PeterRS Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 3/23/2026 at 7:20 PM, Keithambrose said: We had a well-known case over here in the UK that is indicative of the difficulties. A man told the police that he had been to gay orgy parties at which young boys had been used for sex, and a couple, killed. He implicated leading figures, including politicians, an army general etc. . . Subsequently the allegations were proved to have been completely fabricated, and the man who made the allegations was eventually prosecuted and sent to prison. The police did not seem to realise that the man, Carl Beech, was himself a paedophile. Reference this disgraceful legal event highlighted by @Keithambrose, the events described did in fact occur but in real life settings. There is a chilling book The Abuse of Power by Anthony Daly about a major scandal in London's SoHo in the 1970s when young men were routinely picked up and led into a life of utter degradation. I stress young men and not young boys - although there also seems to have been a lively trade in picking them up from train stations. The author was an Irishman who came to London aged 20 to work in its leading book store Foyles. Yet he still got sucked into a life of extreme and utter debauchery headed almost entirely by aristocrats, MPs, senior police officers, judges and celebrities, some of whom are actually named. It is an excellently written if often painful read. vinapu 1 Quote