Hurgarda

[Savashxxx]

Hey Guys,

I read all the posts about Egypt and wondering if you can give me some advice (even PM) where to stay safe and clean without dormen, that i can hook up with guys. I was in Hurgarda before but in Hotel, and even hotel stuff was afraid to do anything.. Pls some advice, thx a lot  

[young11]

On 3/11/2026 at 7:23 PM, Savashxxx said:

Hey Guys,

I read all the posts about Egypt and wondering if you can give me some advice (even PM) where to stay safe and clean without dormen, that i can hook up with guys. I was in Hurgarda before but in Hotel, and even hotel stuff was afraid to do anything.. Pls some advice, thx a lot  

I think you need to contribute more before asking for a favor. Most guys don't feel comfortable with sending such info to new members without many posts

[osce]

Is this really true? On the thai/southeast asian section, everyone's so nice, including with newbies. There's this one thread of a newbie traveling to thailand for the first time asking for guidance, and all the senior members were so positive and supportive, not once being negative at all. They shared all kind of info and even went to meet and guide the newbie! Kinda shocking to see your response, and hope that it's not true.

[khaolakguy]

21 minutes ago, osce said:

Is this really true? On the thai/southeast asian section, everyone's so nice, including with newbies.

I think without realising it you are comparing chickens and eggs. 

 Thailand especially is very easy going regarding both homosexuality and the adult sex trade. Hotels and airbnbs etc are open to local sex partners visiting their guests. They have nothing to hide.

 On the other hand in most of the North African countries discussed in this forum, homosexuality is illegal, sex tourists are unwelcome, and it is illegal to entertain a local in a tourists’ hotel room. 

 By necessity contributors here will be more cautious than they would be in the thai forums in order to protect the underground nature of contacts in these countries.

[Savashxxx]

On 3/13/2026 at 11:06 PM, young11 said:

I think you need to contribute more before asking for a favor. Most guys don't feel comfortable with sending such info to new members without many posts

yeahe i should post more, but i am one of them who just came here if i need something like the most of the guys i guess

[Savashxxx]

14 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

 

I think without realising it you are comparing chickens and eggs. 

 Thailand especially is very easy going regarding both homosexuality and the adult sex trade. Hotels and airbnbs etc are open to local sex partners visiting their guests. They have nothing to hide.

 On the other hand in most of the North African countries discussed in this forum, homosexuality is illegal, sex tourists are unwelcome, and it is illegal to entertain a local in a tourists’ hotel room. 

 By necessity contributors here will be more cautious than they would be in the thai forums in order to protect the underground nature of contacts in these countries.

Yes, I know that’s the main problem. People, including gay men, need to understand the culture there. Homosexuality is illegal, yes, but you also have to understand the nuances of what “homosexuality” actually means in these countries.
What many people in the West understand as homosexuality is this: sex with a guy at parties on the dancefloor, going to the sauna in Berlin, naked in a darkroom with almost no space to move, standing in the middle of hundreds of naked, horny (or rather, sex-addicted, empty bodies that often struggle with erections) people. Yes, that kind of thing is illegal here. And for that reason, I don’t even see myself as a gay man.
Middle Eastern countries are actually some of the best for sex if you know what I’m talking about. You can have sex with guys who would never look at you in Europe: maybe even guys who are considered straight there. But the sex is different from typical gay sex. In Arab countries it feels more like your first gay experience: the touching, the uncertainty, the adrenaline that makes your heart race. If you’re looking for kissing and romance, you’ll be very lonely there. If you remember your first sex or fantasies and they were about kissing a guy, don’t go to these countries.
In Egypt I had sex with almost every guy I was interested in. The point is: I’m not feminine. I’m fit and masculine, and Egyptian men want to touch me the moment I talk to them on the street. They constantly say “Show me your biceps” and try to grab. I think if you look openly gay, they won’t talk to you so freely on the street because someone might see it. You have to understand this as a gay man.
Intimacy depends on mood and situation, and I guess that’s the more natural form between two men. I’m also not really accepting of this Western gay culture either, it destroys the real intimacy between two men. If you asked me, I wouldn’t say I’m gay. I have sex with men, but that doesn’t mean I live a gay cultural life.
If you’re like me, you’ll have sex with some of the best men in the Middle East. Just be a warm, friendly person. When they sense that, they give you all the affection they have. But again,  this is not “gay sex.” It’s real intimacy between two men.

[NIrishGuy]

"I wouldn’t say I’m gay. I have sex with men"

Sorry to break to it you but you're gay ( or at least Bi) - you can dress it up anyway you want or deny your sexuality all you want but that's the bottom  ( or top  ) line, welcome to the club.

[KeepItReal]

5 hours ago, Savashxxx said:

Yes, I know that’s the main problem. People, including gay men, need to understand the culture there. Homosexuality is illegal, yes, but you also have to understand the nuances of what “homosexuality” actually means in these countries.
What many people in the West understand as homosexuality is this: sex with a guy at parties on the dancefloor, going to the sauna in Berlin, naked in a darkroom with almost no space to move, standing in the middle of hundreds of naked, horny (or rather, sex-addicted, empty bodies that often struggle with erections) people. Yes, that kind of thing is illegal here. And for that reason, I don’t even see myself as a gay man.
Middle Eastern countries are actually some of the best for sex if you know what I’m talking about. You can have sex with guys who would never look at you in Europe: maybe even guys who are considered straight there. But the sex is different from typical gay sex. In Arab countries it feels more like your first gay experience: the touching, the uncertainty, the adrenaline that makes your heart race. If you’re looking for kissing and romance, you’ll be very lonely there. If you remember your first sex or fantasies and they were about kissing a guy, don’t go to these countries.
In Egypt I had sex with almost every guy I was interested in. The point is: I’m not feminine. I’m fit and masculine, and Egyptian men want to touch me the moment I talk to them on the street. They constantly say “Show me your biceps” and try to grab. I think if you look openly gay, they won’t talk to you so freely on the street because someone might see it. You have to understand this as a gay man.
Intimacy depends on mood and situation, and I guess that’s the more natural form between two men. I’m also not really accepting of this Western gay culture either, it destroys the real intimacy between two men. If you asked me, I wouldn’t say I’m gay. I have sex with men, but that doesn’t mean I live a gay cultural life.
If you’re like me, you’ll have sex with some of the best men in the Middle East. Just be a warm, friendly person. When they sense that, they give you all the affection they have. But again,  this is not “gay sex.” It’s real intimacy between two men.

Real intimacy? Intimacy is waking up, day after day, in the arms of a partner that puts your needs first.  Random sex with guys that want to see your biceps is not intimacy.  I am glad you are having fun and getting what you need. Just don't confuse short lived affection for intimacy.  

[Savashxxx]

5 hours ago, NIrishGuy said:

"I wouldn’t say I’m gay. I have sex with men"

Sorry to break to it you but you're gay ( or at least Bi) - you can dress it up anyway you want or deny your sexuality all you want but that's the bottom  ( or top  ) line, welcome to the club.

 maybe but i dont care about and make it my whole identity.

[Savashxxx]

43 minutes ago, KeepItReal said:

Real intimacy? Intimacy is waking up, day after day, in the arms of a partner that puts your needs first.  Random sex with guys that want to see your biceps is not intimacy.  I am glad you are having fun and getting what you need. Just don't confuse short lived affection for intimacy.  

yes real Intimacy, not love  

 

[floridarob]

12 hours ago, Savashxxx said:

 maybe but i dont care about and make it my whole identity.

We have that in the west.... it's called being in the closet.

Also,  if men want to touch you when they talk to you, maybe you're more gay acting than you perceive.... it happens, I think I'm still a top 🤷‍♂️

[young11]

On 9/1/2026 at 1:21 AM, osce said:

Is this really true? On the thai/southeast asian section, everyone's so nice, including with newbies. There's this one thread of a newbie traveling to thailand for the first time asking for guidance, and all the senior members were so positive and supportive, not once being negative at all. They shared all kind of info and even went to meet and guide the newbie! Kinda shocking to see your response, and hope that it's not true.

Well someone already explained why but most things in the Arab world happen because people keep it low. If someone in a public forum specifies a person or a place we are just inviting problems for them. By new members without posts, we wouldn't know who they are. Maybe bored Egyptian police, who knows. The chances are low but what is the benefit of risking it at all? In the end the community only works if we all contribute. If most people just get information and never give back (such as yourself) this kinda forum is not sustainable. I hope you understand that before calling others negative and shocking. 

[young11]

On 9/1/2026 at 5:48 PM, Savashxxx said:

Middle Eastern countries are actually some of the best for sex if you know what I’m talking about. You can have sex with guys who would never look at you in Europe: maybe even guys who are considered straight there.

The point is: I’m not feminine. I’m fit and masculine, and Egyptian men want to touch me the moment I talk to them on the street. 

I agree with the first part. Always had sex with guys who would never even look at me in Europe or USA but I have had sex with some of the hottest guys I have ever seen. Even better than most escorts in Brazil.

Regarding the second part, I don't think it is about feminine vs masculine thing. I believe mostly it is tourist/outsider security. I am not muscled masculine guy (though I am not fem or typical obvious gay) and I had a lot of luck in the region, mostly just by having an eye contact. That's all it takes.

[Bruno]

On 9/1/2026 at 10:48 AM, Savashxxx said:

Yes, I know that’s the main problem. People, including gay men, need to understand the culture there. Homosexuality is illegal, yes, but you also have to understand the nuances of what “homosexuality” actually means in these countries.
What many people in the West understand as homosexuality is this: sex with a guy at parties on the dancefloor, going to the sauna in Berlin, naked in a darkroom with almost no space to move, standing in the middle of hundreds of naked, horny (or rather, sex-addicted, empty bodies that often struggle with erections) people. Yes, that kind of thing is illegal here. And for that reason, I don’t even see myself as a gay man.
Middle Eastern countries are actually some of the best for sex if you know what I’m talking about. You can have sex with guys who would never look at you in Europe: maybe even guys who are considered straight there. But the sex is different from typical gay sex. In Arab countries it feels more like your first gay experience: the touching, the uncertainty, the adrenaline that makes your heart race. If you’re looking for kissing and romance, you’ll be very lonely there. If you remember your first sex or fantasies and they were about kissing a guy, don’t go to these countries.
In Egypt I had sex with almost every guy I was interested in. The point is: I’m not feminine. I’m fit and masculine, and Egyptian men want to touch me the moment I talk to them on the street. They constantly say “Show me your biceps” and try to grab. I think if you look openly gay, they won’t talk to you so freely on the street because someone might see it. You have to understand this as a gay man.
Intimacy depends on mood and situation, and I guess that’s the more natural form between two men. I’m also not really accepting of this Western gay culture either, it destroys the real intimacy between two men. If you asked me, I wouldn’t say I’m gay. I have sex with men, but that doesn’t mean I live a gay cultural life.
If you’re like me, you’ll have sex with some of the best men in the Middle East. Just be a warm, friendly person. When they sense that, they give you all the affection they have. But again,  this is not “gay sex.” It’s real intimacy between two men.

Dear Savasxxx

Although I disagree with you on a number of aspects, I like how you enjoy the Middle East to the fullest. Many of the countries in that region have a very different societal set-up from what we are used to in Europe.

To start with, I disagree with your vision of homosexuality in 'the West'. Born in Western Europe in 1984, I am proud of the achievements this region has made in terms of including gay people in every aspect of society. Moreover, other minority groups are equally free to express their identities in the way they wish. All of this is protected by the rule of law and, importantly, accepted by the majority of society. That is a huge achievement and an enormous advantage, and it is not something I believe we should even begin to compare with the situation in the Middle East today.

Allow me to tell you a personal story from my days in Cairo, where I lived between 2015 and 2018. In that post-revolutionary, chaotic society, my Egyptian friends - gay, straight, and everything in between - would dream about the freedoms we Europeans take for granted and seem increasingly willing to sell out to the far right at every election.

In the neighbourhood where I lived, Maadi, gay parties would regularly take place in people's homes. In order not to raise suspicion, girls and 'masculine-looking guys' would be invited as well. At one of these events, the police did show up. One of the neighbours must have called them. I felt terrified. My Egyptian friends looked beyond terrified.

Many of them were detained; others were not. Of those who were detained, most were eventually released, but they spoke about the humiliation they had experienced. Two were kept in the police station for a couple of weeks. Their names and reputations were eventually damaged enormously by the authorities, their families, their friends, and their wider communities. As a foreigner, I was left alone. This is the Middle East. It is beautiful, warm and sexy, but many places are also brutal dictatorships in which you would not want to be born for a millisecond.

I often return to Egypt. In my opinion, it is an amazing yet deeply troubled society. Everyone wants to leave. Many Egyptians feel lost. Depression rates are enormous, and for many, survival is the number one priority. For them, sex can simply be fun. It is an escape. It is a great feeling. It can even be a personal revolt against cultural norms they feel unable to defeat, despite the attempts made during various recent revolutions.

When I am there, I always have great sex. No one questions whether I look masculine or feminine - whatever that might even mean. No one questions my sexuality. Who cares? Different genders? What are you talking about? People just want to have fun. They wantto be aliove, something they seem to miss out on in so many occasions. Unlike in the West, I believe are seen for who you are, regardless of your age, height or body. Perhaps this is because recognising one another, and being recognised by others, has become so important in a society where so much else feels uncertain. It may even be one of the main things people ultimately wish for on a broader, global scale - and something that is deeply embedded in their traditions and culture.

Does all of this make sense? 

B.