PeterRS Posted Saturday at 09:35 AM Posted Saturday at 09:35 AM My guess is this was bound to happen. After their utter incompetence destroyed a Chernobyl reactor, the Russians pathetic attempt to build a sarcophagus over the zone had a declared lifespan of just 30 years. Several countries thereafter contributed to a new durable US$1.5 billion shield whch was placed in position in 2019. In February a Russian drone strike hit the shield. An inspection of the confinement structure by the International Atomic Energy Commission last week has now confirmed that the shield can no longer block radiation leaks and requires major repairs. Russia obviously should pay for these, but expecting Putin to come up with the cash is as likely as Mickey Mouse launching a nuclear missile. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/06/chornobyl-disaster-shelter-no-longer-blocks-radiation-and-needs-major-repair-iaea Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Moses Posted Saturday at 09:48 AM Posted Saturday at 09:48 AM 30 minutes ago, PeterRS said: the Russians pathetic attempt Ukrainian pathetic attempt, dear, Ukrainian. And due famous Ukrainian corruption, construction of shield took 30 years. And these 30 years radiation was leaking. Quote
Moses Posted Saturday at 09:59 AM Posted Saturday at 09:59 AM 31 minutes ago, PeterRS said: Russia obviously should pay for these As usual British "highly likely". Since drone's attack in February 2025 till now left 10 months. And still no even single evidence what it was Russian drone. The shelling of the Zaporozhie Nuclear Power Plant has been going on for the fourth year now. And for the fourth year, the West and Ukraine claim that Russia is doing the shelling. It's so logical, isn't it – to shoot at yourself? Of course, it's the Russian devils who are doing the shooting; how could Ukrainian angels possibly shoot? It's impossible to even imagine such a thing. Quote
PeterRS Posted Saturday at 01:06 PM Author Posted Saturday at 01:06 PM There is no point even responding to @Moses specific points because they are all a load of Russian propaganda rubbish. If the Chernobyl Russian engineers had not totally fucked their so-called safety test in their flawed nuclear reactor design, the world would not have suffered from the massive release of radiation, many Soviet citizens would not have died horrible deaths and the world would be a safer place. End of story! Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Moses Posted Saturday at 06:21 PM Posted Saturday at 06:21 PM 5 hours ago, PeterRS said: a load of Russian propaganda rubbish. Oh, yes? Disaster in 1989, shield's construction finished in 2019. Wanna to discuss reasons? Quote
khaolakguy Posted Saturday at 07:16 PM Posted Saturday at 07:16 PM Who would waste their breath. You are just a paid putin parrot. unicorn, Ruthrieston, Pete1111 and 1 other 4 Quote
vinapu Posted Saturday at 09:10 PM Posted Saturday at 09:10 PM 11 hours ago, Moses said: Of course, it's the Russian devils who are doing the shooting; how could Ukrainian angels possibly shoot? It's impossible to even imagine such a thing. finally you came to your senses Ruthrieston and PeterRS 1 1 Quote
vinapu Posted Saturday at 09:12 PM Posted Saturday at 09:12 PM 2 hours ago, Moses said: Oh, yes? Disaster in 1989, shield's construction finished in 2019. Wanna to discuss reasons? 1986, I know when I was in Novosibirsk Quote
PeterRS Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM Author Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM 9 hours ago, Moses said: Oh, yes? Disaster in 1989, shield's construction finished in 2019. Wanna to discuss reasons? I will discuss the reasons if you will discuss why it was that Russia built a Mickey Mouse nuclear reactor at Chernobyl, why it was that Russian officials' cavalier safety culture in Russian reactors then fucked up a simple test and released vast quantities of radiation into the world's air, why it had to evacuate hundreds of thousands, and why thousands, if not many tens of thousands or more, died of radiation poisoning. Even today, people are still dying from the effect of that disaster. That said I take nothing away from the heroism of the Russian first responders, particularly those who entered the blast zone, the firefighters and especially the helicopter pilots, most of whom paid with their lives. The Russian Academy of Sciences estimated that as many as 830,000 were involved as part of the "clean up " teams and that between 112,000 and 125,000 of these had died by 2005. Evidence hidden in Russian hospitals as far away as Moscow and subsequently discovered showed that 40,000 were hospitalised in the summer after the explosion, many women and children. @Moses will inevitably dispute all this - as he always does. So why were six major officials from Chernobyl jailed in labour camps folllowing the disaster? Why was the test at Chernobyl being carried out when it had previously been tried at other Russian reactors when every test had failed? The fact was the operators of the test were not briefed on aspects of nuclear safety which would have enabled them to shut own the test before the catastrophe. Normally for other posters i would add, over to you @Moses. But we know you will claim these are all lies so I have answered for you. Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Moses Posted yesterday at 07:15 AM Posted yesterday at 07:15 AM Do we discussing reasons of Chernobyl, or we discussing shield which corrupted Ukraine finished "just" in 30+ years? Quote
PeterRS Posted yesterday at 10:47 AM Author Posted yesterday at 10:47 AM 3 hours ago, Moses said: Do we discussing reasons of Chernobyl, or we discussing shield which corrupted Ukraine finished "just" in 30+ years? Deviating once again. If the Russians had not built the Mickey Mouse reactor and attempted a manoeuvre they had tried on other Russian Mickey Mouse reactors which had always failed, and if the Russian sarcophagus had done the job it should have done by containing the radiation for many decades if not a century or more, there would have been absolutely no need for other nations to construct a containment shield in the middle of one of the most dangerous radiation zones in the world. Russia caused the blast and the escape of masses amounts of radiation. Not other nations. I have answred your question. Now you should answer mine. But we know you will not because you never do! Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Moses Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 8 hours ago, PeterRS said: If the Russians had not built the Mickey Mouse reactor It was experimental reactor. And it was constructed by USSR. Currently Russia holds 90% of world nuclear reactor overseas construction market. Quote
Moses Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 7 hours ago, PeterRS said: Now you should answer mine. Do I have reason? Nope. Quote
Moses Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 7 hours ago, PeterRS said: Not other nations. Oh, dear. After two Japanese cities been burned by US nuclear bombs, to write "Not other nation" is unbelievable joke. In Chernobyl was accident. In Japan - criminal action. Quote
vinapu Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 59 minutes ago, Moses said: In Japan - criminal action. no , it was act of hastening end of war by nation who got attacked first PeterRS and Ruthrieston 2 Quote
PeterRS Posted 14 hours ago Author Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, Moses said: Do I have reason? Nope. And that's one of your real problems and why other posters just do not trust you. You just cannot take criticism of any sort. Ruthrieston 1 Quote
PeterRS Posted 13 hours ago Author Posted 13 hours ago 7 hours ago, Moses said: Oh, dear. After two Japanese cities been burned by US nuclear bombs, to write "Not other nation" is unbelievable joke. In Chernobyl was accident. In Japan - criminal action. Major deflection once again. You know perfectly well my comment "not other nations" referred exclusively to the disaster at Chernobyl and what caused it. The comment had absolutely nothing to do with Japan. Chernobyl was an accident in a Russian MIckey Mouse nuclear reactor by Russian Mickey Mouse people who did not know what they were doing, nor that their Mickey Mouse experiment had been attempted at other Russian Mickey Mouse reactors and always failed. That is absolutely criminal - and precisely why some senior Mickey Mouse Russian officials in charge of the Mickey Mouse Chernobyl experiment found themselves in a real-life gulag doing hard labour for 10 years. Fact! Second fact. It most certainlly was not an "experimental" reactor as you claimed above. Ruthrieston 1 Quote
Moses Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, PeterRS said: And that's one of your real problems and why other posters just do not trust you. You just cannot take criticism of any sort. Bla-bla-bla. By fact it is just my reaction stems from your blatant disregard for the facts, from my realization that I'm debating with people who blindly believe in the infallibility of Western civilization... and arguing with believers is inherently pointless. That's why I simply come here and mock these lemmings with brains washed by propaganda. I watch as these lemmings get nervous and agitated when I remind them that Western civilization is built on blood – from the Crusades and the Inquisition to the destruction of Japanese cities with nuclear bombs and the wiping off the face of the earth of Islamic cities like Mosul. And before you start posting pictures of Ukrainian cities here, let me remind you that "Ukrainian cities" might not even exist if the West hadn't dissuaded Ukraine from peace negotiations in Istanbul in 2022. Quote
Moses Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 12 hours ago, vinapu said: no , it was act of hastening end of war by nation who got attacked first Only because "history is written by the victors." The Jeju Island massacre was also suppressed in the Western press until recently. Tens of thousands of Koreans were killed in a few days by the Korean dictator in 1948 under the tactical control and guidance of US officers. Direct US involvement was confirmed by the State Department only in 2024, while until 2004 any mention of the Korean events in the Western press was immediately and ruthlessly suppressed. So let's not talk about the approaching end of the war: from the point of view of any modern conventions on military actions, the destruction of hundreds of thousands of civilians by a nuclear explosion is unequivocally called a war crime and genocide. PeterRS 1 Quote
jimmie50 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, Moses said: blatant disregard for the facts I rarely make any comments on posts around this topic as I don't wish to engage in the back and forth, but I had to laugh at this because from everything I have ever read in any similar posts, the only offender of a blatant disregard for the facts is the one I just quoted. Quote