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Maybe this already has been uploaded before, if yes, well for the people who missed it 🙂

I think people are too afraid about perception and want to be liked. If you would say, "well, the normal price is 600, this includes kissing etc...the boy didn't want to kiss and there was no chemistry, but I'll give him the 600 and walk away" I can get into that. Chalk it up as a lesson learned. But after such an experience, why would you pay double the normal price? That doesn't make sense to me at all. Doesn't that go for anything you buy in life? Name any situation where you would pay double after a dissatisfactory experience. Can we do what we want with our money? Yes, of course we can. But since this is an open forum, can't we have an opinion about it and say so? I find it interesting that throughout this thread you've freely offered advice about how to select boys and even characterized the opposing view as "scroogy," but when others share their perspective on tipping practices, suddenly it becomes "other people's money" and we're just bystanders who can't assess the situation. Seems like we should all be able to share our views on an open forum, including opinions on whether rewarding poor service helps or hurts everyone in the long run.

Björn Andrésen, the Swedish actor best known for his breakout role in the 1971 film Death in Venice, has died aged 70. At 15, Andrésen was cast in Italian director Luchino Visconti’s Death in Venice, based on Thomas Mann’s novella, in which he played Tadzio, a beautiful boy with whom an older man, played by Dirk Bogarde, becomes obsessed. Visconti called Andrésen “the most beautiful boy in the world” in the press, a title which stuck – much to the dismay of Andrésen, who would later speak of how his negative experience working with Visconti affected the rest of his life... https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/oct/27/bjorn-andresen-swedish-actor-dies-aged-70

I am not sure I understand any of this. What are the signs you are hoping for? Some people are shy and will not look at you no matter what. Others play the horny, in love, or what ever act they put on and the service can still be bad. Hit or miss...but one thing I would never do is blame myself. @vinapu we don't have to be cheap to expect to get what we pay for. If I am not happy with the service I am not paying double for the experience. All it does is reward bad behavior. and the next lucky guy will be treated the same.

You can see live what is going on in Walking street

I might have read it wrong, but the first part of your post sounded a bit like a reflection on Thai society leading into the real question of whether you could have your beer, which is of course a fair concern. That’s what prompted my sarcastic reaction. As for the comparison, every country relates to its royal family in its own way. In places like the Netherlands or the UK, the tone and boundaries around public discussion are simply different. Anyway, I’m there in two weeks myself, so I’ll just take things as they come. I’ll blend in, wear black, and let the locals set the tone.

Then you wouldn't mind a 30 day shutdown of the entertainment industry I guess.

Seems like a normal U.S.-style secondary check to me. Nothing close to the full-on searches, long detentions, or “come back tomorrow” treatment plenty of travellers get when they land in the States. Welcome to the real world. Same story everywhere: a lot of regular people get blamed for things they never supported. Many Americans are catching the same kind of heat now. Sad times, really.

For those who like to see what is going on in Pattaya. I thought that it was just one stream that changed every now and then but there are 10 live-streams of various places around Pattaya continuously. Also useful to check traffic and such. https://www.youtube.com/@ThaiMeUp-Live

I have seen were a couple of boys come from and it is usually from the countryside. We are talking middle of nowhere with nothing to do...well, mostly not for us. If you are looking for a place where many boys conjugate in bars etc, there is certainly nothing you will find that is better than in Bangkok and Pattaya. However, if you want to give it some effort and time, you could roam the countryside, but I assume that was not what you meant.

You might have had a point, if it weren’t for the fact that I still enjoy the whole atmosphere at Windmill. The thing is, some of the older crowd can’t handle anything above 50 decibels when it comes to music, and they’ll nurse a Sprite for hours. That might actually be the reason. It’s a sharp contrast to places where the music’s louder and the drinks are flowing.

@vinapu You beat me to it! That food looked good. I remember that I've seen many boys on the app. Now, that must have been hornet then, otherwise that scene died? Looking forward to hear the rest.

What about a grandpa?

Since you got the latest news in your own thread: Any rocket scientist you'll find better have boots on the ground. In the mean time, a little fun doesn't hurt and the second comment got me rolling.

AirAsia is made up of several different companies. From what I understand, Thai AirAsia has much better options for arranging a replacement plane if one breaks down, compared to other AirAsia branches. Like captainmick, I don’t recall any negative experiences, though I haven’t flown with AirAsia recently.

You can use the link under the video.

Yes sir! I love that place. I've done unspeakable things there in plain view. I never forget when my best friend came over (straight) and I took em to Windmill, which is now called Windmill 1. We had a seat just in front of a raised table. On the table there would always be two girls naked playing with weird things. Mostly things you can slap them with. That night was a wild night all around. Multiple people were having action in plain sight. As I said, that table is on eye or should I say tongue height. So if you move your head forward a little bit, you'll be licking carpet before you know it. Hahaha, that was a wild night. But I still go there often, never that crazy again, but a little bit playing is fun. And yeah, I cannot compare it with and boy bar that I ever been too. There is always a party atmosphere. Not to name names now, but when I enter some boy gogos, it just feels depressing. It took me some time to get yours Maurice LOL

A friend just told me that M bar was closed two days last week. He cannot tell me if it opened again after those two days. Anyone information about that? On the other hand, I did notice that the gogo bar next to Panorama in Boystown is open again. Might have nothing to do with each other but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

You’re right, digital platforms have given performers more power. They can now act as their own agents, set their own prices, and keep a lot of what they earn. For some that is an improvement compared to the bar model. But in a bars the content can be controlled, what's online is there forever. Also, only a small number of people make serious money from it. Most struggle to get noticed and many give up because it’s such a crowded scene. It’s a tough and very competitive. You can see the high turnover of new creators. I know that in lower-income countries, even small amounts can make a big difference, but it’s definitely not easy money. I'm a frequent visitor of Windmill, and there is no problem with mobile phones or cameras. No Thai men allowed either. Much saver for those who don't want the stigma of being a sex worker.

Hahaha, can I have one without the guardrails? The “Deep Seek AI” thread you linked shows forum users testing AI to profile fellow posters—producing elaborate, flattering analyses like the one about userxxxx If an AI produced unrestricted feedback instead, its tone would likely shift from reverent to evaluative: It might highlight biases or ego displays (“self-mythologizing through sociological language”). Note forum power dynamics (“a senior member reinforcing hierarchy via praise”). Flag emotional performance (“humor as armor, validation-seeking through mentorship”). Question credibility (“apparent wisdom built on anecdote”). In short: the unfiltered verdict would be more psychological, skeptical, and sometimes unflattering—less literary tribute, more character audit. Edit: I don’t mean to spoil anyone’s fun. I’m genuinely curious what it would sound like if the AI gave a completely unfiltered, brutally honest version about me. No flattery, no diplomacy, just 100% truth. I’d actually find that fascinating.

All my German cards can be locked. It takes me a few seconds to lock and unlock the card via the bank app. Then I have multiple cards linked to one account so I can bring 1 card and only put the money that I am planning to spend for the day. Each card is 10 Euros, but it gives peace of mind to discard cards, especially in situations that you mentioned. Is that not a US thing? An example of what I see in my app: It gives 4 options you can turn on/off or change. Cash withdrawal, pay in shops, pay online or pin.

Yes, the Disney show in Hong Kong was pretty amazing too. Crazy that it is every night.

I just read back some old posts and realised that I remembered certain events in the wrong order but the main points stand. So I also saw your post and the problems of travelling into Pattaya those evenings. So people should take that into consideration. I assume that travelling with a motorbike taxi would still be an option? I'm staying at the Grand Avenue again, just like last time so it is a short walk for me. Like last time, I'll probably have a drink after the show on a terrace in Boystown. Anyone who wants to come and say hi is welcome. Just send me a Dm. This is the link to the older thread:

I had to think where to post this. I was looking for a members only forum, but couldn't find a fitting place. Admin feel free to move it where you see fit. The video is in Dutch only, but I added an article link that I translated to English below the video. https://www-rtl-nl.translate.goog/nieuws/buitenland/artikel/5531387/nederlander-opgepakt-voor-ronselen-kinderen-thailand-na?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl&_x_tr_pto=wapp I would say that I have not seen this for many years. We all know how it used to be. People who might think that this is still at every street corner because of this video are mislead.

@neyger That report was 10 out of 10. Some real helpful nuggets it.