Democrats Need BTE

[Suckrates]

44 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

Donalds' win is historic.  If he wins the general he will be the first Black Republican Governor.  

There's an endless list of things I don't like about the Trump version of the Republican Party.   But the fact that they will elect Black Governors and Senators in red states is not on the list.

I take it as a victory of Democrats, in part.  The Republicans looked at us and figured out they can't be the (exclusively) White Party.  As much as I am a partisan whore, I think it's good for America and good for minorities that both parties are now at least trying to compete for their votes.  And electing them to Congress and now a Governor's seat.

That said, I think the Republicans have a very hard lesson coming in 2026.  Anger about inflation opened a door for Republicans to Hispanics and Blacks and Asians in 2024.  And a lot of nasty shit Team Trump has done since then  seems to be slamming it closed again.  We'll see.

Not sure if Republican voters see Byron as anything more than Trumps DEI token black ?      But then again, it is Florida, Trumps home, so they wont care.....

Jolly had a great turnout though and would do a great job governing, while Donalds will just be "an Uncle Tom" for Trump.....

[stevenkesslar]

10 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Not sure if Republican voters see Byron as anything more than Trumps DEI token black ? 

Fair enough.   (White) Republicans love to rail again DEI in general.  And any Black Democrat as too stupid to be anything other than a DEI candidate, in the eyes of some of them.  Including Harris.  No racism there whatsoever! 

So it's fair to attack Donalds  as the DEI exception to the We Really Do Like White Power rule.

I think the concession the majority of Republicans have made to Obama and racism is that, in their eyes, skin color no longer matters.  Which I think is largely true, as this race suggests.  But they don't want to hear about DEI or racism or intersectionality. Because - again - race no longer matters.  And to the degree that we can say we voted for this Black Senator or that Black Governor because they were the best candidate, they have a point.  Like I said, I think this is mostly good for America.

I feel sorry for Tim Scott.  Unlike Donalds, his rise had nothing to do with Trump.  In fact, he ran against Trump in 2024 and got nowhere.  He is, albeit secretly, a DEI guy who feels the government should help Blacks and other minorities and women build Main Street capitalism.  If he were POTUS and Elizabeth Warren chaired the Banking Committee, they could make deals.  But as far as I can tell, Trump shit on and tore apart everything Tim Scott stood for.  So it's not a case of small cock energy so much as Tim Scott is simply politically castrated.

And speaking of politically castrated worthless pieces of shit ...........................

What's interesting about last night is Trump LOST most of the candidate races he endorsed.  Two House seats in Florida, and one Guv race in Wyoming. 

And since Trump is a scumbag and rapist, he of course just had to endorse the Republican scumbag Cory Mills.  Kudos to Republicans for doing what Democrats did in Maine.  Empty the trash.  They don't even want to follow the lead of their small cock losing lying piece of shit POTUS anymore.

All of this is more handwriting on the wall that the raping lying So Small A Cock It Has No Energy POTUS who is a genocidal piece of shit has overstayed his corrupt welcome with more and more Americans.  Did I mention the monstrous piece of shit got us into a monumentally losing Trump Forever War in Iran because he is a stupid egomaniac?  

Piece of shit!  Piece of shit!  Piece of shit! Loser SDE piece of shit who made America lose again.

What was even more interesting is that the Democrats went in two different directions at once. 

The DSA did not get the Guv candidate they wanted in Wisconsin.  But they did  get her in a Florida Senate race.  Which likely means its an even bigger loss for Democrats.  Meanwhile, the one hope Democrats do have - in Florida - is merging with the left wing of the Republican Party and putting forth former Republicans like Jolly and Crist.  

I like David Jolly.  He speaks to a bygone era of bipartisan politics I miss.  In Florida and Texas that could be the path for Democrats to win.  By building the moderate brand of the Democratic Party in red states while others like AOC and Bernie and El-Sayed try to build a more progressive version of the party elsewhere.  There is nothing new about the idea that the Southern part of the Democratic Party is always more conservative.

And I have to raise a toast to Bob Graham, former Senator and Guv of Florida who I adored from a distance.  His daughter Gwen is now Jolly's running mate. 

In retrospect, it was a big mistake that she narrowly lost the Democratic primary in 2018 to Andrew Gillum.  It was exciting at the time.  And he would have been Florida's first Black progressive Guv.  But it turned out he was a mess.  And it set the stage for DeSantis and Republicans to rise.  Had Gwen Graham won the primary in 2018 it might have been different.  Or, maybe, Jolly and her are just an echo of the bipartisan past.  We'll know in November.

[stevenkesslar]

One other footnote.

Two new polls are out showing El Sayed in the lead. One by 3 points, one by 7.  A recent Fox poll, which had been the only one after the primary, had him down by 4.

No reason to put much faith in any of these polls.  But, still, it is a relief.  It suggests there was no sudden swing away from El-Sayed after all the ranting and raving about how he will make it harder for Democrats to win.  If anything, these two polls suggest the opposite:  his message about how it's the economy, stupid, maybe was getting through.

That said, there are a whole lots of polls now that suggest Democrats need BTE:  big tent energy.  We have four states with a moderate and a progressive Democrat running statewide.  And in every state the candidate who can be labeled as the more moderate one is doing better.

In Michigan Benson has an 8 point lead, says RCP in their poll average, compared to 0.7 % for El-Sayed.

In Minnesota Klobuchar has a 12 point lead, compared to a 5 point lead for Flanagan.

In Georgia Ossoff has a 7 point lead, compared to 2 points for Lance Bottoms.

In Florida Jolly is down by 5 points, compared to 10 points down for Nixon.

I'm not sure it's quite correct to say Lance Bottoms is the progressive.  But Ossoff definitely has worked hard to present himself as bipartisan when it comes to legislating and constituent services.  And electing a Black Governor is a progressive thing in Georgia.  Or anywhere.

This gives Democrats a big clue about 2028.  We have to be a big tent party.  As a liberal, it breaks my heart that having a moderate at the top of the ticket may make sense politically.  But these numbers suggest it does make sense politically.  

[Suckrates]

4 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

One other footnote.

Two new polls are out showing El Sayed in the lead. One by 3 points, one by 7.  A recent Fox poll, which had been the only one after the primary, had him down by 4.

No reason to put much faith in any of these polls.  But, still, it is a relief.  It suggests there was no sudden swing away from El-Sayed after all the ranting and raving about how he will make it harder for Democrats to win.  If anything, these two polls suggest the opposite:  his message about how it's the economy, stupid, maybe was getting through.

That said, there are a whole lots of polls now that suggest Democrats need BTE:  big tent energy.  We have four states with a moderate and a progressive Democrat running statewide.  And in every state the candidate who can be labeled as the more moderate one is doing better.

In Michigan Benson has an 8 point lead, says RCP in their poll average, compared to 0.7 % for El-Sayed.

In Minnesota Klobuchar has a 12 point lead, compared to a 5 point lead for Flanagan.

In Georgia Ossoff has a 7 point lead, compared to 2 points for Lance Bottoms.

In Florida Jolly is down by 5 points, compared to 10 points down for Nixon.

I'm not sure it's quite correct to say Lance Bottoms is the progressive.  But Ossoff definitely has worked hard to present himself as bipartisan when it comes to legislating and constituent services.  And electing a Black Governor is a progressive thing in Georgia.  Or anywhere.

This gives Democrats a big clue about 2028.  We have to be a big tent party.  As a liberal, it breaks my heart that having a moderate at the top of the ticket may make sense politically.  But these numbers suggest it does make sense politically.  

 

Jolly's interviews are OVER-confident.   He continues to say that if the mids were today.....   HE would win ......

Florida is a tough nut to crack,  but its still hard for me to see Byron as the voters CHOICE.    There are a whole lotta old White Nationalists living there.....   and RACISM aint Dead !   

[Pete1111]

20 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

 

Jolly's interviews are OVER-confident.   He continues to say that if the mids were today.....   HE would win ......

Florida is a tough nut to crack,  but its still hard for me to see Byron as the voters CHOICE.    There are a whole lotta old White Nationalists living there.....   and RACISM aint Dead !   

...old, white racists delight in an Uncle Tom.  The likes of Clarence Thomas won't last forever. 

 

Byron Donalds is ready to carry on the mission.

 

[RockyRoadTravel]

30 minutes ago, Pete1111 said:

...old, white racists delight in an Uncle Tom.  The likes of Clarence Thomas won't last forever. 

 

Byron Donalds is ready to carry on the mission.

 

Pull the ladder up behind you, so no one else can follow you.  Clarence Thomas has been an historically terrible person on the Supreme Court. 

[Suckrates]

31 minutes ago, Pete1111 said:

...old, white racists delight in an Uncle Tom.  The likes of Clarence Thomas won't last forever. 

 

Byron Donalds is ready to carry on the mission.

 

Just hard for me to believe this traitor to Blacks would get any support from blacks, OR the old white racists who fear being "erased" by a growing black population ?     But again, it's Florida, and he'll ride Trumps shit stained diapers for as long as he can......

[Suckrates]

2 minutes ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

Pull the ladder up behind you, so no one else can follow you.  Clarence Thomas has been an historically terrible person on the Supreme Court. 

He's a black man that HATES blacks and wishes he were WHITE,  and therefore functions thru life as if he WERE white, and his quid pro quos with powerful WHITE men have made him a very Rich man !   

Just shows that people will EAT other peoples shit if there is benefits in it for them.   

[Goober]

58 minutes ago, Suckrates said:

Just hard for me to believe this traitor to Blacks would get any support from blacks, OR the old white racists who fear being "erased" by a growing black population ?     But again, it's Florida, and he'll ride Trumps shit stained diapers for as long as he can......

Republican registration has significantly outpaced that for Dems recently, and Florida voters will also be voting on a referendum to decrease property taxes in November, so voter turnout is expected to be much more than usual for a midterm. This should give Donalds an edge over Jolly. But we'll see how the general election campaigning goes. Donalds is running on affordability. How does he explain his support for donOLD's economic policies and his support for the war with Iran (he has sons that are letting others do the fighting; reminiscent of Barron T)?

[Suckrates]

7 minutes ago, Goober said:

Republican registration has significantly outpaced that for Dems recently, and Florida voters will also be voting on a referendum to decrease property taxes in November, so voter turnout is expected to be much more than usual for a midterm. This should give Donalds an edge over Jolly. But we'll see how the general election campaigning goes. Donalds is running on affordability. How does he explain his support for donOLD's economic policies and his support for the war with Iran (he has sons that are letting others do the fighting; reminiscent of Barron T)?

Trumps approval at all time Lows, signaling American want and need change.   What kind of change will they get voting with loyal, Trump aligned candidates ?   The change is their lives will continue to get worse,  while Trump & Co will continue to roll in dough......  The party label Republican is so embedded in their brains that they cant break free from it or consider any other options.   There are so many bigger more widespread issues in Florida than the single issue of property   taxes, and if voters DO have tunnel vision on that issue, then Byron can pull a Win, where he will then continue to push Trumps P2025 agenda on an already damaged Florida resident.   

[stevenkesslar]

3 hours ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

Pull the ladder up behind you, so no one else can follow you.  Clarence Thomas has been an historically terrible person on the Supreme Court. 

True!

I have mixed feelings about this.

Byron Donalds has to be truly loved by lots of Republicans.  Because he embraces, defends, and rationalizes their values as his own.

BYRON DONALDS   On the Issues

On a personal level, this is The Blind Side.  With a politician instead of a football player. 

Every Republican I knew at the time loved The Blind Side.  Because the point, while maybe understated in the film, is that if you embrace conservative and Christian values you can have a family and a home and a gun.  And all will be well.  The Tea Party, not Sandra Bulllock, was Donalds' path to conversion. 

So on a personal level, if this guy were my neighbor, I'd say, "Great.  If you are a conservative Black man and that lifestyle and those values work for you, go for it!"  And he definitely is going for it in a way that is historic.  

As has been noted, there are some inconsistencies there.  The affordability and (property and health) insurance crises happened under a Republican Governor.  And for 6 of the last 10 years Trump was POTUS, while Republicans religiously attacked Obamacare.  So Donalds has to dance around demonizing Joe Biden.  Who was both a communist who wrecked America (by expanding Obamacare, in part), and a corpse.

The rubber really hits the road with Obamacare.  He sees it as an effort to force people to live on government insurance.  He opposes keeping Obamacare subsidies, let alone expanding them.  Same old "repeal and replace" bullshit in my mind.  Jolly should portray him as an ideological zealot who wants to make health insurance even less affordable.

Donalds has a big health care problem.  About 4 million Florida residents, or 20 %, rely on Obamacare and Obamacare subsidies.  More than any other state.  That number is down 10 % in 2026 thanks to Republican attacks on ACA subsidies.  So Donalds and his party are going in the opposite directiion of Make Florida Affordable Again.  Jolly could win based on that alone.  If he can get past his own flip flops, since in Tea Party Times he was a Republican who voted to repeal Obamacare.

Tim Scott and Byron Donalds do share a belief in Main Street capitalism, including Black Main Street capitalism, as the answer to lots of problems.  Kudos to them.  

But I think there is a big difference between Scott and Donalds, from what I know.  Scott did build what could be called DEI policies and programs that MAGA, almost by definition, can't embrace.  Again, if race doesn't matter and racism is a DEI lie, why would we want something called a "Minority Business Development Agency"?  It's practically Satanic!

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Senate Banking Chair Tim Scott (R-S.C.) has spent years boosting a federal program to support minority-owned businesses. President Donald Trump’s administration dismantled it in a matter of weeks.

Where Donalds does seem to think things are Satanic is when it comes to stuff like Islam, and homosexuality.  

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In 2020, Donalds, along with six other Republicans in the Florida State Legislature, introduced several anti-LGBTQ bills that would repeal local ordinances that protect LGBTQ employees, legalize conversion therapy, and imprison doctors who provide transition-related medical care to minors.^[90]

 

3 hours ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

Pull the ladder up behind you, so no one else can follow you.  Clarence Thomas has been an historically terrible person on the Supreme Court. 

 

Sort of the same idea.  But in this case it's a bit more like saying the Democrats were evil to put down the ladder in the first place.  To use the language Wikipedia quotes from Donalds himself, the idea of Pete and Chasten having kids is just not "part of the natural order that keeps society progressing."  There were and are lots of Black Christians (and Hispanic and White Christians) that did and probably do still believe that.  My Mom and Dad were among them, until I came out.

This is gonna be interesting.  I genuinely like the fact that America is now Big Tent Enough that you can have a smart and savvy Black man win a Republican primary to govern Florida, based on conservative values.  But I hope centrists Jolly and Graham attack those values as extreme.  And not what makes America, or Florida, great.  I don't think 50 %+ 1 of people in Florida call themselves conservatives, like Donalds does.  

 

3 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Just hard for me to believe this traitor to Blacks would get any support from blacks, OR the old white racists who fear being "erased" by a growing black population ?

 

And my intellectually genius Sister In Cock (who is also much younger and prettier than me) is probably right that some number of Republicans may vote for the White Guy who used to be a Republican.  Or just not vote for the Guy With The Black Face, even if Trump endorsed him.  That probably is part of the reason "Amir Hassan" lost to "Tom Smith" in Michigan.  Happily, "Byron Donalds" does not sound Muslim or Black.  But in a close race old school racism - which no longer exists, apparently - could be why some Republicans don't vote for Donalds.  We'll see.

As my Sister In Cock says more succinctly than me, Florida is a tough nut to crack.  And she knows all about servicing the nuts of political leaders.  🙄

 

[Suckrates]

1 hour ago, stevenkesslar said:

True!

I have mixed feelings about this.

Byron Donalds has to be truly loved by lots of Republicans.  Because he embraces, defends, and rationalizes their values as his own.

BYRON DONALDS   On the Issues

On a personal level, this is The Blind Side.  With a politician instead of a football player. 

Every Republican I knew at the time loved The Blind Side.  Because the point, while maybe understated in the film, is that if you embrace conservative and Christian values you can have a family and a home and a gun.  And all will be well.  The Tea Party, not Sandra Bulllock, was Donalds' path to conversion. 

So on a personal level, if this guy were my neighbor, I'd say, "Great.  If you are a conservative Black man and that lifestyle and those values work for you, go for it!"  And he definitely is going for it in a way that is historic.  

As has been noted, there are some inconsistencies there.  The affordability and (property and health) insurance crises happened under a Republican Governor.  And for 6 of the last 10 years Trump was POTUS, while Republicans religiously attacked Obamacare.  So Donalds has to dance around demonizing Joe Biden.  Who was both a communist who wrecked America (by expanding Obamacare, in part), and a corpse.

The rubber really hits the road with Obamacare.  He sees it as an effort to force people to live on government insurance.  He opposes keeping Obamacare subsidies, let alone expanding them.  Same old "repeal and replace" bullshit in my mind.  Jolly should portray him as an ideological zealot who wants to make health insurance even less affordable.

Donalds has a big health care problem.  About 4 million Florida residents, or 20 %, rely on Obamacare and Obamacare subsidies.  More than any other state.  That number is down 10 % in 2026 thanks to Republican attacks on ACA subsidies.  So Donalds and his party are going in the opposite directiion of Make Florida Affordable Again.  Jolly could win based on that alone.  If he can get past his own flip flops, since in Tea Party Times he was a Republican who voted to repeal Obamacare.

Tim Scott and Byron Donalds do share a belief in Main Street capitalism, including Black Main Street capitalism, as the answer to lots of problems.  Kudos to them.  

But I think there is a big difference between Scott and Donalds, from what I know.  Scott did build what could be called DEI policies and programs that MAGA, almost by definition, can't embrace.  Again, if race doesn't matter and racism is a DEI lie, why would we want something called a "Minority Business Development Agency"?  It's practically Satanic!

Where Donalds does seem to think things are Satanic is when it comes to stuff like Islam, and homosexuality.  

 

 

Sort of the same idea.  But in this case it's a bit more like saying the Democrats were evil to put down the ladder in the first place.  To use the language Wikipedia quotes from Donalds himself, the idea of Pete and Chasten having kids is just not "part of the natural order that keeps society progressing."  There were and are lots of Black Christians (and Hispanic and White Christians) that did and probably do still believe that.  My Mom and Dad were among them, until I came out.

This is gonna be interesting.  I genuinely like the fact that America is now Big Tent Enough that you can have a smart and savvy Black man win a Republican primary to govern Florida, based on conservative values.  But I hope centrists Jolly and Graham attack those values as extreme.  And not what makes America, or Florida, great.  I don't think 50 %+ 1 of people in Florida call themselves conservatives, like Donalds does.  

 

 

And my intellectually genius Sister In Cock (who is also much younger and prettier than me) is probably right that some number of Republicans may vote for the White Guy who used to be a Republican.  Or just not vote for the Guy With The Black Face, even if Trump endorsed him.  That probably is part of the reason "Amir Hassan" lost to "Tom Smith" in Michigan.  Happily, "Byron Donalds" does not sound Muslim or Black.  But in a close race old school racism - which no longer exists, apparently - could be why some Republicans don't vote for Donalds.  We'll see.

As my Sister In Cock says more succinctly than me, Florida is a tough nut to crack.  And she knows all about servicing the nuts of political leaders.  🙄

 

As my very best friend and financial beneficiary Edris, who is also a BLACK woman says, "Byron embraces people, values and ideology that, AS A BLACK MAN,  he shouldn't.   He supports and bolsters a man and a mission meant to, and aimed at "bringing him down" as a human being, and doesnt recognize him as an EQUAL American, because he is BLACK.  So for her, Byron has ZERO value as a person and community member....

And IMHO,  is Byron REALLY a smart and savvy Black man OR simply just an "opportunist" that got LUCKY when Trump seized and embraced him as a MAGA token ?   

And that's the REAL tea !      

[stevenkesslar]

1 hour ago, Suckrates said:

And IMHO,  is Byron REALLY a smart and savvy Black man OR simply just an "opportunist" that got LUCKY when Trump seized and embraced him as a MAGA token ? 

I don't disagree with your friend at all.

There's a difference between a Black woman saying a Black man should not embrace these conservative values and ideology, because it hurts Black people,  and a White man - aka moi - saying the same.  This is the debate Florida, and the Black community in Florida,  needs to have.

This much is true.  There are a lot of young Black college-educated men who have the wrong values and ideology, by your friend's standard.  And I think the reason is obvious.  Republicans, especially in the South, used to go out of their way to make it obvious they were against Black people.  Now, in the South, they elect Black people to be Senators and Governors.

What does it mean when a Black Republican says Obamacare, which helps lots of working class Black and Hispanic and White people afford health care, should be taken away?  That's a values debate Florida will now have.  It complicates it that the Democratic running against Donalds was a Republican who voted to repeal Obamacare.

I think if there really is a strong blue wave, Jolly and Graham could win.  A few polls months ago did show them with a narrow lead against Donalds. 

More likely, this could be both an echo of the past, and a clue to what may lie down the road.  Based on his agenda, like attacking Obamacare more, I don't see how a Gov. Donalds makes Florida more affordable again.  So it could be the next Guv race in Florida, in 2030, is when centrist Democrats like the Grahams take back power.

I give Donalds credit for this much.  He is, as you state, an opportunist.  I don't think Trump "seized and embraced" Donalds.  I think Donalds seized and embraced Trump.  To be blunt, Sis - and please don't be offended - Donalds is a better cock sucker than even you.  🫢    He is expert at verbally sucking Trump's cock.  That is why he gradually won Trump's favor.

If I were a Black woman, I would feel qualified to say this is wrong.  And it hurts our community.  Again, a lot of young Black men with college degrees who are increasingly conservative would disagree.  At the simplest level, lots of young Black voters say the same old same old Democratic Party just ain't working for them.   Some, like Nixon, are going the Democratic Socialist route.  Others, like Donalds, are going the Republican route.

It's a good debate to have.  It's not news that the Democratic Party of Clinton and Carville, or even the Democratic Party of Obama and Biden, has big problems.

[RockyRoadTravel]

2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said:

So on a personal level, if this guy were my neighbor, I'd say, "Great.  If you are a conservative Black man and that lifestyle and those values work for you, go for it!"  And he definitely is going for it in a way that is historic.  

 

As long as he never ever ran to be on the board of your Home Owners Association and started inflicting his conservative "christian" (not Christian) values on the other people on his block - like red lining the street so no other black families could buy and start creating some inter-generational wealth.  

[Suckrates]

50 minutes ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

As long as he never ever ran to be on the board of your Home Owners Association and started inflicting his conservative "christian" (not Christian) values on the other people on his block - like red lining the street so no other black families could buy and start creating some inter-generational wealth.  

Byron has identity dysmorphia... He believes he is, and lives his life like he is a White Nationalist,  enough of a suck-up to whites to convince them to support HIM....    Are they buying what he is selling?     We will see....   He is an  embarrassment to BLACKS, so he needs the whites to throw rose petals on the road he has chosen to travel.   Licking Trumps shit stained ass is HIS path now, and LYING to his voters !    

[stevenkesslar]

4 hours ago, RockyRoadTravel said:

As long as he never ever ran to be on the board of your Home Owners Association and started inflicting his conservative "christian" (not Christian) values on the other people on his block - like red lining the street so no other black families could buy and start creating some inter-generational wealth.  

I agree with your sentiment, but not your diagnosis about redlining Black families. 

I think the pessimistic view of Donalds is actually much worse.  The problem is not that Donalds would redline Black families to keep them out of the neighborhood.  The problem is he might be the kind of guy who'd give them all subprime mortgages, and blow up the whole fucking neighborhood with foreclosures.  As long as he could get rich and move ahead doing so.   

Which means he's just like lots of rich White people who climbed political or financial ladders doing the same thing.  Chris Dodd, former Democratic Chair of the Senate Banking Committee, was the same kind of guy, in my opinion.  He got special deals from subprime lenders while he ignored what they were doing.  Donalds strikes me as that kind of guy.

His background is financial services and credit.  The demon view of Donalds is he would would love to be the head of Trump Mortgage.  Which would make billions making bad loans that once again, like subprime, drove the global economy off the cliff.  And destroyed millions of American home owners.  Trump is that kind of grifter.  And as my Sister In Cock said, Donalds is an opportunist.  Would he go as far as Trump would?  Too soon to know.

To state that more positively, the thing I like about Donalds is he likes being a "politically incorrect Black man" who thinks if you study hard and work hard you can live the American Dream.  Including the nice home in Naples.  The fact that he does have a nice home in Naples and he is the Republican nominee for Governor suggests he's not wrong about good old fashioned bootstrap capitalism.  In the same way as Obama, he is a symbol of the fact the the US is, at a minimum, not as racist as it used to be.

What Donalds comes closer to, in my view, is the idea that a nation divided by class, not race, is perfectly okay.  Because guys like him and Trump deserve to be on top.  Obamacare is the best example of that.  He has no good idea that he's stated about how you replace that for working class families, Black or White, who are not as successful as him.

It's kind of the same with the Iran War.  He was against the Ukraine War, like Trump was, but for Trump's Iran War.  His logic:  "We blow up all your stuff.  And then we go home."  Like with Trump, it seems like he likes a world run for the rich and powerful, who will just blow shit up when they need to.  Including Iran, and health care subsidies.

To really slaughter the word "redlining," who Donalds would redline is Gay men, and Muslims.  He is the kind of guy who would say Gay men don't deserve the institution of marriage.  The Council on American-Islamic Relations  went after Donald and other Freedom Caucus members saying if they had their way they would "effectively ban the practice of the world's second largest religion in the United States."

Again, I agree with your sentiment.  His values are ones I would call extreme, and intolerant.  He's not the kind of guy that sounds like he'd want a Gay family or Muslim family living next door. 

I'll be interested to see how Jolly goes after him.  And how well it works.