The Epstein list... When will it be released?

[Suckrates]

 

Well, we now know from the latest dump of Epstein files from the DOJ that although Jeffy was a slimy, sociopathic Pedophile,  at least he was CLEAN !

Rub-A-Dub-Dub Jeffy.......    Who's scrubbin your back ....TRUMP ?

[Suckrates]

 

Guess WHAT ?

Today is Epstein files release day.....

And guess what ?

All the files are not being released, and DOJ is violating federal law...

So guess what?

Dems are filing lawsuits

And guess what?

Trump has a million lawsuits against him.   When will Dems realize Trump dont give a fuck about lawsuits ?

But guess what?

The complete Epstein files WILL NEVER be released.  

[Suckrates]

 

12/19/2025

EPSTEIN FILES, TODAY ?

 

[Suckrates]

Maria Shriver excoriates Trump on Kennedy Center name change....

 

 

"The Kennedy Center was named after my uncle, President John F Kennedy. It was named in his honor. He was a man who was interested in the arts, interested in culture, interested in education, language, history," Shriver began her post.

 

"He brought the arts into the White House, and he and my Aunt Jackie amplified the arts, celebrated the arts, stood up for the arts and artists," she said. "It is beyond comprehension that this sitting president has sought to rename this great memorial dedicated to President Kennedy. It is beyond wild that he would think adding his name in front of President Kennedy’s name is acceptable. It is not."

 

Shriver continued, "Next thing perhaps he will want to rename JFK Airport, rename the Lincoln Memorial, the Trump Lincoln Memorial. The Trump Jefferson Memorial. The Trump Smithsonian. The list goes on. Can we not see what is happening here?"

 

"C’mon, my fellow Americans! Wake up! This is not dignified. This is not funny. This is way beneath the stature of the job. It’s downright weird," she said. "It’s obsessive in a weird way. Just when you think somone [sic] can’t stoop any lower, down they go…"

[Mavica]

[Pete1111]

8 hours ago, Suckrates said:

"C’mon, my fellow Americans! Wake up! This is not dignified. This is not funny. This is way beneath the stature of the job. It’s downright weird," she said. "It’s obsessive in a weird way. Just when you think somone [sic] can’t stoop any lower, down they go…"

Trump disrespecting our slain President gets a pass from too many.  Is it sad what the US has become?

Yesterday, the House voted to allow Trump free will regarding war in Venezuela.   The downward spiral continues.

[Stable Genius]

[Suckrates]

6 hours ago, Stable Genius said:

He'll just find another way...."What Trump WANTS, Trump GETS !".......

Anyone that expected a different outcome HASNT learned their lesson yet.....

EVERY time there was an Epstein file deadline,   Trump pulled some STUNT to detract....  On the day of vote to release the files, HE TORE DOWN THE EAST WING,    on another Epstein day,  he started bombing boats in the Carribean,  then the government shutdown.....It's ALWAYS something bigger than Epstein to distract the public..... Like Maria Shriver said "Wake Up Americans"  your lives and country are being destroyed by a MAD MAN, who WANTS you to be miserable and hurting. although if you are WHITE, he will Tolerate you,  BUT if you are a person of color, he wants you GONE...  WHEN will it be ENOUGH for you ?  

[Suckrates]

 

The DOJ thinks they are "slick"......

with HEAVILY redacted pages of the files that are basically USELESS and totally "black"....

 

BUT......  and so do Americans. 

 

Pam Bondi, Bug Eye Patel and Trump need an ass whooping, and a nasty Impeachment.....   It's ALL coming,  patience my friends. 

[Pete1111]

On 7/16/2025 at 10:24 AM, stevenkesslar said:

 

Personally, I would rather believe in the America of Allan Lichtman.  His whole keys theory is built on the premise that voters are mostly smart.  And they make reasonable judgments based on issues like war and peace and the economy, stupid.  I still believe that.  Lichtman has been mostly right.  In 2024 I think his big mistake is he misjudged the impact of inflation on the economy, stupid.  They threw the bums out all over the world.  Mexico was a huge exception to the global trend, because AMLO specifically governed FOR the working class. 

This is from 2020, when Sanders got pushback because Rogan praised him and Sanders touted that:

So if Rogan likes the working class it seems like he should be pushing someone like AMLO.  Which Bernie kind of is, but too old and too lefty for America.  Rogan seems to have no idea what he stands for or what he believes in.

What it all boils down to to me is that we need someone like AMLO who can win.  And that ain't easy.  Sanders came close.  But it seemed clear his democratic socialism was a bridge too far.  It's not clear yet that Mandani will be able to get elected in a blue city like NYC.   The best we can probably hope for is someone more palatable than Sanders emerges in 2028 so that Rogan and guys like him can say, "Yeah, that guys real.  That guy stands for something.  That's a guy I like."

That may sound sexist or racist or homophobic or whatever.  But I am with Charlemagne on this, who was a Harris fanboy.  In part because she talked to him.  Do we want to win, or not?

Circling back to Lichtman,

LichtmanLive is on YouTube now, where they are discussing the Epstein files, global warming and more.  I like Dr. L's son.  😃

They are doing a membership drive.

That said, Merry Christmas everyone!

 

 

 

[Stable Genius]

Venezuela, Greenland, JFK Center renaming, Trump “battleships”, wind farm cancellations…all distractions from Epstein & the pedo files.

[Suckrates]

24 minutes ago, Stable Genius said:

Venezuela, Greenland, JFK Center renaming, Trump “battleships”, wind farm cancellations…all distractions from Epstein & the pedo files.

But they are DISTRUCTIVE distractions, and that there is the "problem".......

Personally, I am starting to lose interest in the Epstein shit,  because as time goes on, it seems EVERYONE is just treating it as a game, and not a serious thing....... It dominates every news cycle, but if people did their jobs, it shouldnt.   Really its a no brainer,  I mean after all, sex trafficking of kids  ?    Is this really a negotiation ?    Seems govt Coverups are the NEW 2025-2026 ?     Oh, and also murder at sea.....

[Stable Genius]

“I’m busy building golden ships named after me and cannot be bothered with your petty trafficking of young girls nonsense.”

~DJT~

[Suckrates]

5 hours ago, Stable Genius said:

“I’m busy building golden ships named after me and cannot be bothered with your petty trafficking of young girls nonsense.”

~DJT~

 

                   QUIET, PIGGY !

                     

[Stable Genius]

Donald Trump has said he has never flown on Epstein's plane, but we have proof he was on 8 flights.

UFC fighters backing out of his upcoming 250th Anniversary White House fight because they don’t want to be associated with a pedophile.

He is toast and everyone is starting to know it.

[Suckrates]

20 minutes ago, Stable Genius said:

Donald Trump has said he has never flown on Epstein's plane, but we have proof he was on 8 flights.

UFC fighters backing out of his upcoming 250th Anniversary White House fight because they don’t want to be associated with a pedophile.

He is toast and everyone is starting to know it.

At this point we ALL know that if he is speaking, HE IS LYING.......yet his die hard supporters wont leave him, and still believe him......

It doesnt matter that he may be weakening because he still is the most powerful man in the world, without "accountibility", and HE IS INSANE !      A weak INSANE man can do a lot of Damage.... and he still has All his backup dancers in the Cabinet covering up for him....

When mainstream celebrities like Nicki Minaj support him and sing his praises,  he's remains a force to be reckoned with. 

[stevenkesslar]

3 hours ago, Suckrates said:

yet his die hard supporters wont leave him, and still believe him......

Therein lies the rub.

Trump said it best himself.

 

To put it bluntly, how important is it really that a gross man with a gross penis tried to prove something about how he is not gross and disgusting, like even Epstein said?  Who cares if the gross piece of shit who is our POTUS raped the girl before he shot her on 5th Ave? 

His bat shit crazy supporters will believe any lie and swallow his shit whole.  She was a Marxist like AOC from some other shit hole probably.  Who cares?

It is who some of his supporters - maybe most - are.  It is what they do.  @lookin would refer us to studies on "authoritarian followers."  He is right.

I make a distinction that I find both honest and helpful, which I will put in family terms. 

I have a niece who falls into the borderline bat shit crazy category above.  I have almost no respect for anything she believes.  And I would not believe a word she says about politics.  She makes it easy because she says things are not true, racist, arrogant, or all three all the time.   As my niece would say, if Trump killed or even deported someone they were probably the type of person who respected Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey.  Why do we want THOSE people in OUR country?  

I also have a nephew I deeply admire who I view as a pragmatic right-of-center Romney type guy.  Much like my Reagan Republican Dad was.  Those people tolerate Trump.  And I think it is true that if Romney had won in 2012, Trump in 2016 would never have happened.  But pragmatic conservatives know the difference between a loser like Romney, as Trump keeps pointing out.  And a winner like Trump, as Trump keeps pointing out. 

This nephew calls himself an independent.  Since that is now the politically correct thing to say for respectable moderates who vote for Trump.  Is there anything Trump could do that would cause a permanent break with my nephew?  Probably not.  Unless some moderate Democrat were the alternative.  Which "she's for us/them" Kamala Harris was not.

At this point I just write both of these individuals and the types they represent off as lost causes in 2026 or 2028.  Conservatives do of course have the right to be conservatives - bat shit crazy or not.  And there are more conservatives in the US than liberals like me.

The real game is affordability.  And I think that was true in 2016 and 2018 and 2020 as well.  Trump's polls in his first term were never lower than when he and his party tried to kill Obamacare.  Because it was and still is a conservative Holy Grail that matters much more than whether Trump raped or shot some 15 year old Marxist bitch who deserved to die because she came from some shit hole.  Right? 

Well, whatever people think about that 15 year old bitch like AOC or the Muslim bitch from Minnesota, they don't like their health care being cut.  See Election Results, 2018 and 2020.

And now our piece of shit POTUS and his party are doing it again.  Even rapist pedophiles can be dumb as rocks, it turns out.  Moderate Republicans know kicking millions off health care or making them pay a lot more - Happy New Year! -  is a political disaster.  But what the fuck are they supposed to do?  I mean, they are only members of Congress.  Until they get blown away by angry voters in November, at least.

So we are stuck, at least until November 2026.  

I blame it on Democrats.  Meaning us, since I am a lifelong Democrat.  We ignored the working class too much for too long.  And had there been no inflation in Biden's term maybe that would have been okay.  But high rent and pricey gas pissed enough Latinos and Blacks and Asians off that even they said something else is better than Biden.  Even Trump.

The math is very simple.  Every poll says inflation hurt the working class a lot, and also annoyed them.  Democrats had child tax credits that were mildly popular, especially among the tens of millions of working class families that got them.  And Obamacare subsidies.  Democrats themselves (thanks, Joe Manchin!) took the child tax credits away.  And now the Republicans are taking the health care subsidies away.  Good paying jobs, anyone?  Good luck, even if you are a recent Stanford grad.

Democrats should focus on one thing:  the working class.  What do they want?

This did work in our very own back yard, as i will keep repeating.  In a place called Mexico.  AMLO and now Sheinbaum focused government on one thing:  what will help the Mexican working class?  They raised wages and literally put money in the hands of the poor.  And they are wildly popular. 

And Trump is less popular in Mexico than anywhere else on the planet.  There's a lesson for Democrats there.

 

And there I go, being long winded.

Speaking of Mexico, Feliz Navidad!

 

[Suckrates]

35 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

Therein lies the rub.

Trump said it best himself.

 

To put it bluntly, how important is it really that a gross man with a gross penis tried to prove something about how he is not gross and disgusting, like even Epstein said?  Who cares if the gross piece of shit who is our POTUS raped the girl before he shot her on 5th Ave? 

His bat shit crazy supporters will believe any lie and swallow his shit whole.  She was a Marxist like AOC from some other shit hole probably.  Who cares?

It is who some of his supporters - maybe most - are.  It is what they do.  @lookin would refer us to studies on "authoritarian followers."  He is right.

I make a distinction that I find both honest and helpful, which I will put in family terms. 

I have a niece who falls into the borderline bat shit crazy category above.  I have almost no respect for anything she believes.  And I would not believe a word she says about politics.  She makes it easy because she says things are not true, racist, arrogant, or all three all the time.   As my niece would say, if Trump killed or even deported someone they were probably the type of person who respected Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey.  Why do we want THOSE people in OUR country?  

I also have a nephew I deeply admire who I view as a pragmatic right-of-center Romney type guy.  Much like my Reagan Republican Dad was.  Those people tolerate Trump.  And I think it is true that if Romney had won in 2012, Trump in 2016 would never have happened.  But pragmatic conservatives know the difference between a loser like Romney, as Trump keeps pointing out.  And a winner like Trump, as Trump keeps pointing out. 

This nephew calls himself an independent.  Since that is now the politically correct thing to say for respectable moderates who vote for Trump.  Is there anything Trump could do that would cause a permanent break with my nephew?  Probably not.  Unless some moderate Democrat were the alternative.  Which "she's for us/them" Kamala Harris was not.

At this point I just write both of these individuals and the types they represent off as lost causes in 2026 or 2028.  Conservatives do of course have the right to be conservatives - bat shit crazy or not.  And there are more conservatives in the US than liberals like me.

The real game is affordability.  And I think that was true in 2016 and 2018 and 2020 as well.  Trump's polls in his first term were never lower than when he and his party tried to kill Obamacare.  Because it was and still is a conservative Holy Grail that matters much more than whether Trump raped or shot some 15 year old Marxist bitch who deserved to die because she came from some shit hole.  Right? 

Well, whatever people think about that 15 year old bitch like AOC or the Muslim bitch from Minnesota, they don't like their health care being cut.  See Election Results, 2018 and 2020.

And now our piece of shit POTUS and his party are doing it again.  Even rapist pedophiles can be dumb as rocks, it turns out.  Moderate Republicans know kicking millions off health care or making them pay a lot more - Happy New Year! -  is a political disaster.  But what the fuck are they supposed to do?  I mean, they are only members of Congress.  Until they get blown away by angry voters in November, at least.

So we are stuck, at least until November 2026.  

I blame it on Democrats.  Meaning us, since I am a lifelong Democrat.  We ignored the working class too much for too long.  And had there been no inflation in Biden's term maybe that would have been okay.  But high rent and pricey gas pissed enough Latinos and Blacks and Asians off that even they said something else is better than Biden.  Even Trump.

The math is very simple.  Every poll says inflation hurt the working class a lot, and also annoyed them.  Democrats had child tax credits that were mildly popular, especially among the tens of millions of working class families that got them.  And Obamacare subsidies.  Democrats themselves (thanks, Joe Manchin!) took the child tax credits away.  And now the Republicans are taking the health care subsidies away.  Good paying jobs, anyone?  Good luck, even if you are a recent Stanford grad.

Democrats should focus on one thing:  the working class.  What do they want?

This did work in our very own back yard, as i will keep repeating.  In a place called Mexico.  AMLO and now Sheinbaum focused government on one thing:  what will help the Mexican working class?  They raised wages and literally put money in the hands of the poor.  And they are wildly popular. 

And Trump is less popular in Mexico than anywhere else on the planet.  There's a lesson for Democrats there.

 

And there I go, being long winded.

Speaking of Mexico, Feliz Navidad!

 

 

Economy ?    Affordability ?   Americans suffering ?      WHERE ?      I was i n the supermarket yesterday and there were shoppers of every Color with carts filled to the brim, spending hundreds of dollars..... HOW can they whine about not having it, but spending it like drunken sailors.      Thats why Trump wonders where the affordibility problem is.....

Recent reports show a 4.7% INCREASE in retail HOLIDAY shopping......  WHERE's the problem ?      

Come on now.  If you want to RUN on t problem, people have to act like there IS a problem..... That aint happening, and it strengthens Trumps supporters view that its ALL bullshit. 

Thats my new word....BULLSHIT.....

Release of Epstein files?      BULLSHIT

Affordability crisis ?  BULLSHIT

Healthcare crisis ?    LIke Mitch McConnel said in a closed door meeting,  "PEOPLE WILL GET OVER IT".....

And so, Insane Trump rages on,  making plans to acquire Venezuela and Greenland, and maybe even Canada, because only HE can manage the balance of world power !    

As for political converts like Nicki Minaj will keep flocking to Trump BECAUSE they are seeking PARDONS..... In her case its for her young husband who is in prison as a sex offender,   and we all KNOW that Trump loves a criminal, especially a SEX OFFENDER ! 

• Husband's Legal Issues: Kenneth Petty was convicted in federal court in 2022 for failing to register as a sex offender after moving to California with Minaj in 2019. He had previously been convicted of attempted first-degree rape in New York in the 1990s.

OK, like @stevenkesslar, my rant is OVER.....

 

[Pete1111]

A lot of people say it, that Trump has been a lying psychopath his whole life, since the time he stoned the neighbor's toddler that was outside getting some sun, which resulted in military school for Donny Boy.  I hear a lot of people saying this.

Lying is 2nd nature to our dear leader.

 

 

 

 

Elsewhere ...

From HuffPost article on released Epstein files...  

 

Some Redactions In Epstein Files Can Be Easily Removed

Some redactions in the batch of thousands of files related to late sex predator Jeffrey Epstein can be easily removed.

Internet sleuths began posting un-redacted copies of the Justice Department files after using Photoshop, or just by simply highlighting text to paste into a Word document.

☝🏻
The Kremlin is probably slapping their collective knees and guffawing over this.

 

 

 

 

 

[Suckrates]

16 minutes ago, Pete1111 said:

A lot of people say it, that Trump has been a lying psychopath his whole life, since the time he stoned the neighbor's toddler that was outside getting some sun, which resulted in military school for Donny Boy.  I hear a lot of people saying this.

Lying is 2nd nature to our dear leader.

 

 

 

 

Elsewhere ...

From HuffPost article on released Epstein files...  

 

Some Redactions In Epstein Files Can Be Easily Removed

Some redactions in the batch of thousands of files related to late sex predator Jeffrey Epstein can be easily removed.

Internet sleuths began posting un-redacted copies of the Justice Department files after using Photoshop, or just by simply highlighting text to paste into a Word document.

☝🏻
The Kremlin is probably slapping their collective knees and guffawing over this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

PEDOPHILIA ?

MURDER AT SEA ?

IMMIGRANT PERSECUTION ?

RETRIBUTION ?

SEIIZING FOREIGN LANDS ?

 

Trump says....   about it !

[stevenkesslar]

1 hour ago, Suckrates said:

OK, like @stevenkesslar, my rant is OVER.....

And a fine rant it was, my beloved Sister In Cock.  Happy well hung holiday to you, too!

At first I thought you were doing a parody rant like I would do.  Then I took you to be serious. 

Either way, you are right.   Affordability is a real problem.  And a lot of people, including both Republican and Democratic leaders, are acting as if it is not.  They believe their own BULLSHIT.  Or they feel powerless to do anything, even if they are one of those elected people everyone is feeling more contempt for.

The nephew I described above said something interesting, that I think is why you are right both ways.

He is involved in these discussions, as part of his consulting firm's work, about the impact tariffs will have on auto prices.  His view, which I see as a serious position that makes the whole MAGA thing look like it has a point, is that some increases in price are necessary.  That way more cars can be made in more factories here, as opposed to Mexico.  By more living wage American factory workers  (But not immigrants, got help us.)  

Now, let's forget about the fact that the massive loss of factory jobs pretty much happened when a Republican, W, was President.  And that it was these best in class huge consulting firms and the Romney moderates like my nephew who thought offshoring those auto factories to Mexico or China to lower prices was just a swell idea.  That was then, this is now.

Did I mention we literally were having this discussion in his brand new luxury state of the art SUV?  In a red state, or course.

He said the winner of the game, meaning auto companies and suppliers, will be the companies that absorb the tariffs in lower profits and raise prices LAST.  Which makes sense, as a business strategy.  And I have no doubt a lot of that is happening.  Which is why tariffs have not already raised prices more. 

But the whole arguments starts with the premise that people who already feel hit by higher rent and high mortgage rates and all the past and present inflation in the decade are now going to have to handle more expensive cars.  In addition to losing health care subsidies.  All based on the unfounded notion that car companies will hire people, not robots or AI.  If the strategy even works at all.

I think the best experts are right in saying at least half the affordability crisis is housing, period.  Rent, or mortgage rates.  That helped Mamdani get elected, for sure.  But if there is a second, it has to be cars and auto loans and gas prices.  And Trump has lowered gas prices, to his credit.  But anyone who wants to buy a car is going to pay more, sooner or later.

And car prices are already going up thanks to tariffs, although they are disguising them in things like much higher destination charges.

Did I mention that in December 2025 we have about 70,000 FEWER manufacturing jobs in the US than in January, when America got on a fast track to become great again?  One year in we have higher car prices and fewer factory jobs.  Was THAT the plan?

So I agree with your word, Sis.  BULLSHIT.  It's all bullshit.  And frankly I think the people planning these moves, including my very smart nephew who I respect, are out of touch.  They drive lovely cars and live in lovely homes, and they are very out of touch.  Like me they read FRED reports and know lots of data.  But they don't know, or even talk to, the average working class iffy 2024 Trump voter, I suspect.

I asked my nephew if he thought all these higher car prices would cause a political backlash.  He said no, basically.

It is happening already, less than a year in.  I think smart Republicans who are listening to voters and polls know they are in trouble.  They may be wrapped up in their own BULLSHIT.  But voters, especially working class swing voters who will decide the outcome, are not.

The question, again, is what the fuck are Democrats going to do about it?  Try to elect Joe Manchin so he can promote coal mining or other things that enrich his family?  While he whines about how we can't afford child tax credits or health care subsidies?

Rant over.  Feliz Navidad.

[Suckrates]

55 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

And a fine rant it was, my beloved Sister In Cock.  Happy well hung holiday to you, too!

At first I thought you were doing a parody rant like I would do.  Then I took you to be serious. 

Either way, you are right.   Affordability is a real problem.  And a lot of people, including both Republican and Democratic leaders, are acting as if it is not.  They believe their own BULLSHIT.  Or they feel powerless to do anything, even if they are one of those elected people everyone is feeling more contempt for.

Rant over.  Feliz Navidad.

 

Back at ya, Sis !