Bottoming in Sub-Saharan Africa

[syyyz]

Hi everyone 👋

I’m a 26 yo white boy I wanted to ask if anyone had tried to travel to bottom in sub-saharan Africa ?

Personally I would like to travel in Ivory Coast, DRC or Congo-Brazzaville, Central African Rep. or any other countries that you suggest
 

[KeepItReal]

11 hours ago, syyyz said:

Hi everyone 👋

I’m a 26 yo white boy I wanted to ask if anyone had tried to travel to bottom in sub-saharan Africa ?

Personally I would like to travel in Ivory Coast, DRC or Congo-Brazzaville, Central African Rep. or any other countries that you suggest
 

You are adventurous. I have traveled extensively but only in relatively gay tolerant locations like South Africa, Namibia and Botswana.  So I would advise caution - the countries you list are not gay tolerant and you are likely to get yourself hurt.

[syyyz]

Oh seriously ?? I didn't know that the countries that I have quoted were not gay tolerant locations. Because I have searched & looked a gay rights map in Africa then I saw that in thoose countries there were no legislation about homosexuality.

How were South Africa, Namibia & Botswana ? 

Thanks for you advice ! 

[Arabcreamer]

I’m doing Capetown, Johannesburg, Dar es Salaam, Maputo (if things calm down) and Lagos in March. I won’t give any details but I’m pretty fucking excited, it has required ALOT of planning, talking and sifting through a plethora of guys (roughly around 6 months so far establishing links and communications). I’ll put a report here of my marathon when I come back. 

[xpaulo]

On 1/8/2025 at 5:07 PM, Arabcreamer said:

Lagos in March.

I've been watching a lot of Nigerian porn and there's gay stuff. What's interesting to me is the amount of touching between men in the straight porn. From a guy in a threesome reaching over to put the other guy's dick back in the woman to full on sex. There's a lot of stroking the other guy's butt cheeks suggesting to me there's a lot more anal going on between Nigerian men than I would of thought. A mostly straight male escort told me once there's no difference fucking a girl's ass and a guy's ass. So much so he stopped anal with women because it reminded him too much of work. I should add though there seems to be less of the bi-ish stuff in the porn which is too bad.

[Canadianbtmguy]

We leave for a trip next week (thanks to ANA's now defunct around the world awards) that starts off innocently enough in Australia, but then continues on to Johannesburg, Cape Town (both of which I have been to about 6-7 years ago with pretty good success with free guys from Grindr, although granted, I was 6-7 years younger haha). That was the easy obvious choice. The question was, where to next? My criteria were safe in general, safe for gay people, and not miserably hot. (Although Nigeria was where I most wanted to go--after a guy I had met in Cape Town had responded to my compliment of the thickness of his dick and said "Well, thank you, but it's not like I'm Nigerian or something!"--it met none of my criteria). Finally, I decided on Maputo (although I later realized the guide I had bought, which extolled its safety, was published in 2011!); Kigali (definitely the safest of the 3, although I am getting worried that my husband is trying to hijack our time there to go see the gorillas...) and finally, gulp, Abidjan (basically as close to Nigeria as I could get; Accra was a runner-up, but it seems that there is a lot of anti-gay agitation currently, whereas Abidjan is merely becoming more unsafe for everyone). But yes, like the OP, I do give a slight edge on the sexy scale to West Africans so I did want to include one spot there.

I did notice recently that Senegal is at Level 1 in the State Department's risk rankings (most of western Europe is in level 2, same as Cote d'Ivoire, huh?) but maybe it was unsafe for gay people? Anyways, no regrets and more importantly, changes not allowed on the tickets, so....we'll see. If anyone has any suggestions about any of these (particularly things I should do in the next week before leaving) let me know, either here or by message (I got my yellow fever vaccine last time I was in Brazil) Speaking of which...after a brief stop in Europe the trip ends in SP, a sort of insurance.

[Canadianbtmguy]

First stop was South Africa, kind of a subsaharan Africa “lite” (the same way that Türkiye is Middle East “lite”) I arrived in Johannesburg 24 hours before my husband and I imagined one after the other. In the morning I arrived at my hotel around 8 am and while I was waiting for them to make up my room there were at least 4 guys (free, from Grindr, both black and white) eager to come over. When I got my room around 9, I figured this was a marathon not a sprint and so I gave in to the temptation to sleep, until around 12. None of the guys from earlier were online and no one seemed keen. Regrettably I seemed to have some deep tiredness (despite taking an Adderall). It was also atypically chilly and the bed so comfortable I often got under the covers. I would nod off in the middle of writing a Grindr message, and most of the afternoon and evening I spent that way. What a waste.

I would have to say that compared to say, Brazil, it seems very few South Africans workout at all. They also seem rather short, and seeing a profile below 5 feet is not unusual. After my husband arrived I didn’t have much time alone (I recommend the workers museum and the Africa museum, which are across the street from each other and off the beaten path) I met a couple of guys from from Grindr but they were quite forgettable (except that one had only about 5”, I don’t know how I let that slip through…) There are a few guys with great bodies, but they are charging (up to 3000rand/200usd with condom and 6000rand condomless; likely I suffered from a foreigners surcharge even tho I used my Brazilian WhatsApp.) These were from rentmen, surprisingly hunqz did not seem in use, and the ones that were charging on Grindr (as low as 200 Rand) didn’t seem to be worth paying for. I should note that at least the ones that otherswise attracted me on rentmen were mid-late 30s, although said to be 6’6”. With one exception not especially friendly on WhatsApp. I thought I might have time to meet one the last day but I didn’t. Left the next day for the wildly colorful spring wildflower bloom in Namaqualand, which is very far 4-7 hours from CapeTown (or any other airport) but a sight to behold. This pic was from a nearly all-black mining town, in which nearly everyone greeted us with a wave or a hello!

 

En route now to Maputo where I am hoping the real fun begins. The first two days are forecast to be an unseasonable heatwave and while my heat-tolerant husband is out exploring,I expect to stay inside exploring.

[Canadianbtmguy]

In short, Maputo was a weird disaster. I have to keep telling myself that this is a trip animated by FOMO and so, in a way, it’s a good thing that it doesn’t work out. 

So, the guys I met were from Grindr, neither with any mention of money in advance. The first one, after an ok but rather brief and forgettable sex, demanded, not asked, for taxi fare home (there’s no Uber) in the amount of 1000 metecais (I think $15usd). I repeatedly explained that my husband had the money because he was out and so I did not have any there (I did have some but there was no way to get it discreetly to avoid opening the question of more.) Finally, I think it was he who hit on the idea of borrowing it from reception (although by that time he wanted twice as much) It all seemed a ruse, since the taxi from the airport was less than $2. But the guy at reception, who was very good natured and open minded, when I mentioned the 1000, he said maybe he does need 1500 because it’s far, I kept the lid on it at 1000, and off he went with a taxi driver loitering in the lobby (the minimum wage is something like 200 metecais a day, he would’ve been much smarter to take a minibus home rather than splurging on a taxi. Distasteful enough but not awful. 

The second one with fake pics and (later revealed) fake dick size arrived about an hour later. As a footnote, no one fills out their profile ( not least  height, which is important to me) and nearly all use disappearing pictures, so that you have extremely little idea who will show up. After the first one, I had resolved to ask them about money when they show up but it seemed preposterous that he could want much if anything. He wanted to enlist his friend too, which I suggested (falsely) that we save for tomorrow and shortly after he got his pants off and had trouble getting hard I suggested how much fun we could all have tomorrow. After he dressed he made outrageous demands ranging from 100-500 usd. In anticipation that whoever showed up might want taxi money I had in my pocket 5 euros, 20 reais and a bunch of 2 reais. He deserved absolutely nothing, but I had dropped the 20 reais somehow so I gave him that money and tried to get him to leave. He blocked my exit from the bedroom (it was an aparthotel with a bedroom) and soon we were wrestling, me trying to escape and him trying to prevent it. In what seemed like a full 10 minutes, I finally was able to open the bedroom door, though having won that battle, I think he was exhausted—not that I wasn’t—and I reached the front door within two minutes, and I was able to call for help. The same guy from reception talked to him, and about the same time my husband returned, angry that he would not leave. The receptionist returned with 2 security guards wearing bulletproof vests. He claimed that he was a “sex worker” and I had agreed to pay him; In the meantime he had blocked me on Grindr, preventing access to evidence contrary to his claims that I had agreed to pay him. The receptionist/diplomat tried to deescalate the situation and told me if I gave him 1000 metecais he would leave. I so would have rather given it to someone hardworking and honest, being a very large sum there, but we all wanted him out of there. 
 

Afterwards, in repaying the receptionist the 1000 metecais for the first guy, we gave him a second one, as well as a beautiful fruit plate I prepared and a bottle of South African wine that my husband found empty the next day. 

Any suggestions on how I might deal with/ prevent this situation in my remaining destinations are welcome. One is to ask the guy in advance (in a nonjudgmental way) if he is seeking money (although the answer above suggests a gray area); another is to have my husband secretly around in case trouble develops, (although he’s not going to be thrilled at doing that)

I was pretty demoralized after that and the only way I could really continue was with my husband secretly present so I raised my standards basically impossibly high. At the same time, in other respects, we were learning that, although the country is remarkably safe, everyone is scamming. Even the toll taker tried to scam our driver—and that’s just one of at least 10 we fell into in just 5 days. I did not meet anyone else. 

 

Ps. The second guy mistook the 20 reais for 20 euros—that was the only fun part of that story, when he realizes that his total take is only about half what he thought it was….

 

Incidentally here’s what a couple of guys said about what happened:

 

São assim mesmo esses

Ta cheio de vagabundo por aí

Nao tô preocupado com dinheiro não!!

Mas se quiser ajudar aceito

(Basically that sucks what happened, I’m not seeking money, but….if you decide to help, I accept) 

 

Mau isso

Fizeram isso por ver a cor da sua pele

Vce estava com ladrões 

Eu não estou a procura de dinheiro..

Para ter dinheiro trabalho 

Sexo n é por dinheiro 

(Stronger: that’s bad, they did it bc of the color of your skin , you were with thieves, I don’t seek money, to have money I work, sex is not for money) 

[donJ]

Well there are definitely the kinds of obscure places for an American that I'm curious about, and kinda went how you'd expect. How old are you if you dont mind me asking? The second attempt at a hookup ending with me wrestling the guy around the floor might deter me from trying again, but then again you're only in Mozambique once lol

[KeepItReal]

On 9/4/2025 at 9:47 AM, Canadianbtmguy said:

 

I would have to say that compared to say, Brazil, it seems very few South Africans workout at all. They also seem rather short, and seeing a profile below 5 feet is not unusual.

I am not sure I agree with your assessment. That is an interesting perspective. To refresh my memory I used Grindr and looked at Sao Paulo vs Johannesburg.  Will agree that there are more "boy next door" types in Johannesburg, but both locations had all shapes and sizes...at least when using my default settings which is for Bottoms between age 28 and 50 and online now.  Now I want to visit Johannesburg, Capetown and Durban again!