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Who the fuck does BN think he is?BN has been caught up in so many inaccuuracies(read lies or nontruths-take your pick)that he is the last person who should be chiding anyone-including a "d-lister"(as opposed to a whore-ooops "escort"such as BN)about lies meant to "bring the spotlight"back opon oneself. Jeeeeesus christ BN stick to doing what you do well-making old geezers feel "special"by tying them up and spitting Dom at them!

As I mentioned above I no longer participate on the Bill and Deej show-as I refuse to help out at all .I do hope it withers and dies out of non participation.No loss for me. Why did I post on this site-because a question was asked and I participated by giving an opinion.That is what we do on message boards.And the more posts-the more interest in this site. I also see Deej just could not not offer a real explanation!Just more BS-and he even made a little chart of it all-so it must be so! Your traffic is down because regular posters are not posting any more!That is it plain and simple . We got tired of the delays,the BS fluff reviews,The offering up of con men instead of real working boys etc etc etc,,,but MAINLY becausw of the continued arrogence of Deej and Bill.

An example of "the Bill and Deej show" Deej wrote on the other site"In response to Reply # 5 Adding to all of the above, look at the calendar. We're 65 (just bumped into a countdown clock yesterday) days away from New Years. The weeks leading into (and just after) the holidays are traditionally slower than normal because people are busy Christmas shopping, traveling to spend time with family, etc., instead of out having fun. (And reeling from sticker shock when that first credit card statement hits in January.)" Instead of saying "Yeah it has been a little slow"or"ya know-you're right-we are kinda slow and lazy around here-that's why we take ALL holidays and the weekends off-and whenever else we feel like it"neither this fella nor his Boss will ever apologize"nor admit a mistake-and he has to have the last word-always. This was fine when there was a leash on things but now the "power" of being lord high mucky-muck has gone to his head=not pleasant.

Well I for one-and there are quite a few others-have grown so disgusted by the the Bill and Deej show that we no longer participate"overthere"I posted my first review here recently and will continue to submit them to this site rather than the feifdom of the othersite. Hooboys site started as a very small internet chat group and grew to a nice size(love it when things that look small grow to a nice size)and I hope this site does the same.

I have cum to the conclussion that "older"(meaning 25-40)fellas really work better for me.The last two fellas I have hired are an example. The Russian/Serb in LA showed up tired having been up all night and was not really "up for it"but the Fella I hired in Las Vegas showed me a great time and played some very naughty games with me-Thank you ACE. And this is not a single example but rather a recurring theme.So I am going to try to swear off twinks/"bois"for a while and stick with the guys who have been around the block a couple of times. I am sure this will come as a great relief to the many chickenhawks who inhabbit this site-more young stuff for you!

>I'm not going to completely disagree with your advice, but I >think it is unfair and unrealistic to tell a parent to just >give up on their child and stand back and watch them destroy >themselves. > >My brother too is an addict and a drunk, he was hell for many >years, but I never gave up on him and I never quit trying to >get him help. Sure it was maddening, he fucked up everything >and cost me a ton of money, but I'd do it all again if I had >to because I love him. > >Our parents sucked, they were to busy and into each other to >give a fuck. I was all he had. I wasn't going to turn my back >on him or give up trying. My friends gave me pretty much the >same advice you just gave BoN, but it's not that easy when >it's your child or someone you love. > >My efforts did pay off. My brother has been clean and sober >for over five years and finished college two years ago. If he >relapsed I'd be there for him again. > >I'm sorry, but I don't think turning your back on someone you >love, when they are destroying themselves, is helping anyone. >I think a more proactive approach is better. > >mbarz Unfortunately the results of this is often,though not always,that the disease of addiction then claims more lives than just that of the addict. Mbarz-I am sure your intentions are noble,and your brother is blessed to have such a good brother(mine would be checking my wallet as I lay passed out in the gutter-which happned a few times!)but learning to detach with love is very difficult for the most hardened of us-let alone a loving person, I have seen to many addicts coddled/supported and kept from realizing their own recovery not to advised a very strong dose of tough love here. The whole dynamic changes once an addiction is in the room. Speed is a real bitch as speedfreaks are soooooo good at lying,coniving and manipulating. I am so bored of the speedfreaks in the gay community. PNP is all over craigslist/manhunt. And if you do not want to PNP welllll then you just won't get laid it sometimes seems. I think smoking is the hardest addiction to give up-followed by speed.But it can be done.

BN wrote"I never advised anyone to just 'give up' on someone battling addictions. I sure didn't. " Nor did anyone acuse you of this.

Dearest BoN, BN above wrote"I've sent him to 6 rehab clinics."and therin lies one of the gist of "trying to help"a loved one"recover"from a harmful addiction.We interced upon the addicts behalf,out of a snce of love and loyalty-and sometimes out of ego. Often it is way too early in an addicts career of abuse.Of course we as lovers/friend/relatives/spouses want to do what is best for our friend/loved one.But,unfortumately,what we think is best is actually our own sense of correctness,or of our need to be the saviour in our loved ones life. As BN and others who have posted-this all ends horribly wrong and IMO teaches the addict some new tricks to use against those who are only trying to help. As painfull as it is,and it is often heartbreaking,the only way an addict will clean up his act is when h himself takes the lead and puts himself into a treatment program or sets upon a road to recovery. As a recovering drunk I have been around the Maypole so many times with boys who had learned the way to my wallet/home was with a sad story of a fall from grace and the hope(sincere or not)that someone(like me)could fix them.It has taken me 20 years but I now firmly belive that I cannot fix anybody-including myself!This is a voyager that they must do on their own-not alone,as there are meeting of like souls every night in every city of the US that are there to help.I am of course referiring to AA/NA/SA/OEA/SLAA and all of the other self help groups. Some scoff at these groups,but it is my experience that if an addict is unwilling to try any form of recovery than his chances for a good and healthy recovery are doomed from the start.And,as selfish as it might seem.when I am faced with such objections I just turn and go on my way-with the proviso to the person seeking help and or sympathy that I am there for them when they are ready to stop. This is very,very hard to do,Addicts and drunks can be as manipulative and as cunning as the substances which they abuse. So BON what should you do?Well stop trying to save your son and ,as hard as it might be,detach with love.Your support and love are well known to him,as are the buttons he know how to push.Do not try to neggotiate with him,he is a grown man-he must now grow up. Wen hes is truly ready to stop,he will stop.Hopefully that will be soon. There is a huge industry of recovery right now.And they all try to make it seem that they can do somethig for the addict that they cannot do on their own,They cannot. You have my good wishes on this,as does your son.

Good question Tweety I will wear shorts/Tshirt if needed(spending the night at someones home and we are not intimate)and if a fela is in bed with me is wearing shorts-ummmmm ok? I really like sleeping nude with a trick or a BF. But I also do not like friends to be uncomfortable Joe Buck on the other hand falls asleep in his Rodeo outfit and his boots- unless he passes out while I am blowing him-an all to frequent occurance I fear!

I was thinking last night if it was odd that I sleep in the nude. Any others ? If I have guests than I do sleep in my underclothes unless they are nude also. So lets have a little informal poll Who sleeps in a full set of nightclothes/partial/underclothes/nude? And has this changed over time?In my case yes,I wore pj's as a kid,underclothes until 30,nude ever since.

>I didn't realize Rita Skeeter from "Harry Potter" >was writing press releases for escort review sites. > > Was that the charecter played by Joanna Lumely in the film? PS-Seven?when are you travelling to CA next?KYT's raving about you has me intrigued }(

Spent a couple of days in Portland-what a great city. They have really done a gret job in bringing back a dead downtown and made a very livable inviting city-for all people,not just the well heeled. Yes there is a homeless population-but nowhere as threatning/destructive as San Francisco. They have also revitalizesd a warehouse district and made it a destination spot called The Pearl. LOTS of street trade available. Also stopped by the Silverado.Plenty of cute working boys and some hot strippers. I will return. LOVE being able to ride the light rail into town from the airport for $2!

I had a big Mercedes at one point in my Life.Then after a change of circumstances I had to trade down. IME Merc's and BMW's are wonderful driving machines.My boss has a variety of them and I often get to drive them as well as Lexi and Jags. The purchase price is only part of the purchase price.They are sooooooo fussy and finely tuned that they spend much more time in the shop then the Lexi-or my Nissan ever did. And once you are off warrenty-good luck. I do not have the desire to shell out that kind of cash for an appliance. But to each their own.And if you can afford it,great. I was trying to support American workers.Ford and Chrysler are the only American marques that appeal to me.Ford was giving out free cash.Guess who won.

I bought a new car yesterday. I had had my eyes set in the Ford Fusion for quite a while and the 0%-0 down financing promotion was incentive enough to get me to a dealership-that and the AC had died in mi 97 altima AGAIN. The internet/fleet guy at the dealership was great.No hustle,low key-interested in making a deal work for me.A very nice chang from my last car buying experience.They had the model I was looking at,in the color I was looking at-done deal.It still took over three hours from when I walked in till when I drove out. Funny thing though.On the sticker they had a sign saying the car was only 30%us made parts,and assembled in Mexico. So much for trying to support US workers ;(

Another example of a certain site owners arrogence getting in the way of growing his buisiness -as found on craigslist Reply to: pers-198899494@craigslist.org Date: 2006-08-25, 3:06PM I know some of you visit this site. I tried to start a new member account last week and ending up 'deactivating' my original member name and password that I have had for years. Can't get a email response from Daddy. Figure he is busy rebuilding the site and I may not be able to rejoin because of that. Just trying to reinstate my regular member name a password. Any ideas? Thanks Nice to know he is as indifferent now as he was when he did not"own"the site.

I have noticed something strange over at the other place.All-or a very large percentage-of the review put up in the last 2 weeks are positive. I searched and could not find a middling or negative review. So either there is a new code of ethics by the working boys(HAH-Joe Buck has the ethics of a raccon in a dumpster)or the reviews being submitted are all by the happiest of campers,or the reviews are being culled by"someone".

"To one of them I talk roughly on a weekly base." Anton-you can talk rough with me anytime!

If I might very humbly offer a different take on this.I am friendly with many,many working boys and former working boys.Some have on occassion ordered "for delivery"rather than going out to hunt. Is there a way these fellows might be accomodated should they wish to post a review? And at what poin,should a worrking boy retire from his noble calling,could they start reviewing? I am reminded of the axiom"Todays trade is tommorows competition!"

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MarcAnthony spends so much time with the boys in Montreal that his kind spirit,joie de vivre,and generous nature is well known. He is just as kind and genourous(with his time)with friends outside of the clubs as well. His"bling"radiates from within-no need for diamonds!

Well hello there,long time lurker first time poster-decided to jump from" the other site"before it was destroyed by hubris,greed,and stupidity! Looking forward to playing in this sand box for a while. Maybe all the other refugees will add their names to this thread-just in case we are missed }(