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I visited moonlight a couple days ago. I agree with your comments, will write more in my report later. However I did ask the papasan. Models are offable. Models are 1000 baht off fee to the bar and number boys are 500, I never called any down so I don’t know their specific rates to take out.

Mac is great. Last tour I did with him he told me while he has access to healthcare it’s a long wait. Example. He has been one waiting list for dental care for over a year. While you can be seen there can be a long wait.

Website was down when I was researching them, they are still operational.

Quick Update. I tried TongTong. Good recommendations, While he was not as strong as Previous masseuse he made up for it by using his body, knees, elbows to apply strong pressure. I tried the Body Scrub & Massage. I was a little sceptical because they don't use a shower table but I enjoyed it and he kept it fun throughout. I was quoted same Min tip from both Masseuse for B2B so maybe its standard here. While previous masseuse didn't pressure me for Review tonguing did, even asking if I already left review and could update date & with his name. So I guess they still rely on reviews for rankings. Just a quick update I as I was responding to a DM.

This is my second visit to bangkok. I first stayed at pattaya for a week now I am in Bangkok for 2 i am staying at the quarter saladaeng. I liked the Furama silom last year and would have booked again this year however I stayed in an executive club suite last year and the price has now doubled. However I am now staying here at the quarter in a premier room and it’s just as comfortable. Shower has great water pressure and hot water, have a full kitchen so I can utilize fridge and microwave, doubt I will be doing any cooking. No issues with guests. They can walk right in with me without any issue. They have laundry machines on site 60 baht wash and 80 dry. However the dryer will need atleast two runs to dry your clothes. breakfast here is so so I have only had it once. They do have an egg station and can make you eggs anyway you like. They have usual se breakfast options and limited western style options. However they have lots of fruit and an automatic espresso machine. They also have a cafe on site which you get 10% off as a hotel guest which serves bagel sandwiches and drinks/smoothies. they also offer a shuttle to and from the local bts stations. Lots of food vendors around the hotel and walking distance to Senso massage. first day I went to arena massage, I tried this last year based on reading this forum and really liked it, I like the all in pricing and the guys are fun. The guy I choose was fun however he surprised me cause he was really a bottom only. I guess I should have asked. I will return here next week maybe but some other shops I’m starting to like aswell. second day I hired a tour guide. We went to ancient city, some local street markets were I was the only foreigner which was great to experience. We also went to some malls. The new roof top garden at dust Thani. He showed me some local eats around my hotel. I’ve actually booked another trip for tomorrow with this guide. after this long day I was tired and just passed out for the night. Next day I went to prestige massage, they take card at no additional charge, I paid for massage with card but tipped in cash. The shop looks very modern and clean. They tables have proper head rests, which I appreciate it, the masseuse actually had good technique. After flipping over he asked if I wanted extra service. It was quoted at 2k which seems like a lot however he was very cute and I couldn’t resist 😊. The massage was great and the extras too, I will repeat and feel it’s worth it for what I paid. that night I strolled patpong market as they were setting up, I didn’t realize they setup each night last year I only visited during the night, I bought banana roti then went back to my hotel for a quick nap and to shower before heading out for the night. I decided to goto fresh boys as this was my favourite bar last year. I arrived in the middle of the first show during the gig cock parade. I was shocked and happy to see my fav boy from last year still there! He did not see me yet tho. I got seated and was watching the show as he was still performing in it. Then the boy lineup started and I was viewing who was still here and new. I recognized three guys from last year, however one boy I talked to told me he was here last year too. then my heart saddened as the boy I wanted was going to sit with another couple.. he walked past me and smiled and lit up! He recognized me from last year which made me have all kinds of feelings I was sad but I was thinking maybe I will ask a different boy to sit with me. I contemplated but waited. The next show was starting and he left the couple as he was performing in the show, the mamasan came to me before and I said the boy I was interested in was busy. While he was in the show towards the end mamasan came to me again, I told her who I was interested in and I said I think he’s getting taken by the other couple. She said Nono I will check. I said ok I will buy drink if he is available. The drink came right away while he was still performing. after the show he arrived! He remembered me from last year even where I stayed. He’s 100% top but not straight and very affectionate. It could be an act, and I am fine with living in the delusional, atleast while on vacation . We chatted and he remembered our failed threesome last year. I told him I wouldn’t mind trying again but we need someone less shy. Right away his face lit up and he told me about two boys, however one in particular. He told me he wanted to fuck him bad, so I asked that boy to come for drink too. We discussed specifics and whether or not he was comfortable, he said he was and wanted to try. I told him I want for the next night as it’s my first night at bar, he was fine, my main boy was about to take part in the main show. I asked second boy to stay with me until show is over he was fine with that. At the end I thanked him and tipped him 500 and said I would likely see him tomorrow. Came back to hotel with first boy and had an amazing time. I love that it’s not mechanical with him. He wants to make sure you are enjoying too. He asked me about travels and cuddles with me a while afterwards as we talked and also discussed tomorrows events. next day I did the tourist boat and went up the river to wat lang market, did some shopping, stopped at khoasan road which was different than last year I visited. It was full of stalls selling items last year it was pretty empty, maybe I went on an off day. I was gonna head to some more stops but was tired, sadly my body doesn’t want to sleep in so everyday I’m getting up 7-8 even tho I’m going to bed 3-4 am. I came back to hotel and took a nap. night I went back to fresh boys. I called down main boy and he wanted me to call second boy right away, which I did. I immediately let papasan know I wanted both and he said wow both you take me too, haha. Main boy asked if he could do big cock show first then we can go. I said of course. After the three of us left back to the hotel, once again no issues with staff. We showered and it was a much more memorable experience than last years threesome. Third boy was really into it and it was very hot watching my main boy fuck the second boy. They were both so into it and really enjoyed it. Second boy said he was verse however I feel he leans more verse bottom. I would do a threesome again with this boy but I like the one and one. I do need to check out some of the other bars, I tend to find something I like and stick with it but I really want to experience some other bars. Like the new atlas. I was finally able to sleep in until 9:30 am! I laid around the hotel until around 12 I made an appointment at Ssense. I walked there from my hotel but google gave some weird directions however I eventually found it. This is another more upscale massage place. They provided cooling cloth and iced tea upon arrival. I was able to pay for massage with card with the basic 3% charge. Another boy brought me up the stairs to the massage room which was clean and modern looking, this room also had a proper headrest. After showering the masseuse arrived. He was very strong. He had the right technique and worked the muscles properly. When I was getting this massage I didn’t think I was gonna get any extras because the massage was so good. I flipped over, he continued to massage then asked if I wanted extra service, he quoted me at 900 for b2b which I felt was a steal, I agreed, in the end I did tip him more tho. He did things that felt like, but without penetration. It was very sensual and turned me on a lot. One thing that happened was we finished early about 10 minutes, I know other places may continue massage but he didn’t, I wasn’t upset by it, however he had to phone downstairs to reception and let them know and then he out me on the phone and asked me if everything was alright, this was a bit awkward however I guess they value reviews cause they pushed me to write a review. I came back to the hotel and did some laundry and relaxed, I wrote my pattaya report. I already told my boy from fresh boys I was taking a break tonight and would likely see him on Friday, which I will. After my laundry later in the evening I decided to try another massage place which is close to my hotel and Ssense called the prince massage, this is another all in pricing venue. I didn’t go here last year because I confused it with prime massage, which I believe is a strictly professional location. I arrived at Prince massage around 7:30 pm, there was three other guys sitting in chairs looking at the guys behind the glass who all lined up showing off to get chosen, now I like this and I hate this. I love that I can pick exact boy I want however I feel bad not picking a boy who really wants to be picked. Nearly all of them shirtless. There was 3-4 guys who stood out to me and I ended up picking one shirtless boy who kept smiling at me. I choose a deluxe room, however I think I ended up with a vip room cause it had a jacuzzi in it. This is all in pricing so I paid 2k for the room and 2k for the tip which is on the higher end for 90 minutes. The room has a large bed, no proper massage table, but I guess we are not there for that anyway. the boy was strong tho, the massage was decent, not as good as Ssense but I would repeat. The extras where fine, he asked me do you want to top or bottom? I feel like this boy was more a bottom but h topped just fine. I asked the papasan for top and he told me /they all top/ which I think is theoretically true but I feel like I need to be more specific next time. He ensured we used the entire time. During the massage it started to downpour outside and you can hear it through the walls, the boy was very concerned about me leaving in the rain because it’s heavy rain, it wasn’t that bad and I walked to the street to get some food, heading back to:hotel to rest for the next day, Tonight I’m going back to fresh boys first. I wanted to off my boy and we were going to goto that new gogo GASS BKK on the second floor above white rabbit but I don’t think it’s what I thought it was. I checked their facebook it appears just to be a dance bar with gogo boys. Can anyone confirm? Instead I think I’m gonna ask him if he is fine going to circus to watch the drag show, but yet again I don’t know if they still have a 11 pm show. So I guess we will see what happens tonight. tomorrow I head off to the train market and some local villages on a tour. I will write more as it happens and answer any questions,

I read a lot of reviews and compiled a list of various services. https://www.thelimopattaya.com/rates/ https://mikepattayataxi.com/rate-of-service/ https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com https://www.pattaya4leisure.com/#booking https://www.flintstonespattaya.com/flintstones-drivers.html however based on reviews here and other forums nams was the best choice for me. I liked the service Would use again and I would recommend to anyone. Both pickups were on time drive was smooth and comfortable. I believe I chose a sedan L Soda was around 1500 baht all in. Massage + tip. all the posted showtimes are accurate they may start 5-10 minutes late while they wait for audience. Candy boys show was the longest at nearly 2 hours. I used pattaya city tour co Ltd for the colosseum show. Was 699 baht for gold seat. Tiffany was more expensive, different tour operator quoted me same price as Klook so I just booked with the tour operator. Was a vip diamond ticket for 2000 baht make sure you leave early cause pattaya traffic will make you late.

Next day I went to Khao Kheow Open Zoo I joined a tour group which I was told was a Russian tour but English would be fine, it was not 😅. Tour guide spoke a little English however a few of the Russians on the tour did speak English, I used translation app to translate most of the tour info. Everyone was friendly enough. In the end the made everyone goto one of their shops to try and get people to buy overpriced items. The zoo was great. Got to see all the exhibits and everyone had a lot of fun. Throughout the day the massage boy from Grindr kept messaging me, getting really needy. The bad thing was Every time I walked out of my hotel I walked by him at this massage shop and just waved and kept walking. I decided to goto M Bar to see what it was all about. However shows they on were uninteresting to me and it seems like this bar is mostly just to get the boys to sit with you and have a little fun on the couches. One boy came over asked me where I was from then said “ok tip for me” was kind of off putting, I wasn’t really interested in any as they look a bit too young and twinky for me, so I paid my bill and left. I decided to head down to an actual gogo bar which was X-Boys. The show was fun they had their penis show where they used themselves to hit a golf ball into a hole which was fun. There was a live sex show, and a lot of dancing. It felt a bit more raunchier however the guys onstage seemed to be really into it and having a lot of fun. I didn’t enquire for off prices as I was a bit tired and wasn’t going to off anyone. I told mamasan I would be back another night. when I got back I walked past soda massage and decided to get a massage with another boy. Went through the same motions this time not was top only we still had fun and for same price, no need to negotiate. Friday I had lunch at buenos, had great food and a great margarita. I would definitely recommend if you are feeling like some Mexican food. Tonight I decided to goto the venue for the Friday night sexy show, they have a lot of drag performers/lady boys they also have their sexy show with boys in tight fitting underwear/nearly nothing coming around for tips. I tipped one boy and he directed my hands into his pants. I would recommend this show but it wasn’t as good as the m2m bar show. Was a lot of interaction with the audience and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. However the bar was only 1/2 full. after the show I checked Grindr and saw the massage boy messaging me again. I ignored. This time he told me how he has no room, needs money, etc etc. this time I decided to block him even tho I knew I would see him as I walked past. I likely would have seen him another time if he wasn’t so needy as I did enjoy having fun with him. I message a boy who was on the Twunkier side on Grindr he advertised as massage boy. His shop was directly next to the agate, room was on top floor and had shower within. 300 for massage and 1000 tip for everything. Was well worth it. He performed well and knew what was up from the beginning, I enjoyed the massage as he was a bit stronger and he didn’t skimp on the extras. last day I decided to goto the colosseum show. I booked ticket with tour company for 1/2 the price everywhere else. Had great seats. I really did enjoy the show as did everyone else, the audience was mostly Chinese and they all came in groups by tour bus. The only thing I didn’t like was that some of the lady boys/queens did not know the lyrics. However the visuals and the dance numbers made up for it. I would see both this and Tiffany again in the future. after the show I came back and rested for a while then I decided to goto candy boys show, I wanted to goto this earlier in the week however they are not open every day. The seating for this show is more intimate as it’s couches however they are closer together so performers cannot walk Through easily to collect tips. This show had a live singer! It was great to watch him sing. I enjoyed the acts the only thing is between each act they play the same melody which gets kind of annoying. The performers were great and interacted with everyone. They had one cute dancer that I would definitely off. Not sure if it’s possible, I am too shy to ask if it’s not upfront. I would go back to:this show again. after I decided to go back down to the gogo bars, I walked around however no shows were starting so i walked by a gogo bar called dreamboys however there is no show. The boys stand on stage.. that’s it.. felt kind of awkward. There was only one other person in the bar besides myself, one guy kept looking at me on stage and making it very obvious he wanted me to off him. I was interested in another guy too but he appeared bored and wasn’t looking. I decided to buy the guy making googly eyes at me a drink, we discussed fee. He asked 2500 I counted at 2000 which he accepted. He got dressed and left. I believe off fee here was 500. Caught a grab and headed back to hotel, he told me how it’s slower now, he use to dance as a gogo boy on walking street and make more per night, it’s what he likes to do but those bars have slowed down so he looked elsewhere. I forgot to mention when we stepped out of dreamsboys it’s directly across from xboys the mamasan was outside and she saw me and gave me the why you didn’t come back look. I was surprised she remembered I hid behind boy and she laughed. boy and I had fun, I decided to tip him the 2500 he originally asked for cause he was great. i did a bit more shopping during the week, next time I think I would visit more gogo bars however I did like staying in Jomtien and I think I would again. I found nighboys club I didn’t go in because it was dead outside and kind of late. There are also a lot of boys around the bars in super town that appear to:be offable if you are braver than me to approach . that was it for me in pattaya. I had a blast, I am in bangkok now and having a lot of fun.

Last year was my first visit to thailand and I had a kit of fun so this year I decided to come a bit longer and do pattaya and bangkok. This report only focuses on pattaya. I was a bit unsure if I wanted to take a taxi so I decided to hire a driver from nams lady drivers. Which was the right decision. They were waiting for me when I arrived and had a comfortable car waiting for me. Drive was pleasant. I would highly recommend. I also booked them for my transfer to bangkok, which was another great experience, I booked the agate. I had a crystal pool room I believe, on the back side of the resort. Night time was very quiet no noise from the bars was heard. Staff were friendly. No issues with guests, able to come right up with me. first day I stopped at soda massage. I picked a boy who was sitting down and off we went. Soda massage has a shared shower room, cabins are smaller but adequate with dim lights. You can however hear everything in the cabin as next to you, as I heard a guy negotiating a price with the boy he had. I didn’t negotiate any extras in the beginning. Massage was mostly light strokes after flipping boy gave me price however I’m sure he knew what price was negotiated next door cause he didn’t try to quote higher. I accepted. Surprisingly he was verse and we had a fun time showered in the room with another guy showering aswell. Back to my hotel for a quick nap to recover from my long flight. After I woke up I messaged a Thai guy on Grindr and had he come over for some fun. I then headed over to the best bar for the show, this is a cabaret show, mostly drag queens lip syncing. This is my one gripe in these bars. The queens lip sync based on the sounds from the music, they do not know the English lyrics. I feel it would be much better if they lip synced to Thai songs. I highly doubt it bothers anyone else but it’s a little thing I notice, show was ok, I wasn’t really impressed. next day I did some sight seeing and did some exploring, walked around the area I was staying, visited the gay beach and just get a general feel for the area. I booked the Tiffany Cabernet show for the evening. This show I truly enjoyed. The musical numbers were great. The outfits amazing, and the giant led screens that cover the entire back of the stage really immerse you into the performances. Was mostly a Chinese audience and everyone really enjoyed the show. I did end up taking pictures with a lot of the cast after its 100 baht per performer. The lip syncing was great here. In the evening I went to m2m bar for the cabaret show, this show is really well choreographed. The lead boy is really good looking, I have seen him in videos and got lucky as he had just returned to the show after a 3 month trip in France. I got there just before the show was about to start and it was empty, however after 5-10 minutes the bar filled out with people arriving for the show. after the show I went on Grindr and a boy messaged me who turns out was a Massage boy from a massage shop two doors down from agate. I decided to do massage at shop with him. We had a great time massage+ was 1200 all in. I had a great time however he kept pushing to massage in my room next time, still not sure why. Next I went to Koh larn, I booked a tour which included speedboat transfer, sea walking, snorkelling, couple hours on the beach and lunch. All in was 1600 which I felt was quite fair, I’m sure if you looked around you could get cheaper. The sea walking was really fun and is something I would likely do again. after I got back I was tired and basically just slept the massage boy from the previous day messaged me again saying he wanted to see me again, I had a great time so I decided to:meet up:with him again for another good time. will continue in a bit, just have to move laundry to dryer.

Same nationality. I tried threesome with this guy last year however the third boy we choose was shy and couldn’t handle his size so this year I decided to talk to third boy more before hand to hopefully set clearer expectations, will be meeting up in a couple hours. also just want to add I read on this forum it was best to have first guy you pick to try and recommend second if you want threesome so you get someone compatible. The first guy I picked was really interested in this boy thinks he is cute and wants to top him. Second boy is versatile. I will post massage review tomorrow in separate thread. It has been three massage shops so far. Arena, prestige, ssense.

I was at fresh boys last night. Just came from a week in pattaya(will be writing reports later). When I entered bar it was pretty full. Mostly Chinese tourists who ordered bottle service to their tables and were talking amongst themselves not paying attention to the show. I’m not sure what the draw is because it’s my understanding alcohol at the gogo bars is more expensive, I would assume it would be more wallet conscious to goto a regular club. I did see two boys get offed. Aswell the boy I offed three times last year was still working, and he recognized me. I didn’t say anything but after the big cock show he came up to me and had a huge smile which made me feel good. He is only one of three that I recognize from last year. I was worried cause an Indian couple bought him a drink and he recognized me as he walked to their seat. However mamasan kept asking me who I liked. I told her I would let her know. Then he went backstage she came up and I said if he’s available I will buy him drink. She said of course of course and it was sealed. I took him home last night with plans for a threesome tonight with another boy he recommends and he wants to play with too. i bought that boy a drink to discuss details but made it clear I wasn’t gonna off him last night but wanted to make sure he was comfortable with our proposal. I wrote too much I was only gonna comment on the traffic. I will visit some of the other bars over the next couple weeks and report back. I already visited some massage shops which I didn’t try last time but now see what I was missing out on.

If this is a change is now the new normal it is great. One of the things I tried to reach out before hand was if I needed to book Morning/Night or Full Day to do the activities. I got told to book then discuss. If they are now allowing discussion before hand that would make things easier. Disappointing about Mac as he is a great tour guide. Hopefully all is well.

It is clearly listed on the website as well as the restrictions, you are hiring a guide they take you where you want to go. I worked with Mac to plan my itinerary. I wanted to learn to use the transit, sea buses, visit some temples, and malls. He also guided me to some local eats around my hotel. you pay siamroads the reservation fee which is a percentage of the total time you select, then you pay the rest to the guide in cash. Frankly I feel like there reservation system could be a little better as you have to pay before you can communicate with guide so I was unsure, maybe like you, how these things worked. Mac was very knowledgeable he taught me about Buddhist history and history of Thailand. He was very professional the entire time. in addition to the fee, you are reasonable for travel costs, meals, and entrance fees for the guide. However since Mac was certified tour guide all temple entry fees were free for him.

I booked Mac last year through Siam roads. He was great. Very knowledgeable and I highly recommend!

I have this booked, premier 1 bedroom room. Looks nice.

Will be in pattaya in a couple weeks. I will definitely check it out.

Poppers give me a headache I just could never get into them. I just can’t stand them. A word of warning. If anyone takes Cialis or Viagra you shouldn’t use poppers as it can lower your blood pressure.

I did not visit Jupiter last year, however will definitely give it a try this year and report back, fresh boys was my favourite out of the bars I tried last year.

Thanks for the update! I’m visiting pattaya for the first time next month. I had this one on my shortlist along with M2m

Fresh boys is upstairs and good boys is downstairs underneath.

Not discrediting you, but you are not comparing correctly. First post it shows prices after taxes and fees. Second screenshot shows price before taxes and fees. You just need to compare the same.

When you are browsing on a computer or a tablet you can usually increase the font size of the site from the address bar, or the settings next to it. You can set it to be at 100% which is the original size or higher usually in 10% increments. This would apply to all text on the sites. When I browse on iPad you can access it from the desktop symbol in the address bar, I have attached screenshot,

Thanks guys, I agree with Floridarob long time doesn’t really do it for me, however if I was out late with a boy were it would be difficult for them to get home I am not opposed to them staying over. I understand paying for boy at all venues. Last year I was more shy, so this year I would like to be more assertive, especially now having more knowledge from this forum. everyone here has been a huge help, so thank you!.

I don’t know if y’all are getting tired of me asking these questions, however I was reading another thread https://www.gayguides.com/topic/61297-bangkok-pattaya-october-november-2024/page/2/ It was mentioned that he took his boy that he offed to dj station for dancing. Is this something that the boys are open to? Like if I like a boy in one bar however I want to go see some more shows, is it ok to ask the boy if he wants to come along with me, have dinner, before returning to hotel? when I was in bangkok, for the first time, last year when I hired we pretty much went straight back to the hotel for fun. I only ask because I don’t want to come off asking these questions to the boy who may feel obligated to just say yes to ensure an off. If it’s not normal or something that’s been requested before I don’t want to put them in That position. I am currently rereading a lot of threads on these forums to get advice and recommendations for my upcoming trip at the end of September. I will likely have more questions, if it becomes annoying please let me know as I am still fairly new to this scene. I also plan to do a lot of sight seeing and I’m glad a lot of trip reports include some of the attractions like the Tiffany show or coliseum show in pattaya. Visiting the zoo, I did safari world last year and had a blast, and of course shopping.

He definetly does, when at the temples he explained the meaning of the different buddhas and the backstories. I was really impressed.

I am going, I’m just trying to decide on the best hotel to stay at value, space, location. For pattaya I’m excited to go just not sure of the area. My first visit last year I spent a few months on here researching before I finally booked. The biggest help for me was the shamelessmack blog, the area maps really helped. This year in bangkok I definitely am going to try some of the saunas that I did not try last year. I am here for tourist activities too, last year I hired a guided from siamroads, Mac, I found him very informative and he taught me how to use transit, showed me boat taxis, temples, and some of the more local areas of Thailand. I will likely being hiring a guide again.