1 super cute thai bouncer / gogo bar security.  There's nothing really worth telling about these guys apart from the two whom I've had some form of success with.
 
Super cute thai gogo bar security
On my very first hour in Pattaya, I was strolling around walking street and got grabbed by one of the bar girls. I told her "no, I do not like girls but I like one of your security guards". She then continued to pull me inside and asked the guy to drink with me, the guy just smiled and politely declined. She then recommended me another guy who was younger and way cuter. I eventually found out that this is the younger brother of the first guy. Every one in the bar was kind of cheering him to sit with me, so he just kind of sat with me unwillingly. It was mostly annoying at first since the girls wouldn't leave me and the guy alone and kept asking for drinks. I eventually bought the girls and mamasan drinks hoping they would leave so that I can get some alone time with this very cute security guard. I was able to get his line but he wasn't that talkative, which was totally understandable because this was his first time (and also, the first time in the history of that bar) to sit with a customer to drink. The girls were teasing him to go out with me but he jokingly rejected the idea at first but then, on that same night, he agreed to go out with me to drink on Friday.
Friday night, I had to pay 2,000 bar fine to take him out. This time, he was more talkative. I wanted him to take me to his favorite restaurant but he didn't have any. We didn't know where to go so we were just walking around while talking. He doesn't drink and he ate already so he ended up just drinking coke while I drink beer. When I was drunk enough already, I started the proposition. To cut things short, he didn't agree. I wanted him so much that I offered 10k even for just a blowjob but still, he said no although, he still asked about the 10k offer after we parted ways but then I was sober already so I just replied if he was willing to do it at a lower price. Nothing happened but based on my past experiences, this story will not stop here 😅. I've had some straight guy encounters before whom had rejected the offer 3-4x but eventually agreed as time goes by (one guy agreed after 1-2 years of pursuit, lol) and ended up doing it several times (and liking it).
 
Turkish kebab vendor
I've already seen this Turkish kebab vendor work in another kebab shop last year in Pattaya. Back then I thought, there's no way that I am going to be able to ask this guy out as he was always busy attending to customers and he was always around other workers, plus the owner is always at the shop. Fast forward last Thursday, I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep so I decided to go out and smoke some weed to help me. I saw him and contemplated if I should ask him for a lighter but I chickened out so I bought one from 7/11 instead. While I was smoking weed beside his kebab shop, I eventually found the guts to initiate a small talk with him. I promised that I am going to go back the next day to try their shawarma.
That same Friday night after my failure with Super cute thai gogo bar security, I went back to his kebab shop and ordered beer. I managed to find the chance to initiate a small talk with him again. I told him that I saw him last year working at the other kebab shop and asked him why he left, which is one is better, etc. As I was tipsy already, I had the guts to ask him if he would like to drink with me after his shift. He said yes and we exchanged Line. His work ends at 5.30am and it was only 1am so I went home first to get some sleep and set my alarm around 5am. Around 5.45am, he texted me asking where I was so I went to his kebab shop to pick him up. He brought me to this open air bar that, according to him, never closes. 
We drank around 3 bottles each and smoked weed. He also paid for some of our drinks which made me think, "how the hell am I going to ask him for sex in exchange of money if he can pay" but then this just proves that not all hunt are the same and you just have to try your luck with each and every guy 😅. When I felt that we were both drunk already and that the time is ripe, I asked him if he would like to continue drinking in my room. He said no and said he would like to go back home now. Then this is when I went straight to the point and propositioned. I do not remember him saying no directly but I could feel that he was contemplating so I just said "let's go out of this place". Then on our way home, he said 5k but then I counter offered 3k and he said okay. It was a good 5-7 minutes walk to my hotel and the whole time I kept being this "straight" friend he thought I was before the proposition, lol. 
Inside the room, as I was going to transfer him the money, he said something along the lines of "I got your back bro, if you have any problems, just let me know". We were still buddy buddy at this point haha. I transferred him 2,500 then he went to sit on a chair near the edge of my bed and asked me "what do you want from me?". I sat beside him and put my hands inside his shorts. It was one of the best feelings in the world knowing that you finally get to caress the thigh and feel the pubes of the person you once thought you wouldn't be even able to ask for their line account.
He pulled down his shorts and laid at the right edge of my bed. As I was about to his dick, he said "wait, let me get this big first". He told me to get mine big as well haha so I went to the toilet real quick and undressed. When I went back, he was still searching for porn and wouldn't let me touch his dick. After a couple of minutes, I tried again but this time, I was finally able to stroke down his cock. Just after a couple of stroke, I put his still flaccid dick inside my mouth. He wouldn't let me caress his upper body nor totally take off his clothes. I sucked him while his eyes were closed and moaning but it was as if he was going to fall asleep already. After around 10 minutes, he went up and pulled his pants up. He was like "wait.. wait". I thought he was just going to the toilet but then I saw on the mirror that he went out of the door. He video called me after and said that he doesn't feel good and that he is going back to his room. 
Overall, it was disappointing, exciting and fulfilling all at the same time but I guess this is what I signed up for going after straight non-money boys. Although this story might sound as the perfect example of why going after straight guys is a bad idea, I've had way better experiences with other guys in the past - some to the point that it is unbelievable. For example, I've had one guy who just agreed for a blowjob but it was so good that he was willing to fuck me (but we didn't since I wasn't ready that night) and even asked me for a kiss as he was about to head out. But just like the the straight guy that he is, I've never heard from him since.
 
 

I just came back from 4 night trip in Pattaya which was a partial success but mostly disappointing but I guess, this what makes the "hunt" more exciting and challenging 😅
 
I have propositioned around 6-7 guys in total. 2 orange vest taxi drivers, 2 russian promoters, 1 super cute security (black uniformed police ?) in walking street, 1 turkish kebab vendor and 1 super cute thai bouncer / gogo bar security.  There's nothing really worth telling about these guys apart from the two whom I've had some form of success with.
 
Super cute thai gogo bar security
On my very first hour in Pattaya, I was strolling around walking street and got grabbed by one of the bar girls. I told her "no, I do not like girls but I like one of your security guards". She then continued to pull me inside and asked the guy to drink with me, the guy just smiled and politely declined. She then recommended me another guy who was younger and way cuter. I eventually found out that this is the younger brother of the first guy. Every one in the bar was kind of cheering him to sit with me, so he just kind of sat with me unwillingly. It was mostly annoying at first since the girls wouldn't leave me and the guy alone and kept asking for drinks. I eventually bought the girls and mamasan drinks hoping they would leave so that I can get some alone time with this very cute security guard. I was able to get his line but he wasn't that talkative, which was totally understandable because this was his first time (and also, the first time in the history of that bar) to sit with a customer to drink. The girls were teasing him to go out with me but he jokingly rejected the idea at first but then, on that same night, he agreed to go out with me to drink on Friday.
Friday night, I had to pay 2,000 bar fine to take him out. This time, he was more talkative. I wanted him to take me to his favorite restaurant but he didn't have any. We didn't know where to go so we were just walking around while talking. He doesn't drink and he ate already so he ended up just drinking coke while I drink beer. When I was drunk enough already, I started the proposition. To cut things short, he didn't agree. I wanted him so much that I offered 10k even for just a blowjob but still, he said no although, he still asked about the 10k offer after we parted ways but then I was sober already so I just replied if he was willing to do it at a lower price. Nothing happened but based on my past experiences, this story will not stop here 😅. I've had some straight guy encounters before whom had rejected the offer 3-4x but eventually agreed as time goes by (one guy agreed after 1-2 years of pursuit, lol) and ended up doing it several times (and liking it).
 
Turkish kebab vendor
I've already seen this Turkish kebab vendor work in another kebab shop last year in Pattaya. Back then I thought, there's no way that I am going to be able to ask this guy out as he was always busy attending to customers and he was always around other workers, plus the owner is always at the shop. Fast forward last Thursday, I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep so I decided to go out and smoke some weed to help me. I saw him and contemplated if I should ask him for a lighter but I chickened out so I bought one from 7/11 instead. While I was smoking weed beside his kebab shop, I eventually found the guts to initiate a small talk with him. I promised that I am going to go back the next day to try their shawarma.
That same Friday night after my failure with Super cute thai gogo bar security, I went back to his kebab shop and ordered beer. I managed to find the chance to initiate a small talk with him again. I told him that I saw him last year working at the other kebab shop and asked him why he left, which is one is better, etc. As I was tipsy already, I had the guts to ask him if he would like to drink with me after his shift. He said yes and we exchanged Line. His work ends at 5.30am and it was only 1am so I went home first to get some sleep and set my alarm around 5am. Around 5.45am, he texted me asking where I was so I went to his kebab shop to pick him up. He brought me to this open air bar that, according to him, never closes. 
We drank around 3 bottles each and smoked weed. He also paid for some of our drinks which made me think, "how the hell am I going to ask him for sex in exchange of money if he can pay" but then this just proves that not all hunt are the same and you just have to try your luck with each and every guy 😅. When I felt that we were both drunk already and that the time is ripe, I asked him if he would like to continue drinking in my room. He said no and said he would like to go back home now. Then this is when I went straight to the point and propositioned. I do not remember him saying no directly but I could feel that he was contemplating so I just said "let's go out of this place". Then on our way home, he said 5k but then I counter offered 3k and he said okay. It was a good 5-7 minutes walk to my hotel and the whole time I kept being this "straight" friend he thought I was before the proposition, lol. 
Inside the room, as I was going to transfer him the money, he said something along the lines of "I got your back bro, if you have any problems, just let me know". We were still buddy buddy at this point haha. I transferred him 2,500 then he went to sit on a chair near the edge of my bed and asked me "what do you want from me?". I sat beside him and put my hands inside his shorts. It was one of the best feelings in the world knowing that you finally get to caress the thigh and feel the pubes of the person you once thought you wouldn't be even able to ask for their line account.
He pulled down his shorts and laid at the right edge of my bed. As I was about to his dick, he said "wait, let me get this big first". He told me to get mine big as well haha so I went to the toilet real quick and undressed. When I went back, he was still searching for porn and wouldn't let me touch his dick. After a couple of minutes, I tried again but this time, I was finally able to stroke down his cock. Just after a couple of stroke, I put his still flaccid dick inside my mouth. He wouldn't let me caress his upper body nor totally take off his clothes. I sucked him while his eyes were closed and moaning but it was as if he was going to fall asleep already. After around 10 minutes, he went up and pulled his pants up. He was like "wait.. wait". I thought he was just going to the toilet but then I saw on the mirror that he went out of the door. He video called me after and said that he doesn't feel good and that he is going back to his room. 
Overall, it was disappointing, exciting and fulfilling all at the same time but I guess this is what I signed up for going after straight non-money boys. Although this story might sound as the perfect example of why going after straight guys is a bad idea, I've had way better experiences with other guys in the past - some to the point that it is unbelievable. For example, I've had one guy who just agreed for a blowjob but it was so good that he was willing to fuck me (but we didn't since I wasn't ready that night) and even asked me for a kiss as he was about to head out. But just like the the straight guy that he is, I've never heard from him since.
 
 

that's true, hunt is more exciting and challenging and if brings reward at the end , big ego booster. 
On another hand we need to be careful with various boundaries as easily we may land in hot water so if signs are clear guy is not interested , it's better to give up than trying to coerce him just by allure of money. 
Straight guys are in my opinion better for those games because if successful , they collect their reward and may even ask for another chance  along 'business is business lines" without any drama. 
It took me three trips to finally get statement " we should have  a drink on Sunday" from guy I meet on the street by chance few times in short time span. Then I decided it's not coincidence and decided   to chase him as every time there was smile toward me. Persistency paid off and we meet every trip at least once. When he knows I'm there  he sends me Line " what about tomorrow at 3 to 7 ?" and it's "yes" or "no" on my side without any fuss if I don't have time. Then he may suggest another day and usually does.

I just came back from 4 night trip in Pattaya which was a partial success but mostly disappointing but I guess, this what makes the "hunt" more exciting and challenging 😅
 
I have propositioned around 6-7 guys in total. 2 orange vest taxi drivers, 2 russian promoters, 1 super cute security (black uniformed police ?) in walking street, 1 turkish kebab vendor and 1 super cute thai bouncer / gogo bar security.  There's nothing really worth telling about these guys apart from the two whom I've had some form of success with.
 
Super cute thai gogo bar security
On my very first hour in Pattaya, I was strolling around walking street and got grabbed by one of the bar girls. I told her "no, I do not like girls but I like one of your security guards". She then continued to pull me inside and asked the guy to drink with me, the guy just smiled and politely declined. She then recommended me another guy who was younger and way cuter. I eventually found out that this is the younger brother of the first guy. Every one in the bar was kind of cheering him to sit with me, so he just kind of sat with me unwillingly. It was mostly annoying at first since the girls wouldn't leave me and the guy alone and kept asking for drinks. I eventually bought the girls and mamasan drinks hoping they would leave so that I can get some alone time with this very cute security guard. I was able to get his line but he wasn't that talkative, which was totally understandable because this was his first time (and also, the first time in the history of that bar) to sit with a customer to drink. The girls were teasing him to go out with me but he jokingly rejected the idea at first but then, on that same night, he agreed to go out with me to drink on Friday.
Friday night, I had to pay 2,000 bar fine to take him out. This time, he was more talkative. I wanted him to take me to his favorite restaurant but he didn't have any. We didn't know where to go so we were just walking around while talking. He doesn't drink and he ate already so he ended up just drinking coke while I drink beer. When I was drunk enough already, I started the proposition. To cut things short, he didn't agree. I wanted him so much that I offered 10k even for just a blowjob but still, he said no although, he still asked about the 10k offer after we parted ways but then I was sober already so I just replied if he was willing to do it at a lower price. Nothing happened but based on my past experiences, this story will not stop here 😅. I've had some straight guy encounters before whom had rejected the offer 3-4x but eventually agreed as time goes by (one guy agreed after 1-2 years of pursuit, lol) and ended up doing it several times (and liking it).
 
Turkish kebab vendor
I've already seen this Turkish kebab vendor work in another kebab shop last year in Pattaya. Back then I thought, there's no way that I am going to be able to ask this guy out as he was always busy attending to customers and he was always around other workers, plus the owner is always at the shop. Fast forward last Thursday, I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep so I decided to go out and smoke some weed to help me. I saw him and contemplated if I should ask him for a lighter but I chickened out so I bought one from 7/11 instead. While I was smoking weed beside his kebab shop, I eventually found the guts to initiate a small talk with him. I promised that I am going to go back the next day to try their shawarma.
That same Friday night after my failure with Super cute thai gogo bar security, I went back to his kebab shop and ordered beer. I managed to find the chance to initiate a small talk with him again. I told him that I saw him last year working at the other kebab shop and asked him why he left, which is one is better, etc. As I was tipsy already, I had the guts to ask him if he would like to drink with me after his shift. He said yes and we exchanged Line. His work ends at 5.30am and it was only 1am so I went home first to get some sleep and set my alarm around 5am. Around 5.45am, he texted me asking where I was so I went to his kebab shop to pick him up. He brought me to this open air bar that, according to him, never closes. 
We drank around 3 bottles each and smoked weed. He also paid for some of our drinks which made me think, "how the hell am I going to ask him for sex in exchange of money if he can pay" but then this just proves that not all hunt are the same and you just have to try your luck with each and every guy 😅. When I felt that we were both drunk already and that the time is ripe, I asked him if he would like to continue drinking in my room. He said no and said he would like to go back home now. Then this is when I went straight to the point and propositioned. I do not remember him saying no directly but I could feel that he was contemplating so I just said "let's go out of this place". Then on our way home, he said 5k but then I counter offered 3k and he said okay. It was a good 5-7 minutes walk to my hotel and the whole time I kept being this "straight" friend he thought I was before the proposition, lol. 
Inside the room, as I was going to transfer him the money, he said something along the lines of "I got your back bro, if you have any problems, just let me know". We were still buddy buddy at this point haha. I transferred him 2,500 then he went to sit on a chair near the edge of my bed and asked me "what do you want from me?". I sat beside him and put my hands inside his shorts. It was one of the best feelings in the world knowing that you finally get to caress the thigh and feel the pubes of the person you once thought you wouldn't be even able to ask for their line account.
He pulled down his shorts and laid at the right edge of my bed. As I was about to his dick, he said "wait, let me get this big first". He told me to get mine big as well haha so I went to the toilet real quick and undressed. When I went back, he was still searching for porn and wouldn't let me touch his dick. After a couple of minutes, I tried again but this time, I was finally able to stroke down his cock. Just after a couple of stroke, I put his still flaccid dick inside my mouth. He wouldn't let me caress his upper body nor totally take off his clothes. I sucked him while his eyes were closed and moaning but it was as if he was going to fall asleep already. After around 10 minutes, he went up and pulled his pants up. He was like "wait.. wait". I thought he was just going to the toilet but then I saw on the mirror that he went out of the door. He video called me after and said that he doesn't feel good and that he is going back to his room. 
Overall, it was disappointing, exciting and fulfilling all at the same time but I guess this is what I signed up for going after straight non-money boys. Although this story might sound as the perfect example of why going after straight guys is a bad idea, I've had way better experiences with other guys in the past - some to the point that it is unbelievable. For example, I've had one guy who just agreed for a blowjob but it was so good that he was willing to fuck me (but we didn't since I wasn't ready that night) and even asked me for a kiss as he was about to head out. But just like the the straight guy that he is, I've never heard from him since.
 
 

The old liquid courage, lol

 

I'm currently in Pattaya but haven't been frequenting the bars much 
I'm more into the challenges of finding non bar boys or those not usual money boys if that makes sense.
I'm into gay4pay boys , usually straight even better if they are married.
I have cards printed with my LINE ID and Thai telephone number I usually give out to handsome guys in shops etc
So I haven't had that much luck in Pattaya like I used to , whether because I'm older or because there's less need for guys to be gay4pay nowadays who knows.
But I did meet a handsome boy very sexy in the phone shop in central festival recently early 20's uni student 
Hard trying to tell him I was looking for sex ,I didn't say it bluntly to him but I thought he got the meaning so gave him my card with number 
Well that night Saturday night he calls me in good english 
"Sir I have good phone for you ,Samsung 
I think you misunderstood me Im looking for sex !
Unfortunately that didn't go down too well 🤣so I need to be more  clear in my approach when  giving out my number 
It's not easy sometimes because you are dealing with some whose English is not the best ,unlike Filipino boys 
On a positive note I met a soccer boy 22yo already married, at a soccer game yesterday in Pattaya 
Just got talking to him ( wasn't easy as I don't speak thai) and 30 minutes later hand him a card with number 
Called me late last night and came over still in his soccer gear !
 
Nice firm ass cheeks and big long cock, and big balls already produced 2 children apparently from his large load , unfortunately had to watch straight  porn on his to get it up be he finally did ,
At first he was very shy or nervous , says he never done it with another man before 
He covered his look of disgust up as I removed my clothes ,it turned me horny as he pretended not to notice my fat wrinkled old ass 
Got him to lick my balls ,he said he was good at licking his wife's  pussy and I know he was !
Licking up and down under my balls ,he did stop at the crack of my ass though although I felt like I should offer him more to lick my ass but didn't ask him 
Head down there between my legs face under  my balls licking furiously before I thought I was about cum after a few minutes I put my hand on top of his head and pushed down lick my pussy as he 👅up and down under my old daddy balls 🏀 🏀 
As he had a erection I quickly got him to stick that youlng  horny child bearing cock into my fat old ass 
I lay on my side as he pushed his dick into my asshole ,it stretched my old anus at first but once he had it my old anus wrapped it tight 
He started to watch his phone as he pumped my asshole   and closing his eyes as he smacked his balls into my ass cheeks I could hear and feel his balls slapping against my cheeks 
Faster I shouted as he rammed harder in and out I
,J watched in the big mirror facing the bed as he used hip thrusts in out in out 
faster ! Faster !
He dropped his phone on the bed and closed his eyes and let out a loud  moan and looked up at the ceiling as I felt a warm gush in my asshole 
I cum ! He shouts looking up at the ceiling and spit dribbling from his mouth 
I get up to see his young  cum dripping out of my ass down my legs , filled my ass up it was still dripping out like a tap 💦💦💧
1800 well spent even if if was less than 30 minutes 
 
 
Will post pics later 
 
 
 
 

I have lived in Manila for 20 years. Most of the things mentioned in this forum about Philippines are just the tip of the iceberg of what this country has to offer.
 
All you ever gonna need is https://peoplelikeus.activeboard.com/.
 
It is mostly in Tagalog (just use google translate) but asking/replying in english is pretty much welcomed over there.
 
It has everything you will ever need for your sexcapade in the Philippines. It has classified and field reports of filipino money boys (both freelance and affiliated with massage shops), massage shops reviews, gogo bars reviews, sauna/bath houses reviews, even tips and tricks on how to book basketball players, models and celebrities. 
 
So yeah.. you're welcome

This is actually my kink. I am into picking up straight guys off the street, gym, facebook, whatever.
 
What olddaddy said about the Philippines is 100% accurate. There is even like 2-3 threads in a philippine gay forum about picking up straight guys in the public using a card/paper with your number and a bill on it. Personally, I've only had like 1 out of 20-30 success on it. I am more successful in messaging random hot guys in facebook groups etc..
 
This approach is kind of harder to do in Bangkok but maybe because of my poor thai skills. In my 1 1/2 year, I've only been successful twice. First was a straight motorcycle driver I blew in a gas station toilet twice and another one was a taxi driver who kind of scammed me 😅 This taxi driver agreed to meet me in my room, we drank and then asked me for 3,000 down payment first, after I paid, he said that was only the fee for drinking with him. He then asked me for another 1,500 for a blow job. He even forced me to show my account balance which was kinda scary. Anyways, I blew him until he came but it will def be no repeat..
I haven't done this in a while though but lately I have been bored and might try out my luck again

This is actually my kink. I am into picking up straight guys off the street, gym, facebook, whatever.
 
What olddaddy said about the Philippines is 100% accurate. There is even like 2-3 threads in a philippine gay forum about picking up straight guys in the public using a card/paper with your number and a bill on it. Personally, I've only had like 1 out of 20-30 success on it. I am more successful in messaging random hot guys in facebook groups etc..
 
This approach is kind of harder to do in Bangkok but maybe because of my poor thai skills. In my 1 1/2 year, I've only been successful twice. First was a straight motorcycle driver I blew in a gas station toilet twice and another one was a taxi driver who kind of scammed me 😅 This taxi driver agreed to meet me in my room, we drank and then asked me for 3,000 down payment first, after I paid, he said that was only the fee for drinking with him. He then asked me for another 1,500 for a blow job. He even forced me to show my account balance which was kinda scary. Anyways, I blew him until he came but it will def be no repeat..
I haven't done this in a while though but lately I have been bored and might try out my luck again

This is actually my kink. I am into picking up straight guys off the street, gym, facebook, whatever.
 
What olddaddy said about the Philippines is 100% accurate. There is even like 2-3 threads in a philippine gay forum about picking up straight guys in the public using a card/paper with your number and a bill on it. Personally, I've only had like 1 out of 20-30 success on it. I am more successful in messaging random hot guys in facebook groups etc..
 
This approach is kind of harder to do in Bangkok but maybe because of my poor thai skills. In my 1 1/2 year, I've only been successful twice. First was a straight motorcycle driver I blew in a gas station toilet twice and another one was a taxi driver who kind of scammed me 😅 This taxi driver agreed to meet me in my room, we drank and then asked me for 3,000 down payment first, after I paid, he said that was only the fee for drinking with him. He then asked me for another 1,500 for a blow job. He even forced me to show my account balance which was kinda scary. Anyways, I blew him until he came but it will def be no repeat..
I haven't done this in a while though but lately I have been bored and might try out my luck again

This is actually my kink. I am into picking up straight guys off the street, gym, facebook, whatever.
 
What olddaddy said about the Philippines is 100% accurate. There is even like 2-3 threads in a philippine gay forum about picking up straight guys in the public using a card/paper with your number and a bill on it. Personally, I've only had like 1 out of 20-30 success on it. I am more successful in messaging random hot guys in facebook groups etc..
 
This approach is kind of harder to do in Bangkok but maybe because of my poor thai skills. In my 1 1/2 year, I've only been successful twice. First was a straight motorcycle driver I blew in a gas station toilet twice and another one was a taxi driver who kind of scammed me 😅 This taxi driver agreed to meet me in my room, we drank and then asked me for 3,000 down payment first, after I paid, he said that was only the fee for drinking with him. He then asked me for another 1,500 for a blow job. He even forced me to show my account balance which was kinda scary. Anyways, I blew him until he came but it will def be no repeat..
I haven't done this in a while though but lately I have been bored and might try out my luck again

More male host clubs are popping out.
This one is in east Bangkok: 
Address:  Ramkhamhaeng 65 Soi Mahadthai
line : @wisdomClub65 
tiktok account: @wisdomclubbangkok
 

One more: bleublackbar
Location:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/iQh8rYsQrqcidSqv8?g_st=ic
Line id @bleublackbar
https://www.facebook.com/bleublackbarhostkaraoke?mibextid=LQQJ4d

Can go as far as groping and kissing the boy. Between 9pm to 11pm (when the customers are less) bidding ranges from 1 to 3 drinks but when the house goes full (which starts from 12am onwards), it will be from 3 drinks (around 750 baht) even with the least famous boys. It actually amazes me that some tables get 5 to 10 guys and would bid at least 3 drinks for each.
 
The guy I sat with one time, not one of the famous boys but def a good conversationalist and speaks good english with a hint of aussie accent lol told me he would earn at least 60,000 THB/month. I have seen some of the boys there live in a condo and drive a car. 
 
Actually, you guys can follow https://www.instagram.com/taonher3659/. He works there and posts boys who also work there.

Can go as far as groping and kissing the boy. Between 9pm to 11pm (when the customers are less) bidding ranges from 1 to 3 drinks but when the house goes full (which starts from 12am onwards), it will be from 3 drinks (around 750 baht) even with the least famous boys. It actually amazes me that some tables get 5 to 10 guys and would bid at least 3 drinks for each.
 
The guy I sat with one time, not one of the famous boys but def a good conversationalist and speaks good english with a hint of aussie accent lol told me he would earn at least 60,000 THB/month. I have seen some of the boys there live in a condo and drive a car. 
 
Actually, you guys can follow https://www.instagram.com/taonher3659/. He works there and posts boys who also work there.