RockyRoadTravel Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago It appears the coalescence of the left, center and right-wing around the right-wing candidate without a history of corruption (Peter Magyar) has won a massive (more than 2/3rds) victory in Hungary, and the extremist wight-wing candidate (Orban) has lost. I was a bit surprised that Orban quickly stepped up to acknowledge defeat. Hopefully that attitude holds. I fully expect our Incompetent-in-Chief to question the election results. With a 2/3rds majority Magyar's government can clean up the gerrymandering done by Orban, and also reform the equivalent of their supreme court which has been stacked with Orban loyalists. Ruthrieston 1 Quote
RockyRoadTravel Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago Viktor Orbán passed a law labeling gay people as pedophiles. He banned Budapest Pride. Orban made it a criminal offense to attend with €500 fines and organizers facing prison time. And when people showed up anyway, he let police use facial recognition to hunt them down at the parade. Last week J.D. Vance flew to Hungary to campaign for him. J.D. Vance stood next to Orban on camera and called him "a role model for the continent." Then he looked right into the cameras and said: "I'm here to help." Quote
vinapu Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, RockyRoadTravel said: Last week J.D. Vance flew to Hungary to campaign for him. J.D. Vance stood next to Orban on camera and called him "a role model for the continent." Then he looked right into the cameras and said: "I'm here to help." and then USA has audacity to complain about other countries trying to influence elections somewhere , if not outright in the USA itself Quote
vinapu Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, RockyRoadTravel said: With a 2/3rds majority Magyar's government can clean up the gerrymandering done by Orban, and also reform the equivalent of their supreme court which has been stacked with Orban loyalists. good news is that all this gerrymandering did not produce intended results. That is what happens when people are really pissed off it seems Quote
Members Suckrates Posted 8 hours ago Members Posted 8 hours ago Orban being "swept away" by an angry population that was fed-up is foreshadowing of what America can do...... All it takes is a VOTE... So if Americans are serious about wanting a CHANGE, they need to first get out and vote in the Mids, no matter what obstacles Trump puts in their way, and then in 2028, vote like hell against Trump (unless he is DEAD by then). 🤞 Orbans defeat is also a sign of Trumps diminishing worldwide influence.... Even a Trump cheerleader in eyeliner couldnt convince the Hungarians to remain under the influence of a DICTATOR. Now, lets see Orban in JAIL ! Quote
RockyRoadTravel Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Suckrates said: Orban being "swept away" by an angry population that was fed-up is foreshadowing of what America can do...... All it takes is a VOTE... So if Americans are serious about wanting a CHANGE, they need to first get out and vote in the Mids, no matter what obstacles Trump puts in their way, and then in 2028, vote like hell against Trump (unless he is DEAD by then). 🤞 Orbans defeat is also a sign of Trumps diminishing worldwide influence.... Even a Trump cheerleader in eyeliner couldnt convince the Hungarians to remain under the influence of a DICTATOR. Now, lets see Orban in JAIL ! From the outside looking in, Hungary's elections today, for all of the structural biases created to advantage Orban, looked freer and fairer than what I expect will happen with the mid-terms in the USA. The Incompetent-in-Chief will have federalized National Guards and ICE (stupidly because there is no issue with non-citizens voting in the USA) at polling stations to intimidate citizens. I expect the US Postal Service will be instructed to not prioritize mail-in ballots. And who knows what else to rig the election for the GOP> Anyways, off topic. Congratulations to the citizens of Hungary for voting enmass for the non-corrupt, non-Putin loving right-winger. Small victories are sometimes large. Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted 1 hour ago Members Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, RockyRoadTravel said: North Korea? 😁 They love autocrats there. Let's send JD to keep Viktor company. It's a nice little preview of how great it will feel when Orban wannabe Trump is gone, too. From Politico on the new Hungarian government: Quote With this two-thirds majority, the [new] government could kill off the structures that keep 80 percent of media under Fidesz’s influence, reclaim state assets handed to Orbán-aligned foundations and think tanks, and rewrite election rules long skewed to make it difficult for any contender to remove a party from power, paving the way for a return to democratic pluralism. Happily, Trump never won 50 % of the vote, and never had the staying power of Orban. He hasn't degraded institutions nearly as much. Maybe there is hope for America yet. Despite that, Trump has managed to fuck up so much all over the world in the last year. His stench will last for a long time. It would be nice to think this is all about how much Hungary loves democracy. But they tolerated nationalist authoritarianism for a long time. It seems like it is more about a shitty economy. Which is what brought Trump barely to power again in 2024, anyway. So Democrats better be focused on the economy, not just Trump bashing. Quote