AdamSmith

Here's what that claim of "more diverse, educated and tolerant" was sourced to: http://people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/300.pdf ...tonight's leisure reading. (It was sourced through a hyperlink in the original article, which the dratted Copy function on my iPhone fails to pick up.)

Marijuana legalization: University of Oregon economist offers positive take on legal pot (Beth Nakamura/The Oregonian) By Noelle Crombie | ncrombie@oregonian.com Email the author | Follow on Twitter on October 16, 2014 at 12:02 PM, updated October 16, 2014 at 5:17 PM View/Post Comments States with medical marijuana laws saw decreases in suicide rates, particularly among young men, as well as a drop in drunken driving, also among young men, a University of Oregon economics professor told Portland business leaders Thursday. Economist Ben Hansen discussed the potential implications for Oregon if voters approve legal recreational marijuana in the November election. Hansen, whose work focuses on the economics of risky behavior, spoke at the Oregon Economic Forum, sponsored by the University of Oregon and held at the Portland Art Museum. Hansen offered a largely positive take on legalization, saying medical marijuana states on average did not see spikes in crime and or teen pot use. He said research suggests some people in medical marijuana states substitute pot for riskier substances like alcohol and that choice may be a factor in declines in drunken driving and suicide. Researchers looked at the first five years after medical marijuana was introduced in 17 states and found an average 5 percent drop in suicide rates. Among men 20 to 29 years old, rates fell by an average of 11 percent. On teen use, Hansen said four different studies drew similar conclusions: youth consumption generally did not climb in states with medical marijuana laws. If anything, there was a decrease, he said. Hansen, in his own work, researched traffic fatalities in Oregon and 16 other states with medical marijuana laws and found an average 8 percent drop within the first five years of the laws implementation. The number of drunken driving fatalities dropped by 13 to 15 percent. The decreases were largest among young men, he said. He offered a couple of possible factors driving the data: Federal studies found that while stoned and drunken drivers are physically impaired and make poor decisions, stoned drivers tend to be risk-averse, generally driving slower and leaving more distance between their cars and others. Drunken drivers, meanwhile, tend to take more risks behind the wheel. (Hansen made clear he does not condone either.) Another possibility: People who smoke pot tend to consume it in private homes, whereas people consume alcohol in bars, said Hansen. "It could be that we are taking people off the roads who would be dangerous drivers," Hansen said, who added he was a little bit surprised by the findings. Hansens research found that states with medical marijuana laws also saw declines in heavy drinking and a 5 percent decline overall in beer sales. He noted that revenue from legal marijuana sales might be offset by declines in alcohol revenue. Hansen addressed the potential tax revenue for Oregon and the challenge of setting a price for legal marijuana that keeps it competitive with a robust black market and the states medical marijuana industry. One study financed by legalization advocates estimated that Oregon could take in $38 million in the first year of legal recreational sales, a figure Hansen called optimistic. Ultimately, said Hansen, legalizing marijuana saves society the expense of jailing offenders. Under legalization, its the pot consumers who pay the government with every purchase. Think of it, he said, as a way of instituting fines on a really large scale and calling them taxes. And in case youre wondering, Hansen isnt, as he put it, a pot head professor. Hes Mormon, he said. "I dont have a stake in the matter as far as alcohol vs. marijuana," he said after his talk concluded. "Both of those are things that my wife would get mad at me if I touched either." -- Noelle Crombie http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2014/10/marijuana_legalization_univers.html

Very interested to know your source for this news. Oregon does not vote on legalization until next month: http://egov.sos.state.or.us/elec/web_irr_search.record_detail?p_reference=20140053..LSCYYY.

Most encouraging. Godless millennials could end the political power of the religious right http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/26/millennials-godless-politics-religous-conservatives ...The so-called millennials (Americans born between 1982 and 2000) are far more diverse, educated and tolerant than their predecessors. They're also the least religious generation in American history -- they're even getting less religious as they get older, which is unprecedented -- and the majority of them identify Christianity as synonymous with harsh political conservatism. As older, more religious generations fade away and younger generations replace them, the societal midpoint shifts. And this trend is going to accelerate in coming years, because the millennial generation is big. They're even bigger than the baby boomers...

Draker apologized for it himself on Daddy's forum, after some forensics by others. Searching for 'IceFireWizard' using the search function on that forum will dredge up the relevant threads.

Looks like Steven's hijack of a thread on Tristan Baldwin, in order to accuse posters of using multiple identities (irony of ironies), irritated Daddy to where he (Daddy) separated the hijack sequence into its own thread, retitling it 'What did I say about Hijacking Threads?' and putting Steven on time-out. One could speculate that his characteristic behavior in other threads didn't help either.

...anyone making book on how long from time-out there to reappearance here?

Or possibly because he likes flinging them at other diners?

No firsthand experience (yet!) but Eli Lewis has had my eye for some time: http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=378087 http://www.elilewisonline.com/ http://daddysreviews.com/cruise/newest/eli_lewis_nyc

Q: Why did Our Favorite Belgian earn yet another Time-Out over there?

Without comment.

Not technically cornbread but rather hoe cake