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The issue for me in getting a guide was the language and safety issues in Brazil. Getting around there with only knowing English is very difficult. Trying to communicate with taxi drivers and such. Inside an American brand Hotel it is easy, outside it is difficult. Safety is a big issue in Brazil and even some of my friends that have been there often and love Rio will usually have a sorted story of crime to tell. From robbery at ATM machines to being drugged with chewing gun to having a knife pulled on them by a young teenager on Copacabana beach to run ins with the notoriously corrupt police. I've also had friends say they will never return to Brazil due to an unfortunate event that has happened to them there. My safety issue is compounded by not knowing where I am at and not being able to communicate to try to get directions, negotiate travel, or be able to talk to a sauna boy. At $100 USD per day, feeling comfortable, having a sense of being safer is well worth it for me. I am scheduled for my 3rd trip to Brazil in late November. I love the country, the culture, and most of the people I have met. But, I still won't chance a trip to Brazil without a guide. I travel to Thailand a couple of times a year and other than a one day tour guide, I've never hired a guide there and don't feel I need one. Getting around with only English is not very hard at all and many menu's and signs are in Thai and English. Safety has also never been an issue for me in Thailand, even though I realize bad things can happen anywhere.

I use to tip a minimum of $50 for a 2 hour session. But since prices have climbed into the $250-$300 range I have slowed my past practice of tipping. I haven't used an Agency for awhile but I always tip them when I do, because I know the Agency is getting a cut. In Thailand I pay my own set rate, that is more than the usual rates, and the boys always seem happy to see me.:+ In the Brazil sauna's I have a rate I pay if they bottom. Then if they wow me, I give them about 1/3 more and they usually have a chance to see me several more times before I leave.

BON, I truly wish I had some advice to give you, but I don't. I have 2 children about the same age as yours and feel very deeply for them as you do your son. I'm had many professionals tell me that an addict must hit the complete bottom before they can move to over come it. I can't imagine seeing my children go thru that and not being able to help. By nature we want to protect them. My thoughts are with you and your son.

Hey welcome westcoaster. Great to see you pop up here.

I definitely don't consider him a role model. Giving your lover an important job he is not qualified for, is nothing to brag about. But I do feel there are many lessions for straights and gays in his story. Being a high profile person and still remaining in the closet and how that affects your actions, judgements, and the lives of others around you.

Any update on what is going on there. The US media doesn't seem to report much. I've got most of my info from the BBC and it does sound good to me. United Airlines has been allowing cancelations on Bangkok flights, with no penalties since the coup. How is the nightlife? Are the bars still open and is there still a curfew?

I sometimes sleep in the nude but mostly wear just a pair if gym shorts. Can't stand wearing anything on my chest and come close to choking myself with a T-shirt if I wear one sleeping.

>Long after i've retired from this industry, i plan on keeping >in touch with as many of my guys as i can. Realistically is >this possible? I guess we'll see when the time comes... Part of the question is...after the money stops and the "sex" stops will you both still really be friends. I quit hiring for about a year because an escort and I became BF's. He also quit escorting. All of the escorts I received e-mails or talked with often and considered friends stopped e-mailing and calling after the money stopped. After I started hiring again I heard from a few again. I asked one why he stopped e-mailing and he said he thought my BF might not like it. I also had an escort that I saw often and considered a valued friend. When he retired he said he would stay in contact and we'd get together for dinner when I was in his area. Shortly there after he stopped replying to my e-mails. When he came out of retirement he sent me an e-mail announcing his return. When I saw him and asked why he hadn't continued what I thought was our friendship, he said he retired due to getting a BF. He felt he was better to cut all ties to the escorting part of his life due to the BF. I was also very much surprised when on numerous occasions my retired escort (ex) BF would tell me what Escorts "really" thought of many of their clients. This included something he had heard about me from a client of his that an escort, that I had thought was a friend, had told said mutual client of them both. I had traveled with this escort and e-mailed or talked with him often. The BF said he is not your friend it is all about the money and he told me to watch and see if the e-mails and calls did not stop. He was right. A good escort will make you think you are great and make you feel like the center of the world, but it goes with the job. If a client really thinks a certain escort his "BEST" friend, he is probably in for a real depressing let down. On the plus side there is one retired escort I'd seen several times that occasionally still keeps in touch. Do I consider him a friend? YES My "BEST" friend or I his? Of course not.

Thanks for the info. I don't understand the "Visa on demand". How is it different than the past when no visa was required? I had planned to visit during the Christmas holidays. Guess I'll put buying any tickets on Hold. :-( This could really hurt their economy I would think.

Well my celebration of turning 50 has come to a close. I think turning 50 is officailly the point that one can say they are getting old. I feel great and young inside but get a reality check each time I look in the mirror. I wanted to do something special for my 50th birthday and (former escort) Bobby Thompson told me I should travel to some place I liked, felt at ease at, and knew I would have a good time, instead of trying to discover an unknown place. So I at first I decided on Thailand but then started looking my my vacation time, work schedule, and with the help of Hotel points decided to really plan a celebration to my 3 favorite places in the world. With Vacation time, work schedule, and the help of Holidays I was able, since the first of July, to spend 10 days in Thailand (Pattaya & Bangkok), 9 Days in Brazil (Rio & Sao Paulo) and end things up with 4 full nights of fun in Montreal all within about 60 days. Plus in the middle of all this my favorite escort, Ethan/Nashville, decided to come out of retirement and I've had the pleasure of seeing him twice now. It has been a fantastic time and I am very thankful I was able to do this at this point in my life. I wish everyone could be able to have such an adventure at least once in their life. With Hotel points most of my hotel stays were free and I had a few airline discount coupons, from their previous flubups, to take some of the sting off of the airfares. The most expensive part of the adventure was actually the time spent with the boys at the Montreal strip clubs. Brazil and Thai boy time was very cheap when compared to Montreal. A special thanks to Danilo for his help in making my Brazil trip such a success. Well I got back home to a invitation from AARP in the mail ;( but after this trip I still feel young (now if I can just stay away from mirrors) I am reminded this day of my favorite saying: Happiness is a journey...not a destination. And what a great journey it has been. Well it is now back to reality, but what memories. :+

> I am so jealous! And I am so out of vacation time. x(

>> Why else have there been no other >>posts today? > > >Well I am currently NOT in Montreal, so I have nothing to say! > Well I'm getting ready to go to Montreal tomorrow, so that is my excuse.

>A terrible situation. My heart goes to the families of the >victims. > ... why were these people in KY watching? I really >agree with them too. TV would be the last thing on my mind if >I was more directly affected. If we lived in a perfect world >the victims would still be with us. The local ABC, NBC & CBS affilliates in Lexington and other parts of Ky carried NON Stop coverage of the crash all day. Then the NBC station switched from the plane crash coverage to the Emmy's with an opening panning a plane crash. You figure it out! .

It is a very sad time here in KY after the plane crash yesterday. Most of the passengers were from Central Ky and today I learned I knew a few of them, not close just had met them a time or two. It is times like this you realize what a small close knit community this state is. The passangers died a horrible death by burning alive, many had made it from their seats when fire engulfed the plane. The opening of the Emmy's was considered distasteful and it is widely felt that if the plane crash had occurred out West or in California they would have edited the opening. A sad day for Ky and a tasteless day for Hollywood.

>Name me as executor. I will see to your wishes personally. }( ROTFL, I'm supposed to make my will here in a few days...I'll keep you in mind ;-)

Well there goes my plans for a Chinese funeral. x( Guess I'll just settle for cremation and having my ashes split between Montreal, Pattaya, Bangkok, And Rio.

>Saying that children are born to liberal or conservative >parents is like the nature vs. nurture argument about being >gay. Part of the study told that children, at least initially, are influenced by the voting preferences of their parents. I was hoping the study would pop up on another news source's website since I was listening while trying to get ready for work. I found the whole concept of Liberal vs Conservative birthrates done in a study interesting. Wonder if a Federal Grant paid for the study.

I was listening to Good Morning America as I got dressed this morning and they had an interesting story about the birthrates of Liberals vs Conservatives. Since children have a tendency to vote as their parents they were talking about the future effects upon Democrats and Republicans. There was a study done they shows Liberals have 147 kids per 100 people vs 208 kids per 100 Conservatives. Not sure who did the study but it looks like there will be more conservative Republicans in our future 15-20 years from now. They did note that Liberals tendency to include gays and support abortion rights as a few of the reasons.

I've made it to Lagoa Sauna the past 2 nights. Last night had a good time again with Fabio. Then spent most of the rest of the evening striking out with guys that said they would not bottom or suck. When we were getting close to leaving, a cute sauna boy wearing a white ballcap approached Danilo and wanted to know what I thought of him. I had noticed him before and he had very nice lips, decent (not muscled) chest. He and I talked abit through Danilo and I decided to take him upstairs. WOW did this guy know how to have sex, wonderful kisser, excellent at sucking and fantastic bottom. He came on my chest while I fucked him and he kept on riding my cock. Then he pulled off to wipe the cum off his cock, got on all fours and wanted me to fuck him from behind. As I did he got hard again and came a second time. He never asked for more than our agreed price but I gave him more. He was to see me again at the sauna tonight but he never showed up. Tonight Lagoa had a big Birthday Party and was letting the sauna boys in for free. We got there early and the place was packed by 7pm. When we first got there a big muscled guy approached me. He had the broadest shoulders, muscled chest, 6 pack and awesome V shaped upper body tapering to a narrow waist and bubbled ass. Short story...very HOT guy. I had noticed him the other nights but figured him to be straight and limited in what he would do, WRONG. I was by myself when he approached me and he asked me if Activo or Passivo? When I said Activo he smiled and said he was Activo and Passivo. I found Danilo and had him to talk with the guy for me and set things up. Great passionate kisser, good with oral and an awesome bottom. After fucking for awhile in one position he would have me change and fuck him another way, very hot. When I came down stairs there stood Fabio. I told him I had to rest but about 1 1/2 hour later Fabio and I were back upstairs just continuing were we had left off the previous night. At this point the place was packed for the show and party and it was hard to move around. I noted another guy that I found cute but lost track of him in the crowd. About an hour later I saw him again but had trouble getting his attention. Finally he spoke and I had Danilo talk to him. Upstairs he was one of the best senuous kissers and he could deep throat the entire length of my cock. He wasn't getting hard until I entered him then he got hard as a rock. He ended up being one of the best bottoms I've ever been with and we fucked for well over 30 minutes. After I came he wanted to cuddle and kiss for a good while. This guy is defintely boyfriend material. So we ended up at Lagoa for about 7 hours and I had a fantastic time with 3 great guys. My broad shouldered stud wanted my e-mail to send me pictures of himself. He also plans to be at the sauna early tomorrow so I can see him before I leave for the airport. Well my flight home is tomorrow night but hopefully will be able to spend about 3 hours at the sauna before I have to head to the airport. On the non-sexual part of the trip, Danilo has shown me much of the city, 2 museums, an old train station, we've gone biking (Danilo roller blading) in a park , been to nice restaurants and he even invited me along to a late night party of some of his friends last night. Many there could speak english and I had a great time with them. One Brazilian guy at the party gave me his e-mail address and wants to stay in touch. It has been a great trip.

Yesterday was a travel day between Rio and Sao Paulo but I still made it to Lagona for a bit last night. The Sauna is really cool with a very good layout and many places to camp out to see what boys are there. Bad part is it is much more expensive than the Rio sauna's. Even though I find many of the guys attractive as a group they are not as friendly or attractive as the Rio guys. The guy I took last night did not bottom, which I knew when I agreed to take him, but then he would only suck with a condom when we got upstairs. Nice muscled body and good kisser though. Not repeat potential. Tonight the first guy I spent time with was a good kisser, good with oral and he bottomed. He said something while I fucked him (I had no idea what and just shrugged) and then he came across my chest while I was fucking him. When we got down stairs, as I went to get his money he told Danilo that I agreed to pay him R$150, instead of the original R$70, since he came. WRONG, this is the first time this has happened to me and the guy was obviously trying to rip me off. He told Danilo he could not work the rest of the night since he had cum. (He was walking around with his HARD cock out of his shorts an hour later). I told Danilo I had told him nothing and had no idea what he had even said. Danilo told him that he knows I do not understand anything he said and that I would not pay. I ended up giving him R$100. What the guy doesn't understand is I will be there 4 nights and he has lost potentially more money from me on other days. In Rio a few guys have asked me "Milk?" and point to themselves, a few have said R$100 after saying milk and I could agree or not. This guy wasn't like them at all. I saw a second guy named Fabio (there must be at least 10 Fabio's in this place), slim, tall, and toned. Danilo negotiated and told him I would treat him good if I had a good time and if he didn't try some crap like the other guy. This guy was great. He was all about me and started sucking me before I could drop my towel. Great kisser, seemed to love sucking me for a long time, good bottom and he came while I fucked him. He was content with what was negotiated but I did give him a little extra. He asked if I'll be there tomorrow and I'll probably hookup with him again. (BTW, less than an hour later he had another client taking him upstairs). Made it to the great Italian Restaurant recommended by Danilo tonight, great food, atmosphere, and I was surprised at reasonable price. I'll write more when I get a chance and give a few more details about my stay in Rio for those that have asked.

>Wonderful post. I am living life now on your adventures. >Thank you for sharing! Can you give a bit more detail when >you have time? Ahh, time, something that seems in short supply when one is enjoying themselves. I'll try. >Enjoy Sao Paulo. Have Danilo take you to the Italian place he >took me to last time I was there. It was wonderful! Danilo says hello and that he misses you. Funny you ask about the Italian Restaurant. Danilo had already planned that we have dinner there tonight. I have been with him enough that he knows many of my habits including eating habits. We go to a restaurant and he immediately ask them for Coca-Cola (not Pepsi) , LOTS of ice and poured slowly. In the sauna's I see someone I like, he talks to them and even knows my price limits for certain activites. I don't have to say a thing except yes or no. (Of course the sauna guys wouldn't hardly know a word I was saying anyway) >Can't wait to hear more! When I have the time my friend ;-) Got to get going, Danilo is showing me parts of Sao Paulo today and then to the Sauna...EARLY (and late I expect }( )

Well I have made it to Sao Paulo after 4 days in Rio. Had a great time in Rio, miss it already. It was so cool to walk into Club 117 Sauna and have people (sauna boys) know me by name and greet me with a kiss, plus a few other things. :+ Club 117 is definitely my favorite place and I have grown comfortable there. Danilo is serving as my guide and interpreter again and my last night in Rio I wanted to try to arrange a mini orgy. So I picked 3 sauna guys at 117 and Danilo talked to them for me. It was a blast (in more ways than one) but, I've learned it is very hard to concentrate on 3 well endowed toned Brazilian studs at one time. They were all about servicing me and did not want to do too much with each other. The biggest surprise was when I suddenly felt one of the muscled studs start rimming my ass in front of the other guys. All 3 shot big loads on my chest, as I had asked Danilo to make part of the deal for them to go upstairs with me. When we got out of the room I saw a guy I had been with before and had really wanted him to join us, but he had gotten to the sauna late. So a bit later I had the guy that liked to rim join us for a 3 way. Due to free cabana night there was a wait for a room. During the wait, I had several boys that wanted to be the third and one even asked Danilo to tell me he wanted to be #3. But 3 guys were too many so just the 2 guys did just fine. And Mr rimmer shot a second big load after rimming me again without prompting. I did make it to Point 202 twice and hired one of the most gorgeous men I have ever seen in my life. Even though we both were tops we had a great time. I actually hired him when I first got there and then again before I left that night. The second time he wanted to "milk" (cum), awesome to see this beautiful guy straddling my chest as he moans and shots across my chest. I do not like 202 as well as 117 for several reasons. The rooms are not as nice and I like the variety of guys at 117 better. Also both nights when I was set to pay at 202 my bill was wrong. That is another good thing about having a guide like Danilo. One night I had food added to my bill when we had eaten nothing. The 2nd night I had alcohol added to my bill and I do not drink alcohol and Danilo does not either when he is with me. Danilo had to argue but got the bill corrected and the second time the guy angrily went to the bartender and he confirmed we did not drink. Then the guy at the desk got upset with Danilo because he told me they had messed up. That is part of Danilo's job to look out for me. He is well worth what he charges Well I'm in Sao Paulo for 4 nights, my first trip hear. It will be hard for my visit here to live up to My Rio adventures.

>Scott has a role to play at M4M. He said that the majority of >his work came from there. His livelihood depends on it. I >can’t fault him for trying to do everything in his power to >get the source of cash flow back into his pockets. Gucci and >Prada are expensive. And, lord only knows how much those >hairdressers in WeHo are. But SA has constantly told us how he doesn't escort for the money, he doesn't need it. For him it is fun, something to do, a Hobby.

>Maybe I'll talk to him about those feelings when I meet him >this weekend. Find out if he Sucks as well as he Sucks up on the other site and let us know.;-)

I've been shopping for a few weeks for a ticket back to Thailand around the Christmas Holidays. My ticket to Bangkok for Christmas last year was just over $1000. My trip in July was $1200. The same flight is now over $1650 and actually jumped over $1700 for a couple of days this week. I use to Fly to Montreal for about $300, now it is over $500. It is getting awfully hard to find a bargain flight anymore and I fear trips to my favorite spots may start to get fewer with these prices. x(