PeterRS

Its a never ending chorus. The same year after year after year and aways the same excuses - drainage problems, blocked klongs and other infrastructure problems. You wonder if the BMA ever send teams out to at least ensure klongs are cleared during the dry season. After the worst flooding in decades in 2011, the Yingluck government promised to take action. Another broken promise!

In its first few years Chakran was a great sauna welcoming lots of younger Thais and other nationalities. Just sitting enjoying a drink in a lounger by the small pool you could watch some lovely guys coming down the steps on the other side en route to the jacuzzi and steam room. Since its merger with the old V Club massage reports indicate the number of westerners at the sauna has dropped dramatically. Seems it is now much more Thai/Asian for Thai/Asian. Any more updates?

Vietnam has already passed a law lifting a ban on gay marriage. Same sex unions are now legally permitted but the government has stalled on the provision of equal rights and legal protection in the case of dispute. Perhaps the taiwan decision may help the government to move further.

I reckon its highly unlikely Hong Kong will enact any such legislation without Beijings tacit approval. And how likely is that as long as gays in China are still subject to official harassment from time to time?

Agree with DThump. Thailand is highly unlikely to follow Taiwan for a long time. Thai society as a whole is just too conservative and the LGBTQ community is way too fragmented. In Taiwan it has been very well organized for many years.

You are now beginning to spout unmitigated gibberish. So Singaporean! LOL

I do think sglad does have a point, in a way. In his postings he certainly illustrates little evidence of Lee Kwan Yew's mantra or even of any Singapore patois, but then Singapore is just part of a huge continent stretching from Turkey to Japan and the far east of Russia. But he does keeps on about his being from Singapore. Fair enough. I could say Im from Omaha or Bangladesh but I would not write about it, let alone boast about it. LOL This Board must have many members who visit Singapore, pass through or are planning such a trip. Im sure they would be very interested in hearing of sglad' views on the gay scene there. The Singapore thread here certainly needs some updating, although sglad himself seems to have made just one recent comment re the quality of spoken English in The Philippines - Other members here post a lot about the gay scene in Thailand and elsewhere. How about a post or two to update members on the gay scene in Singapore? Bars? Saunas? Your experiences or even those of your mates there? What apps work best for older guys looking for younger Singaporeans?maybe an update on goings on at the hugely impressive Gat Dot assembly - coming up next month I think? What do younger Singaporeans gays feel about all the government shenanigans over the old British Colonial Law? Will they eventually rebel? There certainly seems to be an air of rebellion around when chatting to guys like taxi drivers and young professionals. I hear complaints about wages and salaries being reduced. How about the mass immigration that has swelled the population vastly? This too seems to be causing a lot of disquiet in the population at large.

Allegedly? Funny! Lee insisted that Asian values were taught in all Singapore schools. Not sure if Mahatir ensured the same in Malaysia. Surely the Asian perspective/point of view stems directly from that doctrine of Asian Values. Lee was very fond of stressing the essential differences between Asia and he West as he saw them. At least some must bear a direct affect of a447as concern about Asian points of view. Or perhaps as an alleged Singaporean you do not agree.

I'm not a fan of karaoke bars, but enjoy going to the Thai for Thai clubs in Chiang Mai. Ive been alone and with friends and weve always been made welcome. As long as you can speak a little Thai add can put up with over loud music, you can have a blast with some cute guys. Its not for many on this forum if only because of the loud music, but they are certainly worth a visit.

Is it some sort of coincidence that there is also a sugargradpa registered as a member here? You have an annoying bee in your bonnet about a man named Stalker, sglad. It has already appeared in a few of your posts to 2 or 3 posters here. Before you are tempted to use it again, I suggest you re-read in detail the posts in another forum where it is abundantly clear who those stalkers you talk about really are. Fior your information they have two heads! LOL

As a good Singaporean you will surely have been taught all about Asian values as propounded by your PM Lee Kwan Yew and his pal Mahatir Mohammed. As stated in Wikipedia - Values illustrated in your posts.

Agreed - and agreed. But as reader points out, surely there is in fact a difference if someone deliberately posts as a totally different character and then attempts to make other posters believe he is who he definitely is not? The posts then become mere figments of an overripe imagination which others may very well believe. Of course everyone here is basically anonymous. But when readers see information about Asia allegedly from an Asian perspective, they have a right to believe that what is written does come from personal experience. My guess is no posters here have ever stated their exact age, occupation, nationality and ethnicity in any posts, let alone their first ones. Absolutely nothing wrong with that ... unless everything is fake. If that happens to be the case ... and we don't know fr sure ... doesnt it take this forum back into Beachlover territory? This poster was initially warmly welcomed for being young and of Asian descent. Yet it soon became obvious he was a total fake when he started throwing out all manner of insults and issuing a host of reports on imaginary trips. He had surfaced on several Boards. He ended up being banned on all!

Crowne Plaza but definitely not the top floor. Probably taken from a room but Ill suggest the Panorama Lounge at lobby level.

No idea who published the magazine but it is totallly untrue to even suggest Phuket is anything like Bangkok in terms of gay gogo bars. Most of the bars on its list are not gogo bars. Phuket may still have 2 or 3 but compare that with the dozen or more in Bangkok.

From all the reports I have read, condom use is more the exception in the many saunas that have sprung up in Bangkok which cater almost exclusively to young Thais. These are the ones well out of the city centre. If that is any indication of what is happening in other parts of the country amongst young Thai guys, then the concern expressed in that Avert report is justified. Christian may be able to confirm or shoot this suggestion down..

I assume the statistics have to be based on new reported cases.i wonder how many cases go unreported due in part to failure to be tested. I am also not sure how these square with the Averts 2015 statistics which stated that over 28% of msm in Bangkok are HIV+ and that the rate of increase amongst young guys was especially worrying. https://www.avert.org/professionals/hiv-around-world/asia-pacific/thailand

There are dozens of nonpornographic tumblr sites with vast numbers of pics of young Asian guys in various states of undress. Many of those pics found their way on to the Model site here. If you are concerned about your daily cuties having disappeared just check tumblr for a feast!

Thanks samebb.

When you buy in Thailand, how sure are you that what is in those little bottles is the real deal?

They are illegal in Thailand

I also hope it is just temporary. But that soi now caters mostly to visiting Asians who rarely if ever eat or have a drink at Dicks. With the rapidly diminishing number of westerners there have been reports of only two or three tables occupied in the evenings. It would not make commercial sense to keep it open without a big boost in customers.

I heard somewhere that Dicks is owned by the same group that owned the Tarntawan Hotel. When the Tarntawan changed hands it was announced that Dicks would close. If noone has taken it over since then I assume Dicks is now another part of Twilights past that is no more.

I happily agree.

You obviously did not read what you posted. You have also not responded why you posted in this thread in direct contravention of your agreement (your words not mine) with the Board owner and the expressed desire of the former owner of the board. And no report from your Pattaya trip? Im sure others find this all becoming so tedious.

The OP said long time - not short time. 3000 for a whole day rather than just one night is not outrageous for Bangkok IMO. Besides, it was not the OP who made the agreement. But whatever was decided and agreed that is a matter for that customer and that barboy. It is of no business of others. I also believe that how other people decide to spend their evenings maybe after a hard days work is also their business, not ours. Suggesting some other person get a life remains for me a ridiculous suggestion.