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You might consider contacting the ACLU. They should have the lastest info on similar situations and what is being done, if anything, to challange computer searches.

Jesse, It seems to me you realize the real spirit of Thanksgiving. Thanks for sharing for I believe we all have much to be thankful for. As many know I have 2 kids that are now grown. When one was a toddler he got cancer. We did not think he would live and then all the chemo and radiation. Today he is in his 20's and he now has a son, my first grandchild. I always reflect on this each Thanksgiving and whenever things do not go my way. It seems to humble me abit and to be very thankful.

Same to you and all that pass this way. Thanksgiving has always been a day for me to reflect and be thankful that things are as well with me as they are. Indeed Happy Thanksgiving.

OK you got me. What are you referring to or talking about? I don't see anyone saying he is a sissy.... so what, where did I miss? Signed dumbfounded in KY

>Lucky, I have not had a party for that many in months. The >holidays season is coming and I just finished a movie about >Martha Stewart. She gave me some amazing ideas. Perhaps I'll >have a big party and if so, just wait till you see how many >sign up. If it is in Pattaya for New Year's I'll be more than glad to attend and report back to Lucky and the group here in the forum. I'm always happy to add something for Lucky to drool over.

Looks like I need to coordinate my Brazil trips with you guys. I'll be in Sao Paulo for Thanksgiving. Hope you are enjoying your return to Rio.

This story also made USA Today. The Las Vegas police also used Craig's list, from what I understand, to bust escorts lately. An escort commented to me last week that with the recent escort outings he was afraid it was raising too much attention to internet escorts, making them a target. I'm afraid internet escorting is no longer flying under the radar, instead it looks like the internet is going to turn into a tool for police.

>Now that Pandora's box of outting has been opened, I expect to >see much more useless outting of innocent people who are being >leveraged by those of different political opinions than >theirs. It wil probably be the right doing it far more than >the left. I'm wondering when some Escort will out a NFL or other pro athlete because they think they are being a hypocrite by staying in the closet and hurting the cause for all gay athletes. >The outting of another person because his beliefs are >different than yours is not civil disobedience. That's petty >retribution. And as the snowball starts rolling, will will it stop?

>Your point about the escort's scant credibility: you mean >compared to Haggard's? The money the escort earned did not >come from a criminal activity, unless you consider Haggard a >criminal for preaching vicious unChristian lies to docile >simpletons. Actually getting money for selling drugs to Haggard is criminal activity and probably what the escort needs to be concerned most about. >I'm intrigued by your threat of "retribition from the >other side". Do you mean that some preacher may out an >escort for being churchgoing? Luckily for most escort and those of us that hire, Internet Male Escorts have been under most radar screens. Unfortunately raising the awareness of internet Male Escorts to the level of the lead story on the evening news will probably make it lot easier for "the other side" to get the authorities to start targeting these guys. Other than Vegas, were the police apparently use Criag's list to bust escorts, I don't know of authorities actively seeking out internet escorts from Rentboy, men4rent, this or other Escort websites.

>Good for Mexico! }( When will we see this in the United >States? x( You already see it in the United States, it just depends on what part of the USA you are in, same as Mexico. When will we see it nationwide in the USA. Not in my lifetime unless the Supreme Court steps in, which seems very unlikely anytime soon.

Good to see your having a good time. Thanks for the report and stay safe.

That was so cool, thanks for sharing. I especially liked how all the kids sang the "two fathers" part of the chorus.

A few months ago an Escort outed an American Idol star and bleed it for his 15 minutes of fame and a start in the porn industry. Another escort just outs an evangelical minister because the client opposes gay marriage and he thinks the guy is a hypocrite. I'm aware of the BN thing a year or so ago but think that was an isolated case. But is a new trend starting in outing clients? Do you think that all the talk of male escorts in the news is going to make a few law enforcement agencies decide to start targeting our internet escort friends? Is your info on their computer... do you care... does it matter? With the recent client outings are you starting to think twice about hiring or being more discreet in what info you give out about yourself?

>A word to the wise: On Tuesday, all 8800 members here will be >posting, so it is important that the five regular posters get >their remarks in early so as to avoid the wait. The only reason I am posting here on Election Day is to try and make Lucky happy. So I posted and now I'm off to VOTE. Next.....

You make some very interesting points on the subject. As for the outing of clients, I think you will have many clients thinking twice about hiring. I think a trend is starting because the media are going to jump all over some of these and giving these guys their 15 minutes of fame. The guy even gets put on the Today show and was the lead in story last week on ABC news. Law Enforcement is now looking at him. Wonder if he will laugh if he is charged with selling drugs? Wonder if his other client's info are on his computer when they raid and search his house? You have the American Idol star and now an evangilical preacher. Who is next?

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>The solution for these high profile people such as actors or >preachers is to come out of the closet. Then they wouldn't >have to worry about exposure. I don't think it would solve anything. I know of at least one openly gay entertainer that hired at every stop on his US tour. I was told by more than one Escort that his people used the old Hooboy site and many of my reviews to decide who to hire for him. But he doesn't want anyone to know he hires Escorts. Also was told the very same thing about a certain perceived str8 entertainer that also used Hooboy and my reviews and he didn't want anyone to know either. I've had one Hollywood Escort to have loose lips with me about some of his clients and it would really turn Hollywood on it's head if the Hollywood Escorts started spilling all the beans on their clients. >The closet is also a hiding >ground for hypocrites and gay homophobes who love to damage us >as a way of justifying their own sins. True, but many GAY people when they hire an escort they also expect that their privacy to be protected for whatever the reason is.

This was actually the lead story on ABC's evening news. Unbelievable with all that is happening in the world. I can sympathize with the thought that the hyprocrite is getting his do and that outing him is justified. But does the ends really justify the means? How many high profile outings by Escorts does it take until clients start to not be willing to risk their privacy? I think any high profile person, be it an actor, enteratiner, judge, clergy, politician or other person may want to start thinking twice before hiring if privacy is important to them.

>I still wish we would have found a way to introduce >ourselves. You really need to work on those 'come hither' >eyes KY Hey, it looked to me that your companion was getting your attention so that was a good thing. Plus I still have my southern manners even though they are hard to find in this day and age. > >Remembering back, that was some pretty good thai food that >night too... Is that place still around? Walked past it a few days ago, didn't go in, it was still there. Maybe you should let me know when you are going to be back in Chicago some time. Maybe I might get back that way too and do more than watch you sitting at the bar waiting for a table. ;-)

Leo who? ;-)

>Of the client posters on here, who would you most like to >meet? I develop a curiosity of those escorts that post here and at the other site. So even though I have mixed feelings about them I would really like to meet Scott Adler and Benjamin Nicholas. I like meaty nipples on a guy and Scott's seem pretty hot from his pics, even though I understand he doesn't want anyone to touch or play with them. Benj never did seem to really be my type even though I have a wide variety in man taste. But then I happen to see him at a Resturant in Chicago once. Didn't speak to him, he had a companion, but he confirmed when I e-mailed that it was him. He is taller and actually more attractive in person than in his pictures. I must also say that you and Johnny, who post here sometimes, have also peaked my interest, also.

I frequently get requests for recommendations. But most times people are asking about someone to travel with or spend multiple days with. I mostly hire for 2 hour perods and the few escorts I've traveled with or done overnights with have since retired. Therefore I fear I'm not much help for them. With the huge investment one must make for an overnight or trip, it is understandable that one would want as much info as they can get before taking the risk.

> What is hapening? Are guys hiring less? >Are guys just NOT writing reviews? Maybe taking a look at the comments in a thread here about Kyle Foxxx adds a few clues. The guy has been escorting for some time now, has been to LA Hooville dinners and even been with another poster but the kid has NO reviews here or the other site. Well not until I wrote a No Show review on the kid. If the regulars that post, frequent these sites, and attend Hooville dinners don't write reviews, one wonders who will?

I continue to post reviews on both sites but review more guys here. If I met the guy threw the other site then I'll usually also review them there or if I think it is info that could be helpful or even help the guys business. I think part of the problem with the other site is the fact that it takes so long for your review to be posted, up to 6 weeks some times. In the escort business 6 weeks can change alot of things. It takes alot of effort for me to submit a review, time writing it, proofing it, etc... then to see it just lag there is a problem for me. From my experience my reviews get up faster here and I also get information or explanation from TY if there seems to be a question or problem with any info I also agree with Mark's comments that I may summarize as the other site is not customer friendly and that has driven some people that made great contributions to Hooboy's efforts leave. I have also slowed abit in my hiring, instead saving my $ for trips to Brazil and Thailand. I think that the rate issue may have an effect but I wonder maybe more so on embarrassment to admit that one paid $300 -$350 for 1 hour with a guy. Might also be a reason that some reviews seem to skip or not be specific with the rate question. As long as guys are horny there will always be customers.

I have always prided myself in that when it comes to men I like variety. From twinks to fratboys to muscled jocks. But, after thinking about my favorite guys I'd agree there is much to be said for the experienced guys. My 3 favorites right now are all in their 30's Ethan/Nashville http://www.maleescortreview.com/index.php?...er_id=106060603 Seven/Nashville http://www.maleescortreview.com/index.php?...er_id=106081146, and Michael Vincenzo/Orlando http://www.maleescortreview.com/index.php?...er_id=106010089 Add to that list Aaron Mark,who is in his mid 20's http://www.maleescortreview.com/index.php?...er_id=106010221 from my standpoint you just can't get much better than those guys.