September 20, 201115 yr Active Members So as of 12:01 AM, Sept. 20, 2011, DADT is is dead. I had to post something to memorialize the day. When I was young, it wasn't so much that I didn't believe I would live long enough to see this day as that I couldn't conceive a world where it was even thinkable. I have good reason to believe that my father (WWII marine, decorated, battle field promotion to sgt., refused to accept a battle field promotion to lieutenant) was gay. Don't know for sure because by the time I was mature enough to put all the clues together, he had died and I couldn't ask. I wish he had lived long enough to share this day with me.
September 20, 201115 yr Active Members Nice thoughts, MsGuy. Thanks for posting. Sounds like your dad was ahead of his time.
September 20, 201115 yr My father and elder brother were both career officers. I got the offer of a full ROTC scholarship but turned it down because I wasn't going to lie about who I was, even if I wasn't out yet. So much waste in human potential in this ban....
September 20, 201115 yr MsGuy, you had a wonderful dad. I pray that may he rest in peace. BTW you are still young and many many many more years to come. Hugs~~~
September 20, 201115 yr Active Members It took much too long but I'm pleased it is behind us. Now for DOMA.
September 20, 201115 yr Hi MsGuy, I found the text on the stone quite impressive and I'd like to know the exact text. Would you be able to fill in the missing dots? What I could read was: When I was in the military They gave me a medal for killing two ... And a discharge for loving one. Most of all I find it impressive to find this on a tombstone. Sincerely, Anton.
September 20, 201115 yr Does anyone know if the people discharged under DOMA are not allowed to rejoin the service?
September 20, 201115 yr Author Active Members Does anyone know if the people discharged under DOMA are not allowed to rejoin the service? My understanding is that discarged gays can apply for re-enlistment on the same basis as any other honorably discharged former serviceman. Re-enlistment applications are judged on the basis of age, need for particular military skill sets, prior service record, etc. No special allowance for being involutarily separated, no compensation for lost years and no re-instatement at prior rank. ---- Anton: The missing word is "men".
September 20, 201115 yr That sucks. If you were thrown out for reasons that no longer apply you should be able to get back in in good standing no matter what. That's just basic fairness.
September 20, 201115 yr Active Members There have been many interesting stories today surrounding the first offical day of the repeal of DADT. Some soldiers decided to get married today and a gay soldier that decided to come out to his Dad today. His Dad lives in Alabama and he called him from Afganistan, video taped the call and posted it on youtube, BTW the Dad tells him he still loves him and is proud of him. Here is a link to the story and the youtube video is part of the story. http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2011/09/20/us-soldier-comes-out-to-his-father/
September 20, 201115 yr He is so cute and his daddy sounds so hot!! It seems like his daddy is not that old. Anyways, congratulations!!!
September 23, 201115 yr Author Active Members Just discovered this piece of bureaucratic insanity. It seems that, while gays separated from the services under DADT were being given honorable discharges, by fiat of the Sec. of Def. they were entitled to only 1/2 the severance pay due others in like circumstances. A certain Staff Sgt. Richard Collins, feeling that adding economic injury to insult was just a bit too much, engaged the ACLU to help him recover $12,351 the Air Force gypped him out of. Judge Christene Miller, the Federal Claims Court judge assigned the case, is questioning the wisdom of the Justice Department lawyers in pursuing their efforts to have the case dismissed in light of the recent demise of DADT. One can only hope that, just this once, common sense and common decency will prevail over bureaucratic inertia, even within the bowels of the Justice Department. Stick it to 'em, Staff Sergent!!
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