Canada vs. USA

[bucknaway]

[bucknaway]

[RockyRoadTravel]

On 3/2/2025 at 12:45 PM, bucknaway said:

It's going to be interesting to see how everything with Canada plays out. Although I know America will come out on top but I'm hoping that Trump gives them a deal they can feel good about 😇

Hopefully Canada figures out a way to wrest themselves free of Trump's vengeful incompetence.  

[Pete1111]

Is it a sad lesson learned by Mexico and Canada, that we are not the same neighbor they counted on in the past? 

Frankly, one might ask a similar question about the rest of our historical friends and allies.

Perhaps we've all heard from friends in other countries wondering what's going on.

Clearly, the damage is done.

At least our large protests inspire hope that we might successfully push back, and even encourage others to march against autocrats elsewhere.  I saw news of the Pride march in Budapest that drew 100,000, though Orban had banned it.

I hope someday we can build new bridges.  I wonder how.   I hesitate to trust politicians in DC to figure out where to begin.

[stevenkesslar]

3 hours ago, Pete1111 said:

Is it a sad lesson learned by Mexico and Canada, that we are not the same neighbor they counted on in the past? 

Frankly, one might ask a similar question about the rest of our historical friends and allies.

Perhaps we've all heard from friends in other countries wondering what's going on.

Clearly, the damage is done.

At least our large protests inspire hope that we might successfully push back, and even encourage others to march against autocrats elsewhere.  I saw news of the Pride march in Budapest that drew 100,000, though Orban had banned it.

I hope someday we can build new bridges.  I wonder how.   I hesitate to trust politicians in DC to figure out where to begin.

This is mostly repeating one of my greatest hits I have posted elsewhere.

As far as Mexico goes, I now think there is a KISS principle involved here.  Are we too stupid and arrogant and gringo to learn from them?  As I said in a recent post Pew just found that 90 % of Mexicans give Trump's America a vote of no confidence.  America's image is declining in most of the world.  But Mexico is the off the charts leader of that. 

So I think it destroys this theory that there is maybe something about Latinos or Mexican Americans or whatever that draws them to Trump.  The ones who live in Mexico simply think he is an asshole.  And my interpretation of this fact is they have a wildly popular political model and a wildly popular leader that is all based around one question.  To oversimplify:  how do we help the Mexican working class? 

So if Democrats can learn from that, it is a model that arguably could work here.  I would love the irony of that.  Deport Mexicans, import their political model, kick Trump's ass, and help the US working class.  Works for me.

Meanwhile, the one thing I hope we can count on Trump for is to not start another Iraq War, like Bush did.  At first it seemed like Trump could at least do that much.  After he decided to bomb Iran, now we have to worry whether he will fuck that up , too. 

Just what America needs after abandoning Ukraine.  Another forever war, but one Trump can call his own.

As you said.  Clearly, the damage is done.  Putin must be thrilled.