moonwalker

My experiences were in Punta Cana, and not at any brothel or through an agency. Ofc I had my girlfriend with me and the guy we met was interested in her, but I got the impression that a LOT of the guys who frequent bars or who work there would be willing to do something with a guy alone if offered money as well. Many were very good looking too so there's a lot to pick and choose from. Seemed easy if you wanted to.

1. I never said I don't pay. This is an escort forum, and I've hired plenty of times. Mainly for the thrill and convenience. And I've also dated or hooked up with other hot guys IRL without financial compensation. Any escort could tell you that they have a surprisingly decent amount of good looking guys hiring them. We all have our reasons and it's a pity that we can't just respect this and call people like me, who anyone could see from my many comments and some posts since 2014 have only shared on here with the best intentions, a liar or fraud.
2. Obviously. That's how the escorting world works. But I didn't give that guy a cent. He has a successful corporate job and has a very successful modeling career on top of it. He paid his own way throughout the relationship.
3. I doubt you'd be saying that if you saw him from the front. I deliberately chose that pic where he looks leaner than he is (he's jacked) because he is very, very well known and would be very unhappy to know that pic was published online. But I'm sure he ain't reading this forum so...

Hahahahahaha, I actually laughed out loud reading this. I generally resist feeding trolls, but dude you're just too irresistible.
God forbid a 35 year old white guy could be good looking enough to attract how guys in another country without having to pay. Dude, I spent the last 12 months dating and traveling the world with a 25 year old very well known male model. "BULLSHIT!!!!!!" I hear you screaming from the rooftops. Well you'll never know, unless you had my or his Instagram. Like that's going to happen! Although I am happy to share a (face covered) nude snap from a recent vacation together with the board.
And if by remembering the "good old days", you mean the vibrant sex/dating life I've always had and still have, I guess you're right. I do enjoy thinking about the stunning men I actually have dated/fucked/enjoyed friendships with over the past 25 years.
The fact you choose not to believe stories that are 100% true is your choice. And I know nothing I'd say would change that. But it sure is fascinating to encounter someone so bitter that they spend their time attacking someone they don't (and won't ever) know who shows up here with only good intentions.
I have developed a few friendships with trusted, sane posters on this forum. We've gotten to know each other, privately shared photos and stories about guys we're hooking up with or dating. Attitudes like yours are self-isolating.
I'm not responding to anything else from you, but please feel free to keep slinging shit since it appears to make you happy.

I'm honestly so surprised (of course I shouldn't be given how other genuinely interesting specific topics in these forums are overtaken by bitterness and petty arguments from the same posters). Badboy, you ask me questions, I go to the trouble to give you honest and thoughtful answers then you respond with shit like that meme.
It's been said many times before, but these forums could be an amazing source of shared info were it not for the constant trolling. I wish there was more careful moderation on here and that the back and forth sniping and hate was removed so that we could stick to the topics asked about or shared. I would post far more in that environment.

The guy has a sexy body but really (for me anyway) beauty is about the face.  
Obviously for privacy reasons Pylonguy can’t post that...there is no use in arguing about how attractive someone is without seeing their face (nice cock adds points too lol)

I mean it isn’t like you are planning for your girlfriend to bareback with them right?
Wear a condom, get on Prep for extra protection.  
I doubt the guys on Tindr are that much cleaner than the average garoto.  A lot of guys on here have been with lots of sauna guys and never gotten anything.
Please let us know how you adventure goes..

...was at Carnaval in the mid 2000's.  ...liked Rio and its surrounding areas afterwards because the prices for lodging, I remember, were drastically decreased.  ...weather great as well, but today one can't count on steady weather patterns during these drastic climate changes.

Coming soon after Carnaval, probably late March/early April. Is this usually a good time to come, I'll see you'll be there too?

Sorry, I haven't been on here for a few days so only just saw this. I always find it a little embarrassing to rate my own looks, but I can say that I have always looked much younger. Now, I'm late forties and without fail when I meet someone new through life or work, they look shocked when I tell them my age and say something like "wow, I really thought you were early to mid thirties!" so I guess at 35 I probably looked like I was 28 or so. I've always worked out and when I was in Rio I was in close to the best shape of my life. A few of the actually gay sauna guys (because as we know most of them are gay4pay or bi) spoke with me and said "you know you don't need to come to saunas and pay for sex, you are hot enough to get any guy you want for free". I explained that I loved the thrill of the saunas and had no problem "helping" a guy out with some money lol. So, I hope that describes me a little, but I could add I have very, very blue eyes and I think South American guys really like that feature. And I'm pretty fortunate "down below" - maybe not Brazilian sized but close enough to compete hehe.

thanks gogo, I'll come and wing it, probably try both. Been curious about 117 for a long time so I'll try it for myself anyway. But what you say is pretty much what I'd expect.

I have no idea why people can’t answer a question on face value and start fighting instead of giving their view and leaving it at that  
@moonwalker, I really don’t think you will have any problem.  It will work in the same way as in the US, maybe even more easily: Just find a guy that your girlfriend finds attractive, on the beach, in a bar or in a club, and see if he speaks a bit of English, and start a conversation. You can use love hotels for the action, they are in all the key spots.
If you really want to chose a guy from clube 117, it should be just as easy, most guys are bi or straight, so fucking a 25 yo girl is probably going to be offered for free. Or for R$50, which is less than US$15, if you could pay for the flight, you can afford that. 

I'm bi (I'll explain soon why this is relevant). Traveling soon to Rio after Carnaval. Been reading the forum/curious to try this for a while.
I'll be coming with my girlfriend. We're both 25 and she's adventurous. Basically she likes Brazilian/Latin guys (we both do lol) so we're looking for a guy around our age or younger, who fits the bill of what she likes. Which is basically tan/brown skin, muscular/fit/sixpack handsome and a big dick. Sounds clicheed I know it, but it's what we want/like. I'd be looking mainly to watch while my gf has fun with him, at least to start with. We'll be spending six weeks there so an ongoing arrangement would be great if first time works out.
What I wanted to ask was advice, first of all, is this normal/common in Brazil now or will it be seen as weird of us as a thing to look for? In America it's definitely something that's not so unusual right now, especially among young couples to try out, and a relatively normal "kink." But I'm not sure how it is in Brazil or if we'd be seen as weirdos to try it out/ask/look for it.
Second, I was thinking of finding a guy for her from club 117? Not sure if this is the best way, so I wanted to get advice. I think it would definitely be possible (I think?) to find a guy on the beach to do this (she's quite attractive/fit so it's not like she'd have trouble getting a guy lol) but given all our requirements it might be more convenient to try to find someone at 117 from what I've seen. I'm asking if you think this is a decent idea and I mean also in regards to SAFETY and also doability, in all ways.
I know my question is somewhat unusual for this forum maybe but I thought there might be posters here who could give advice or if we'd be going about this the wrong way.

Haven't you heard about this thing called sex....is done for pleasure sometimes 

They both said they would be up for it...I've been known to do it for free, lol

I'm in my room now with 2 guys, so I asked them this question....they both laughed and said this would be NO PROBLEM here. One wants me to send his picture to you, lol

Hard to understand why people get testy on here when a question is asked. Wish you guys would stop fighting me and each other! It was just an innocent question about the best way to do this. I was also concerned about possible health risks doing this through a sauna.
I haven't been to Brazil so I can't weigh in on the dispute between badboy and pylonguy, except it would seem to me that in a macho culture the men wouldn't have any problem fucking another guy's gf and might even get off on it, because it's competitive or w/e. Actually that's why I thought Brazil might be a good place to try this (besides the fact that both me and my gf find Brazilian guys sexy).

Actually, I specifically answered the two things you asked me - when I was there and where I met the bi guys I hooked up with. As I said, both on the beaches and in saunas.
While Brazil culture exudes a machismo in public, I found that to be absolutely not the case in private. That was just my experience, I can't speak for other people. The sauna guys I met who suggested a threesome with a girl/friend did so while making it clear that they did not want money for such an exchange. I wasn't interested in a bisexual scene at the time, but I did have many non sexual encounters with sauna guys outside of the saunas. I would put that down to my relative youth at the time and the fact that I was a good looking, gym fit guy with no expectations in Brazil beyond those of most adventurous travelers. I went to the saunas out of curiosity, more than anything else. I remember a a hot garoto approaching me and asking if I would be interesting in joining him and a young local client for a threesome. The client had seen me and wanted to pay for me to join a threesome, lol. I said I didn't need to be paid to participate, as they were both very good looking and I was pretty sure a fun time would be had. Indeed it was.
One of the things I have always enjoyed about this forum is the diversity of experiences, advice and stories shared. Like Numazu's amazing trip reports, which detail both his paid play and also the genuine friendships and connections he has formed in Brazil. I've had very similar experiences with guys I met in Eastern Europe and Russia. Sometimes a connection that started via an escort website/bar/Instagram has quickly evolved into something more akin to friends with benefits. I've had guys fly themselves (on their own dime) to the US and other destinations in Europe to spend time with me. I know that's far from the "norm", but it's the combination of such diverse shared experiences that has brings folk like Moonwalker onto this forum seeking advice.

I don't think women are allowed in guy sauna, eg, club 117, Lagoa.., so like you said, you will have to go by yourself and order a take-out.

Thanks. Just to clarify we're not looking for a classical 3some, at least to start with, but specifically for the fantasy where he fucks her and I watch. I think this should be easier?

lol I've been looking at posts on this forum and it's like, yes people get a little bit unnecessarily confrontational. Not sure why you're doing it, but I'll try not to engage.
I'm writing with friendly questions about a fun sexual escapades type thing. Sounds like you've maybe got some issues.
For the record I've done this with my girlfriend before, in Florida and also in the Dominican Republic. Most guys don't charge to get a hot girl dude sorry to burst your bubble (and I think we're also pretty careful about "violent") It's like the way you talk is weird. "Girl, you MAY have the privilege of NOT paying for sex but don't count on it" it's like get over yourself dude. Most guys would bang even not-hot girls, idc if they're Brazilian or Dutch or from Singapore. Men want sex with women, at least most straight guys are on the prowl and up for that any time.
Jeez

Yassssssss. You and your gf sounds like my kind of couple. Living life on your terms and carefree. There are a ton of bisexual guys in the saunas with families at home. I think the sauna might be the best alternative for you and your gf. My husband and I have been with at least 6 six from the saunas who have a wife/girlfriend. Also, whenever we take a guy from the sauna we only pay $300R, which is considerably cheap to have a, "fucking good time," pun intended. At the sauna you know the guys are there to have sex and usually at a VERY REASONABLE price. Have fun. Take pics and send to me in a private message. Lol!
Actually, if you're looking for a few hung guys, I can refer about 3 guys to you. They are hung like mules and will pound her like a drummer in a marching band.

I envy you! If I could find a beautiful black woman to have Bi sex with. I would marry her and have freaky sex trips all the time.  But unfortunately Bi is the same thing as gay in the black community. Enjoy your time I’m sure you won’t have any trouble finding a guy that would be delighted to fuck your young wife with or without you; rather than an old loose booty queen lol! I would go to the sauna so you know exactly what you're getting. I hope you both find that perfect guy or guys!  

Your situation is definitely do-able, as long as you conduct your business intelligently and discreetly. Almost every working garoto and casually non-working one that I know prefers to have sex with women (or at least publicly does).
Many advertising working garotos de programa indicate that they are open to both men and women, knowing damn well that women rarely if ever peruse those gay escort ads. If you aren’t a Portuguese speaker, when you see ads, look for “homens e mulheres” — which means men and women. Also, the word for couples is “casais” (“travesti” means trans, for what it’s worth). Look at many garoto de programa, or “boy” ads and you’ll see one or more of these phrases. You can easily try a garoto out from an ad or an app like Grindr or Planet Romeo / Hunqz.
Re: saunas, of course, your girlfriend cannot enter (and for this, I shall be eternally grateful). But most of the working guys in there will probably be interested in your arrangement, granted the pay is right (remember that they are there to make money, and often what the client looks like is of little concern). Offsite programas will most likely cost you more, as well as the costs of two clients in one who are present during the session (whether male/female or male/male), and the transportation costs to and from your hotel/apartment. Your GF being attractive to them might sweeten the deal a little. But, the sauna would be a good place for you to sample the goods yourself first, and show him photos of your GF,  as well as get a feel if you are comfortable with him and introducing him to your girl.
Re: the beach, this may be the riskiest move with the least opportunity for reward. Unless you already know the guy is a working guy, and know someone who knows his reputation, I would avoid this one without someone to guide you along on your first trip. I actually know several beach guys who somewhat clandestinely work the beaches for either men or women, but that takes a great deal of time and effort. FYI: One of my beach favorites (who definitely fits your desired description) met two of my visiting very hot lipstick lesbian friends with me on the beach, and literally spent the entire next week trying to fuck them (they weren’t about that life, however). I never asked but I got the strong feeling that he is the type that would be very uncomfortable with a woman knowing he also does guys. This is NOT a situation you’d want to get into in an unfamiliar environment.
Good luck and exercise good judgment and caution.
 
 

I'm bi (I'll explain soon why this is relevant). Traveling soon to Rio after Carnaval. Been reading the forum/curious to try this for a while.
I'll be coming with my girlfriend. We're both 25 and she's adventurous. Basically she likes Brazilian/Latin guys (we both do lol) so we're looking for a guy around our age or younger, who fits the bill of what she likes. Which is basically tan/brown skin, muscular/fit/sixpack handsome and a big dick. Sounds clicheed I know it, but it's what we want/like. I'd be looking mainly to watch while my gf has fun with him, at least to start with. We'll be spending six weeks there so an ongoing arrangement would be great if first time works out.
What I wanted to ask was advice, first of all, is this normal/common in Brazil now or will it be seen as weird of us as a thing to look for? In America it's definitely something that's not so unusual right now, especially among young couples to try out, and a relatively normal "kink." But I'm not sure how it is in Brazil or if we'd be seen as weirdos to try it out/ask/look for it.
Second, I was thinking of finding a guy for her from club 117? Not sure if this is the best way, so I wanted to get advice. I think it would definitely be possible (I think?) to find a guy on the beach to do this (she's quite attractive/fit so it's not like she'd have trouble getting a guy lol) but given all our requirements it might be more convenient to try to find someone at 117 from what I've seen. I'm asking if you think this is a decent idea and I mean also in regards to SAFETY and also doability, in all ways.
I know my question is somewhat unusual for this forum maybe but I thought there might be posters here who could give advice or if we'd be going about this the wrong way.

Is is unusual in Brazil but Im sure you would be able to find somebody to accommodate you and your girlfriend...I havent seen any female just hanging out in the saunas ever so you would probably have to recruit the guy with pics and telling them what you hare looking for....use google translate if you don't speak Portuguese...
Not sure how many guys would be open to a 3some but Im sure you can persuade somebody from the saunas to do it....you may be able to find somebody off the apps...
Just use your best judgement and make sure what you are looking to do is stated clearly so you wont have any issues...
Have a great time...

I would avoid to arrive before 16.30.
Probably the best time is 18. After that, for each guy who enters there is one who leaves.