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I found that best way to avoid this sorrow of leaving is to run out on money, eases departure process considerably

May be we need to start another thread on the topic as to not to derail this one devoted to pleasures of flesh

No , only boy described in the story was racist. No need for sweeping generalizations, specially about looking down on anyone with different skin color. Every society has plenty of those unfortunately. Xiluzer mentioned clearly that Bombay guy's attitude was not good. So may be this was reason for treatment he received. It would be nice to get insight of certain nation's tipping patterns before we start formulating theory based on moneyboy opinion. Certain nations, rightly or wrongly are more than others known for skipping tipping obligation and this may be reason why they are not treated as they wish and some places are securing girl and boy tips before actual off or massage takes place. Happened to me at Scandic & Copa for massages and Adonis for long time off. no, I'm not man of color but could be taken for national of another place with mixed reputation in Pattaya. Just my 5 cents

Great report and great read from Hero , rickinoc, welcome to the board and hope you'll write more about your LOS exploits when you return home. You did best thing for 4 hands massage - pick up one boy and let him to pick up his companion to ensure boys will work together well.

I think show and eye candy is great so best way is to go there with own boy, enjoy the show and do not worry about duds - what I did in November.

great report bkkmfj, I wonder what I overlooked in terms of ambiance at UNIMAN but certainly I did since two posters mentioned place needs refurbishment. I guess I 'm undemanding slob. If they do renovations one can only hope prices will not go to the SENSO level. Most important thing about the place is that quite a few of us here were vary happy with massages plus there. I agree about your assessmnet of Jupiter show which I consider best of all BKK bars for exactly the same reason you explained. As for boys I tend to second firecat's opinion - great looking but duds so I'm glad you landed somebody you happy with, I 'll give them another try after utter disappointment in May with one of their great lookers. Unless they raised off fee it was 400 in May , in line with other bars across the Suriwong other than Dreamboys. If 15 % of attendance were farangs it's great, on two occasion I was there in May I saw 3-4 farangs plus me , max. This bar clearly caters to Asian market and we farangs need to adopt. As always early bird catches the worm , thank you for reminding us that if we see boy of our dreams at times we need to act fast. And hope it will work out, I already told my story of how dreams can shatter fast. So don't despair you did not see Noom, one more reason to return to Bangkok On another hand I think boys which weren't picked up fast tend to be more pleasurable company and do not rush things like somebody grabbed at 9.00 and hoping to return to bar for chance of another off that night. Waiting for your Chiang Mai stories

That's nice surprise, welcome back ! and Happy New Year in Thailand !

free hookups are definitely possible like explained in excellent firecat's post but if your time there is short you are taking chances that hunt may take too much of your vacation time. You may enjoy it anyways , it depends on personality but you don't want to frustrate yourself completely if not successful so keep moneyboy option open. If you love massages than you are heading to paradise IMHO, options in Bangkok are better and much more numerous but if you in Pattaya few days there's quite a few places you may enjoy as well, forget about culture in Pattaya not just because of sleaze and sex but it's like beach resort everywhere. Treat yourself as prices in Thailand are much more friendly than your domestic ones. And you have option of extras You are not tasting Argentinian culture in Mar del Plata but you go to Buenos aires, if American culture is what you are looking for, New York is your place , not Atlanic City, you know what I mean. For culture stay in Bangkok . River taxi to the Grand Palace is a must, go there early as place is extremely crowded. Visit snake farm - is right across the street from soi Twilight, itself place of lots of friendly snakes in boys undies but this is separate subject. Staying in Silom option is well chosen as you are close to gay action and almost all of that is walk distance. No shortage of decent hotels there. BTS and MRT actually intersect at Silom across from Lumpini Park. Shopping is better in Sukhumvit area but you are not on this forum because of shopping, right

post #38, last guy, great body and smile , thank you. Great report from day 6 I'm glad you had good day at Arena, I agree other places may have better ambiance and better looking boys but I have soft spot for that place. When you mention boy there was raising his hand to bring your attention it kind warmed my heart as this is how I landed in arms of my consolator from there -Dit. Your assessment of X-Boys is matching mine but I'm surprised with goings at Jupiter with boys in street clothes, may be just too cold inside? Hope our exchange of praises for Man from Fun Club will bring him more business - he is truly good guy.

At Hero is actually not as intimidating because this glass wall and no pressure atmosphere. If you shy you may have a drink or meal in their restaurant which has also view of glass enclosure. Senso is place where you are really close to the boys so you my wish to go there after you visited few other places to get more confidence. In Banana you are pretty far from their faces. Best place to ogle available boys is Bangkok Massage in soi Twilight , you can have your drink or meal at Maxi's across the soi with direct view of boys in front of you. And you will not be intimidated because they are usually glued to their smartphones.

few years ago Man was working as A at Senso, his picture is still on their website. He earned raving reviews on boards when working there. When he changed venue he also changed name. He may be slightly over 30 , certainly not 50 ! In flesh actually he looks younger than on his picture - happens often to Thais What a great guy he is ! by his own admission 100 % straight but don't worry , he will treat you well being true professional, will find what you like the most and deliver. His self taught English is very good and he is good conversationalist too. There's another older /26-30 / muscular great guy at FanClub, His name is Chai, has some tatoos

While love from the first sight happens in real life it never happened to me in Thailand, possibly because I was never there long enough. I don't like to waste time on vacations, saunas, discos and bars are not my scene so resorted to paid company. Since variety is spice of life I usually butteflied / i.e. each time picked up different boy from different place /. Recently got more sentimental and started to meet the same boys more than once as no butterfly reinforcement pill is available locally. Chase may be quite pleasant but also time consuming and costly with all those diners , shows, shopping trips etc, but not trying to discourage you at all- some had better luck. Don't plan too much , just show up here , have your eyes open and see what happens . And bring money either for off fees or those trinkets you may wish to treat you newly found love with. And do not be discouraged by some stories about greedy boys, my experience is most of them are happy with what we have for them and at least me personally very rarely I met boys with list of demands. Whatever way you will choose remember they are real people with real feelings, hopefully you will find somebody with those for you. Just try to have fun and make sure your boys have fun with you too. I have my doubts about quality of real feelings from GayRomeo boys , even those who are there for fun , not money but firecat69 from this forum is expert on the subject so wait for his input.

Mine was HIS, in the same building where Arena is now. Closed few years ago As tribute to this day I usually start my BKK explorations from visit to Arena Aqua certainly had it's glory days with restaurant open and two mamasans handling weekend traffic. They were on death bed for a while as their website was not not updated for years, gym and sauna closed few years ago too. In November they had only 6 boys available on Saturday night and it was this feeling of faded glory as I mentioned in my report. Sad day for me too as my first multiple off Pom was from there.

pics are there, I can see them, thank you for all eye candy

According to the post in CFS forum today Dec 28-2013 , Aqua Spa is closed forever. May be somebody in BKK now can confirm ? I'm not that surprised as it was pretty deserted when visited them in November but I have lots of good memories from earlier years.

according to post today, Dec 28 / 2013 on CFS board Aqua Spa is closed forever, For me personally this is sad news -reason in the post above

You treated yourself to a great day at both Guy Spa and Dreamboys / actually scene downstairs is called BoysBangkok, used to be separate bar years ago /. It looks we both are great advocates of Guy Spa on this board but it was you who enticed me to go there. Dreamboys off fee is 650 and drinks are 380 upstairs and 360 downstaris if I recall correctly. Great Christmas we have on this forum with all those fabulous reports you guys are spoiling us with. Only thing I don't get is how come somebody is on vacations in LOS and is waking up at 1 p.m. , don't you think you spend too much of vacation time sleeping? I credit all those massages I was taking for my body's great tolerance for sleep deprivation when there, only once was in bed till noon but this was only because boy volunteered to stay that long so couldn't waste opportunity. But I guess we all are different when comes to sleep pattern

you are there 2 months so definitely you outlast your temporarily winning competitor . As for not offing Tea you are not stupid , if you are not inthe mood for him it's better not to torment boy by exposing him to absent minded farang. There's always tomorrow

Not everybody is entitled to your friend opinion so he can have his way and others can have theirs, no conflict here whatsoever. No, I did not have VIP room at Uniman, but I took my glasses off in order to shower so may be I did not notice something, but definitely noticed how handsome my boy was and rest is just icing on the cake

I have exactly the same feeling like you about going to saunas and I wonder if we are wrong as one never knows for sure until visits a place Thank God you are happy with following my recommendation for Uniman, as for cleanliness either I had good luck or you had bad one as I do not recall any substandard shower in room I was assigned to. Cute guys can sometimes deliver surprisingly strong massage, I think proper training is to be credited for that. Waiting impatiently for more of your 13 days of Christmas, very entertaining and informative report, I like your grading system

May be PTY punters are more inclined toward rather twinky and youngish crowd so is harder for massage boys to get a clients. Pattaya has true gem -Magnolia. I had 4 massages in 2 days when in PTY in Nov and can't complain about neither massage nor boys quality at the massage places. Performance at the hotel by the offed massage boys in another story but definitely I would not dismiss Pattaya as massage wasteland.

He thinks that because in his opinion it;'s stupid to pay for sex if one can have it for free or he is ideologically motivated , just curious. Great day 2, you are certainly on the roll with both your exploration and with posts

Me and an inspiration ? Gee, certainly you made my day, thank you very much ! It would be fun if some other client would be eyeing you for massage when you were inside on that glass enclosure ! Great report from HERO, such a great place . Do not discriminate against older guys in massage places - what they are missing in looks department they make up in services, both massages and extras.

Nice report , it looks we have busy Christmas season on this board enjoyed by both sides- travellers there and readers in far away countries, some of them in grip of winter. Seems Vassa bar has consistently very favorable feedback recently. Good luck with you discoveries in PTY. Quite a few encounters with ' me not gay ' boys in November I found very pleasurable so do not dismiss them entirely, granted , those were a little older boys so not sure those are you prefered proffesionals

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