gayinpattaya

A number of years ago I had to sit through this guys drivel one night at Cocka2 Bar. He was also very offensive to other customers and staff. Jomtien Complex now only has to deal with his perpetually drunk boyfriend.

Sunee Plaza is dead. Most of the boys have relocated to nearby bars. 69 Bar ect.

I heard this too. They also own a boy karaoke club in Pattaya.

On the 6th of June, JQK Bar was closed by Jomtien Complex staff and all residents evicted due to failure to pay rent. Sadly, I don't think it will be the last this low season.

I think you summed it up there. Just forum stalkers. I've yet to have anyone in any bar in Thailand ask me if I want a MAN. I am always asked if I want a boy. The only time you will hear the term man used is if you ask a boy who is a top if he will bottom. He will be quick to tell you I MAN. But forum stalkers wouldn't understand why that is.

Go get a booster shot. Your clearly running out of wokeness.

I personally find I drink more on non-alcohol days. There are always many private parties and events with expats. Last Saturday also saw the largest crows of boys I have ever seen at Jomtien beach. It went as far as the eye could see. All drinking, all having a good time till dawn (or later in some cases). I do find it amusing when idiot governments have their own policies backfire. Proves to us all how incompetent they are. (and that's aimed more at Western governments than Thailand)

Grindr isn't your friend in Thailand. That's why Blued and Hornet usually win. Their algorithm detects talk of "money" or "money boy", and after some woke prat in their moron department reviews it they are quick to ban those accounts. That's why you see boys set up new accounts every week. After a few bans, they ban the boys device, and then they run to MKB (Bangkok) or Tukcom (Pattaya) to get another phone that isn't device banned.

That's good to hear. I meant no offense by my reply. I didn't want to assume your preferences!

You can strike latinboyz.com from your list. The owner sadly died not long ago and the site has fell into limbo.

In the UK they call it the "Pink Pound". Charge gay men more because they have more disposable income (no kids). It's been the same with pornography for decades.

Here you may run into problems. My only advice would be to befriend a Thai with good English, drag him around with you and have him do the negotiating. There was a fetish bar in Pattaya, but it died in 2019. The other solution is study some Thai language before your trip. Communication with just a few key words can do wonders. As for "rough stuff".... I'd advise against anything like that. It's generally not the way here. You can quickly get yourself a bad reputation, and that will do you no favours. It's best to keep in mind these are generally poor guys trying to make their way in the world. They deserve the upmost respect.

This is Thailand. Hotel staff know what's going on. They see it everyday, many times. Some hotels may charge you a "joiner fee". Whether they are cool with it or not is not a worry for you. If you choose a hotel that most people here stay at (many threads on that topic) it's standard policy with most guests that they will be bringing new friends back to their room. I had one experience at a Pattaya hotel where the receptionist messaged me on Grindr when I took a boy up to my room, asking to come join. I declined, but it was funny. As for the ID. It's actually Thai law that all people in the hotel have to be registered. Many hotels will keep your new friends ID behind the desk till they leave. Some will even call your room to check everything is OK before returning their ID to them when they are leaving. Again, depends on the hotel you choose to stay at. As for bars, and if they have short time rooms. Some do, some don't. But if you don't want to take a boy back to your room, just ask them where to go, or the mamasan before you leave. You are never far away from a short time hotel. It's just an added cost.

So from your photo, looks like last time you were sat at @home bar, looking across at Sun Bar. Sun Bar has now moved, and the place you were looking at is called Jewel Bar. It has a handful of Cambodian boys, just as @home bar does. Sun Bar is a mixed bag with a lot of Lao boys. As said above, if you walk down the street and see a boy you like, go sit in the bar, call him over and buy him a boy drink *normally 40 baht more expensive than yours*. This money goes to the boy for his time. If you have a boy sit with you it's expected to tip them. 100/200 baht seems to be common. If you want to take the boy home, you will pay the bar a fine. In Jomtien Complex this is 300 baht. Generally speaking the boy gets 100 baht of fit, the bar keeps the rest. As for what happens away from the bar and how much money you tip the boy at the end, that's something I would suggest negotiating fully before paying a bar fine.

Political correctness / woke nonsense makes me sick to my stomach. Just as your politics do. Next.

This is a grotesque comment. Get some grasp of Thai language and you will understand why they are not MEN. In Judaism, you are a MAN at 13, in their culture. Applying Western words and ideas to cultures the other side of the world only shows lack of cultural awareness and intelligence.

gogo man. That's new 🤣 Sound like English street rats running from a crime scene.

Yup it was you lol. I shook your hand in cocka2 bar. I also organised that freelancer boy for you at Lucky Bar!

Because last week a Burmese gogo boy who I have known a few years was in Pattaya with a customer, who was head over heals for him. It would have been a funny coincidence, but not in this case.

You didn't happen to take him to Pattaya did you?

Most immigrant working boys rent rooms monthly, or their friend does and they stay with them. Very few stay alone. 2/3/4 to a room. Sure they return home often to see family if they are illegal, or do a border run (although some have agents that do it for them). Keep in mind many are straight, and live with their wives or girlfriend. It's extremely difficult for immigrants to get long term leases, not to mention save up the 2 month deposit, which is asked in most cases. Especially with condos. As for the love part. You are probably 1 of many customers he sends these messages to daily. Don't fall into that trap. Long game or short game, it's all down to money. I have never heard of a gogo boy working to find love, and not money. Prove me wrong if you want. Find a boy in his first couple weeks, maybe it's possible, but once he's in the game and understands it, you are an ATM to manipulate for cash, if you show yourself as a mark. As for the salary part, that's an impossible question. It depends if they are employed, on a Work VISA, what time they turn up to work to be paid for the day. There are simply too many variables. Generally, the answer is no. They don't get a salary. They live off tips, their cut from bar fines and well, whatever you give them. Keep in mind many have multiple sponsors who send them money because, well, they are "in love". You seem very new to Thailand's gay scene. If you want to find love in Thailand, you're not going to find it in a gogo bar.

This seems to be the current concern with Jomtien Complex. I don't for a second think anyone wants it to fail, but change is needed. Currently there are roughly 10 bars for sale. Maybe new ownerships will bring new ideas and better co-operation.

There is too much animosity between bar owners. The Thai owners don't always see eye to eye with the farang owners. In some cases there is real hatred between some of them, who actively go out their way to try damage others businesses. It's far from an ideal situation. Some of the worst offending bars are not in it for the money. They have sponsors with deep pockets, and use their establishments as their own party place. Getting drunk is their motivation, not profits. Unfortunately, the complex management have little involvement in day to day activity. Maybe if they did, it would be better. 4 years ago, it wasn't like this. The soi was very different. Owners got along better and this current noise issue was only present on big parties, which was something all bars do for anniversaries and big events. COVID changed things. I would also assume that some are getting desperate with the lack of visitors.

Indeed. I went for a walk about 11pm. I managed 10 minutes in cocka2 bar and had to leave. The noise from next door was beyond a joke. Headed down the soi and got called into Home bar, but Sun was drunk and everyone knows what that means. All the customers had vacated the soi and gone around the corner where it's quit.

It always shocks me that Russian families choose to stay there. There is no escape from that place without passing a boy bar or boy massage shop. What do they tell their kids? Don't look at the naughty gays?... It could be more likely that when mum is babysitting the kids at the pool, Daddy slides out to Soda for a happy ending.