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Could work...

Maybe that closes the loop back to Brian Williams' fate... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gEWEOO_a73Y Fun reminiscence... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_hhnX_vDL4o

Take that, Roy Moore!

A meet & fitting order of precedence.

Target pharmacy also has very good prices on some Rx's, tho not all. Weird -- no one chain seems to have best prices overall. Appears to depend on specific chains cutting deals for specific drugs. E.g., my statin is about $40 for 30 pills most everywhere except for Rite Aid where the price is $9.99.

Dowd's precise point.

Hmm. Harper Lee Lawyer Offers More Details on Discovery of New Book http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/09/books/harper-lee-lawyer-offers-more-details-on-discovery-of-go-set-a-watchman.html

Dowd is pretty harsh. And accurate. Anchors Aweigh Maureen Dowd WASHINGTON -- THIS was a bomb that had been ticking for a while. NBC executives were warned a year ago that Brian Williams was constantly inflating his biography. They were flummoxed over why the leading network anchor felt that he needed Hemingwayesque, bullets-whizzing-by flourishes to puff himself up, sometimes to the point where it was a joke in the news division. But the caustic media big shots who once roamed the land were gone, and there was no one around to pull his chain when he got too over-the-top, as one NBC News reporter put it. It seemed pathological because Williams already had the premier job, so why engage in résumé inflation? And you dont get those jobs because of your derring-do. When Williams was declared the hair apparent to Tom Brokaw in 1995, hailed by Jay Leno as NBCs stud muffin, I did a column wondering why TV news programs only hired pretty white male clones. I asked Williams if he was an anchor android. Not that Im aware of, he said gamely, in his anchor-desk baritone. I can deny the existence of a factory in the American Midwest that puts out people like me. Williams told friends last week that he felt anguished, coming under fire for his false story of coming under fire. Although the NBC anchor had repeated the Iraq war tall tale, ever more baroquely, for more than a decade, when he cited it on his Jan. 30 broadcast during a segment about going to a Rangers game with a retired, decorated soldier who had been on the ground that day when he landed, Williams got smacked down on Facebook. A crew member from a Chinook flying ahead of Williams, who was involved in the 2003 firefight, posted, Sorry dude, I dont remember you being on my aircraft. I do remember you walking up about an hour after we had landed to ask me what had happened. Stars and Stripes ran with it, and, by Saturday, Williams announced that he was stepping down for several days. Social media the genre that helped make the TV evening news irrelevant by showing us that we dont need someone to tell us every night what happened that day was gutting the institution further. Although Williamss determination to wrap himself in others valor is indefensible, it seems almost redundant to gnaw on his bones, given the fact that the Internet has already taken down a much larger target: the long-ingrained automatic impulse to turn on the TV when news happens. Although there was much chatter about the revered anchor and the moral authority of the networks, does anyone really feel that way anymore? Frothy morning shows long ago became the more important anchoring real estate, garnering more revenue and subsidizing the news division. One anchor exerted moral authority once and that was Walter Cronkite, because he risked his career to go on TV and tell the truth about the fact that we were losing the Vietnam War. But TV news now is rife with cat, dog and baby videos, weather stories and narcissism. And even that fare caused trouble for Williams when he reported on a video of a pig saving a baby goat, admitting we have no way of knowing if its real, and then later had to explain that it wasnt. The nightly news anchors are not figures of authority. Theyre part of the entertainment, branding and cross-promotion business. Former ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer trended on Facebook for reportedly scoring the first interview about Bruce Jenners gender odyssey. When current ABC News anchor David Muir was still a correspondent, some NBC News reporters had a drinking game about how many times he put himself in the shot and how many times his shirt was unbuttoned. As the late-night comic anchors got more pointed and edgy with the news, the real anchors mimicked YouTube. Williams did a piece on his daughter Allisons casting in an NBC production of Peter Pan. And Muir aired an Access Hollywood-style segment with Bradley Cooper. As the performers Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, John Oliver and Bill Maher were doing more serious stuff, the supposedly serious guys were doing more performing. The anchors pack their Hermès ties and tight T-shirts and fly off to hot spots for the performance aspect, because the exotic and dangerous backdrops confer the romance of Hemingway covering the Spanish Civil War. Oliver, who has made waves with pieces on financial chicanery in the Miss America contest and the corporate players trying to undermine net neutrality, told The Verge that he is hiring more researchers with backgrounds in investigative journalism. Meanwhile, in an interview with Fusion, Muir acted out the facial expressions he uses during his broadcast: the listening face, the really listening face, and the really concerned face. All that was missing was Blue Steel. With no pushback from the brass at NBC, Williams has spent years fervently courting celebrity, as The Hollywood Reporter put it, guest starring on 30 Rock, slow-jamming the news with Jimmy Fallon and regaling David Letterman with his faux heroics: Two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire, including the one I was in, RPG and AK-47. As his profession shrinks and softens, Williams felt compelled to try to steal the kind of glory that can only be earned the hard way. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-anchors-aweigh.html?_r=0&referrer=

I forgot to denominate any choices in Green Stamps!

Agree with all that. My total expenses are about in line with jgoo's -- the incidentals tend to run half to two-thirds of what the escort's fee is. Higher depending on class of accommodation, last-minute airfare costs, etc. Typically bringing them on a trip somewhere for a hotel-based visit. Has always been inside the U.S. for me, so not quite as high a ratio as international travel. I set the poll to ask for fee-for-time as the most constant baseline, exactly because the expenses on top of that can vary so widely depending on one's mode of hiring.

Thinnin on it, I just edited the poll to be explicitly about fees paid to the escort. If people want to comment on incidental expenses, that would be good to know too.

I was just about to say fees only, but what do people think? Should it be the larger number that includes the expenses we incur because of being with the escort? That might be the more meaningful number...?

The topic of skinflint clients, raised in another thread today, got me curious. Thus this poll. Your vote in this poll is private. No one can see how any individual voted. If you want to disclose how you voted, or in any other way exercise your First Amendment rights, feel free to do so in a post.

A sunny welcome to you too! (1) Resentment at being gouged by Big Pharma has nothing to do with how one may treat one's escorts. (2) Not all of us get as much for free as Suckrates does. (3) Not everyone here who has spent the budget of a medium-size Central American country on escorts in a year is necessarily going to brag about it.

The New York Post is what it is, but makes some good points: http://nypost.com/2015/02/08/we-shouldnt-believe-williams-lie-was-an-innocent-mistake/

Just Donatella nobody! "That face -- it looks like something you'd hang off your door in Africa!" Joan Rivers

Transcript of Dylan's speech: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-grammys-2015-transcript-of-bob-dylans-musicares-person-of-year-speech-20150207-story.html#page=1

So. What's the most you've ever paid for one?

Hunter S. Thompson Remembers Jimmy Carter’s Captivating Bob Dylan Speech (1974) Forty years ago, Hunter S. Thompson wrote Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail ’72, which “is still considered a kind of bible of political reporting,” says Matt Taibbi in a new edition of the book. Fear and Loathing ’72 entered the canon of American political writing for many reasons. But if you’re looking for one bottom-line explanation, it probably comes down to this: Says Taibbi, “Thompson stared right into the flaming-hot sun of shameless lies and cynical horseshit that is our politics, and he described exactly what he saw—probably at serious cost to his own mental health, but the benefit to us was [his legendary book].” Thompson may have reached some journalistic apogee with his coverage of the ’72 Nixon-McGovern campaign. But his political writing hardly stopped there. The Gonzo journalist covered the ’76 election for Rolling Stone Magazine. And inevitably he crossed paths with Jimmy Carter, the eventual winner of the election. Above, Thompson recalls the day when Carter first made an impression upon him. It happened at the University of Georgia School of Law on May 4, 1974. Speaking before a gathering of alumni lawyers, Carter upset their celebratory occasion when he dismantled the criminal justice system they were so proud of. And Carter particularly caught Thompson’s attention when he traced his sense of social justice back to a song written by Bob Dylan: The other source of my understanding about what’s right and wrong in this society is from a friend of mine, a poet named Bob Dylan. After listening to his records about “The Ballad of Hattie Carol” and “Like a Rolling Stone” and “The Times, They Are a-Changing,” I’ve learned to appreciate the dynamism of change in a modern society. I grew up as a landowner’s son. But I don’t think I ever realized the proper interrelationship between the landowner and those who worked on a farm until I heard Dylan’s record, “I Ain’t Gonna Work on Maggie’s Farm No More.” So I come here speaking to you today about your subject with a base for my information founded on Reinhold Niebuhr and Bob Dylan. You can read the full text of Carter’s speech here. It’s also worth watching a related clip below, where Thompson elaborates on Carter, his famous speech and his alleged mean streak that put him on the same plain as Muhammad Ali and Sonny Barger (the godfather of The Hells Angels). http://www.openculture.com/2012/07/hunter_s_thompson_remembers_jimmy_carters_captivating_bob_dylan_speech_1974.html

Bob Dylan Dazzles MusiCares Gala With Bold Speech By Phil Gallo, Los Angeles Billboard | February 07, 2015 12:30 PM EST Bob Dylan speaks onstage during the 2015 MusiCares Person of The Year honoring him held at Los Angeles Convention Center on February 6, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. It was a well-known fact that Bob Dylan was not going to perform at the MusiCares event honoring him for, in President Jimmy Carter's words, a "lifetime dedication to human rights." Still, no one expected him to give one of the greatest acceptance speeches in the 25 years of the event. It almost didn't matter that Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen and John Mellencamp sang some of the best songs written in the 20th century or that a humbled former president was on hand to present the award. For nearly 40 minutes, Dylan "performed" in a way few have ever seen, reading a speech written in short declarative sentences akin to those in his autobiography, Chronicles. It was filled with wit and criticism, honest assessments of his artistry and stinging jabs at his critics. He also got in a few good words about the rockabilly pioneer and his friend Billy Lee Riley, the singer behind "Red Hot" and "Flyin' Saucers Rock 'n' Roll" who utilized MusiCares in the years prior to his death in 2009. Dylan, who often shies away from speaking during his concerts, took the stage at the Los Angeles Convention Center late Friday night after President Carter introduced him with praise that his words "are more precise... and permanent than anything said by a president of the United States." Onstage, Dylan was in the mood to pay homage. "Right from the start, my songs were divisive," he said, going on to name those who supported him early on: the songwriter Doc Pomus, label owner Sam Philips, Buck Owens and Kris Kristofferson. He also mentioned those who'd been in the opposite corner: Ahmet Ertegun, Leiber and Stoller, Merle Haggard and "the critics" who fault his singing style but, according to Dylan, give a pass to Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed and Dr. John. For the most part, Dylan was full of gratitude. He started by saluting the man who signed him to Columbia Records, John Hammond, and his first representatives in publishing, Lou Levy and Artie Mogull. He also expressed appreciation for the artists who have covered his songs, starting with the popular – Peter, Paul & Mary; the Turtles; the Byrds and Sonny and Cher – and moving to the iconoclasts who he greatly admired, including Nina Simone, the Staple Singers, Jimi Hendrix, Johnny Cash and Joan Baez. "The Staple Singers were one of my favorite groups of all time," he said. "They were the type of artists I wanted to record my songs. Nina Simone was an unchanging artist who validated, for me, everything I was working toward. Hendrix took small songs of mine into the stratosphere." Dylan traced the roots of some of his better-known songs to numerous traditional folk songs, noting that his work blossomed from his spending so much time playing the traditional works. "John Henry" begat "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall." Big Bill Broonzy's "Key to the Highway" led to "Highway 61 Revisited." "Roll the Cotton Down" birthed "Maggie's Farm." "The Times They Are A Changin'" is an extension of what Dylan referred as the "come all ye" songs such as "Floyd Collins." From "Deep Elm Blues," a traditional song recorded by blues artists in the 1930s, sprang "Tangled Up in Blue." "There's nothing secret about it," Dylan said. Mostly, Dylan wanted to make a singular point about music and great songwriting, whether he was referencing the work of gospel legends the Blackwood Brothers, folk legend Roscoe Holcomb or bluesman Charley Patton. "Voices are not to measured by how pretty they are," Dylan said, quoting Sam Cooke. "They're to be measured by whether they're telling the truth." Then Dylan passed the torch to Beck, Sheryl Crow, Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne, whom he had recruited to interpret specifically chosen songs. A dozen of the performers had a head start, having already released versions of the song they performed on Friday night. Two of the covers, Willie Nelson's "Senor" and John Doe's "Press On," appeared in the film I'm Not There; the White Stripes covered "One More Cup of Coffee" on their debut album; Crosby, Stills & Nash performed "Girl From North Country" on their 2012 tour and Young played "Blowin' in the Wind" regularly on tours in 1991 and 2014. With a house band led by bassist-producer Don Was that included pedal steel player Greg Leisz, guitarist Buddy Miller, keyboardist Benmont Tench and drummer Kenny Aronoff, the night was packed with stellar, well-rehearsed performances. Stephen Stills was ably supported by the glowing harmonies of Graham Nash and David Crosby on "Girl From North Country," and Sheryl Crow delivered a touching reading of "Boots of Spanish Leather" from a secondary stage in the middle of the convention center. Springsteen, joined by Tom Morello, enhanced "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" with striking guitar solos. Tom Jones, Aaron Neville and John Doe were vocally impeccable in their interpretations. Jones was excited to revisit a favorite Dylan track. "I listened to a lot of things that Bob had written and when I heard that one, it struck a chord with me," Jones told Billboard prior to the show. The song is the lead track to his 2010 album Praise & Blame. "It's a very important song because it's (about) what good am I if I don't so something about certain situations. So I'm happy that he likes my version of it. It seems to me that he does or he wouldn't have asked me here." A few artists provided unique twists on their songs: Beck pushed "Leopard Skin Pill-Box Hat," which he recorded for the 2009 charity album War Child Presents Heroes, into fuzzy psychedelia; Los Lobos enhanced "On a Night Like This" with a rhumba rhythm; and John Mellencamp slowed "Highway 61 Revisited" to a Tom Waits-ian dirge with just single piano backing him. Raitt, who played a slow and bluesy "Standing in the Doorway," praised Dylan for "his eloquence and his bite" in a pre-show interview. "He writes about those kinds of things that are uncomfortable and need to be truthfully spoken about," she said. "He writes them better than anybody." The audience was equally star-packed. Lady Gaga, Tony Bennett, T Bone Burnett, the Band Perry, the Arctic Monkeys, Jeff Bridges, Josh Groban, songwriter and ASCAP president Paul Williams, Valerie Simpson, Jenny Lewis, Ric Ocasek, the Grateful Dead's Mickey Hart, Desmond Child, guitarist Orinathi, classical pianist Lang Lang, the Doors' John Densmore and Richie Sambora were part of the crowd that raised a record-breaking $7 million for the charity that assists musicians in need. Set list: Beck - "Leopard Skin Pill-Box Hat" Aaron Neville - "Shooting Star" Alanis Morissette - "Subterranean Homesick Blues" Los Lobos - "On a Night Like This" Willie Nelson - "Senor" Jackson Browne - "Blind Willie McTell" John Mellencamp - "Highway 61 Revisited" Jack White - "One More Cup of Coffee" Tom Jones - "What Good Am I" Norah Jones - "I'll Be Your Baby Tonight" Derek Trucks and Susan Tedeschi - "Million Miles" John Doe - "Pressing On" Crosby, Stills & Nash - "Girl from the North Country" Bonnie Raitt - "Standing in the Doorway" Sheryl Crow - "Boots of Spanish Leather" Garth Brooks (via satellite from Pittsburgh) - "Make You Feel My Love" Bruce Springsteen - "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" Neil Young - "Blowin in the Wind" Melinda Newman contributed to this report. http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6465498/bob-dylan-musicares-speech

We are in heated agreement!

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