Brazil visa problems

[xpaulo]

Hello... I skimmed through some previous posts, but haven't seen this one. I'm filling out the e-visa  application and they say the exact dates of my last arrival and departure are mandatory and the one previous to that as well. My last trip was in June, 2014 for the World Cup, but my email account only goes back to 2017. Bank and credit cards even, and wouldn't have exact dates anyway. Has anyone else been in this situation. I tried calling the company with the visa contract, the woman kept saying she couldn't hear me, while a man was shouting loudly very close to her and then she hang up, then wouldn't take anymore calls from my number.

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[Xclay]

Wouldn't your credit card record show when you checked out of the last hotel? So at least one date would be exact.

In any event, I would be surprised if the current Brazilian system is electronically integrated with records from 11 years ago.

[xpaulo]

My online records go back to 2017, but I can call tomorrow to see if they can find the records. Trying Air Canada would be a lost cause. I am trying Expedia too, they may have booked it. 

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, Xclay said:

In any event, I would be surprised if the current Brazilian system is electronically integrated with records from 11 years ago.

I would agree.... I'd put a rough date, it's all about collecting the money in the end.

[xpaulo]

I think the chances of getting those dates are very slim so that would be the only way. 

[Mavica]

I put in a rough date and that worked for my application.

[buttnovice]

check the entry and exit stamps on your passport

[BobBudenbender]

Has anyone gone through with getting a temporary visa? They are good for two years, but I have found a lot of work to get its not an online thing. Would appreciate knowing if anyone has had experience with that? Thanks

[Connordrick]

In the topic of the Visa, did anyone have a new passport and need to bring their old passport along with the visa printout?

This is not a straightforward answer,  it’s quite frustrating. Some people mentioned that if the visa was stamped in the passport, but that’s not the case for me. I have to print it. Since it’s only a year old, not many of us may have encountered this issue. Anyone has experienced this ?

I hope I don’t have to reapply again. I won’t be traveling to Brazil until March or April.

I may have to email them is not a FAQ in any page

[Latbear4blk]

1 hour ago, Connordrick said:

In the topic of the Visa, did anyone have a new passport and need to bring their old passport along with the visa printout?

This is not a straightforward answer,  it’s quite frustrating. Some people mentioned that if the visa was stamped in the passport, but that’s not the case for me. I have to print it. Since it’s only a year old, not many of us may have encountered this issue. Anyone has experienced this ?

I hope I don’t have to reapply again. I won’t be traveling to Brazil until March or April.

I may have to email them is not a FAQ in any page

Did you try asking an AI? ChatGPT and Gemini are quite good for these things.

[Riobard]

2 hours ago, Connordrick said:

In the topic of the Visa, did anyone have a new passport and need to bring their old passport along with the visa printout?

This is not a straightforward answer,  it’s quite frustrating. Some people mentioned that if the visa was stamped in the passport, but that’s not the case for me. I have to print it. Since it’s only a year old, not many of us may have encountered this issue. Anyone has experienced this ?

I hope I don’t have to reapply again. I won’t be traveling to Brazil until March or April.

I may have to email them is not a FAQ in any page

You may have already quickly obtained this answer. It’s been clear right from the launch.

Obviously what is meant in the second sentence, as the visa is not physically contained within one’s passport, is that the passport number on your e-visa corresponds to your travel document, that is, the expired one. Many folks will eventually come up against this with a proportion of them having unwittingly discarded a document that should actually have been hoarded. I expect that they would need to re-apply. 

Also note, not applicable in your case, that the travel document (ie, passport) must have a commencement date at least a month before arrival, whether it’s the passport corresponding to your e-visa or a renewed passport presented along with the expired passport. 

The VFS portal stipulates that passport validity must endure for at least one month following arrival. I would not trust this piece of information since one’s visit may be up to 90 days, and for other options of visa acquisition the wording on Brazil’s various government sites ranges from required passport validity for total duration of stay or for 6 months following arrival. An imminently expiring passport may result in the immigration officer writing in the entry a ‘leave by’ date that inadvertently truncates one’s planned visit duration.

[Connordrick]

17 hours ago, Riobard said:

You may have already quickly obtained this answer. It’s been clear right from the launch.

Obviously what is meant in the second sentence, as the visa is not physically contained within one’s passport, is that the passport number on your e-visa corresponds to your travel document, that is, the expired one. Many folks will eventually come up against this with a proportion of them having unwittingly discarded a document that should actually have been hoarded. I expect that they would need to re-apply. 

Also note, not applicable in your case, that the travel document (ie, passport) must have a commencement date at least a month before arrival, whether it’s the passport corresponding to your e-visa or a renewed passport presented along with the expired passport. 

The VFS portal stipulates that passport validity must endure for at least one month following arrival. I would not trust this piece of information since one’s visit may be up to 90 days, and for other options of visa acquisition the wording on Brazil’s various government sites ranges from required passport validity for total duration of stay or for 6 months following arrival. An imminently expiring passport may result in the immigration officer writing in the entry a ‘leave by’ date that inadvertently truncates one’s planned visit duration.

Thanks.glad I can keep using it. Bring my old passport it shouldn’t be an issue. 

[Riobard]

If one is a frequent visitor the multiple arrival and departure dates according to one’s migratory year date setpoint may be a bit too much for passport control to cobble together at point of inspection.  Again, it is possible to unambiguously ascertain for oneself one’s exact 365 day period within which one should technically be granted a cumulative visit quantity of 90 days. 

But pay close attention to your history and the stamps. Upon my latest arrival in the fourth quarter of last year the officer indicated a new migratory year commencement date that essentially nullified a balance of 20 days that I should have been able to maintain according to that active (now previous) migratory year. It was certainly not intentionally rigid or overly strict, as in good faith she just quickly examined the visa and stamped the passport.

I had expected a balance of 110 days as the migratory year reset was to have occurred mid-visit. I had diligently added and tallied my used up period in the event I was to have been grilled. But no, she swept me through, stamping it and wrote in 90 days. Note that it was not my first rodeo on the new e-visa.

It is now imperative to ensure that I don’t exceed 90 days from the date of that most recent arrival. I had tentatively planned to use those 110 days through end of 2025 and well into 2026, split up into moderately extended visits but had not committed to booking all the upcoming trips simply because it is typically not necessary to do that so much in advance, so I will need to adjust plans. I suppose that I would have possibly appealed on the spot if it meant that I was about to endure sunk cost issues. Of course it is possible that within the current migratory year my passport will be stamped once again with 90 days allocated, in which case I may recover the lost days or possibly more. 

Caveat emptor.