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Here is one more dated e-visa thread to pull up to the present in anticipation of reinstatement this coming Fall.

Getting a consular visa is hella more complicated than the e-visa was or will be when reinstated. Not the least of which is the aggravation of your passport leaving your possession temporarily. How much replenished staffing at BRZ consulates in Canada will occur to accommodate in-person and/or postal mail consular visa application is uncertain. Staffing was slashed concomitant with e-visa and then visa waiver. Serving Canadians in a staffed environment was virtually eliminated and services were oriented to that remaining part geared to Brazilian nationals in Canada. The e-visa option is simpler and there will be resistance to funding manpower for two systems simply to accommodate a 2-choice prerogative for applicants. The e-visa likely has a globally coordinated digital processing centre as opposed to running through several regional consulate offices throughout the 4 affected nations. Recent CoV-related transient travel hassles (eg, testing and insurance add-ons) to Brazil far outweigh the e-visa aggravation in terms of both labour and costs. Me and travel companions required e-visas for visiting Argentine section of Iguassu Falls. Same idea; fairly simple. —— I pulled up two old 2018 Brazil e-visa threads under LatinAmer heading, by posting brief current replies, in order to be contemporaneous in thread order with the current new Gay Brazil thread.

I cannot figure out how to embed this old thread in the new e-visa topic thread, but simply adding to it will pull it up close to the new thread.

31 days is prudent, on the safe side, to be sure, and only 3.3% more in cost, let’s say you want the place for 25 days, and are willing to pony up payment for unoccupied days in order to support the host to abide by Thai regulations. In many cases, the overall cost for a month in a condo apartment is less than for a hotel-licensed unit with a full kitchen and one or more separate enclosed bedrooms over a period short of a month. Hosts may be content to earn just enough to maintain growing property equity. I have read the Hotel Act and Condominium Act; neither specify a definition of monthly or contain wording regarding quantity of days, so either 30 days or 31 days is an arbitrary interpretation. Additionally, monthly is not specified as beginning to end of a month on a conventional calendar versus any equivalent composite of days that does not commence and end on the first or last of a given month. However, if you check-in for 30 nights on March 1st, check out is March 31st, so you have physical presence on 31 calendar days although paying 30 days. Similarly, if you lease an apartment anywhere globally, let’s say for one year, you would typically take possession March 1st and vacate March 31st the following year The Condominium Act contains no provision whatsoever that defines or restricts the permissible time frame of rental to a 3rd party by a unit owner, or start or end dates within a month. The time criteria for a period beyond “short-term” is not defined. Rental periods are not contained in the legislation. It stipulates restrictions on commercial activity within a private portion, but does not mention or justify any distinction between rental contracts of less than a month versus greater than or equal to a month as far as commercial activity … that temporal stratification is contained solely within the Hotel Act. Most conventional renting is advertised on commercial platforms. The two Acts don’t knit together well for implementation. My interpretation of the regulations is that if you are able to produce a platform-generated receipt for 30 consecutive nights, beginning on any date, your host would be considered to be in compliance with the intent of the Hotel Act. The enforcement of related rules for shorter periods lacks teeth and consistency but as a visitor you would likely want to keep things above board.

Back to South America topic … The Avianca flights BOG-GRU (mid Jan) and GIG-BOG (mid Feb) were great, only $625 USD combined price, very roomy, the best seats (bulkhead in my case), again as business class for most of the western hemisphere has given way to the new 2-2 configuration with the middle table first few rows. At that price, bringing snacks or buying on board not an imposition. Lounge access El Dorado due to the highest flight fare class, but not at Galeão. Air Canada business class to Bogotá return was merely $1150USD. Air Canada business fare to São Paulo was running $7000USD for similar dates, twice the distance for 6 times the fare price, no thanks. The itinerary ultimately worked out well, for both multiple destination goals and savings.

I discontinued Grindr due to the exorbitant price markup but I expect everybody else here has cancelled Church and logged in. 🤣

I take it that the OF performer had provided clues on his Grindr profile he was trade travelling with a plan to seek being subsidized? Otherwise you probably wouldn’t have launched in with the assumption the older guy was paying an escort fee as opposed to two people just having lunch? Unless it was a more nuanced tactful inquiry and reveal.

You likely travel prepared, and with a mask supply, but in case you are not aware face covering this winter was, and currently continues to be, required within the more formal areas of Brazil airports such as customs and security. For my domestic trip customs was not involved but some travellers caught off guard were scrambling to obtain masks to enter security clearance and they were worn as well on the flight.

With that level of propulsion who needs a stretch of automated ‘people mover’ walkways?

So in other words, when not down south, not unlike an average frigid Quebec low-temp dry-air dead-of-winter couch-potato series of days, eyes locked on TV and device screens, reaching over to pull Labbat Blues out of the cooler, passing loads of wind, and out of sheer necessity forcing oneself out of the recliner to nuke more poutine gravy, drain the snake, or toss a log into the fire.

If the trends in this article are correct, a piece a few years ago and presumably without any bias aimed at reclaiming the reciprocity angle, they read like a back-to-school sale eventually followed by a Black Friday sale, though obviously the analogy does not fly in terms of durations. The e-Visa had a substantial effect over at least its first 12 months, in fact, likely over its 18 months preceding the waiver. The waiver itself spurred a large increase in Brazil travel plans made upon announcement of the waiver and arranged to follow the date of the waiver implementation. In fact, those large transient increases in travel commitment were for Brazilian winter. These stats may have, in part, represented a “bucket list” phenomenon wherein many travellers plan to go to a destination once in their lifetime, and the ease of requirements sweetens the pot, leading to jumping in while the going is good compared to previous hurdles. If so, a sustained effect magnitude postponed to 2022/2023, owing to pandemic factors, might approximate the type of dropping off that would have occurred anyway. Hence, comparing 2022 to 2018 is somewhat like apples-oranges when the rapidly plucked low-hanging candidates had done&dusted Brazil travel for the full calendar years 2018 and 2019, checking the box then moving down the destination list. That said, the assumption, however accurate, that the changes now yield diminishing returns for Brazil tourism, and the reinstatement of a hurdle, likely poses a “taking candy from a baby” effect. Loss aversion usually dictates asymmetry between the pain in losing something and the pleasure in having acquired it. However, perhaps the hoped for advantages of negotiating reciprocity outweigh the loss of residual wish-list tourism. https://www.travelagentcentral.com/running-your-business/stats-e-visas-led-to-record-2018-for-brazil-tourism

And that alone was the pizza delivery guy apart from the overnight guy? One never knows; it’s Brazil.

The e-visa prerogative in place for the 4 national categories from Dec2017 to June2019 was a 2-year entry visa allowing multiple entries tallying a maximum of 90 days per year. Therefore, it will likely be the same or similar. Let’s say you want to visit Argentina at Iguassu Falls or, as I once did, hop over to Portugal and back for a few days within a trip to Brazil, or simply a few shorter trips to Brazil from your country of origin. It did not supplant the option of a regular visitor visa application during that time. I assume that the regular visa option, such as would be required for nationals that require a visa but are not nationals of the 4 relevant countries with e-visa prerogative this October, may be reinstated. My understanding is that these are now all done by online application rather than in-person visits. Some folks will want the option of a greater number of allowable annual days. In fact, it may be that some exempt folks were applying for regular visas anyway in the event that a regular visa conferred better entry options tailored for them compare to entry without a visa requirement. I’m not drilling down into this. Lastly, for longterm repeat visitors the upfront cost of a regular visa may be less than for consecutive 2-year visas. Here is a link to an outdated (Int Civil Aviation) document that likely depicts the procedural lay of the land for e-visa reinstatement this Fall. There are likely other sources should you wish to search. Note that the early application/visitor uptick (though not fact-checked?) somewhat contradicts the current narrative underpinning the legitimacy of reinstating the e-visa. However, it may have been a short-lived surge that smoothed out even prior to the distortion imposed by COVID. https://www.icao.int/Meetings/TRIP-Brazil-2018/Presentations/SANT'ANA.pdf

I’m several weeks later, skipping Rio, as well as avoiding Sampa Pride weekend June7-11 because I don’t want to compete for lodgings or trade. Air Canada has some unusually slashed direct fares on particular dates if one’s schedule is flexible; in fact, I worry my flights will be cancelled or altered as seat selection is showing less than 10% spoken for.

Relieved about the timing, as I recently returned home but have a Spring trip planned to see about a gogo.

https://g1.globo.com/politica/blog/julia-duailibi/post/2023/03/09/exigencia-de-visto-para-eua-canada-australia-e-japao-vai-comecar-em-1-de-outubro.ghtml and …

Another Brazilian media source indicated that it will, in fact, be accessible electronically.

Apparently the visa requirement just broadcasted will take effect October 1st. I don’t see why Canada would dig its heels in on denying a reciprocal waiver rather than simply follow suit with UK and EU.

It’s also unclear whether the Digital Nomad Visa would be affected.

If I have this right, might the visa re-introduction be more of a hassle for visitors wishing to enter for more than an accumulation of 90 days within any 365 days? My initial visa required Brazil consulate visits and was granted for Dec2014 to Dec2019, 5 years; 180 days allowed per 365 days. Then the online electronic version was introduced in 2018 but most of us were not tapping into this format because the visa waiver occurred not long after, June 2019. However, my understanding is that the e-visa was good for only 2 years and restricted travel to 90 days within 365-day periods. The reduction in entry duration privileges (either single extended stay or cumulative stays) never impacted on me due to the timing of the waiver that obviated the requirement of visa renewal via the electronic version. However, frankly I don’t remember the allowable number of days within 365 days for the visa-free situation the past few years. Going forward, I don’t think I would need more than 90 days, for example, if I were to be subject to it commencing next winter: Jan2024-Jan2026; 90 days permitted Jan2024-Jan2025. But I think some visitors among us prefer greater than 90/365-days prerogative. That would suggest the need to strategize, like before, in terms of when the clock starts ticking upon any particular Brazil entry date subsequent to the visa issue date. There may be older useful threads on the board from when the electronic version applied, or worthwhile new accounts of using that visa version over that period 2018-2019, assuming that an online electronic version would be the upcoming method. That said, apparently no nationality is currently offered the electronic visa format. So what is unknown is whether the 4 relevant countries will be subject to that format that existed briefly versus the older more complex format (Eeeesh!) I remember feeling skittish the first occasion and needing to visit the consulate 3 times, but I had only committed to an initial 10-day Economy fare and inexpensive hotel in case my application were to be rejected.

Like, everybody’s on the edge of their seats, dying to know … FullSizeRender.MOV

Oh well, commiserations, you had short time guy some 50,000+ others can but imagine isn’t paranoid.

For a few bucks the most interesting person in the room there and thereafter in remembrance, not at all viewed as weaponizing privilege; rather, the life of the party, the social glue that holds it together. They’ll openly concede and manifest that view in your presence without seeming the least bit disingenuous. You won’t even have to bring your case to venue managers; just tip them. Merely show up with some greenery for your three cheers.

Apparently opening March 9th.