hornyfrog

Fair enough. That’s actually the best we all can hope for — an even, fair exchange.

I said before, I think I posted at the other similar board, that in reality, in all my years of being in this sauna scene, there have been only a few charmed-life clients that the guys really, really are into and want to have sexy time with. Like I can count them on one hand and still have some fingers on that hand left. The rest, the overwhelming majority, to some varying degrees, are walking, traveling wallets and Papas Noel (Santa Clauses). I understand it’s good for the ego to feed into the fantasy and delusion of it all that these beautiful young studs like us for us, and many of them are very good at playing as if they do (those are the best at their jobs). But falling for the “hooker with a heart of gold” story or getting a savior complex over these working guys down here is falling into the most common trap. One of my best friends here in Brazil is an older, retired garoto de programa. He keeps it real with me about these guys whenever I am on that proverbial ledge, and reminds me that their job is to get the dinheiro and presentes from the clients, and as friendly as everything seems, that’s always going to be the nature of the relationship. Give and take — you give, they take. You can be a kind client without being a fool with your money or your heart. And if you still decide to be “generous” and give into their asks, then Dear God, give with absolutely no expectation at all and don’t give anything close to what you can afford to lose.

Thanks. I used real life examples. 🙂

I think you meant to type you feel “exploited”? Because that makes more sense. I’ve been living here in Brazil full-time for several years now, and I can tell you that the asking from the boys / garotos is never-ending. The reasons for needing the dinheiro or the presente can run from the very very stereotypical (“sick grandmother”) to the very practical (“need a new iPhone to replace my broken phone”) to the very creative (“want to buy an açaí cart to become a beach vendor”) to the brutally honest (“I need a new watch to look good for the ladies at the discoteca on Saturday night”). No matter the reason, it’s best just to say no, politely and firmly. The first reason is because once you say yes, the asks never end and usually they increase in value and complexity. Also, it’s a numbers game with these boys. They all have a list of Cliente contacts to make asks for dinheiro and presented. If out of 100 who they can ask, just 1 or 2 respond favorably, that’s a win for them. Now, imagine if 4 respond favorably. In spite what they say, you’re almost never their only option for help. More importantly, all that giving doesn’t make the boys like you or love you any more than the clients who don’t. Remember, in spite of the sweet talk, or the talk about how rough their lives are in Brazil, that this is their job, and receiving dinheiro and presentes from clientes outside of sex work, to them, is just another form of payment for their job. Yes, be nice and kind, but nicely, kindly, and firmly tell them no.

Gerry: There are a few garotos that go by Felipe who work at Club 117. I can think of 3 or 4. That’s a common name in Brazil. Do you have more details that can narrow it down? You can send me a private message here if it’s too personal. HF