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8 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Looks like the Gay Forums very own MAGA menace "press secretary "Bucky Leavitt" is back, hard at work for Dictator Taco Don, posting 10 times consecutively in a short period of time.   His old and tired modus operandi of cherry picked and edited Tik Tok clips are working overtime to make Taco look strong, successful and in control.   Its just more of the old bullshit created to irritate US and the leftys, and spread the Taco's propaganda.

There must be a ton of this shit coming our way ?   It does every time Taco Don scores SCOTUS wins, and Ms Bucky Leavitt did had a long "hianus"  to prepare for her comeback ! 

Bucky may believe he's "propping up the Pres"   but all he's doing is "shoveling his SHIT".....   The actions of a stacked right wing court prove NOTHING but that THEY ARE CORRUPT AND COMPLICIT...  And Taco Don is still an Insane, racist, lying crook !  

Have fun Bucky...

 

Well, sorry.   I'm now just gonna have to fuck things up.

I know the rules here.   When Bucky is barking, we're supposed to do one of two things:   1)  Say something funny and stupid, or 2)  Say something stupid and fact free.

So I'm going for boring facts instead.  I know, I know.  I always fuck things up.

I do watch some of the Tik Toks.  And I find them kind of educational.  Kind of like eating feces educates me on what I don't consider a tasty part of my diet. 

I've never actually ingested Trump's semen, like NATO is doing now with their grand public Trump cock sucking.  But I imagine it has the same effect.

Behind Trump’s 2024 Victory, a More Racially and Ethnically Diverse Voter Coalition

So what this made me think about is that Pew just came out with a new voter study a few days ago.  No real news.  But it further confirms what a lot of good boring analysts have come up with already.

The part that involves Tik Tok is this:

In fact, as that chart shows, if more nonvoters voted it probably would have helped Biden win by more in 2020, and Trump win by more in 2024.  No shocker, since the nonvoters are all over the map.  But they tend to be the kind of people who watch Tik Tok videos and pretty much get their political perspectives from that.  Who cares if any of it is true?  Trump sure doesn't.  He loves Tik Tok now.

This handwriting was on the wall last Fall when the annual youth voter survey John Della Volpe does came out.  The less young people were likely to vote, and the more turned off they were by politics, they more likely they were to favor Trump.  So somehow he got enough of them to vote.  Thank Tik Tok, Joe Rogan, and the Nelk Boys.  Trump did.

The question for 2028 is whether this problem solves itself.  This is the crowd that elected Biden in 2020.  But then they got big spikes in rent, big inflation, lockdowns, and all kinds of nasty shit they didn't like.  And toxic masculinity.    I don't really think Tik Tok did a thorough job of analyzing any of the things I just mentioned.  But they did play to the idea that shit sucks.  And Trump is bad ass.   

That only takes Trump so far when it comes to actually governing, as his mounting disapproval ratings show.  The Tik Tok crowd could easily flip again by 2028.  Or, maybe Democrats will get better at social media, as some guy who just won a primary for Mayor of NYC proved is possible. 

 

 

Being a democratic socialist turns out to be bad ass, too.  So Trump better not count on ignorance.  Although, if we are strictly dealing with facts, what else has he actually got going for him?  🤔

Although the really funny part is our barking dog just loves to eat shit, anyway.  I think it makes him feel bad ass.

I find that pretty hilarious.  😋

 

 

 

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I know this isn't really a political laugh but I'm going to share it anyway 🤣

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1 hour ago, stevenkesslar said:

 

Well, sorry.   I'm now just gonna have to fuck things up.

I know the rules here.   When Bucky is barking, we're supposed to do one of two things:   1)  Say something funny and stupid, or 2)  Say something stupid and fact free.

So I'm going for boring facts instead.  I know, I know.  I always fuck things up.

I do watch some of the Tik Toks.  And I find them kind of educational.  Kind of like eating feces educates me on what I don't consider a tasty part of my diet. 

I've never actually ingested Trump's semen, like NATO is doing now with their grand public Trump cock sucking.  But I imagine it has the same effect.

Behind Trump’s 2024 Victory, a More Racially and Ethnically Diverse Voter Coalition

So what this made me think about is that Pew just came out with a new voter study a few days ago.  No real news.  But it further confirms what a lot of good boring analysts have come up with already.

The part that involves Tik Tok is this:

In fact, as that chart shows, if more nonvoters voted it probably would have helped Biden win by more in 2020, and Trump win by more in 2024.  No shocker, since the nonvoters are all over the map.  But they tend to be the kind of people who watch Tik Tok videos and pretty much get their political perspectives from that.  Who cares if any of it is true?  Trump sure doesn't.  He loves Tik Tok now.

This handwriting was on the wall last Fall when the annual youth voter survey John Della Volpe does came out.  The less young people were likely to vote, and the more turned off they were by politics, they more likely they were to favor Trump.  So somehow he got enough of them to vote.  Thank Tik Tok, Joe Rogan, and the Nelk Boys.  Trump did.

The question for 2028 is whether this problem solves itself.  This is the crowd that elected Biden in 2020.  But then they got big spikes in rent, big inflation, lockdowns, and all kinds of nasty shit they didn't like.  And toxic masculinity.    I don't really think Tik Tok did a thorough job of analyzing any of the things I just mentioned.  But they did play to the idea that shit sucks.  And Trump is bad ass.   

That only takes Trump so far when it comes to actually governing, as his mounting disapproval ratings show.  The Tik Tok crowd could easily flip again by 2028.  Or, maybe Democrats will get better at social media, as some guy who just won a primary for Mayor of NYC proved is possible. 

 

 

Being a democratic socialist turns out to be bad ass, too.  So Trump better not count on ignorance.  Although, if we are strictly dealing with facts, what else has he actually got going for him?  🤔

Although the really funny part is our barking dog just loves to eat shit, anyway.  I think it makes him feel bad ass.

I find that pretty hilarious.  😋

 

 

 

@stevenkesslar Sorry if you already covered this ground, but of my nieces and nephews, I got the sense they were weary of the same "old" politicians, such as Biden, and that young voters aren't focused on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

Is the above part of why they didn't vote last cycle? 

You hear a lot of ideas from your young Republican relatives, so am wondering how that impacts your prognosis for upcoming cycles.

My fear is that some voters have given up, while others remain easily hoodwinked by what appears to be a "new" approach.   

Joni Ernst ran on "change", how she'd make the hogs squeal, cutting all that pork.  She ended up accepting $ millions from the NRA. 

Trump trumpeted he would drain the swamp and run the Government successfully, like the businessman he is.  But he is the biggest grifter of all.  This term he's obviously leaving no money on the table. 

An economics teacher once told my class that dictators survive until they get too greedy.  Perhaps that angle will trickle down into voting patterns.  Or perhaps, as you mention, Democrats will play a better game of social media influence.

I am aghast how many Latino voters supported Trump.  Perhaps my rejection of their choice to vote for 🍊 is part of the big blind spot Democrats suffer.  What do we miss?   How do Dems form a winning campaign?

I'm already hearing some of the never-Trumper ex-GOP vloggers that I follow whine about Zohran Mamdani.  Obviously the MAGA crowd is stirring up a bunch of 💩 about him.  Makes me wonder if he is viable.

His youth and handsome looks help, IMO.  Yet, I worry is he another candidate that smells fresh but will soon sour in office.

Mamdani is an awfully nice guy.  But I look at Mayor Brandon Johnson, how his poll numbers have dropped.  Trump as well as corporate media have not been kind to Mayor Johnson.  I expect Mamdani will have a tough time. 

 

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How, when Stormy tried.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Pete1111 said:

You hear a lot of ideas from your young Republican relatives, so am wondering how that impacts your prognosis for upcoming cycles.

My fear is that some voters have given up, while others remain easily hoodwinked by what appears to be a "new" approach.   

Actually, they are not that young.   The nieces and nephews that are the most Republican are the oldest ones, who are Gen X.  That fits with that generation.  The theory is they grew up under sunny Reagan optimism.  For whatever reason, Gen X is and has been Trump's most solid supporters for a decade.

Since older people tend to vote more, what I do wonder is whether Gen X will become marginally more powerful.  Simply because as they age they are more likely to vote than younger generations who are at least somewhat less conservative. The people I'm talking about are now about 50ish.  So they have lots of solid Republican voting years still ahead of them.

What I bitch and moan about to my youngest nieces and nephews (Millennials mostly) is their cynicism.   Their rap is that maybe government worked well when Reagan or Clinton ran things.  But that was so 20th century.  They feel they got 9/11, the global financial crisis, COVID, and all kinds of nasty shit.  

I think it's a crock of shit, personally.  My Dad's generation got World War II.  My older siblings got Viet Nam.  So what my Millennial nieces and nephews have had to go through is basically nothing like that.  And they are representative of their generations:  Gen X is better off than Boomers at the same age, Millennials are better off than Gen X at the same age, and now Zoomers are better off than Millennials at the same age.  Nobody in my family is hurting. 

So I don't think the problem is that things really suck bad for middle class (mostly suburban) America.  I think the problem is young people tend to be cynical.  Then again, the young people who just handed the primary to a democratic socialist in NYC are hardly cynical.  So what the fuck do I know?   But there are a lot of cynical young people who Democrats maybe thought they could count on who helped elect Trump in 2024.

8 hours ago, Pete1111 said:

I am aghast how many Latino voters supported Trump.  Perhaps my rejection of their choice to vote for 🍊 is part of the big blind spot Democrats suffer.  What do we miss?   How do Dems form a winning campaign?

I'm not sure I buy that.  It is a fact that Trump got a higher percentage Latino vote than he did in 2020 or 2016.  So maybe there is a working class realignment to Republicans.  I definitely buy the argument that lots of working class Latinos are culturally centrist.  And they think woke Latinx bullshit is out of touch to their needs.  It's the economy, stupid.

But mostly what happened in 2024 was inflation and high rent and high mortgage rates led to a strong working class reaction that is not necessarily an endorsement of Trump or MAGA. 

Before Harris, the POTUS to win the lowest percentage of the Latino vote was Jimmy Carter in 1980.  Another election driven by inflation.  Different pollsters put different numbers on the share of Latinos Harris got.  But Carter and Harris both seem to have gotten somewhere in the low 50's of the Latino vote.  In both elections lots of working class Latinos were pissed about prices. 

So, like in 1980, this may be a low water mark for how bad things can get for Democrats with Latinos.  And in 1980, Democrats did get clobbered horribly.  2024 was a close race.  So if the needle moves back, it would not take a lot for a Latino Democrat like Ruben Gallego, who is my poster child for how to be an effective coalition building working class Latino guy, to win in 2028.

Speaking of Latinos, Pew also did a new study of the image of the US around the world in the era of Trump and tariffs.  Who'd have guessed the image of the US has declined?  What a shocker!

U.S. Image Declines in Many Nations Amid Low Confidence in Trump

What jumped out at me in this chart is how wildly unpopular Trump is in Mexico right now.  It is off the charts.  91 % no confidence in our cabron.  More than any other country.  But, hey, Bibi the Butcher likes Trump.  Surely that counts for something.

Somehow, Mexico has managed to have the successful left-wing version of economic populism that Bernie Sanders and friends tried to bring to America.  And failed.  We got the right-wing version instead.  My guess is that some of it is that Mexico actually is more working class than the US.  But I think a lot of it is leadership.  The MAGA folks love Trump just as much as the working class in Mexico loves AMLO and his movement.  Not coincidentally, both AMLO and Trump play hard to the centrist - and sometimes conservative - sensibilities of these working class voters.

So the big job for Democrats, in my view, is not to blame Latinos or figure out what is wrong with them.  The big job for Democrats is to figure out how we fucked up.  While a huge working class movement that has made life better for the Latino working class in Mexico swept to power.  And is wildly popular.  And apparently  hates our MAGA pendejo more than anyone else on the planet!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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