TDS or Trump derangement syndrome updates

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This thread is for post regarding Trump derangement syndrome. I hope you find it entertaining and educational 👍

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[Stable Genius]

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[Goober]

donOLD is 79 years old. Does he still get a patriotic "stand at attention" woodie when he humps the flag?

[Suckrates]

The only DERANGEMENT that exists is in the minds of Trump, the GOP, right wing media , Trump cult members AND The Not-So-Supreme court.....

Even now, they continue to LIE about the Texas floods, and THEIR responsibility for the tragedy with their FAILURE to predict the disaster, and notify its Residents.  

Trumps thru line is always "if I were President, this or that would have NEVER happened".....

Well asshole, you ARE President, and therefore ARE responsible for the Texas deaths.    The blood on your hands is mounting.....

Holding a SHAM military raid on empty MacArthur Park will ONLY distract your mentally void sychophants.   

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[RockyRoadTravel]

There are a lot of Trump supporters who are truly deranged - Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone.  Promoting State control over people's bodies, promoting affirmative action for straight white men, promoting de-population of the USA, promoting more inequality, promoting the death of a middle class.  It's all fever swamp deranged thinking of the anti-American neo-conservatives. 

Trump's Derangement Syndrome - it's running America into the ditch one elitist, racist, neo-conservative, Christian Nationalist, NEPO baby step at a time.   

[stevenkesslar]

19 hours ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

the anti-American neo-conservatives. 

Agree.   But this is where it gets interesting.

This is not anti-American.  This is America.  At least, it is the America THEY want.  And they in this case is a pretty big chunk of people.  Not anywhere near the 49.8 % that elected Trump, for sure.  But a substantial part of it.

I look at it the way Donna Brazile does.

It has to kind of suck for her.  First, right or wrong, I associate her with losing campaigns.  Mondale.  Dukakis.  Gore.  Harris.  The campaigns she has played the largest role in were for candidates who all lost, I think.  To sound a bit racisty, maybe she is another DEI hire?  🙄  Second, with Harris I'm not sure she played any official campaign role.  I see her more as a behind the scenes strategist.  But at the risk of sounding like an anti-American deranged communist identity politics whacko myself, it had to hurt for a Black woman who has spent her life in Democratic politics to see this choice of electing a Black woman to lead America come so close, and then go down.  That is the America she, and I, wanted.

At the time, she said something like, "We chose a felon over a prosecutor.  Let's just sit with this for a while."   Like four years, perhaps? Part of it, which other Blacks like Eddie Glaude, Jr. expressed at the time, was this:  "Oh, like I am supposed to be surprised?  Oh, like as a Black man in America I had no clue whatsoever that this might be what America really is?"

But there I go being all identity politics whacko again.  I better be quiet.  They may deport me.

[Suckrates]

26 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

Agree.   But this is where it gets interesting.

This is not anti-American.  This is America.  At least, it is the America THEY want.  And they in this case is a pretty big chunk of people.  Not anywhere near the 49.8 % that elected Trump, for sure.  But a substantial part of it.

I look at it the way Donna Brazile does.

It has to kind of suck for her.  First, right or wrong, I associate her with losing campaigns.  Mondale.  Dukakis.  Gore.  Harris.  The campaigns she has played the largest role in were for candidates who all lost, I think.  To sound a bit racisty, maybe she is another DEI hire?  🙄  Second, with Harris I'm not sure she played any official campaign role.  I see her more as a behind the scenes strategist.  But at the risk of sounding like an anti-American deranged communist identity politics whacko myself, it had to hurt for a Black woman who has spent her life in Democratic politics to see this choice of electing a Black woman to lead America come so close, and then go down.  That is the America she, and I, wanted.

At the time, she said something like, "We chose a felon over a prosecutor.  Let's just sit with this for a while."   Like four years, perhaps? Part of it, which other Blacks like Eddie Glaude, Jr. expressed at the time, was this:  "Oh, like I am supposed to be surprised?  Oh, like as a Black man in America I had no clue whatsoever that this might be what America really is?"

But there I go being all identity politics whacko again.  I better be quiet.  They may deport me.

 

Only after they run out of Black and Brown folk will they start DEPORTING the horrible groomer GAYS......   I think you have some time Sis ?

[stevenkesslar]

9 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

 

Only after they run out of Black and Brown folk will they start DEPORTING the horrible groomer GAYS......   I think you have some time Sis ?

And I have Portugal.   And a patriotic American niece.

Seriously.  She just got back from a two week romp in Portugal with a gal pal.  Since her husband is not quite as rich and has less time off from his top tax bracket corporate job.  And, as is her way, she is texting me photos of lovely places she goes to from the Delta lounge as she awaits her final leg home.  So good to be back in the USA! 

She is for sure one of the MAGA folk who loves the Big Beautiful Bill.  Especially the tax cuts.  And is more proud of Trump's America than the Sleepy Joe version.  So in a sense it is thanks to her, because she is full on MAGA, that I may get deported.  But, shit, I can just go on a trip to Portugal or Mexico with her.  A very long one. 

Besides, Trump loves The Gays.  Right?  Doesn't he?

I love the film version of Game Change.  There is a scene toward the end where Julianne More as Sarah Palin is in some banquet room, talking about how we are the real Americans.  Everyone in the room is White.  And presumably Straight and rich.  (Maybe Scott Bessent popped in?)  Happily, the room is now a bit less segregated than in 2008. I can't find a clip of that scene.  But here is what Julianne as Sarah says:

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We believe the best of America is not found in Washington DC.  We believe the best of America is found in these small towns that we get to visit.  And in these wonderful pockets of what I call ..... the real America.   (Question to self:  Do Elon Musk and the billionaire donors who will get the biggest tax cuts live in these small towns?  Or is that where the lazy Medicaid MAGA riff raff live?)

Point is this has been building for a long time.  And for some reason it helps me to put some members of my family in that fictional room.  They are those people, who do feel we are the true America. God bless them.  Maybe it helps humanize something that is, to me, essentially sad.  And cruel.

But I have nothing to worry about.  Trump is just as likely to hurt me as he is to hurt his own voters, who need Medicaid or food.  He promised never to do that.  And as our dog barks incessantly, Trump is a man of his word.

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2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

But I have nothing to worry about.  Trump is just as likely to hurt me as he is to hurt his own voters, who need Medicaid or food.  He promised never to do that.  And as our dog barks incessantly, Trump is a man of his word.

Bless your heart !     In todays climate, I would never embrace "family members" that support Trump.   Their support of him means they are in favor of hurting me..... Family or not, FUCK THAT SHIT......   GONE are the the days where support for Different parties can still sustain loving relations between friends, family and co workers.  At least for ME...   Trump supports are greedy and hateful, and these days outwardly racist.....   I could never sit across a table and enjoy a nice meal with them....And I would never invite them into my home.....  Perhaps thats the problem in a nutshell ?   But lets blame Taco Don for making us divisive and partisan.....  No apologies from me.  Trump has openly declared he hates Dems.....   Well I have some tea for him,  I hate HIM and his Trumpers......   All those Lying mother fuckers can kiss my Big Gay Ass while they attack and harm us with their Big Beautiful Bill.....

[stevenkesslar]

37 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

Bless your heart !     In todays climate, I would never embrace "family members" that support Trump.   Their support of him means they are in favor of hurting me..... Family or not, FUCK THAT SHIT......   GONE are the the days where support for Different parties can still sustain loving relations between friends, family and co workers.  At least for ME...   Trump supports are greedy and hateful, and these days outwardly racist.....   I could never sit across a table and enjoy a nice meal with them....And I would never invite them into my home.....  Perhaps thats the problem in a nutshell ?   But lets blame Taco Don for making us divisive and partisan.....  No apologies from me.  Trump has openly declared he hates Dems.....   Well I have some tea for him,  I hate HIM and his Trumpers......   All those Lying mother fuckers can kiss my Big Gay Ass while they attack and harm us with their Big Beautiful Bill.....

I do blame Taco Don.  I have said that repeatedly.  He is playing divide and conquer.  And it comes at a price.  The interesting question for historians will be:  did it have to be this way?  Is this the only way Republicans can win 49.8 % of the vote?  And what were the long term consequences? 

 In 2008 and 2020, in different times and different ways, Obama and Biden said they wanted to unite America.  And they won more than 50 % of the vote.  So why did it have to be Trump, and why did it have to be this way?

That is why I loved Game Change.  In both subtle and obvious ways it demonstrated how this has been growing for a long time.  Trump is more symptom than cause.  But he sure added fuel to the fire.  More than anything, I think Trump showed the GOP that if they got nasty and fought and lied they could win, barely.  McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, who were nicer guys with more principles, could not.  And the victory is tax cuts for Trump donors, and Medicaid and SNAP cuts for the unworthy working class Trump voters.  This is not a sustainable strategy to win.

Not to be a gossiping bitch, but.

My niece is not welcome in my home.  She is, in her own words, OCD.  So we do Air BnB's.    As far as restaurants go, I won't clock her for her politics.  But I did clock her for being a snob.  She has a reputation in my family for being the one who will choose the restaurant and then make a show out of bitching about how the food is not right. Or the service sucks, or it is too noisy, or whatever.  So I recently had to clock her for that.  To her credit, she got the memo.  And I'd like to think it is only Republicans that are snobs.  But as a former escort in California I have met plenty of Democratic snobs, too.

The deeper issue is you sound like a Gay man who is one of my best friends.  I have always been a political whore.  He has incrementally become more political as he ages.  Mostly about LGBTQ politics.  So we have talked about this a lot.  And we are different.  It is agonizing for him.  But, more than me, he can't overlook the fact that siblings who say they love him vote for people who appoint Pete Hegseth to tear down Gays in the military.  I simply draw the line at family.

I learned that from my Dad, who was a Reagan Republican.  I think we could talk about almost anything with love and respect.  Me being Gay was probably the hardest thing for him.  But that is a whole different story.

Which is, by the way, a very sound basis for The Gays to feel good.  I was recently in a nephew's home surrounded by extended family who was 90 % MAGA.  We were talking politics.  And I did literally joke, "I'm Gay, I'm liberal, and I'm a Democrat.  And I am even from California.  I am truly fucked!"  Everyone laughed.  I could not have done that 30 or 40 years ago.  And it is the Gay part that would most likely be the deal breaker.  Still is, in some cases. 

To me it speaks to the tremendous victory we won, changing hearts and changing laws.  Hegseth would probably roll it all back if he could.  Scott Bessent would not. 

That's thanks to us, Sis.  And our broad community.  We changed America - and the world - for the good.  And they can't take that back.  So maybe there is hope for America yet.

[Suckrates]

9 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

To me it speaks to the tremendous victory we won, changing hearts and changing laws.  Hegseth would probably roll it all back if he could.  Scott Bessent would not. 

That's thanks to us, Sis.  And our broad community.  We changed America - and the world - for the good.  And they can't take that back.  So maybe there is hope for America yet.

Au Contrair my dear Sis,  I find Bessent more despicable than Hegseth, because HE should know better.....  He is an uppity, entitled GAY snob that looks down on Gays he considers "beneath" him because of position and wealth.....His speaking is always an "affected" performance.   He acts like his "shit dont stink".   And I dont believe he sees himself as part of the Gay community.  Most likely he's one of those self-hating Gays,  the worst kind.   Yes I find him truly more repulsive than Hegseth. 

 

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Au Contrair my dear Sis,  I find Bessent more despicable than Hegseth, because HE should know better.....  He is an uppity, entitled GAY snob that looks down on Gays he considers "beneath" him because of position and wealth.....His speaking is always an "affected" performance.   He acts like his "shit dont stink".   And I dont believe he sees himself as part of the Gay community.  Most likely he's one of those self-hating Gays,  the worst kind.   Yes I find him truly more repulsive than Hegseth. 

 

And NEITHER are welcome to stay at my house.

So there!  😉

[Stable Genius]

[Goober]

As our lonely MAGAt forum member continually demonstrates, it's difficult for the simple-minded to deprogram themselves from a cult.

[Suckrates]

15 minutes ago, Goober said:

As our lonely MAGAt forum member continually demonstrates, it's difficult for the simple-minded to deprogram themselves from a cult.

Hopefully at some point, Tacp Don reaches the Jim Jones psychosis level and makes them ALL drink HIS Trump branded Kool Aid ?   👍     That's what I call MASS DEPORTATION of MAGA !!!!!!!!!

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, Goober said:

As our lonely MAGAt forum member continually demonstrates, it's difficult for the simple-minded to deprogram themselves from a cult.

It's the cruelty, stupid.

Or wait.   Is it just the stupidity?  🤔

Anyhoo, as long as he is a good and loyal and true and cruel MAGA pup, he won't be hungry or sick or deported.  He'll get his treats.

Here boy!  Good boy!   What a good loyal puppy you are!

[stevenkesslar]

2 hours ago, Goober said:

As our lonely MAGAt forum member continually demonstrates, it's difficult for the simple-minded to deprogram themselves from a cult.

This is going to be an interesting one, regarding MAGA programming versus reality.

 

Republicans in Washington are nervous about Medicaid. Not in Valadao’s California district

 

There's a handful of swing House districts in SoCal that have flipped around since Trump first appeared.   Valadao is the Republican who has probably done the best job of keeping his district red.  He was first elected in 2012.  And in several cycles he has been in one of the closest House races in the country.  He did lose the seat one time, in 2018, by a whisker, and then won it back by a whisker in 2020.

So that article is interesting because it quotes local Republican leaders in his district basically saying, "Oh, no.  These Medicaid cuts won't hurt him at all.  People won't believe it."  It is an interesting example of your point.  When you are inside the cult, why would you even consider any other possibility?

Valadao is seemingly in the cult, but not quite of the cult.  He did vote to impeach Trump.  And is one of only two Republicans who did so that is left standing.  The article states Republicans know that if they primary Valadao, they probably lose the district.  But of course Team MAGA now feels that Valadao is back in the cult's good graces, since he voted loyally.  

The one time he did lose his race in 2018 was after he voted to kill Obamacare.  In these super close races anything can make a difference.  But while the cult may have loved the idea of slaying Obamacare, seems like voters in his district didn't.  So next year we'll get to see how they feel about Valadao voting to slay Medicaid in a district heavily reliant on it.

There is this notion that it won't matter because the pain doesn't start until after the midterms.  Except the Republicans may be a bit too clever. The same was true in 2010.  Obamacare was law, but not implemented.  Didn't matter.  Democrats got their ass kicked.  Republicans did not kill Obamacare in 2018.  Regardless, it was the fact that Valadao voted to do so that seemed to kill him. 

So I don't buy the notion that voters actually have to feel the knife in their back to know they have been lied to and betrayed.

 

 

[Suckrates]

48 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

This is going to be an interesting one, regarding MAGA programming versus reality.

So I don't buy the notion that voters actually have to feel the knife in their back to know they have been lied to and betrayed.

 

 

Realizing you have been LIED to and betrayed is one layer, but if it doesnt manifest in Reality, it doesnt matter or affect you.   Thats why so many people voted for Trump in 2024....  Dems kept ranting how awful and dangerous Trump was and how ominous his threats were,  BUT they claimed he said many of the same things in 2016 but they NEVER CAME TO FRUITION, and for them it lessened the THREAT of Trump in 2024.... And Voila !    they ELECTED him again.

So please Sis, dont get cocky and discount the power of the "knife in the back".....  Sometimes its THAT knife that kills you  !    And it should be clear that the typical Trump voter accepts being lied to and betrayed by him......  Its part of his "schtick"..... He's unpredictable and they LOVE THAT.....   They love how every crazy Trump utterance throws the DEMS into a "frenzy", and they love how ineffective the Dems appear to be in pushing back against Taco Don.   

So I guess we aint in the same "glory hole" on this point hon ?   😏

[Pete1111]

On 7/8/2025 at 6:39 AM, Goober said:

donOLD is 79 years old. Does he still get a patriotic "stand at attention" woodie when he humps the flag?

Not only does he love humping Old Glory against his tiny baby penis,

Donnie loves when other countries speak our English language.  LMFAO