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yes the largest prison in the area! but i felt safe there we uber’d there and got there at 4:45 so we had to wait 15 minutes for it to open. Safety wasn’t a concern and i have several Brazilian friend that have been going there a long time with no problems

I got here friday and have had a great time! but since i did not bring my laptop, no lengthy reports until i get back, because i am doing this on my cell phone! yesterday(Sunday) we decide to go to Bangu Sauna which takes about an hour to get to! It is only open as a gay sauna on Sundays! It is a large space with large rooms, older Building and a lot of it is open to the outside air so yesterday being cold here in Rio it was not very comfortable. It has a pool outside where the guys swim naked! The guys that go there to work i would describe as “neighborhood guys” 18 - 24 , no bodybuilders or muscle guys, but your average lean to slightly worked out bodies! There were only about 12 there but it was Father’s day in brazil and the weather was crappy! Average pay is $30-40.R they said they never have foreigners there so they told me don’t spoil it! lol My friends told me that a typical sunny Sunday they will have about 30-35 guys there. it opens at 5:99 it has been there for 25 yrs i was told.

or are a long term regular! :-)

shows you how we fooled each other! ....i thought you were independently wealthy!! lol

Today one of the messuers sent me a nude photo and said “let’s meet Friday when you arrive?”. he beat me to it!! i am meeting him Friday afternoon! :-)

i was lucky enough that before i started my own company(2010) i worked for a large multinational company that required i fly 1 to 3 flights a week! which got me exec. plat. status quickly on AA! in the 90’s airlines charged much less if you had a saturday layover vs returning home on Friday! enough so that the company would pick up my hotel and airfare to weekend destinations because they saved $500.+ if i did that rather then fly back to SoCal. on Friday! since our company was on the east coast i either spent the weekend in Miami or NYC!(sometimes Montreal) this was from 1994 to 2010. From 2001 to 2010 i also did Business European trips which introduced me to London’s/Paris’/Barcelona’s scene! Also i discovered Rio in 2001 on a trip with my BF at the time...

You got it! that pretty much been my experience! First, imho, i would never invite someone for a overnight or even a hour at my apt., if i had not met them first at the sauna! e.g. i learned that lesson years ago in Prague when i had found a Czech porn star online and had him come to the hotel based only on what i saw in his films! Big Mistake!! but i digress.... 1) Never make a morning appt., the guys typically get up late morning with lunch being their first meal! so i would plan a 1:00pm lunch date if you want to or just meet at your hotel or apt.

It is based on factors that vary depending on the garoto, the customer, and both parties motivation, how good a negotiator you are, etc. But a afternoon is non productive time for them so pay should not, imho, be over $200.R, about the same if you were ordering in off Netgay! I would not pick a “nice” restaurant unless you really want to go to it! the guys really don’t seem to care whether it is MacDonalds or Sequiera Grill, unless you are offering Fogo de Chao!

the is a video taken last Halloween at the Abbey Bar in West Hollywood! I first went to the abbey when it was a very small coffee house with one pool table and great bakery goods in 1994! then it got enlarged to the space next door then a year or two later it added the space of the Persian rug store across the courtyard and then again another space to become a large complex with 5 bars 3 of which are indoor outdoor areas! looking back i am a little embarrassed that i can say i had sex 3 or 4 times there (years ago like 10!) but it must be old age setting in because i used to drive up from the OC once a week or more to go to Weho and the Abbey and when i was there last week i realized it had been over a year since i had been there! https://youtu.be/j-VgdirCfbk

there have been 4 Venezuelan massagistas working at Pointe over the last year. One worked at Lagoa in SP 2 years ago then moved to Rio last year, one recently moved to Europe(and was probably close to the best sex i have ever had!) To answer your question yes they are open to having sex but i think you have to approach them somewhat differently then you do with a sauna guy! i have had sex with all 4 of them including two at the same time twice!-4 handed massage but we quickly forgot about the massage! :-)

i heard because of the rains today the sauna was not well attended. is that true?

just to be clear, we have 2 separate places being discussed here! i am talking about Bar Fama in São Paulo, SolaceSoul/Caeron are talking about Rio/Copacabana!

i will be there Saturday the 18th so i will give a detailed report!....unless i get sidetracked! lol

Describe “way up”! i am still paying $100.R for sauna encounters as of May so just want you to clarify?

I agree it’s rougher trade but “guys who suck you off don’t have a knife to stab you after..” is a little over the top! it is a bar with security, and you taxi uber to the place and back! no problem!

he looks like a lot of the guys in in the Brazilian saunas! :-)

You are hanging with the wrong group! lol All of my Brazilian friends know it they just never mentioned it to me because they thought i wouldn’t be interested! after i mentioned it to two of them after hearing about it from Mvan they went “oh yeah we will take you tomorrow night!”. one observation, i was there on a Saturday night and there were 3 or 4 guys that looked like sauna guys not “skinny rough trade”, and while i would say most were smoking pot or something else there were a couple of guys that we’re fairly hot guys!

It is a late night (after11:00)kinda sleezy bar in downtown about 3 blocks from the Bourbon hotel. It has dancers on stage, guys hanging around the bathroom doors and a dark room! The time i was there several months ago there were about 12-15 hustlers working. even if you are staying at one of the many hotels near by take a taxi or uber to there and back! R. Frederico Abranches, 29 - Santa Cecília, São Paulo - SP, 01225-001, Brazil! the photo shows it during the day when the roll up doors are down!

I will be in Rio Next Friday August 10th to the following Friday the 17th, then to Porto Alegre for one day and on Saturday the 18th to São Paulo for 4 days! mostly because 1)there is the guy that went to mexico a few months ago with me and i want to see him and 2) i want to check out Bar Fama again as i had a interesting time there the first time! :-) (thanks to Mvan for telling me about Bar Fama)

Paco(as In Paco Raban)had his main home in the Canary islands and came from a Very Wealthy Spanish family. He always had a entourage of 3 bodyguards, a couple of middle age friends, a drag queen or two, always at least 8+ people. He was often at the table next to the group I was with at Corujinhas many times from about 2003 to 2006 or 7. You are right he was at least 400+ lbs. and I remember the restaurant who put 3 of the plastic chairs stacked on top of each other so they support his weight! I never figured out how he got up the stairs at Pointed because the stairway is now wide enough to have a guy on either side of him...he died about 9 years ago. now, I always thought one of his bodyguards was hot. I am not typically attracted to bodybuilder guys but there are always exceptions and after seeing this guy over 2 years I finally got to meet him when "paco" was back in the Canary Islands and this bodyguard stayed in Rio. I can't remember where I ran into him, it was one of the gay clubs probably LeBoy We met up several more times over the next year. He did several films where he was always the top but in his non screen career he was a bttm. Somewhere I have a link to one of his videos with "Diego" who many know and who is a regular at 117

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Speaking for myself only...playing house with Brasilerios! :-)

i pay for most things like meals, my apt in Rio, sauna costs in cash, plus the boys . That way i know how much i am spending every day vs a credit card which for me is harder to keep track of my daily spending

the other thing is Citi let’s me have $2,000. a day. Brandesco was $800.R per day.... i usually go over that...actually not usually i always do! :-)