November 17, 20178 yr Ok. Does anyone believe the allegations against Fraken or are we all in agreement that it's a GOP plant?
November 17, 20178 yr He admitted it outright. Please try for at least a little seriousness in your discourse here. I know that goes against character, but Freud did give name to rhis thing the Reality Principle.
November 17, 20178 yr Author AdamSmith Didn't see where he admitted it. I'm reading French news sources which may be slightly behind.
November 17, 20178 yr Just now, BiBottomBoy said: AdamSmith Didn't see where he admitted it. I'm reading French news sources which may be slightly behind. CNN.com is not an obscure resource.
November 17, 20178 yr 5 minutes ago, BiBottomBoy said: I prefer Le Monde Yes, no quarrel. I only meant in re: accurate coverage of U.S. news, as you yourself said just above. Ye gods! French modes of ratiocination have sunk themselves into your own head!
November 17, 20178 yr Author It's just my go-to. I find it more accurate than any US source. CNN/The Times are the best America has to offer but can slip up at times. Le Monde tends to be fairly balanced.
November 17, 20178 yr Author The question is what do we do now. My first instinct is he should resign - but that gives the GOP a chance at a seat, which would be horrible. So I have no idea what the remedy is.
November 17, 20178 yr 17 minutes ago, BiBottomBoy said: The question is what do we do now. My first instinct is he should resign - but that gives the GOP a chance at a seat, which would be horrible. So I have no idea what the remedy is. These are the type of effective remedies.
November 17, 20178 yr 1 minute ago, BiBottomBoy said: You want Muller to go after Franken? It would be interesting and corrective, wouldn't it?
November 17, 20178 yr If we are going to go after Franken, we need to go after every one of them. He fucked up. He admits it. He was a comic.
November 17, 20178 yr Just now, MsAnn said: There are degrees here...Child molesters first. Yes, and we need to have some limitations on comedy, time frames, etc. Hell, if every bartender in NYC that I tried to take to my apartment said I harassed them, I'm afraid I'd be in trouble for years.
November 17, 20178 yr Author MsAnn Totally agree. That said - what is a child? I mean Spacey and Moore are pretty similar - but I think most of us would be likely to give Spacey a pass and not Moore.
November 17, 20178 yr 30 minutes ago, TotallyOz said: Yes, and we need to have some limitations on comedy, time frames, etc. Hell, if every bartender in NYC that I tried to take to my apartment said I harassed them, I'm afraid I'd be in trouble for years. 'I resemble that remark!'
November 17, 20178 yr I have to look at things currently and I also have to look to see change. I don't see that in Spacey as he has been consistent it seems. I don't forgive Roy Moore as he was taking advantage of those underage and in a position of power.
November 17, 20178 yr Active Members Who were those underage and in a position of power? The statement above that I most agree with is we go after all of them. Best regards, RA1
November 17, 20178 yr Active Members So many of these are old allegations where the person has not repeated the behavior as he aged. Those folks should get amnesty. We are going to tear society apart with all of these allegations, many of which cannot be proven or disproved. I'd say events in the last ten years where there is serious proof should go forward, the rest of them, well, you waited too long to say anything.
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