The purpose of homosexuality

[unicorn]

Here's a great video which scientifically explains the important role of LGBTQ in society and human development/success:

 

[khaolakguy]

There's a purpose?! I thought I was just enjoying myself!

[unicorn]

6 minutes ago, khaolakguy said:

There's a purpose?! I thought I was just enjoying myself!

[PeterRS2]

9 hours ago, unicorn said:

Here's a great video which scientifically explains the important role of LGBTQ in society and human development/success:

The balancing selection threory, the older brother theory and others clearly do not to work in those countries where the number of children per couple has been falling for years and is still falling - Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand and many others. No matter what these governments do - dating nights, cash incentives for more children etc. has worked AFIK. 

The vdo also does not consider straight, married men who become homosexual later in life - and there are several who have confirmed this on this Board. It also does not look at men who have been very gay up to their 60s who then "turn" straight, as has a friend of mine whom I got to know in Hong Kong and now lived in New York for over 10 years with his wife.

As the OP vdo ends, it stresses the diversity of humans are features in the human story - as we are well aware from corrrespondents on this Board 🤪 . Interesting that being gay are one of humanities "oldest traits".

[Pete1111]

David had 8 older brothers.  David's love of Jonathan is clear.  I'm glad to see how the Bible supports the data.  😉

I'm curious about lesbian data.  Do women that self-identity as lesbian track any kind of birth order or sibling pattern?  Would be helpful to see if such factors result in a lesbian result.

 

[unicorn]

52 minutes ago, Pete1111 said:

David had 8 older brothers.  David's love of Jonathan is clear.  I'm glad to see how the Bible supports the data.  😉

I'm curious about lesbian data.  Do women that self-identity as lesbian track any kind of birth order or sibling pattern?  Would be helpful to see if such factors result in a lesbian result.

 

The lesbian sexual orientation hasn't been as well studied, from my understanding.

[unicorn]

3 hours ago, PeterRS2 said:

... straight, married men who become homosexual later in life...

Almost all studies of homosexuality, especially male homosexuality, suggest that sexual orientation develops by infancy--probably in the womb. While we all know plenty of gay men who've simply come out late in life, most will admit that they were simply playing the straight role earlier due to societal pressures. Indeed, most gay people knew they were somehow "different" from early childhood, as do their classmates. I've never met anyone who truly had the hots for women in his youth, then something switched and he developed the hots for men. I suspect that my homophobic father-in-law is one of those who's been playing the straight role due to societal pressure. 

[PeterRS2]

2 hours ago, Pete1111 said:

David had 8 older brothers.  David's love of Jonathan is clear.  I'm glad to see how the Bible supports the data.  😉

I am only a lapsed Christian and so I take almost everything in the Old Testament with a large grain of salt. The best thing to come out of the David and Jonathan tale is in my view Handel's wonderful masterpiece - his oratorio Saul first peformed in London in 1739. It is surely Handel's most striking setting of any Biblical drama. Many will actually know part of it as the "Dead March" is played at the funerals of many major figures worldwide. In the oratorio it is played following the deaths of Saul and Jonathan.

There is also a poignant final lament "O fatal day" by David when he grieves for the loss of Jonathan. The recording below was made back in the 1970s with the superb Australian conductor Sir Charles Mackerras along with the English countertenor James Bowman. It remains one of the finest, even though more modern versions generally use a smaller orchestra and chorus. Endowed with a rich countertenor voice and appearing at a time when countertenors were only beginning to come into fashion in opera and concerts, Bowman helped establish the voice, especially in the early music repertoire. Ironically, though, Handel wrote the part of David for a female mezzo-soprano voice. Bowman made almost 200 commercial recordings.